I went to a divorce lawyer yesterday
The only time she had available happened to be on my birthday.......I went to consult with her and left with agreeing to file...........I am now trying to come up with a way to tell my Husband before Monday......we have not been sleeping in the same bedroom for months......I have told him that I no longer love him like a husband........however we own a business together and work together everyday......he has been being so nice lately....he even got me a birthday cake (has NEVER done that before)...I am afraid that he is thinking that we will just live this way forever.......he is so difficult to talk to about anything........I know he will just start yelling and saying terrible things........I just want to be done.......no arguing, no yelling.......just want to work together to get things in order.......I am even wanting to work in the business for awhile.......and not telling our employees........I feel like I am able to do this...not sure if he is though....We repair airplanes for a living and I do not want our customers/employees concerned about our personal life affecting the quality of their maintenance/services. Last night I went out for my birthday and received a text from him saying "I am sorry for everything I have ever done to you Love, Sam".....this from a man who has never said he was sorry to me or my children, or his children for his verbal abuse or ANYTHING.........so I guess this was a blanket apology that is supposed to cover the last 10 years. Two birthdays ago he said to me and my kids (ages 19 & 20 at the time) "I hate you all, why don't you get the F out of my life"....(is a long story)......then he stormed off in his car........When I saw him later I said "How could you say such hurtful things?" He said that he wasn't referring to me when he said them & didn't really mean it...............WHAT??? Like that makes it any better & that you only meant my kids!?!?!? I told him that day that he will die a lonely old man that no one comes to visit..........nobody......the only reason I even stayed beyond that day was because I have no where to go and no money of my own........I have wanted to leave him for so very long but having this business together has made me feel trapped.......SO.......I have recently gotten my real estate broker's license........finished it while going through all this breast cancer stuff........now I work at a realty co. AND at my business......I have my first home to list and can't wait to get rolling! I was a single Mom for 8 years and am really looking forward to getting my independence back!! HOWEVER........this is going to take awhile to be able to support myself on it.....why am I feeling guilty about taking money from our business?? A business I helped to build with my own blood, sweat & tears???? I have wanted to leave him for so long.......the lawyer made me feel a little bit better .............He is such a dr. Jekyl/mr Hyde...........he can be fuming, cussing angry......saying mean and hurtful things..........and then come out of the bedroom or kitchen and act like nothing happened! And I HATE FIGHTING..........and he KNOWS this.......so I usually just drop everything because I am grateful the yelling is over.........this has been going on for years.....I have always stuck up for my kids AND his.......(his kids hated me in the beginning when we first got together, their Mom had told them bad things about me and they were only 9 & 10).......but now will call me and not him.....his eldest (23yrs) said she doesn't even feel like she has a dad.......and she would still talk to me if we were to get divorced.) Oh my goodness I am just rambling now.......I am so not wanting to start this discussion.........he just got home and is all "happy" again after being angry at me this morning because I didn't call him last night......he told me that I was being disrespectful to him..........I said........what do you know about respect except when it comes to customers/friends & your Mom..........no comment from him........and now he shows up all happy.......knowing that I will not start a fight.......OMG.......I NEED HELP!!! AAHHHHHHHHHHHHH............I feel so relieved that I told my lawyer to begin the filing process.....if I had walked out of there not doing so I am not sure when I would have gone back.....now I have done it and have to tell him! This is so sad......but I am the type of person that would put up with this and sacrifice my own happiness for his comfort for the rest of my days.....but breast cancer has woken me up & smacked me in the face!! Dang that smarts!
LOL.......if there can be something good out of this experience.......it is that I have now begun to see my life & happiness in a totally different light..........it is time to stop sacrificing my happiness for everyone elses!!!! Thank you for listening to my ramblings.......I don't want to burden my children with these thoughts...........and have no close girlfriends as I have worked with men for the last 19 years of my life.......
