March 2012 chemo
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Katy-that's great news that there's no infection and you're starting to feel better. It's strange how we get all these unexplained pains. Enjoy your weekend!
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About info given to me on SE...My BS told me to get all the info on chemo from my MO. My MO told me I was going to feel REALLY crappy for about a week, then kinda okay for a week and then good for a week, just in time to start it all over again. He didn't go into detail about the specific SE's, just talked about fatigue, nausea, etc. Said many SE's were similar to flu symptoms. He did ask if I had and questions about them. He was pretty honest that the first week would be hard. I know I couldn't have worked through the first week. Day 10 was the first day I voluntarily left the house. When I saw my MO on my follow up a week after 1st TAC he seemed surprised I was doing as well as I was and asked me "how was it, like pregnancy times 10 hunh? Yeah it sucks". He also told me that I was getting in 4 doses what most get in 6 and doing TAC which is pretty "heavy duty" anyway. He had not really stressed that my treatment was different than most before. Truthfully I had felt like a really wimp reading about some of you guys working and stuff.
Well, have a great weekend and good haircuts, birthday parties, soccer games and minimal SE's to everyone.
Corky
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Hi everyone -- I made a new thread with directions for making your own hair halo.
Here: http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topic/784615?page=1#post_2927922
I am SO not a Martha Stewart and can hardly sew... but hey... it worked!
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Good morning ladies! Day 3 of first treatment. Every morning I wake up feeling "normal" I do a little happy dance! I am a little tired (could be because I've been up a while already) and my legs feel a bit heavy, but other than that not too bad.
Going to be a beautiful spring day here today. Hope everyone has a good day with minimal SE!
Shera - great directions for the halo!
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Katy- I'm so happy to hear that you're feeling better and that you still have your hair for the party. I know that was important to you! Hugs!
Shera-thanks for the link! I've been thinking about trying to do something with my own hair, since I can't find a wig remotely similar to my hair!
I hope everyone has a wonderful Saturday! -
today also is my day 3 after 1st a/c treatment...feeling okey dokey...just get tired earlier in the day
i must admit i was very anxious for the first treatment...all sorts of fears...etc....nurses made me feel very comfortable during the whole ordeal. They insisted that MO give the orders for a port as my vein in left arm is not that great. MO said use right arm..even though lymph glands were taken and they said NOPE.......So I am getting a Port on my 2nd tx day and then going directly to treatment. The nurse said i will get a RX for Emla cream (which i also used when i had to have sentinel nodes done) and will put it on before each tx.
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Katy - glad that you are better and hope the party goes well. My oldest turns 12 next week and I have yet to plan anything! But it's always hard with these March birthdays to plan around Spring Break.
Thanks for the responses regarding SE. Maybe having the A/C dense dose makes it worse too IDK??? The nurse said we could "dial it back a bit" if I didn't tolerate it well but I don't want to do that! There is no earthly way I could be working so I am fortunate that is not an issue. I think it is making things worse also that I am still on these antibiotics that I have to take on an empty stomach. That will be over on Monday so maybe next week will be better.
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Hi All,
It's day 5 of cycle 2 for me, feeling pretty good today. Yesterday was the third and final day of taking steroids after infusion for me, and instead of keeping the steroid "buzz", yesterday was just almost a total wipeout. I just had NO energy at all yesterday, and while I didn't feel bad, neither did I feel good. I'd planned to make a run out for some things I wanted to get, but just couldn't work up the energy. I also had several instances of getting to the "queasy" point, and had to take nausea meds more than I have been.
Appetite still remains way off, but at the same time I feel like I'm eating too much - I keep thinking I need to eat to help my body get through this, and I keep trying to find something that tastes good. Even though I'm not eating much of anything, I'm eating little bits of lots of things in the trying!
Sleep is nearly always a challenge for me, and now it really is. I've awakened around 2 am for the last several nights. Usually will get up & go to the bathroom, then go back to bed, but most of the time never go back to sleep, just make myself stay in bed until at least 4 am. So naturally, around mid day I need to lay down for about an hour to nap. A vicious cycle.
