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Foods Containing B17 (Nitrilosides)

Vitamin B17 appears in abundance in untamed nature. Because B17 is bitter to the taste, in man's attempt to improve tastes and flavors for his own pleasure, he has eliminated bitter substances like B17 by selection and cross-breeding. It can be stated as a general rule that many of the foods that have been domesticated still contain the vitamin B17 in that part not eaten by modem man, such as the seeds in apricots. Listed below is an evaluation of some of the more common foods. Keep in mind that these are averages only and that specimens vary widely depending on variety, locale, soil, and climate.

 

Fruits	Range*
blackberry, domestic	low
blackberry, wild	high
boysenberry	med.
choke cherry	high
wild crabapple	high
market cranberry	low
Swedish (lignon) cranberry	high
currant	med.
elderberry	med. to high
gooseberry.	med.
huckleberry	med.
loganberry	med.
mulberry	med.
quince	med.
raspberry	med.

Seeds  Range* apple seeds high apricot seed high buckwheat med. cherry seed high flax med. millet med. nectarine seed high peach seed high pear seeds high plum seed high prune seed high squash seeds med. Beans  Range* black low black-eyed peas low fava high garbanzo low to med. green pea low kidney low to med. lentils med. lima, U.S.  low lima, Burma med. mung med. to high shell low Nuts (all raw)  Range* bitter almond high cashew low macadamia med. to high Sprouts  Range* alfalfa med. bamboo high fava med. garbanzo med. mung med. Leaves  Range* alfalfa high beet tops low eucalyptus high spinach low water cress low Tubers  Range* cassava high sweet potato low yams low Range* High — above 500 mgs. nitriloside per 100 grams food Medium — above 100 mgs. per 100 grams food Low — below 100 mgs. per 100 grams foodhttp://www.vitaminb17.org/foods.htm 

Very good interview with Dr. Christine Horner and Dr. Mercola.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_yRmHw2kv0&feature=player_embedded 

Use it or lose it;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjzZNyx2nyE&feature=player_embedded#! 

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Have any of you been estrogen progesterone positive and not taken the aromitase inhibitors and not had a reaccourance? I was told to take arimidex and have not taken it. I have made lifestyle changes and take various supplements in hopes this will be enough to keep the cancer away. I finished radiation prior to christmas last year and currently I have been having pain in my breast. Hopfully this is still a reacfion to the radiation.

Windy, if you are having pain you should have it checked out. Unfortunately, now that we have had cancer we have to be especially wary.

I do not plan to do chemo, radiation, or AI. That does not help you, though, since we cannot see into the future. I recommend finding a good naturopathic doctor and nutritionist (of the alternative persuasion) to help guide you to the foods, supplements, and exercises you should be doing to prevent recurrence. I believe very strongly that this is a safer, healthier route to take than AIs.

Best wishes to you!

Windy,  Although the pain you are talking about sounds new, I have had pain at the lumpectomy site as well as another site that was biopsied twice.  We are talking about over 2 years now.  I spoke to my BS who said that it's possible I will have the pain forever   Hope this helps!

Wendy I started having pains in my breast about 2 months post rads.  Never did ease up and BS finally said it was permanant nerve damage due to rads.  I started taking Elavil and it helped tremedously but also started going to a massage therapist that worked on my scar tissue.  Finally the breakthrough pain stopped.  I am now healing from BMX and once I am healed I am going to stop the Elavil and see how things go.

vivre:

Good for you for going no meds. I feel all alone refusing chemo and radiation. I am making similar changes as you have made.

Sherry :

How long before I can have a massage therapist work on my scar tissue? Does the scar need to be completely healed? I just have too much phantom pain, and I cannot keep taking the pain meds.

Dunesleeper-You can start with the massage therapy as soon as the inflammation goes away. The gal I went to was amazing. She massaged in between every rib. I could not believe how much better I could breathe when she was done. Breaking up the tissue, allows the chest wall to expand normally. This condition is called costalcondritis. It is common with anyone who has chest injuries(surgery) or toxic exposure, which I had both.

You might also start painting lugol's iodine on the scar. Mix it with some coconut oil to keep it from affecting the skin. The iodine protocol will also help to break up the scar tissue.

It might not necessarily be true that you will always have this pain. Nerve damage can be restored. I have NO pain anymore. Just keep working on it. It is good to get rid of scar damage as scar tissue is damaged DNA and damaged DNA is where cancer cells can morph into tumors. That is why it is essential that we ply our bodies with antioxidants and do all we can to build a strong immune system.

Vivre - I have hopes that the iodine protocol is helping break up my very stubborn seroma. I feel changes and sensations (prickling, tingling, occasional jolt of pain) like something is happening inside for the first time in months. Also, it is less tight and seems a bit smaller. 

Madpeacock-iodine helps to detoxify and kills infection. Why do you think it was a mainstay of medicine until they came out with all those other medications. Then they tried to get iodine off the shelves. It is almost impossible to find in Europe. We can't have any cheap alternatives. We have to speak out and not allow drug companies to rule us. I am getting together with a few friends this week to mix our own lugols to save money. You can see how to make it on youtube.

Marianna-It sounds like you need to detox from the inside. Also, try fish oil. It is great for skin issues. Our skins is a picture of what is happening underneath. Your skin will clear up once you get all the toxins out. And I can identify with the appointment phobia, except that I was not worried about the outcome, I just did not want to go and argue with the doctors. So I went once and that was that. Have not been back to any doc who wanted to "monitor" me. I am not a child. I can monitor myself. I found my way to doctors who helped me to get well. Why do I want to go back to those who have nothing to offer but tests. I can get those done anywhere. And the therms give me such peace of mind, because I can see changes, which are mostly positive. (if I could just clear out the damage from the friggin radiation).

I'm taking a supplement called Iodoral, but I imagine if I have hypothyroid it will continue to need this supplementation.

And I will definitely start massage in a couple of months if the docs say ok. Meanwhile I try to do without the pain meds as many days as possible. I'm also going bra-less so that my lymph will circulate better. It used to hurt more when I didn't wear the mastectomy bra, but I seem to be getting used to that. Maybe I am getting better.

hey duneskeeper, can you please give us a link to the 2nd chat room or other rooms you think worth while.  thanks!

Sorry can't link directly to it. But this is the link to chat, where you need to sign in. Then choose "staying connected" if you want to try alternative chat. The first chat room will definitely have lots of chatters there, but they are all conventional. If you are doing conventional or have done it there is lots of support there for you, especially starting at 9 pm Eastern.

http://www.breastcancer.org/community/chat_rooms/ 

Question - does anyone know whether milk thistle is a no-no or not for ER+? I have read it both ways and can't get a definitive answer!