January 2012 chemo

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  • DianeNMil
    DianeNMil Member Posts: 130
    edited April 2012

    Annie- they were really random for me too! My nurse said" just enjoy the good weeks!" the end is in site.



    I am pretty wiped out today with fatigue and leg pain. Glad I took my boy biking yesterday. As I said carpe diem. We never know what tomorrow will bring.



    Was thinking would love to stay in touch with you girls. If anyone would like to connect through fb, send me a pm.

  • PCBarbie66
    PCBarbie66 Member Posts: 84
    edited April 2012
    First off let me say that my friends Service went well for me...I was sooo upset about not having a hat, that I went to the mall (Alone and Exhausted after working all day) and finally found a black hat at Bloomingdales...it wasn't an Easter Bonnet, but a small black Mafia style hat and it was marked down and the only one, and it fit my small bald head!!
    Rewarded myself with a Wertzer Cheese Pretzel..of course.
    At the Wake, people asked my husband "Where is Barb? is she coming?" and I would be standing right there...no one recognized me. Even my friend who lost her husband looked at me 3 times, at least till I spoke and she knew it was me (I last saw he in September, I have changed that much since then)...I sound good on the phone and people forget about my problems...and expect to see my long brown hair. Some friends who live close by, didn't know about my Cancer..telling me how sorry they were, it's not like I was tooting a horn out there, but I was in good enough spirits not to take any offense and I had my NEW Black hat!! with Black jeans, a Black button sweater and my Black Leather Converse High Top Sneakers standing on my own 2 feet. Monica was holding it together better than I could have hoped for and it was standing room only...I ate enough Airborne before and still feel like I dodged a bullet, by not catching a cold...so far.
    I did have one jerk who had to tell me how his wife fought Cancer and died 8 years ago...he kept saying she "Failed" she fought it for 2 years and "Failed". What an ass...my other friends kept patting me on the back with comforting jesters until he left ..what an ass. I didn't take any offense...he's just lonely missing his wife, and my visual appearance "Cancer/Chemo/Tired/Gray..." brought back memories for him and by the "Failed" comments, he probably is still mad at her for leaving him...at least that is what I read out of his comments. Another friend made me 2 garden sun hats and gave them to me there.  There are always all walks of life at Services...and I really wanted to be there and give support and Hugs to Monica and Donald and that is all that mattered to me.
  • grateful33
    grateful33 Member Posts: 58
    edited April 2012

    Diane- Congrats on finishing!! I am so happy for you! Reminds us all of the light at the end of this chemo tunnel

    Nancy- I can't believe story about your "friend" It is such a long road for us on this journey, and takes all our strength to mentally and physically heal, that I find I have little tolerance now for others self absorption. I wonder if you will decide to accept her friend request? Hugs to you.

    Karen- I am so happy to hear the great news for you and your daughter. 

    Annie- I also had 2nd Taxol three days ago and keep waiting for the intense bone pain and chemo sick. So far not bad at all. Gives me hope for the last two cycles. I can't believe the unpredictability of the chemo between individuals, but also between cycles.

    PC Barbie- Hugs to you for having to face not just your friend's service, but such an insensitive individual. Sounds like you rocked your black hat!

    Hoping we all stay side effect free and Happy Easter to all!

  • Gayle56
    Gayle56 Member Posts: 277
    edited April 2012

    FLDREAMER  - That is great news, now you can put your full focus on your healing.

     Nancy and Diane -  I have a number of people who I am not even bothering with any more.  They either have ignored me while I was having chemo or had too many negative things to say.

    Gayle

  • PCBarbie66
    PCBarbie66 Member Posts: 84
    edited April 2012
    I want to address so many of the posts that I read so far, still catching up..((HUGS)) to so many and if I could be there to help, support or throttle someone for you I'd be there!!
    I am going to start complaining...sorry...This was #6 Taxol on Thursday and 6 more to go, my eyelashes are almost all gone as well as my eyebrows (3-6 Taxol did this) and now my left eye has been twitching for at least 5 days. I just wish I knew what other surprises are down the road I HATE not knowing...and sooo tired of the comments when I answer the Patient questionnaire with the Chemo Infusion Nurses....

