I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    we have to thank cycle-path for the video link - it was on the Now Locked Thread, cuz some posters are allowed to post, ah, stuff ( don't wanna say what I really think here) about terminations being linked to BC, but we can't post anything else about "keep yer hands off my body" - ah, well...

    Cycle-path's link to this video is really going VIRAL - just posted on several places...such a great tune!  

    Does anyone remember the movement "Uppity Women Unite, Take Back the Night"- may have been b4 all your time - but maybe Hapy LIbby remembers - BTW, I like the books they read in your house ;)

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited March 2012
    scuttlers ... I think I recall something about that definition ... you are a trendsetter   Laughing
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    ooooohhhhh...aahhhhh...gotta be "careful" around "our scuttlers"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scuttlers but bet she'll protect us if our Old Ladies on Scooters gang ever gets bothered.Wink

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited March 2012

    That's not the definition I thought I was remembering ...

  • Ang7
    Ang7 Member Posts: 1,261
    edited March 2012

    As we are chatting about books, I have a question...

    So teen daughter went to the book store to get a copy of In Cold Blood to read for AP English. 

    This is 10th grade and I am a bit peeved about her having to read this book.

    She is an avid reader but she also tends to have nightmares about things and this is one novel that I do not think I would  have her read.

    Emailed the teacher and she said "most kids play video games and watch movies with content that is more violent than this book."

    I was told the events from this book were about a true murder?  I am now reading it myself since I never did.

    Any thoughts?

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited March 2012

    You read it and then you'll be able to discuss it with your daughter. The violent murders are not the whole story. On edit I wanted to add that by 10th grade she knows much more about the world then you think.

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited March 2012

    Sorry, I read it, tried to dismiss it and then couldn't. Patmom wrote: "Are you implying that those children don't have the right to learn how to read because you don't approve of the material that interests them?" 

    That sort of slippery slope logical fallacy indicates an inability to argue the point rationally. Of course no one is implying that any children would not have the right to learn how to read. Just as every child has that right, every parent has the responsibility to help their children learn to read.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited March 2012

    Gosh, the things I miss with my liberal use of the "ignore" button. Just as well. I agree with you, Lassie.



    L

  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited March 2012

    My college roommate dated Gary Trudeau's college roommate, so maybe I'm prejudiced, but I love Doonesbury. As for Dr Suess he wrote some contoversial stuff too. Every child has the right to learn to read and every parent has the responsibity to moniter what their children read. I read a lot of books because my children were reading them. Then we would discuss them. That is education. Banning books or comic strips from the house is silly because kids will just read them when their parents are not around.

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited March 2012

    In Cold Blood is an excellent book and I don't think your daughter in Grade 10 is going to be badly effected by reading it. The teacher is right there is more violence on TV and the movies and games these days - the suggestion that you also read the book is an excellent one - I don't think people your daughter's age should have their reading material censored - I read Dr. Zhivago at age 13 because it was on my parents bedside table - we were allowed to read anything in the house and it made all three of us avid readers (just like our parents).

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited March 2012

    Ha, ha ha, HL!!! Need I say that I share similar sentiments? Never much one for sophistry/faulty reasoning.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited March 2012

    Re In Cold Blood:  Read it shortly after it was published.  Then I saw the movie -- much more disturbing than the book.  Then another movie was made, called "Infamous", about Truman Capote (Toby Jones) and Harper Lee (Sandra Bullock) travelling to the small Kansas town to do research for the book.  Such a good movie -- if it's ever on TV, be sure to watch it.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    HappyLibby - we must share the same ignore button, so happy to be joining you in "missing" nothing of value.....

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited March 2012

    The "ignore" button is a wonderful thing. Of course, I've lost my use of the "report" button for "several" days, however long that is. 

    As far as reading goes, my parents let me read anything I wanted when i was growing up. I am still an avid reader. I guess I'm partial to books, but I've never had any problems with anything my kids had to read for school. I have more trouble with the movies that my 3rd grade students tell me they watch at home...."Saw" is one example that comes to mind. I've also had a kindergartener tell me he loves to play "Mortal Kombat". That really bothers me.

    Mary 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    Mary

    Can NOT imagine what you could have said that would be so treacherous to the reporters. There were some valuable posts on that thread - the Colbert Report, and the Slut Song for two!  Just wonderful.   Of course Jon Stewart is always brilliant - and he's had so much good material to work with lately.

    Wouldn't worry about not having a "report" function - it's useless, doesn't stop any of the nonsense.

    Sending GOOD WISHES to Blue - hope she's finding life being good to her ( and Virgil)

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited March 2012

    I just want to know how many days is several days. And it was weird-first I was reported, my post was taken down, my account was banned, I was unbanned, and all was OK. Then I was put on restriction after all that. The mods said it was because they were upholding the removal of my post. I'll PM them in a couple of days and beg my case.