I am thinking about just hanging out in my "lair" as I call it for tonight and beginning the conversation tomorrow morning..........I keep trying to think of ways to start.....and how to be kind to him & his feelings....(I was very much in love with him at one time & tried so very hard to make things work but is two way street!!!!!)......... I don't think it will matter......his initial reaction will be to blow up I am sure.......I am hoping my delivery will be as such to help him see that I don't want to fight......it is not about you did this & you did that........or I want this & I want that......It IS about the fact that I no longer love you or want to be married to you......it is as simple and as complicated as that.........oh my goodness I need a beer.............
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Druanne, only you know what youve been through and whether divorce is right for you and your situation so Im not advocating for or against your taking that step. Just make sure you can live with your decision and I hope that you gain the happiness and peace of mind that you seek.
I do want to pass on from my experience that if your intending to announce that you wish for a divorce, it may well be best for either you or him to find other accomodation immediately. It is very very hard to continue living with someone when there is so much hurt, especially in the first few months. Continuing to work together for the benefit of both of your finances may be possible depending on the personalities of the two of you and your ability to keep your staff from taking sides etc. But that too may well be very difficult as divorce and the thoughts of settlement can make a huge impact on peoples thought processes and their instinct is to protect what they consider to be theirs, regardless of who earned what and who deserves what.
My ex ( I had to sign the divorce papers during chemo) pressed for me to sign the settlement during that time as well and wanted no lawyers involved and thought he had worked out a most generous settlement. I had enough wits at the time to know I had to see a lawyer first and put him off for months till my chemo brain had receded. Turns out he was doing his very best to rip me off financially, so I have found that all bets on partners behaving decently are off when divorce is involved.
I wish you every success in gaining happiness.
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Thank you so much for responding Lyndal1966
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Sometimes a thing such as bc can give you a new way of viewing things. You are not content to go along with way things were and your wants and needs are more important now. Kids are grown, your time now. Good luck with all decisions you make, they will be right for you. Also like you have spent life avoiding conflict but now bring it on. Husband makes a wide path for me when I am angry, like the power. kidding
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Hi Druanne,
I feel what you are feeling as I have been there. I was sleeping on the coach for months, having panic attacks and sick all the time with one thing or another. My marriage wasn't good for a couple of years and my husband kept trying when I'd talk to him about our crumbling relationship but by the end, I had just had enough. I no longer felt any compassion for him. I just felt truly horrible inside myself and I was making myself sicker every day.
I finally found the day I was going to tell him. It didn't go well. He yelled and said nasty things. It was really difficult for a couple of weeks until I moved out of our house. My friends consoled me.
Druanne, there is no way to avoid the terribly way you'll feel and the anxiety you'll feel when you first tell him but once you say it, it's done and it does get better after that.
I was diagnosed with BC 2 1/2 months after asking for a divorce and my husband was very unfeeling about it all. He only said nasty things about it as if to say that I did it to myself (got BC).
Druanne, I just want to say that you will get through it. Once you tell him, it's done, it's out there, he knows.
Good luck and may you have peace of mind in knowing you've done the right thing for your happiness.
Oh yeah, my life is finally full of happiness and joy. It wasn't for such a long time when I was married.
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I saw this pop up in the active topics and had to respond. I was there, years ago, and not going through half of what you're going through. You are one strong lady! I think you'll do just fine.
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I was scared my ex would start a fight (verbally abusive) as I was the one that wanted the divorce, not him. I met him at a restaurant after work and told him there. I knew this way if he went out of control I had my car there to leave and also people around me to ask for help if I needed it.
I know this hasn't been an easy decision for you but it is YOUR decision to make. Don't allow others to pursuade you one way or the other. Come here to vent if you need to.
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Druanne,
I'm glad you've seen a lawyer. If you are sure about the divorce, please make sure your lawyer clarifies your state's laws for you regarding community property, leaving/staying in the primary residence etc. This very important so that you protect your financial position and any rights to property and possessions. I hope you get through this difficult time and find peace.
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Girl, stop it!!!
You don't need stress in your life as you fight this fight with BC!
I will be happy to talk with you by phone if you just want to vent. I'm here for you. I'll be a shoulder for you. No one knows exactly what you've been through, only you do. The one thing that is important is that you TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF AT THIS TIME.