I've now got a recumbent bike set up in my living room so I can spend a few minutes at a time on through the day; hoping that will be beneficial. My gym membership is for now just a donation to keeping the place going.
I had such a severe downturn in blood counts after tx #1 I'm kind of spooky to see what happens after tx #2. I'll be finding out Tuesday. After tx #1 my WBC was 0.8, neutraphils were -0-, so I wound up in "house arrest", just staying away from everything. I'm wondering now if that will be the case for the second week in each cycle. Well, it is what it is, and it won't last forever. I guess laying low for a while is OK if it will keep me out of the hospital.
My hair started seriously coming out by handsful on day 15, had an appointment on day 16 with my hairdresser to get it buzzed, but when I got there we decided that it was going to be all gone in just a few more days as fast as it was coming out, so she went ahead & shaved it on down with clippers. My head now feels like sandpaper, and I have surprised myself at how it has bothered me to be completely hairless. I have a wig that I got as soon as I knew I'd have chemo, and it looks just like my own hair (as close as it could, anyway), and as soon as the hair was gone, my hairdresser put the wig on me and it looks fine. I really love it.
My own hair was short, but very thick, and boy is a bare head COLD!! I can't stand not to have it covered, either for the looks or the comfort, so I always have the wig on in the daytime, take it off at bedtime and put on a nice little sleep cap I got from headcovers.com. As I'm transitioning from one headcover to the next I turn away from the mirror, or shield my eyes. Can't stand to see a bald me!
I'm considering that I'm now about 25% through this, and figuring that maybe by Christmas I'll have enough hair to be able to go without a head covering - possibly sooner.
My daughter and son-in-law and I all have iPads, and we've been using Facetime to have video chats - they called me last evening wanting to see my "hair"!! I'd already taken the wig off and put on the night cap, but I changed back so they could see what the wig looked like. They were both OK with it, or at least said they were. I don't care whether that was the truth or not, lie to me if you need to!
Here's wishing everyone a good weekend with minimal to no SEs!! My admiration for us all grows with each passing day; it's true that others can't really "get" just what's involved here unless they're really close, and after all, I guess we really wouldn't want them to.
Karon
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khintul....glad u wrote about the hair thing....i wonder if i will feel that same way u do...one never knows till it happens
i keep telling myself i am not going to let it get to me...but...who knows...thanks for your writing
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Karon - I am sure I will be the same way. I tend to just glance quickly in the mirror at myself now and look away since I have gained a lot of weight so I can imagine doing the same thing with my hair or lack thereof.
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Hi everyone! Well, my hives are now barely kept at bay with 50 mg benadryl every 4 hours. My oncologist is baffled. She's hoping the dermatologist can figure it out Monday. I no longer think it was the lotion but rather something systemic, maybe delayed reaction to chemo drugs or neulasta. She said it's possible, but she's never seen it before this far out from tx (started 8 days after first tx). I don't care about the rash (other than wanting to know what's causing it!), but I worry when my throat starts to get tight, as I am 20 minutes from the nearest medical care... Anyway, will carry on this weekend with benadryl every 4 hours and hopefully keep from going to the hospital. Other than the rash, I feel good now on day 12!
Hope everyone else has mild SE's and enjoy a nice weekend!
Amy
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Glad that you are keeping it under control with the benadryl Amy. Hope you get more answers Monday
Y'all I have just found my silver lining. I have lost 10 lbs. Now I know that probably isn't a good thing that I am not eating much but I was/am at a very unhealthy weight due to becoming very sedentary and eating junk before my dx so I definitely have it to lose. Hell of a diet though. -
You said it, Karri!
Thanks for sharing your experience with the hair buzzing vs not issue - think I'm going to wait until it starts to fall out, then put in a hair emergency call to my stylist sis so she can take care of the buzz at that point & then run right over to my wig guy for the custom fitting.