    Mary 

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited March 2012

    GIRLS!!! - I'm back from getting my hair straightened!!! I love it!!! The hairdresser said some curl will come back in the next couple of days which is good as I didn't want dead straight hair. Zometa infusion this afternoon - not looking forward to that.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited March 2012

    I've missed all of the fun because I have people blocked.  Ah well.  I've always read everything and still do, including all of the books my daughter read for school and still reads.  Books are a great starting point for discussion and bonding.

    Speaking of books, I highly recommend the Hunger Games series and Ender's Game.   

    Susieq - love the hair!  Very sleek and chic.   

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited March 2012

    Scoot - I love it too - can't stop smiling. When I went in it was an Afro - what a difference!!

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited March 2012

    No more wooly coo.  How will your grandchildren recognize you?  :-)

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited March 2012

    I'm not sure if Poppy recognised me :)

    I've only got one grandchild at the moment - next one in June :) I've posted on the chemo forum to give some others hope. It cost $150 but I don't care - should last for 4 months they said.

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited March 2012

    Okay... some random facts:

    1) I live in Alabama, and I voted today.  Don't ask.

    2) It's worth noting that some newspapers haven't published the Doonesbury or Mallard Fillmore comic strips (the daily versions) on their comics pages for years.  Our local paper has been printing them on their op-ed page for a very long time.  I can't speak for the paper's editor, but I think the reasoning was that those "comic" strips were really more opinion/editorial than comedy.  I don't know whether they printed the strips y'all are talking about, because we don't subscribe to the paper and we've been out of town.

    3) For Ang7:  my 10th-grade reading list was memorable.  It was a long time ago (a very long time), but I clearly recall reading "Seven Days in May," which was about a planned military overthrow of the U.S. government, and "Fail-Safe," which was about a computer mishap that resulted in a nuclear attack being launched by the U.S. against Moscow.  Both those novels were published in 1962, when everybody in the U.S. was really tightly wound with fears of nuclear holocaust.  Even my Dad built a fallout shelter in the basement for our small, lower middle-class family. I still cringe when I watch those movies (both films were released in 1964).

    4) OTOH... I also read "In Cold Blood," but I think I was a few years older -- maybe a freshman in college.  That story scared the stuffing out of me.  It was horrible.  I actually had nightmares about the murder scene.  I never could bring myself to watch the movie.

    But, then, I'm no good with horror movies, especially if they involve brutality.  Okay, carnivorous dinosaurs, fine.  But, mass murderers who kill people with chain saws, or who tie their victims to the beds and light the house on fire (etc.), not so much.  That's just me, though.  YMMV.

    otter (who is addicted to reruns of NCIS and Law & Order)

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited March 2012

    Susie-I love your hair!

    I am currently reading "The Hunger Games" and liking it a lot. It took me a long time to decide to read it because it was recommended to me by the same people who were gushing over "Twilight", which in my opinion, was a absolute piece of drivel.

    Mary 

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited March 2012

    Yes, Twilight was moderately entertaining drivel.

    The Hunger Games series is MUCH better! 

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited March 2012

    I swear the girl in Twilight could do nothing without feeling like she was going to faint. And the guys spent a lot of time glowering. It pains me to admit I read 2 books in the series because I thought it had to get better. It was college educated co-workers, most with master's degrees, who were peeing their pants over the books. 

    Yes, Hunger Games is much better. Better plot, more developed characters......no swooning(at least so far.)

    Mary 

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited March 2012

    Oh, Otter ... Fail Safe the movie ... I only ever watched it once and never quite got over it. DH had it on and I left the room. I warned him that it was terribly disturbing. After it was over, he came to find me and all his freckles were standing out on his face. He said, rather shaken, "YES, it was disturbing. Very disturbing." Nothing ever disturbs him because he is a cop, but that movie sure did. He won't ever watch it again either, and he LOVES shoot-em-up violent movies, He LOVED "No Country For Old Men." I, OTOH, had a nightmare about a fish in my armpit after watching "Finding Nemo." I am a lightweight. I still do have nightmares about old "Twilight Zone" or "Outer Limits" shows.



    My freshman reading list was a little gentler. We read "Portrait of Jenny." Of course, we also read Macbeth and Hamlet.

  • Ang7
    Ang7 Member Posts: 1,261
    edited March 2012

    Otter~

    I am torn as this daughter has had nightmares after reading disturbing articles in the newspaper...

    Thanks for the input all.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited March 2012

    HL-A fish in your armpit after watching "Finding Nemo"? Bwahahahah! Sorry to laugh at your fears, but that was just plain funny!

    Mary 

  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited March 2012

    Oh, Otter,

    We're twins separated at birth!! I had political thrillers on hold at the library and read Fail Safe and  Seven Days in May right off the presses. I also read In Cold Blood right after it was published. I'm still a political junkie and I'm addicted to Criminal Minds. I also wach Law & Order reruns.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited March 2012

    I like to read true crime books, and I also like to watch stuff like "48 Hours Mystery" and "Forensic Files" on TV. My husband claims I'm trying to figure out how to murder him and get away with it.

    Mary 

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