BC Husbands and Boyfriends Hangout

Greg, Now he says it is the surgery before the surgery he said lack of food. His gallbladder was really in a bad way, so they did the right thing only hard to endure. Middle has added to his list which animals he is going to show, that is why we were at the dairy goat show! He was the first kid to pick out a goat, so he had his choice of goats. It is a crap shoot no matter how you look at it!

Shemp,
It is character building and that is very important. Right now if they fatten them up they can be ahead of the cost. So all in all not a bad deal.

Oooo off to cook Ramen Noodle soup, uhhh DH is really off in the eating dept!

Hi Greg, see I didn't even think of the muppet's ernie. The only one I know is the one that Benny Hill sings about 'and he drove the fastest milk cart in the West' lol.
Hope you all have a fab weekend while I'm working.

Hi all!

Cowgirl, I adore the goat picture! Some day I'll get back down to Texas and I'm gonna hug me a goat! ( you don't shoot strangers who are on your property do you?)LOL

Hi Mags, I first saw your posts on this thread and fell in love with your picture (my babies are felines!). Was that taken professionally? Very awesome.

Greg, Yep...I can officially be here now since Carrie has some 'hanky' BC stuff going on. That makes me a family member! I use to try to respect her privacy here, (I only peeked about 14 times), but I say I'm official now.

I must say that being on this side of this crappy disease completely sucks! I can handle me having to deal with it but am infuriated that my sister has to. I some how told myself that by me getting BC would spare my 3 sisters and mom (I ignored the whole genetic thing!). So much for being a martyr. I pray that I can help and support her whenever she needs it like she did (does) for me. That is invaluable!

Take good care all,

Denise

Of course it is Ernie Banks!!

Go Cubs

Nickii

Denise,
We are talking funky cells, Not BC. Please I don't want you to worry about me. I am making changes and we both know were worry gets us.

Cowgirl, I can't wait for the new babies take pictures! I am glad that I can't go with you to look at goats I would be flipping the plastic out for every cute goat and trying to make you understand how the boys need that many goats!
( Don't think I could talk your Dh into the feed bill though lol) or I would bring one home and tell my other animals it was a funny puppy!

Hugs everyone hope you had a nice weekend!
Carrie

Just poping in to say hi. This is Alex.
It has been a while. I see that you guys have kept this thread very much alive!!
Mags, Dessie welcome to the thread, I know from your postings that you have been here for quite a while, but it is never too late to say welcome. In fact, you should probably be welcoming me.
Greg, Cowgirl, shemp seem like you are all doing well and I m glad to hear it.
DW is doing well, hair is growing nicely. She ditched the wig soon after our vacation in February.
Cowgirl, hope you DH is recovered by now. BTW,i see from this thread that you are now quite the party animal. I will think of you next time I think of throwing a party.

Alex,
Finally you posted! I know with Joanna feeling better you are busier! But we miss ya! DH is still walking slow and barely eating but for him that is a good thing! He needs to lose weight, and surgery pain is completely foreign to him! Personally I like knowing he has an inkling of my journey!

Mags,

Did I not say? We are getting two pigs too! I can hardly wait for those babies. You are correct though DH would have to stomp his feet at you two and tell you it is too many! The pigs are coming from a breeder a long way from here, so I don't know when we will get them. They will end up as bacon sorry to say. But in the meantime their lives will be happy! I promise!

I have seen many calves being born, and many pigs being born. The pigs are more interesting to me. The mother goes into labor and starts her panting like they tell humans to do. She moves around trying to get comfortable, and never really is. Then she finally lays down and gives birth, you as the owner of the mamma pig have to be there. There is so much fluid many baby pigs die if you are not there. So many a night I would be there watching a sow struggle and then bam she felt relief, and the babies would be cleaned up by hubby and given back to the sow.

The cow is really simple, they stand there uncomfortable, and they lower a bit and slam out comes a calf. Sometimes the cow doesn't even look back. Many a day and night I have sat in the car with the lights on while hubby got a baby calf up to drink because it was too weak to do it on it's own.

I watch him with amazement, he is so brilliant. He works like a doctor out there, and he never attended college.

I have never seen a lamb born though, or a goat for that matter. My middle son was begging to go watch that one be born.

Alex~ Hi good to see you post, glad to hear everything is
going well!

Nickii~ Welcome, any friend of Mags is a friend of ours
hope to see you again soon!

OH NO Mags I must come to Greece to buy the lambs!
and no we can never go to a pet store or animal shelter,
or a farm together LOL!
I would love to see the pics of the Sheep boy.

baby pigs are the cutiest!
I can't think of one baby animal that doesn't melt my heart!

Greg~I was thinking Earnhart, Isn't that his first name?

Shemp~ How are you and DH doing I hope you are both busy and feeling good!

Cowgirl~ I am collecting my pig gifs getting ready for pig stories that I am sure will come.

hugs,
Carrie

Well here I am! Greg you should know I am only naughty online, my real life is goat, cow boring! No time for fun around here(LOL). I just love our guinea pig, but I can not imagine having 27!