    My finger nails are twice their thickness and yellow...that can happens to some people.
    My right hand is swollen during Taxol is that normal? For some...
    My fingernails have large red patches on them, they get larger with each infusion...They'll grow out.
    Two of my fingers have turned red...yes, but how are the other fingers?
    My finger nails hurt like hell....Can you still button your shirt?
    Do you have shortness of breath...Yes!...When your sitting down doing nothing...No.
    My temperature keeps fluctuating from 97.3 to 99.8...let us know when it hits 100.1.
    My right hand is now very painful...but how is the left?
    Were going to need you to monitor that for us and let us know if it gets worse.
    My Muscles feel like I pushed a car up a hill....that can happen to some people.
    My hot flashes are killing me, once they get going I can't seem to stop them....hmmm.
    My face is breaking out in patches...Have you told your doctor...I only see my doctor once every three weeks, so no....well make a point to tell the Doctor about that.
    I am having bone pain like I did with the Neulasta shot, 2 days after Taxol=pain killer prescription 90. 90 for love of God...what the hell is down the road that I'm gonna need 90 more pills!!
    It feels like Psychological bullshit...these Chemo Infusion Nurses are clueless or are intentionally left clueless...can't argue with stupid...and I will never make a comment or mention a symptom that might actually get an real answer, since they seem to have no answers to give.

    Done complaining for now...I am actually doing better than most, I am at work all week, taking ½ off for the Infusion day (some days I'm late, leave early or I am not very productive...but I'm there and not sitting here.. I am pushing through this...I'm just really angry at my treatment...and I can feel my MAD getting worse...feel sorry for them.

  • KristinFro
    KristinFro Member Posts: 230
    edited April 2012

    PCBarbie66 -- I have a running joke with my neighbor (who goes to treatment with me when my husband can't) about the lame answers the nurses give. No matter what you tell them, it's always: "Gee, I don't know why that's happened," or "I'm so sorry, but we don't have an explanation for that," or "Hmm, I'm not familiar with that side effect." Course, the answers are always given with a shrug and the tilted head -- drives me up an f'ing wall. I find it strange that they've never heard of Taxol causing muscle pain in the throat 2 days after treatment when I can come on here, do a search, and wha la. There's a post or mention about that very thing. It's so frustrating. So, I get where you're coming from. I've only had one nurse that didn't really do that to me, and I've requested her to be my nurse until I'm done (10 more weeks -- sounds like forever right now).

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited April 2012
    Annie and Gratefull33 - I had my 2nd Taxol last week and had no SEs to speak of - other than being tired. I went food shopping (first time in 3 months), shopped for Easter candy for the kids, had dinner with family last night and actually did a little yard work. I can't believe it! Gives me hope for the final 2.
  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited April 2012
    Barb:  I've had so many conversations like that, I have pretty much stopped asking questions.  No one knows, that's the standard answer.  I think my expectation has become that regardless of why, it just is what it is.  Yes, I have lots of pain, so I take 30 Vicodin after each treatment (not all at once, of course, but over the course of the 10 days following).  I feel guilty taking the pain meds, but dammit, I really hurt.  I am not a wimp or a weenie, and I'm well acquainted with pain meds (shattered my wrist a few years ago so I have a good handle on severe pain and the need or not for meds) but no one seems to believe just how much pain I am feeling.  They continue to insist it's the Neulasta but I had four previous Neulasta shots without any pain, so why suddenly now?  Sometimes, I almost feel as if they don't believe me...
  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited April 2012

    Not enough energy for a full reply right now (day 3 after 4th Taxol) but just want to send a group hug to all.



    The onc nurses don't even ask about SEs and my MO just nods and writes them down for the patient record and doesn't give any suggestions. I think she assumes I'll ask for what I need...



    If you are interested in research like me you're welcome to check my Twitter feed where I link to oncology research news (and recipes for good, pretty, delicious food...). Not sure if allowed to put my Twitter name here so PM me if you want it...



    Jenn

  • annie3310
    annie3310 Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2012

    Jenn - other than the fatigue, how are you doing after your 4th Taxol? Are you finding that your SEs are different with every treatment?