I hope this morning finds you at peace as you sort through the issues.
HUGS AND GOD BLESS
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Good luck Dru, I went thru 2 divorces before I found my fiance which i realized after him staying with me after surg for 2 wks that I dont need to be married. We two do better when we can go back to our separate houses. He wants to change my house around and had me hysterical when he dropped me off for surg crying cause he wanted to re do my living room floor like he did his and I told him I didnt want mine that way (his looks stupid and he cant get the house sold! but cant tell him that cause it would really throw gas on a fire) anyways my surgeons went out and told him there would be no remodeling before during or after surgery Period! End of discussion! Needless to say my dirt bag carpet with the dog hair is still there and I let him put in an antique dresser to keep his clothes in and an entertainment center for my TV and the post surg plants from friends and he threw out my dining room table on its last leg and bought me a really cute cottage type dining room table and chairs so thats how we get along buts its better than marriage.
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Thank you so much everyone for your responses.......I really wanted to wait to tell him this morning.......but he tried to start a fight with me last night before bed.......so I told him......:( It was terrible.....he just kept making light of everything I said........he said things like.....I hate him and want to see him dead so I can get insurance money.......he said I USED HIM to raise my children and now am throwing him to the curb.......he said he is going to sell our business and disappear from this hemisphere!! My lawyer did advise me that he cannot make me leave the house or the business or sell anything. I am concerned about some of the things he said last night but am feeling they were more than likely out of anger....He told me that he will no longer help take care of "my dogs"....I have realtor stuff to do tomorrow and don't have any other options as of yet
Reading your posts is giving me hope
Thank you
I don't like to see people hurting
My husband included.....:( This sucks....He hasn't come out of the bedroom yet and it is 1pm....
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Storms will pass and there will be calm water. Hang in there.
Someday you will be able to look back on this and know that you did the right thing, handled with grace.
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Thank you SheChirple
I love your signature
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Just an update..........I did it!!! It felt so good!
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Druanne: I divorced my chldren's father many years ago (almost 25) and it was the best thing I ever did. He was very much like your husband...abusive and volitale. I hated being around him, and when we moved to Florida and he no longer traveled, it was worse. I did exactly what you're doing...got my real estate license, got some money coming in, and then I told him that I wanted my freedom. He never paid me a dime of child support, but that was ok, because I was financially able to handle it on my own, and he was out of my life. My kids are now grown and I'm comfortably retired, enjoying my life with my boyfriend of 13 years!
BC does have a way of putting life in perspective, and you don't want to waste one minute wishing you had done something differently. All the best to you. Hugs
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Druanne,
Just remember it is alway darkest before the dawn. You need to do what is best for you and never allow anyone to make you feel bad. I understand where you are coming from as I was there many years ago with my first husband. I have since remarried to my soulmate. Keep the faith and never settle for less than you deserve. Feel free to PM me if you need a shoulder or friend ........
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Thank you so much Kaara & Odie
........what wonderful posts full of hope
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Druanne,
The hardest part is done now! Even you said you felt so much better! You just need to remember why you are doing this becuase he sounds like the type to make some changes that make you happy so you drop the divorce. Once you do that everything will go back to the way it was. So anytime you are questioning your decision, come back and read your post.
I would suggest finding a counselor to work with while going thru this process. It will give you that outlet to vent and they will also help you come to good decisions and not feel guilty for what you are doing. In the end it sounds like the divorce is the best thing for you. Stress is very bad for your health, it suppresses your immune system and opens you up for the possilibility of letting any disease try to take over your body. Good luck and please come here to vent anytime you need
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Thank you so much LuAnn........that is so true......he is being so nice and understanding.......THe morning after I told him he came into my room........shed a few tears and told me that he was going to go to each of our children and make amends.......and that he wants to support me and talk to me and hold my hand in the mall.......etc etc etc blah blah blah........Tears started coming out and then I felt anger.......I asked him where this man has been for the last 8 years.......and that it is much too late now...but that I am very happy about his intentions to build a relationship with the kids...I have two & he has two....ages 21, 21, 22, & 23....