Carrie, we went last night and saw dairy goats! Oh My!! They are completely different than bohr goats!

Tonight we see bohr babies! I have to email another breeder, and see if she is ready to sell some!

Shemp! I am so proud of you and DW!!

Matter of fact, I just think you guys are awesome hubbies! I am sure you are pains here and there but overall I think your wives are lucky!

Now about baseball I am Astros fan, used to be a Ranger fan but I can't take that much pain! We got a guy having surgery! But we are going to play well this year I hope!

Mags I wanna see Sheep Boy too!

Okay off to homeschool wonderboy!

Mags,
Thats okay thats how I got it lol!
I have all kinds of gifs so if there is something you are looking for let me know I may have it. Yes Denise stole Cowgirls dancing goat, she is such a brat! she then taunted, and used it on my birthday!

Wait until you all hear what cowgirl got today, I am so excited I will wait for her to tell!

Hugs everyone, it is a beautiful day in Ohio today !
Carrie

Cowgirl that is fab. I'm missing not being able to put pics on. When bf finally shows me how to connect my newer digital camera to the computer there will be pics galore.
Carrie have you got any nice cat gifs or pictures? Mine are all on the old computer still. Bf says we will transfer them using my camera - the photos that is - but I have no idea how to do it myself. Maybe next week as he has a lot of extra days off and I have two.
Hugs
Mags
xxxxxxx

Hi again, it's Alex. I am not sure if anyone got to read this. I read this in the paper the other day and just read it again in the triple negative thread.
Wanted to make sure everyone got a chance to read it since I know we have a few triple negatives in this thread, my DW included.

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Chemo praised for hard-to-treat cancer
By LINDSEY TANNER, AP Medical Writer
Last Updated 6:06 pm PDT Wednesday, April 12, 2006

CHICAGO (AP - Research offers hopeful news to women whose breast cancers are typically more difficult to treat: Modern chemotherapy means more of them will survive than previously thought.

The latest findings offer more evidence that a tumor's "personality characteristics" are more important than size and how much the cancer has spread. Often the key is whether the tumor is fueled by the hormone estrogen.

Increasingly, doctors are considering that when recommending treatment.

About two-thirds of breast cancer patients have hormone-fueled tumors. Typically such cancers are treated with tamoxifen and other groundbreaking hormone-blocking drugs, which have fewer side effects. These women sometimes get chemotherapy too, although the new study suggests many of them will do just as well without it.

But that still leaves about 70,000 U.S. women diagnosed each year with nonhormonal cancer.

The new study found that advances in conventional intravenous chemotherapy give many of those patients almost as good a chance at survival as women with estrogen-fueled tumors.

While tamoxifen "changed the landscape" for estrogen-fueled tumors, "the playing field has now been leveled somewhat" because nonhormonal cancers respond so well to modern chemo, said lead author Donald Berry, a biostatistician at M.D. Anderson Cancer Center.
The research supports updated guidelines released in December by the National Comprehensive Cancer Network, a group of leading cancer treatment centers. They recommend that treatment be based partly on the tumor's hormone status.

"Breast cancer isn't one disease and one size won't fit all," said Dr. Eric Winer, a co-author and director of the breast oncology center at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute in Boston.

The study appears in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association along with an unrelated report from the government's landmark research into hormone pills.
That study shows that unlike estrogen-progestin pills, estrogen-only pills don't increase older women's risks for breast cancer. The new results, based on an updated analysis, echo findings from a report two years ago that showed estrogen pills linked to a higher risk of strokes, but not breast cancer.

The research on tumors and treatment is an analysis of 20 years of data from three studies involving 6,644 patients whose disease had spread to lymph nodes. Modern chemotherapy improved five-year cancer-free survival rates by almost 23 percent in women with nonhormonal cancer, versus just 7 percent in women with estrogen-fueled disease.

The latest chemotherapy regimen studied - three drugs including Taxol and infusions every other week for 16 weeks - reduced the risk of recurrence and death in patients with nonhormonal disease by more than 50 percent, compared with older, lower-dose and less frequent regimens.

The results reveal "just how big an effect the new chemotherapy is having" on women with estrogen-negative cancer, and likely will instill more optimism about these women's prognosis, said Debbie Saslow, director of breast and gynecologic cancer for the American Cancer Society.
The estrogen pills study involved 10,739 postmenopausal volunteers in the Women's Health Initiative. It found that the pills increase older women's risks of abnormal mammograms just as pills containing estrogen and progestin do.

That's because hormones can make breast tissue denser and harder to interpret on mammograms. That often results in repeat mammograms to clarify the initial images, a process that can be costly and anxiety-provoking.

Wyeth's Dr. Eileen Helzner called the results reassuring but said women should discuss their individual risks with their doctors before deciding whether to take hormones at menopause.
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Happy Easter/Passover everyone!

Alex and Joanna! Hey there! Alex I read it, it makes sense to me! BC is a very different beast depending on who it is in!

Happy Easter to everyone!

Here is a sweet picture of two of our goats