     Annie 

  • PCBarbie66
    PCBarbie66 Member Posts: 84
    edited April 2012

    I thought this was just my Cancer center, but it seems to be an epidemic!!  What a horrible job they have, lying to our faces and ignoring the pain that we obviously feel.  I hate the way they treat us...my husband says that they will say anything just to get me to take another dose of the Chemo.  I am amazed that they even know that it works on this cancer considering the know nothing else, but that.

    Yes I have throat pain, nose bleeds and headaches too...Yes I take the pain meds, lyrica and Ativan...and I never took any drugs, but an Advil here & there before...UGH!!

    Just venting here...Thanx for sharing, I don't feel so all alone...I did Thursday..I have one more post that I wrote today and haven't put up yet...which I vent about my last Infusion...I am going to ask for a list of nurses that I have had so far and cross of the meanies...hope they'll do that, It's gonna be even ruffer on them then on me if I can't....I am really a nice person...I hate what they bring out of me.

    KristinFro~They have never yet said that that was new or unheard of.  I usually get.."That's rare, but not unheard of.."

    Jenn~I'll do that...I'm getting very interested in waht is happening to my veins.

    Nancy~some days I feel like you do, some days I feel like dumb cattle to the slaughter.

  • DianeNMil
    DianeNMil Member Posts: 130
    edited April 2012

    Happy Easter and Passover ladies -

    Thought I was done with chemo but it kicked my ass one last time, just for fun.  Sick as a dog all weekend.  Thought I  was going to hospital yesterday with fever and that "hit by a mactruck feeling".

    Let hope rads are not as bad (:

    hugs to all

  • CatWhispurrer
    CatWhispurrer Member Posts: 263
    edited April 2012
    I had my 2nd taxol on Monday, then on Tuesday, I lost my 20 year old cat.   She passed away at home with me. I had been nursing/treating her for thyroid, kidney and liver problems since last June.   She was doing really good mentally, eating good, but her body was wasting away no matter how much she ate.   It has been an awful week.  My SE's were worse with the 2nd round, especially days 4-6. (I can relate Diane feelling like hit by mac truck!!)   I had extreme aches and bone pains, nausea and my fever went as high as 101.6!  It has been an especially weepy week.  Now, some neuropathy is starting in my hands.    I am so tired of being/feeling sick all the time.  It seems like I have less and less good days.   I cannot wait until the last chemo on the last day of April (30th)!
    It is weird though as it seems like my hair is starting to grow back.   I have stubble all over my head.  Anyone else notice this?
  • annie3310
    annie3310 Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2012

    Cat -

     So sorry to hear about your cat. She had a good long life, which doesn't make it any less painful. And sorry to hear about your Taxol SEs. I had my second on Wednesday, and so far fatigue is the only thing I really notice. But it's pretty debilitating fatigue. I just ran some errands and feel completely wiped out. 

     Annie 

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited April 2012

    Cat - I'm so sorry to hear about your cat.  I lost one last year and it's like losing a child.  My sympathies are with you.  I hope your SE's give you a break.  The end is in sight!

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited April 2012

    So sorry Cat about losing your fur baby. As we both work in the veterinary field, I really, really feel for you. You did everything right for her and I am sure she knew it. We lost our Persian to kidney failure about 3 weeks ago. I think it was harder because we feel so bad a lot of the time.

    I had a frustrating "does the snowball of bc ever end" moment. I have very fair skin with lots of freckles and moles. When I went bald I noticed a large (size of eraser) mole on the side of my head. Finally got an appt with my dermatologist to have my whole bald head checked. :) Well, everything on my head is fine but I left with 3 more scars for 3 biopsies (leg, back, stomach). I was not expecting this and just wanted to truly throw my hands and and scream "I give up". Now I wait 7-10 days for results. I know I should look on the bright side that without going bald I would have waited til my annual appt this fall to have my skin looked at. But I am not seeing the bright side as of today. UGH!! I hate this crap!!

    I have #6 this week. Thinking about asking for pain meds as this past weekend bone pain was crippling. I really hope everyone is doing well with their SE's.

    P.S. Cat, my hair is growing too. A noticeable layer of soft fuzzy hair.