I keep reading that lots of you use Claritin - for what exactly could you please explain?
It's tough trying to keep up here with so many new posts daily - but in a very good way!
How many times do you get your CBC checked between tx to monitor the white cell count? I was reading the info on Neupogen & it suggested they be done twice a week...
At my first onc appt. I was given a large, comprehensive binder packed with info on each drug I'd be taking & what their individual side effects might be, along with "when to call" regarding their seriousness; all vital contact info, tips, one section just on cancer itself, exercising do's & don'ts; sleep hygiene, diet & resources. Lots of room for notes too - all set up in a very personalized format. Anyone else have similar? Chemo class will be the day before tx starts, so I'll have lots of questions just from issues brought forth in this forum - thanks to all!
CAYH Cindy
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Cindy the Claritin is to take before the Nuelasta shot to help with the side effects. No one really knows why as far as I could tell. My onco nurses didn't know about using it. I think you start the day before and continue for 5-7 days?? I only had 5 so that's what I took. Don't know if it helped or not. Still had pain but it wasn't exactly bone pain.
I am having my counts checked three times. Day of TX, then each week after. My MO indicated that it would only be for the first cycle but I may be confused..
My "education/class" was the chemo nurse sitting down with me on first TX when I was getting fluids. She had print offs off the two drugs I was taking and an additional print off of general chemo info with contact numbers etc. I had a whole list of questions that I didn't really ask because they weren't in front of me at the time. -
Cindy,
The Claritin is to keep the pain from the Neulasta shot away. Don't know the mechanics of it, but it sure seems to work. Take one Claritin the day before the shot, then one/day for about a week, and it keeps the bone pain away.
I've used thie now for both the Neulasta shots, and have had no pain. You'll see some posts from some who didn't take the Claritin at first, and had pretty heavy duty bone pain, then when they found out about the Claritin they took it and it made all the difference.
I just bought the generic Loratidine at Sam's, and it works fine.
As to white cell monitoring, so far mine is checked before each tx, then one week later. So basically, once a week. Guess that could be changed if I have more problems with extremely low counts.
Karon -
Hi Cindy - I got the same kind of binder as you...lots of info. So far I am only getting my blood checked the day before chemo. Claritan is for the bone pain from Neulasta. I heard about it on these forums...nothing from Onc. It seems to work for some but not all but for sure try it...you may be one of the lucky ones! If it doesn't work make sure you ask for painkillers...no sense in suffering. From what I have read on here its not a fun experience! Also stock up on pepsid or maalox...I had horrible reflux my first tx but now have a prescription heartburn med...total relief!!
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Love what are you on now for reflux/heartburn? I forgot to ask at my appt Monday what I should be using or ask for a rX. Need to write it down to ask Monday when I go for labs.
My mom has an arsenal of those type of meds and had given me some Pepcid but I can't tell if it is really working. Since I am not eating much I really feel it when I do eat something. Not the reflux I have had before but more of a just general discomfort and sometimes burning. -
Hi ladies - just took a 3 hour nap! But other than feeling a bit sluggish, doing good. Karri, I took a zantac this morning for heartburn.
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Hello all my fellow Marchers! I have been reading, reading, reading, trying to catch up on everyone's stuff that is going on. Sorry to hear most are having SE at all, let alone the more serious ones And life goes on. I hate to lerk but every time I start to post something gets in the way (ie: tired, naussea, etc).
Here is my week...
Sunday: 1st doses of steroid Dexamethason. Not really anything noticable that day.
