Would a KETONE Diet Kill Cancer?

I have just been online to check to see if anyone else has thought of a ketone diet to kill cancer and find to my dismay that it's an old idea. So I read all the papers on it and to my delight find the concept riddled with misconceptions. Now none of the papers on the ketone diet hypothesis went far enough in lowering blood sugar, almost all were trying to achieve it in a sedentary clinical setting and some used ketosis as an adjunct to chemotherapy. NONE talked about restoring liver and kidney function as the tumour gradually broke down and NONE understood the complete biochemistry of ketosis. However each one provided clues.

Probably the biggest problem in getting patient compliance in these studies seems to be a sugar craving, thus jumping straight from a diet full of refined sugar to almost NO sugar and natural sugar at that might seem a near impossible task. So the logical thing to do is cut out all refined sugar as the first stage. So much pathology is associated with consuming refined sugar, especially when associated with liver malfunction, which is, to a large part, caused by consuming refined sugar. Migraines, moodswing, depression, panic attacks, epilepsy, non allergenic asthma, diabetes, arteriosclerosis, hypertension, cramps, tremors etc. etc. Then there are all the meds that are taken to treat these problems, ALL making the underlying pathologies worse and creating new pathologies of their own plus cross reactivity problems.

Thus giving up refined sugar TOTALLY will mean that all of those meds can go into an incinerator. Some drugs, those that cause an increase in cell receptor numbers such as antipsychotics, SSRI's, will need to be tapered off gradually. By giving up refined sugar and cutting back on meat a lot of the gunk in blood vessels will begin to dissolve and, as anxiety disappears as well, your blood pressure will come down so you can taper off those meds, eg beta blockers and ACE inhibitors. Eating a lot of polyunsaturated fats, plus taking EPA and DHA oils will help here. Buy a blood pressure gauge and a blood glucose monitor while you are at it as they are pretty cheap these days. Why not also get a good book of basic physiology?

EXERCISE, HOW?

Someone has been diagnosed with cancer. By this time they will be anxious or depressed or both, tired or even exhausted through lack of sleep, relationships with other people are terrible, there is a heap of debt, things around the house don't work, mess. They have gone down into a black hole so deep that it seems impossible to ever find one's way out. How does someone get exercise when it might be extremely dangerous out there, especially for a woman going for a walk at night, something most men don't ever even have to think about. But he or she HAS TO GET EXERCISE to prevent or get rid of existing cancer without 'cut, poison, burn' or to just simply be healthy full stop. Well, there is one way that will kill two birds with one stone IF one has a backyard, ie start a comprehensive VEGE GARDEN and plant some FRUIT TREES including some on the nature strip. That way you get FRESH veges and fruit, free of spays and you can control the composition of your soil. Start a compost heap. Soil iodine deficient? Then get to a nearby beach if there is one and pick up kelp washed up onto the beach and add that to the compost.

Then there are community activities that might be able to get started, e.g. building bush tracks IF there's bush nearby. Out in the forest, sweating like a pig, taking photos, great stuff. Then get a community action group together to pressure the local water authority to get rid of the water chlorination treatment plant and replace it with an ozone plant. These are just a few ideas to get the ball rolling. One thing is for certain. YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR OWN LIFE INTO YOUR OWN HANDS and wave goodbye to to the doc and the psychiatrist, but keep on good terms in case you break a leg.

NOW HOW TO BREAK THE SUGAR ADDICTION.

MIGRAINE Breaking the Sugar Addiction. I wrote this for migraine but is perfectly applicable for everything else.

Now it's all very well to say cut out the sugar but if the migraineur is addicted, which he or she is almost certain to be. Saturday morning migraines are common for the obvious reason that many people lay in on Saturday so their blood sugar has had longer to fall. If you get out of bed a bit shaky and sweaty your are more likely to be in ketosis, a certain indicator of reactive hypoglycaemia, and depending when and what you snacked on before going to bed So its a very good idea to get some Ames Ketostix to test your urine, better still Diastix which also test for glucose although they can't coincide. If you ARE in ketosis this is a sure indicator of poor liver storage of glucose (as glycogen.).

The addictive cycle goes like this. Gets out of bed hanging out for a cuppa with a fair bit of sugar in it, more likely coffee than tea. Blood sugar shoots up, feeling great for a little while then craving starts again as it plunges back down. Another cuppa and so on all day. So first off you've got to cut down the rest period and have a late snack of wholemeal toast with say avocado on it. Now get out of bed early and toast once again, For a sweetener in cuppa cyclemates I suppose although I hate the taste of those things. You could try glycerine as it is very sweet but doesn't trigger an insulin release. Now your blood sugar will rise much more slowly and fall slowly with a much longer cycle. YOU SHOULD HAVE BROKEN THE CYCLE AND NOW BE TOTALLY MIGRAINE FREE (as long as you don't backslide)

OKAY NOW SUGARS. Fruit is okay but if you are very sensitive cut out very sweet fruit like pineapple for a coupla weeks. Fruit juices are out as there is no fibre with them and it's just too much sugar. As much as it's very good for you honey is out for a coupla months as the sucrose in it has been split by the bees digestive system to fructose glucose and there is no fibre in it. Now for the processed food. Chocolate and cola drinks are deadly as they contain sugar, caffeine and threobromine. Now add a cigarete and you have the very worst combination of all. Especially if you are very sensitive you've got to weed out sugars in all other processed food root and branch, Look for SUCROSE (TABLE SUGAR glucose, fructose), GLUCOSE, DEXTROSE (another name for glucose), FRUCTOSE, (although it's supposed not elicit an insulin response), just be on the safe side, CORN SYRUP and MALTOSE (glucose, glucose). As to the lactose in milk bear in mind that humans are the only animal that drinks milk after being weaned. Just see how you go. Once your liver bounces back you could put things back on the diet like milk but not the refined sugars. Anyway, once you've broken the addiction you'll hate the taste of it.