  • NCbeachgal
    NCbeachgal Member Posts: 181
    edited April 2012

    Catwhisperer-I'm sorry about your cat. I just lost my precious cat on March 28. I know how you are feeling today. It's so very sad. You were a great mom and your cat had a wonderful home. I know she will be missed everyday.

  • DianeNMil
    DianeNMil Member Posts: 130
    edited April 2012

    Went for Radiation mapping session alone today. Cried all the way there, during and home. Hard to do this alone

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited April 2012

    Diane - You are not alone!!!!!  We are all right behind you!!!! In fact, we can just jump right in your purse for your next appointment!  We'll have a purse party while we keep you company.  But I do know how you feel.  I usually go to my appointments by myself.  I take a train into Philly and DH meets me after taxol tx since I shouldn't drive while under the influence of benedryl.

    I am waiting for the RO's assistant to call me for a simulation appointment.  My RO was away last week, so she had to wait for him to get back to the office. I guess that is what you had today.  I just want to get this show on the road.  I have my last taxol tx on Friday, then on to rads.

  • Jennt28
    Jennt28 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited April 2012

    WOW. I can't believe so many are finishing and moving on to rads already. I have another 8 weeks of Taxol/Herceptin so won't be moving to rads until June...



    Catwhisperer - I'm so sorry about your loved kitty :-(



    Back at work today after taking all of last week off after realising I had not taken any more than a long weekend's leave in 18mths. I really didn't want to go back today but woke up with more energy than I expected. My work day is 7 hrs and since I get there quite early I usually do a bit more than that (we can put an additional 7hrs worked overtime towards a scheduled day off each month). Today I did my 7hrs and called it quits at that - I'm not willing to overwork myself anymore.



    I have an ultrasound scheduled for Thursday morning to check my liver since my GGT is still up and I've been getting pain in the area. Sure would appreciate some pocket/handbag pals for that :-) The pain may actually be just a side effect of the drug in my clinical trial (denosumab for early stage, and I'm not supposed to know if I'm on the drug or placebo) but onc thought best to check it out to make me rest easier at night...



    Jenn

  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited April 2012

    Jenn - I'll clear my schedule for Thursday morning.  I'd prefer the purse myself.  I think a pocket might be too tight a fit for all of us. :)   Take it easy at work!  I think a 7hr day is just fine right now.

    Cat - I'm so sorry to hear about your kitty!  It seems that she had a good long life with plenty of love and care.  It is so hard to let them go. Our dog is on her last legs.  We will be making very decisions soon.

    Momof2inME - I also am quite fair with many freckles.  I dread going to the dermatologist.  He always want to biopsy stuff.  I'll keep my fingers crossed that everything is b9.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited April 2012

    Cat - I'm so sorry to hear about your beloved cat.  She was blessed to have you in her life, as I'm sure you were to have her. 

    Jenn - I'll jump into the purse party on Thursday, too.  If I fall asleep from the Benadryl just poke me and wake me up.  And good for you for taking some much-needed time off.  Does anyone else struggle with really understanding that we're being pumped full of toxins and poisons, and we probably shouldn't be feeling "good" and "normal" right now?  I'm my own worst enemy when it comes to trying to maintain normalcy in my life...and it always bites me in the ass in the end.

    Diane - We'll always be there with you, by your side holding your hand, even if it's just in spirit.  Talk to us, let us know how you're doing, and we'll keep you in our hearts.  Janet's right - you'll never be alone as long as you've got us.  I think about all of you every time I go in for a treatment, and strange as it sounds sometime wish we were able to all do it together. 

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited April 2012

    Two days before my third (of 6) dd Taxol, and I'm running a fever again (just under 100).  It hurts to breathe deep - my lungs feel tender (?) or cold. If I breathe deeply too quickly it makes me cough.  Don't know how else to explain it.  This is the exact same thing that happened to me two weeks ago, same day, and landed me in the doctor's office.  So, at least I'm on schedule with my SEs?

    Has anyone else having dd Taxol experienced anything like this?  It's certainly possible it's not a SE but since it's happened twice now, I'm wondering...