It is difficult to see him hurting........However, I can't help but be suspicious of his behavior as I do not find it sincere....I have seen him act like this before........What great advice to come back here and reread my post..........my lawyer is taking a bit long to get the papers ready........I thought they were to be ready this Monday.......I called and the secretary said she was very busy and to wait a week and if I didn't hear from her to call back........I think he (husband) is thinking that I have decided against the divorce so I have been making sure to keep the subject alive this entire week.......it has been quite exhausting...........thank you and everyone else for posting here and listening
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Ask yourself: Do I really need these waves of mood swings. It sounds like alot of what I have read in the book "Stop walking on egg shells" If you are having to tip toe around him to keep things peaceable it would be wise to seriously consider a relationship like this. Especially if you get burned every time. First, it's I'm sorry, then it's abuse, then it's I'm sorry again,and it goes on and on for years.
There are no excuses for this behaviour. After all we don't let our kids get away with it and a adult should know better. This spells ABUSE and it is a game they play with you. Move your pawns carefully.They know all the right moves and the buttons to push.
I live with a wonderful man that would never dare act like this and then I see my sister who has your relatiionship. It kills me to see women like you hurt.
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Thank you hugz4u..........I love that saying "stop walking on eggshells"........that is exactly what me and all of our children have been doing for years........no more............<3
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I'm sorry you are having to go through this complication when you should be devoting your time to your healing. However, your post has made me feel so much better. Know that from your frustration and pain you have helped someone else. I am nearly halfway through chemo, with my only child moving out in two weeks and I too am planning to divorce my husband as soon as I can get my ducks in a row. He sounds so much like yours, except I know the cause of the "walking on egg shells", moodiness, and emotional abuse - alcohol. You end up in a cycle of blowups, make ups, and breaking apart. Then it repeats until you leave. Telling him is the thing I fear worse - I don't know how he will react - tears, anger, or worse. I feel my cancer may be a response from my immune system finally breaking down after so many years of stress. Time to get unstuck and discover what good things come next.
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Hi Ponycat and others,
I think cancer is a very loud wake up call to now take care o f ourselves. I too walked on egg shells, tried to keep the family/children together for years, endured emotional , financial and physical abuse for years coupled with denial on both our parts of alcoholism. I thought because he was still a good provider financially that he was not really an alcoholic. I have now learned differently. . I have not had the emotional and physical energy to move along in the divorce but now that my reconstructive surgery is over (3 wks since surgery) I just think I have to do it. My husband of 35+ years moved out a few months ago and is now living with another younger woman. I was still getting infusions. He acts like it is no big deal and in fact tells his children to accept his "new family" and just become a happy new family. I loved what you said, time to get unstuck and find out what good things will come up in future. Fear has kept me down but I think I am now ready to move on. But it is scary, fear of losing the health insurance, income ( he keeps me a shoe string budget) and keeps asking when I can get back to work. I hope I have the energy for this.
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I give u ladies loads of crdit---I too had a horrible marriage but I was already divorced when I went thru chemo and i was so glad he wasn't there. He would have put so much stress on me it would have been a disaster. So that's why I thibk u have made good choices. U shouldn't have to come home to a confused and unhealthy home--it's so much better for u'r piece of mind.Good luck in u choices and I think there will be less stress in that way for u.
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ponycat I am happy something good has come from my post!!! My kids have both moved out....that was a big deal for me.........I miss them so much......and that after that I lost my Boxer doggie and best friend
.......I just couldn't stand being alone in the house with my Husband and no one else to talk to or care for.......so I ended up getting to Boston Terrier baby boys......they have really helped me get through this all..they make me laugh...I don't know what I'd do without them. BIG HUGS for you as I know what it is like to live with alcohol related stress......not my husband so much....but my Mother was an alcoholic......during some of my most stressful times I found myself drinking every night just to "get away" ........then waking up the next morning feeling terrible about myself and worried that I was turning into my Mother. Very destructive behavior for sure....I feel the same way you do about all the stress breaking down the immune system....I have had so many years of stress as well
......YOU CAN DO THIS!! I feel stuck but am SLOWLY breaking free........my divorce is on hold for a moment.....all the papers have been filled out.....however, we needed to refinance the house and he didn't want to just give it to me without knowing the way we were going to split everything and the value of things, so we are refinancing together....Going from 7.5% to 3.875%.........will save around 400.00 per month!!! My lawyer advised us to go through with it as our divorce could take up to 8 to 10 months because of all of our stuff and business together and that is a lot of money to save during that time!! I cannot file the papers until we close.......which is TOMORROW!!!!!