WHOLEMEAL BREAD, PASTA, SPAGETTI, BISCUITS, BROWN RICE.

BOOZE. Unfortunately ALL out. Meaning no parties, no pub. However, once your mood stabilises and your stress level drops as your liver comes good you won't feel like a drink.

EXERCISE. A lot of migraineurs do nothing one day then go at it like a bull at a gate the next and get a migraine. Obviously exercise is great and NECESSARY but it also gobbles up blood sugar, so just go easy to start off with and increase it a bit at a time.

TYRAMINE. A substance in a lot of foods which triggers the release of NORADRENALIN. I'll deal with that later in a separate post.

{PS When I say blood sugar I meant blood glucose, same thing).

Paul - the lady aat our nearby organic farm with an all natural raw milk dairy herd thatwe bought into, she is on a ketone diet and has encouraged me to do same.  I am on the macrobiotics moreso now, less caarbs than I used to do and working my way to even less.  But the main resource being protein throws me bcz I WAS leaning to vegetarian who does products like eggs and dairy, but only from clean, well-treated, free-range, pastured animals.  The chicken and seafood and fish work into my plan I suppose, if I went this way, as I still do eat these now, though I just feel stresssed when I do.   But that is me.

Yesterday I was given a nutrition assessment from Chinese medicine, to reestablish kidney function, it was basically macrobiotics, no raw or cold foods.  Just cook all veggies and fruits a little bit, focus on highly alkaline foods.

Paul - your info here gives so much more detail than found online, and the five books I ordered on either macrobiotics and ketogenics are here in a nutshell with a wealth of ideas and inginuity.  Thank yoou for taking time to share this profile with us.

I am seriously attempting to decide how to pull the two together.

Edited to add - I have always believed that in the end food is our medicine and greatly leads to the downfall of health, though not always the end all, in my situation part of the fall was the pollution and carcinogens from the neighbor's outside wood boiler.  But I was already teetering.

Also adding, naturally, since bc people almost always have low body temps even prior to treatments, the other important thing to do immediately is raise the body temperature, using a Biomat or one of the means on the threads here in alternatives on raising body temperature. 

Question - does keto diet also raise body temperature?

To blessing 20.

Sounds like you ovedid the ketosis too soon to fast.  If you have kiver pathology going into ketosis, you have three possible problems, poor storage of glucose as glycogen, poor ketogenesis and poor gluconeogenesis (the making of glucose from the body's own tissues).  Your liver seemed to be able to make ketones ok hence the ketoacidosis,  However your body cells didn't have time to adapt to ketones, upregulate the associated genes and down regulate those associated with glucose metabolism.  Your brain was still dependant on glucose as the seizures resulted from cerebral hypoglycaemia, in part because of poor gluconeogenesis by the liver.  If the forum covered all disorders I'd post one on epilepsy.  I could put it in here. 

This sort of problem is why I urge a couple of months preparation to restore liver and kidney function first, get off the refined sugar, and take it easy when going into ketosis with the Ketostix just showing colour.  The Atkins diet and the earlier Lealord Kordell diets are ketone diets and plenty of people have gone onto them without a problem.  For an animal in the wild going in and out of ketosis is the norm and actually essential to their health.

Another thing, not everyone can afford the cost and the time to do the treatment that you are undergoing and without lowering your blood glucose to near zero you are not going to KILL the cancer cells 

To plumblossom.

No it won't. Experiments have shown that when cancer cells are perfused with oxygen they don't take it up as they have adapted to become increasingly anaerobic as they become more and more malignant.  However, doing aerobic exercises can't do you any harm and is headed in the right direction. 

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I can't see how changing one's diet constitutes offering medical advice. I do suggest throwing one's meds into the incinerator because flushing then down the loo is so destucrive to the environment, bad enough just peeing them down the loo. Big pharma loves your sort of talk. Anyway I'm only putting forward this idea for debate and, after all, people have minds of their own and shouldn't need to be nannied. I would like to see a mouse experiment set up first and I know a disillusioned female cancer researcher who might be interested. But she would be up against formidable odds and would need a helluva lot of public support from women just so she didn't lose her job for just suggesting it. The funding would have to come from government and IT would need to be subject to HUGE pressure as it's in bed with so many research institutions, eg the NH and MRC in Australia.

Paul - if you are not breast cancer person, a survivor or a support person, you really cannot be on the forums.  I have read back, you are giving advice on how to heal, another rule not followed.  

Edited to add: Perhaps you could begin your own website with all the information.  True, people do make their own decisions, but also true is that bc people can be quite frightened and grasp at what is not good for them, in a way that does not serve them, I for one was very confused and forgetful for well over a year.  Be careful in what and how you teach.  These are ideas to take to a naturopath and be closely supervised.