  • annie3310
    annie3310 Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2012

    Nancy - I'm curious how your second Taxol SEs have been compared to your first round. I'm in the middle of my second dd Taxol and keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. My only SE that's really bothersome is feeling so tired all the time. I agree with you about really appreciating the fact that for months now our bodies have been pumped with poison. Even our best days aren't going to be that great if we compare them to life before, and hopefully after chemo. I'm probably very lucky that my job (real estate agent) doesn't really require that I show up for hours of work everyday. I'm not sure I could do it, the way so many of you do.



    We'll see what round three has in store for me.



    Annie

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited April 2012

    Hi Annie.  For me, this second round has been just slightly harder than the first round - except this time I knew to expect the extreme pain and was more prepared for it.  The pain has been worse, and lasted longer (just stopped yesterday, although my hips/back are killing me this morning).  I now have neuropathy in my hands and feet - mild, but there.  Something I didn't have the first round.  Oh, and I lost all my eyelashes, nose hairs, and almost all of my eyebrows!  I was hoping my hair would start growing back in but apparently I'm going through a "second shedding" (more hair than I lost on AC).  I have a constant runny nose, with nosebleeds on one side only (it's really weird).  And I'm tired, but I don't think as tired as I was on AC.  I'm having more brain fog than before - trying to write a 15-page research paper for school and just cannot process the information!!  I feel so blessed that I'm only working part-time and going to school part-time, and have a little flexibility - I cannot fathom how so many of you are working full-time!

  • BelaT
    BelaT Member Posts: 217
    edited April 2012

    Karen, forst I am glad you came back to tell us. I was always thinking about that. ;)

    Nancy, she is not your froend, remember u didnt care much? *Hugs*

    LauraB, welcome and sorry you have yo go thro this.

    Maryll , hope all goea well .

    Hugs to every one and good luck

    Sorry if I missed anyone

    Bela 

  • CatWhispurrer
    CatWhispurrer Member Posts: 263
    edited April 2012

    Thanks everyone for your kind thoughts about losing my kitty.   I lost a beloved Maine Coon last July very suddenly, right before finding my lump.   I think the stress and heartache partially attributed to getting the BC.  At least losing my sweet Mini last week wasn't unexpected, just very sad.  I still have Mini's daughter who is 18 years old.  I guess they have something good in their genes.  I also have 6 other kittes, 2 dogs, and 2 Siamese foster kittens (one is my Avitar).

     Nancy - I have about the same symptoms as you.  I have a few days where it hurts to breathe in deeply and then it makes me cough and my heart race.   I am also running a fever off-on, the worst was last Thursday and Friday, with a high of 101.6.  That is really high for me since my normal temp is usually 97.8.  I also have tingling/numbness in my hands the last few days, and a constant running nose.    I am on dose-dense too.  I am dreading the last two treatments as the SE's seem to be getting worse.

  • laurab69
    laurab69 Member Posts: 15
    edited April 2012

    Good Morniing Ladies

    I am reading all of these posts and feeling not so alone. I don't complain to my three kids much I am the one thats taking care of them. My kids are scared that I will die and I am all they have. I try to hide how I feel from them. I dont want them to no how much pain I am in. Yesterday I cried all day thinking it shouldn't hurt thus much. I have always been a high energy full of life girl. Now I am lifeless  and lonley.  This sounds awful but my cousin was dx about three wks ago and she has already had a bmx and on her facebook she posted how great it was that she had beat cancer and it really wasnt that bad.   I wanted scream at her and say just wait its coming but I didnt.  I almost feel mad at her that she thinks its that easy.  I don't want to call her and burst her happy cancer bubble.  Hugs to everyone we need a good pep talk dont we!!!!

    Laura 

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited April 2012

    Annie- my 2nd round of Taxol was easier than my first. My only SE was that I get tired in the afternoon so I take a nap. I've had very little bone pain. I noticed in the shower yesterday that I'm getting stubble on my legs and under my arms. I may have to start shaving again. I just wish I was getting more stubble on my head!

     I'm hoping rounds 3 & 4 go as well as this one did.

  • annie3310
    annie3310 Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2012

    Char - that's been my experience as well, except for the hair growth. I'll keep my fingers crossed that 3&4 go this well for all of us. I also just noticed that we're both triple negs. I try not to think of that too much.



    Annie

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