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  • mary71145329
    mary71145329 Member Posts: 133
    edited March 2012

    Hello all...I've been lurking for a bit and reading over all your posts. Seems like everyone has a plan and I'm confused as to where the plan comes from. At the risk of sounding ignorant, does your BS make all the plans? I had my lumpectomy and SNB on the 6th of March and will be following up with BS on the 21st. Based on the pathology from my biopsy, BS told me at consult that I would do 33 rad treatments and 5 years of Tamoxifen. Is that her decision? No further appointments or recommendations have been made. Am I supposed to be doing something?

  • hawk
    hawk Member Posts: 305
    edited March 2012

    Mary71 - At my followup with ny BS after the surgery, he referred me to a Radiation Oncologist and a Medical Oncologist.  First, the MO requested the Oncotype DX test and when that came back at 14, he said no Chemo and sent me to the RO who prescribed the radiation treatments.  In between the RO consult, I also got two more MO recomendations regarding chemo.  All three said no. So I had rads from 1/17-3/6.  The MO prescibes systemic medicine like tamox. 

  • mary71145329
    mary71145329 Member Posts: 133
    edited March 2012
    Thank you hawk! I think that clarifies it for me. It's pretty safe to assume that when I go for my follow up on 3/21 with my BS that the referrals will be made at that point? And I assume that I don't have to use those particular drs?
  • BonnieBee
    BonnieBee Member Posts: 26
    edited March 2012

    Hi..I was wondering how valuable the oncotype score is if you had a BMX? I am awaiting seeing the onocologist and have a score of 22. I had ended up having DCIS/LCIS and atypicial changes around my IDC( highly ER/PR positive, 1.6 CM) after a re-excision..... so I decided on BMX. I am 44. I am sure I will be on Tamoxifin but not sure if chemo would benefit me and the value on the oncotype score when NOT used to evaluate a Lumpectomy. And ideas???  Thanks, Bonnie

  • hawk
    hawk Member Posts: 305
    edited March 2012

    Yes, Mary71, the referrals were given to me at the follow up.  No, you do not have to use those particulars doctors although, you should verify that with your insurance.

    BonnieBee, the Oncotype text has nothing to do with whether you had a lumpectomy or mastectomy.  The score is predicts of distant recurrence (mets) not local recurrence.

    There is a thread that explains this really well, I'll look for it.  

  • Cherilynn64
    Cherilynn64 Member Posts: 342
    edited March 2012

    Bonnie, at a score of 22 you're in that darned middle section. The MO will need to look at the charts that come with that. It shows the statistical chance of it coming back with chemo, without chemo, and it's all predicated on you being on tamoxifen for 5 years. That's what the graphs will show - 3 graphs, one for if you take no tamox and no chemo, one if you take tamox but no chemo, and one if you take tamox and have chemo. The percent survival difference is printed right on the report. 22 is probably going to be a tough call. My tumor was like yours 1.5cm, but I was grade 3 which is worse than grade 2. However I had very clean margins by over 1cm at surgery and my sentinel nodes were clear. So they put me right into radiation and said they doubted I would need chemo unless my genetic score came back high which it did not. It's really all about the math. My tumor was also over 90% ER and PR positive. There is a website called Cancer Math which your doc can also plug in all the data. Keep us posted what you find out!

  • Cherilynn64
    Cherilynn64 Member Posts: 342
    edited March 2012

    Hi Mary,

    My order was got the lumpectomy on Jan 20, then she referred me to radiation oncologist who approved me for the 5 day twice a day internal catheter radiation, then I went back to the breast surgeon who surgically implanted that as outpatient procedure, then back to the rad onc for the 5 day treatment. Catheter was pulled Feb 9 then I met with the med onc on Feb 15. He then ordered the Oncotype and I got the results 2 weeks later - we met and I found out no chemo. He put me on tamoxifen which I started Mar 2.

    My breast surgeon made the recommendation for both RO and MO and her office was wonderful and took care of faxing all info over to both places. Communication was excellent. She has partnered with both of them for a long time and I trusted her judgment. She is a breast cancer survivor and had double mastectomy and used both of these doctors as her RO and MO. That was good enough for me and I had as good an experience as one can have in a situation like this.

      

  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 1,886
    edited March 2012

    Sure thing Cherilynn.  I'm on Metformin btw, 500mg once daily.  I take it with my biggest meal, which is Lunch.

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited March 2012

    Mary... check out the Stage1 Grade 1 thread....there's valuable information and support there!

  • maryIIa
    maryIIa Member Posts: 9
    edited March 2012

     This is my first post so forgive if I'm in wrong site.  This forum seems to be closest to my situation except for node involvement.  My diagnosis with 1 sentinel node out of 11 apparently is game changer.  I do not wish to do chemo if at all avoidable.  I am 66 yrs old, first time diagnosis, Onke score 20, grade IIa, ER pos, PR pos, tumor was 1.3, sentinel node tumor was .7cm,  My med onc is recommending, chemo 4 cycles 3 wks apart, (I only know Taxotere is one of them) then Rad with drug therapy to follow.  I am in otherwise good health and have no major illnesses.  My concerns are that if I do chemo and have recurrence, I have no where to go.  Also, the complications with chemo are very disconcerting at my age.  I also have a friend who had very difficult cancer to go thru, did everything, but after about 6/7 yrs had fronto lobe dementia which could be contributed to chemo fog and is still haunting me.  He died after about 2 yrs of decline.  If anyone has any advice I am open to it.  Chemo no/yes, whole breast radiation for sure, estrogen drug yes.  I have two second opinion appts but maybe difficult to use b/c chemo is scheduled in two weeks. Thanks for any help

  • red15
    red15 Member Posts: 2
    edited April 2012

    Makes me kinda happy my onc score was 54. Decision made for me....Going for 2nd round Friday, Feeling pretty good about the whole thing.

  • BonnieBee
    BonnieBee Member Posts: 26
    edited April 2012

    Hi all,

    I ended up starting on CMF..chemo with my oncotype score of 22.The MO put it to me in these terms..15% chance of metatasis..5% reduction with chemo.and.5% with tamoxifin. She see's the reoccurences so she recommended it ( especially at my age 44).  It has been like having a bad hangover for a few days following the treatment. I had 2 out of my 8 so far.The first time your anxiety over every ache and pain made it seem worse. I found benadryl helped with the sinus like headache.

  • BonnieBee
    BonnieBee Member Posts: 26
    edited April 2012

    How is the tamoxifin going?

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