Monday: Next dose of Dex. 1st tx T/C. I didn't have my port yet but it was ok. I had a good "vein finding" person and it wasn't that bad. Everything went ok with the 1st tx and I actually drove home! No issues except when they ran the 2nd drug (Citoxan) they ran it slow and then "ramped it up" a little. I started to feel like someone had put 2 fireworks sparklers in my nose, kind of smell/tingle not quite burning sensation. I immed rang the little bell and had 2 nurses attending to me. They set the drip back and then set back again. That seemed to take care of it. I still felt tiny remnants of it but it was ok. They said that is one of the most common SE with Cytoxin and they just slow down the drip. Its over when the infusion is pretty much. When I got home I was a little tired, so I slept off and on. It was a good day. They were very attentive to everyone, they had drinks and snacks, wigs that others had donated and scarves/hats that you can borrow. Oh yes, taste buds were a little off, still flavor but rather dull.
Tues: 3rd dose of steroid. On a buzz this time, lots of facial flushing. The energy felt good though, but I did have the jitters all day. Got the Neulasta injection but didn't take any other drugs. Wanted to find out if I'd need them first. Apparently I had the option of getting it in the fatty/muscle of my arm or my stomach... I chose stomach. No issues with bone pain/body aches or nausea from chemo.
Wed: I am super elated! No symptoms from anything today. I actually felt like I could go back to work!
Thurs: Day 4 after 1st tx. Today I'm having lots of nausea. I also get my port put in this morning. Took a Compazine at 7:30AM. It worked not too bad. Still some nausea. Went to clean up for surgery and saw my rt underarm was broke out in bumps with little "heads" on them. About half a dozen. Also there was 1 on the side of my left breast-mound, and 1 very large one on my belly. Also, my left fore-arm looked rather red and blotchy, like flat hives. No one knew what it could be as I had not taken anything the day before, nor had the compazine had time to work at that time. It went away the next day. Still have the underarm bumps though they are healing.
Not too worried about my port placement, I talked to the ps first to see if there was enough room with my TE's to place it where it needed to go. Walked into the OR got my IV, layed on the table. I was put into what they call a "twilight" sleep, still awake and could talk but not enough to really feel any pain. Except I did feel the 2 incisions made for the port. Felt only like someone taking a piece of duct tape off my skin. Other than that it was a quick recovery from the anesthesia and home I went. Neck was sore for 2 days and I have 2 incisions... one for the power-port below the collarbone and 1 near the neck on the upper side of the collarbone. He used dermabond to close so no external stitches. Looks bad but I'm sure once the glue wears off it'll be fine.
Fri: Not a good day, nausea and tired. Had to miss my youngest daughters graduation cerimony from Medical Assisting collage last night so I was bummed about that. She got her diploma in Jan, and at the cerimony she got awards for accademic excellence and perfect attendance! They got a rose that they were to present to their special someone and since i wasn't there she gave it to her dad. I am so proud of her. She is keeping track and going with to my chemos. Neighbor next door (22 year bc survivor!) brought me chocolate and pecans. Of course the chocolate bar is gone hahaha.
I was starting to have an issues with constipation but "my" remedy is sour cream! The kind I get has "active cultures" in it so I usually dip pretzels or baby dill pickles in it and just eat it that way. I hate to take meds so I'd rather do it food wise. It's working quite well today. Probably sounds weird to most I'm sure but I also drink buttermilk
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Sat: Nausea right away this morning, took a ativan, went to sleep till 1PM omg! Waited till 3pm to take a compazine. Drinking small sips of ginger aile helps. And not just water for hydration ladies (and men), anything liquid or that melts at room temp my dietitian said. If you drink 10 glasses of water you might run the risk of diluting your electrolytes and we don't need that on top of everything else. So here's to us, we will all do fine, WE CAN AND WILL DO THIS! Hang in there and be a junkyard dog like me and kick some cancer ass!!!!
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Karri - prilosec is what I am taking. I was having reflux and weird acidy burps...all day and all nite. I read that its the beginning of nausea but thankfully it didn't get that far. No problems at all for the second round because of the prilosec.
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Amy -picked up the magic mouthwash last night. Mine is made from benadryl, nystatin and hydrocortisone. I think its beginning to work - my tongue feels a bit less sore. It was so uncomfortable last night, I had mac & cheese for dinner and wished I had prepared something softer! I hope you'll soon get an answer to why you have hives. My son breaks out periodically and the docs have never figured out what causes them. Hope thats not the case for you.