It has been so strange between us during this time.......he parked our camper at our hangar/work which is an hour away........goes out a few times a week and sleeps in it........we don't really call eachother anymore........I try to go out but still feel a bit weird as I am not one to usually go anywhere.......and when I do and don't call him or something he gets really awnry.........he has been going on a bunch of weekend outings too.....one coming up this weekend matter of fact.....I am happy he will be gone.......and it doesn't matter that it is Mother's Day either........he has always said for years........"You're not my Mother......so.....".....The weird thing is.........I am supposed to go out tomorrow evening and I want to stay over night but I am feeling like I shouldn't or something........then I think........why do I feel this way??? He has never cared about leaving........SO WEIRD.........maybe is just habit because he has always controlled me and I have just always stayed home and never gone anywhere without him or my kids......This is ALL SO STRANGE........but I'm slowly letting go and feeling less guilty.......He has been being pretty nice to me over all.........this morning though he blew up because I asked him for directions......there is a road closed in town and I knew there was a way to get to the bank from a different road so I wouldn't have to go all the way around.......I preluded my question with........I know this is gonna sound like a dumb question BUT.......with a smile.....how do I get down that one road to the bank from here??? He was a big asshole about it and I felt my eyes filling up with tears I HATE THAT.........I asked him why he had to be so mean?? Then he all of sudden changed his tune and tried to back pedal and be nice.......but I see that he cannot maintain this composure & "nice act" forever and that I am making the right decision.......OMYGoodness...........didn't mean to ramble........Hugs to you all that have or will be going through this now or in the future.........I can't wait to come out on the other side........light & free
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serenitywisdom Lots of hugs and love for you
Thank you camillegal (((((((hugs)))))))
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And now Dr. Jeckyl is outside building a fire for me...........:/
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Druanne,
We must be leading some kind of parallel lives except my dog died in January, and I was diagnosed less than a month later. When my only daughter moves out next week, she's taking one of the two cats, so again another loss. The other cat is old and infirm. That will leave me here with the calico and the alcoholic who is saying (not so sincerely) the right things but has not tried ANYTHING to really change his long term problems. This thread show me that even though I have a medical burden to work through, I can make it through to the other side - a life without criticism, unpredictable moods and negativity. Hard to imagine! I did make an appt. with a therapist, so hopefully, she will have some ideas and offer some objective support. Thanks again to all of you for giving me a little extra courage to hang in there and free myself from the craziness and get on with my life. BTW: Over 1/2 way through chemo!
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There really needs to be a book about how to get through divorce. I feel for you as I've been through this as well. I would say that both parties need good legal advice and emotional help. This is a very trying time and difficult to make the correct decisions when you are dealing with all the emotional issues.
We made a lot of bad decisions and are paying for it.
Terri
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Hugs Ponycat.........YAY for being half way through chemo!! WOohoo!!!!!
Terri, that would be great to have a "how to" book.......hugs for you too
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I was married for 26 years to the same kind of cruel man you have described. lost my dad, sold the house, daughter got mad and moved in with HIM. He probably should have been arrested for being a ped since the new woman was barely in her 20s and he is 56. I caught him when the substitute pharmacist accidentally gave me his viagara. He had been sleeping on the coach for a while because our bed made his back hurt! He tried to lie out of the viagara. He told me he took it to work once and shared it with his coworkers. The pharmacy had already told me how many refills he had had on it. Honey, it wasn't just once.
Long story short, I have remarried to a super nice man who treats me wonderful and has been there for me through treatment and surgery. Life is good!
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