Karri - your post got me to thinking that we all should try to post something positive when we can. Kind of like "a good thing that happened today was..." or "I enjoyed today because..." What does everyone think? Lord knows, we're going through tough times and any escape, even through the joys of someone else, would be welcome!
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I like it! It is a beautiful day and the sun felt wonderful on my skin!
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i just watched a great documentary on food and the body - it is free to watch till end of the month I think.
www.HungryForChange.tv/online-premiere -
Tx2 Day 7. Have been dealing with diarrhoea again yesterday and this morning. Ugh. Got it under control though, and now I'm feeling pretty good.
My husband put some music on before, and it actually got me up and dancing! So happy to know my legs still work.
My hair loss is crazy right now. Every time I look in the mirror I look different. The hair is falling everywhere, and scratches at my neck. I'm looking forward to it all being gone, in a strange sad sort of way.
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today is day 3 after my first tx ....tonite i am starting to get bloated in my tummy...feeling pretty burpy...think i will go lay down for the nite....maybe i ate too much....feeling yucky
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Hey All: my energy is returning... I still don't feel like the old me, but much mug closer than I did 3 days ago. So thankful for that. We had our daughter's bday party today an it turned out exactly as she wanted. No rain, I still have hair, and I managed to be upright the whole time. I'm so relieved! It was the thing I'd been dreading most since I finding out I had to do chemo: that I would be a wreck for her birthday.... Did it!
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Hi all!
1st tx - day 3, just little weak and tired. Home all day laid in bed, recliner, and lounge. Drank lots of water, no SE , my son got me protein shake from tropical smoothing today. Had steak and baked beans.
I had my first neupogen injection yesterday. I thought I was to get neulasta but didn'tI still take clartins, right? Even with neugopen ? So far no pains or maybe it's only 1st day? I'm supposed to get 2nd neugopen on Monday, then tues, wed, thurs. Then on Friday it is blood work for WBC check.
For Past 2 days I didn't feel like talking to anyone so pretty much kept to myself. Hopefully tomorrow is better? What days after chemo tx the SE shows up?
Thanks again love you all ! Xoxox -
Day 4 after tx #2. Don't feel great today. None of the intense bone pain from tx#1 though... which I attribute to getting only half the dose of the Neulasta this time. I took claritin last time, prior to the shot just like everyone says to, but it didn't help me.
I took it again this time, started earlier, prior to infusion along with 400mg of ibuprofen... but I think in my case, less pain has to do with less Neulasta.Still feel achy all over, especially joints, some minor bone pain still. My teeth ache. Mouth is tasteless and feels fuzzy. Feel sad. Got my period... seems the treatments trigger my period rather than stop. Anyone else? I was bleeding so heavy during tx#1, I was admitted to hospital. Its not as heavy now... but its early. I've never gotten it every 3 weeks before.
Anyway.. lots of good live music in town on this warm March Saturday night... several friends out and about... here I am in bed with my kindle and my dog...feeling sorry for myself. Grateful for less pain. Focusing on that as much as possible.
Glad to have your company and hope everyones SEs stay minimal. Hugs to fellow- Marchers.
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Lady fighter, I take Neupogen, too. I am doing 5 shots of it...just one left. I have been taking claritin, not sure if it helps. I have intermittent achiness, but nothing incapacitating. Mostly I feel like I have the flu. Hoping to feel better next week and go back to work at least a few hours a day. Right now I am on day 5.
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Day 10 I still have to shave my legs? I had my hair cut short a couple of day ago and I am enjoying the style change. I wore my wig out last night just for fun and came home with it on nobody noticed lol I think I just looked like my normal self. I felt a little tired for a couple of days last week and have had sore lips and a bit a fuzzy feeling in the mouth. Feeling great at the moment be being careful not to over do it. My biggest challenge is sticking to my vegan diet and making sure I am eating enought vegetables
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