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  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited February 2012

    Judy, for the abdomen, is he talking about doing a DIEP or a tram flap. The most current procedure is the DIEP because it does not remove the abdomenal muscle. You should find out which procedure it would be before you make a decision. 

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited February 2012

    Judy...I had a lump..but be sure to read the other threads on here about both the procedures..I have heard that the one taking from the back can cause some movement issues...but I really don't know anything about either one so I will just shut up now!

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited February 2012

    My friend had the Lat Dorsi (taken from the back) and it has worked well for her. She's an avid golfer and it hasn't prevented her from playing. I don't know anyone else who has had it. But I agree with Titan to check the other threads. There is lots of information.

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited February 2012

    Wow! Thank you all for your help and input. I will definitely check the other threads and look into the two procedures before I make the decision.

    Amy, I think you are right in that, having to enter into the whole BC part of my life so intensely for a day, would definitely tire me out. Please let us know how your appt goes next week.

    Betsy, how are you doing?

    Hope Geri is having fun! Hugs to all, Judy x

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited February 2012

    Helen, the abdominal option is the DIEP. I have also been in touch with my doctors in the US to ask their opinions on the two different procedures. I have a history with them and I am new to the doctors here, I find that quite hard.

    Hope everyone is having a good day, hugs, Judy x

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited February 2012

    Wishing you all a great weekend!

    Betsy, I hope all is ok with you.

    Take care and sending hugs,

    Judy x

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited February 2012

    Hi all,

    A quick note to say I am back in the States - wonderful vacation, loved Jamaica, had a great time with my daughter and now need to "rest" from my rest - will be back on soon!

     And thank you all for wishing me a good vacation - it worked!

    Geri

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited February 2012

    Geri, welcome home. Glad you had a good holiday. Looking forwrd to hearing details.

    So we have more good news in the family. We are expecting yet another baby. This will be #1 child for son #2 and DIL. ...so one baby in April and another baby in August and a wedding in the works.  

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited February 2012

    Geri, welcome back! So pleased you had a good time, looking forward to hearing all about it.

    Helen, wonderful news! Enjoy every minute of your growing family! I was so happy to read your post, really made my day Smile!

    I have just got back from my Onc check up; everything is ok thankfully. She wants me to do tumor marker blood tests before I see her next, which will be in 4 months.

    Enjoy your Sunday everyone, sending hugs, Judy x

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited February 2012

    Welcome home Geri!..so glad you had a good time...

    Judy...glad everything is ok...still nervewracking though isn't it?

    We are all coming up on 3 years here aren't we????

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited February 2012

    It is definitely still nerve wracking Titan, I had a hard day yesterday. But we had dinner in the evening with good friends that we made in the US so that was a great way to round off the day.

    Can you believe it has been 3 years? I was diagnosed in Jan 2009 and had my surgery in March 2009. I am sure that on some level I am reliving it all at the moment.

    Have a good day everyone, Betsy, please come by when you can to let us know how you are.

    Hugs, Judy x

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited February 2012

    I think I had my surgery 3 years ago today....

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2012

    My annual mammo and BS appt is tomorrow morning. It is definitely on my mind and my stomach has butterflies no matter how confident I keep telling myself I am. This is a hard time of year for sure.


    Hang in there everyone. 

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited February 2012

    Very hard....i'm the late bloomer of the group..diagnosed in March, surgery in March,,first chemo was the end of April...I really liked the April group and decided to be with you guys instead of going to the May group...kinda of a pyschological thing...April was a month earlier to start this stuff...

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited February 2012

    Hi all,

    I had my mammogram last week, it caused a flare up with my truncal LE and my arm. GGRRRR. Good news is NED.

    My abdomen is finally looking like I'm 3 mos pregnant vs 7 mos.....so improvement on that front.

    I had my 2nd appt with my gastroenterologist today. Things are improving on that front too..TG. But he said regardless of the outcome of my genetic test (still no news) he wants me on a stricter protocol for colonoscopies in the future. Like every 2 yrs. He said not all the gene mutations have been mapped in Lynch syndrome. He said with my "ugly family history" that he wants to be safe rather than sorry. I believe he meant my "ugly cancer family history" otherwise I guess I should have been offended. LOL.

    Three year mark...has come and gone for me for the dx. My surgery was on Friday the 13th of March, an easy day to remember. I hate the "C" word but getting to know all of you has been one positive outcome from this awful disease. Hugs to all.

    Betsy 

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited February 2012

    Amy, good luck with your appt, hope it all goes ok, please let us know; is definitely a hard time of year. As Amy says, hang in there everyone!

    Betsy, thanks for coming by; it is always something, isn't it? I suppose it is good that your doc wants to be safe rather than sorry, but it is hard having to do all these tests. It makes it such a big part of our lives. I would love to be able to not think about it for longer periods; my new Onc here does so much follow up, I come back from an appt and have to make appts for different types of tests, blood work, ultrasounds, etc and it makes me very stressed. I tried to get out of the Colonoscopy in May, but she said if I don't do it this year, then I have to do it next year. So, I am going to do it and get it over with. Betsy, thinking about you often.

    Titan, so glad you decided to join this group, would not have been the same without you Wink.

    Helen, how are you doing? My surgery was 4th March, I need to think of something to do on Sunday to take my mind off it.

    Hope you all have a good day! Hugs, Judy x

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2012

    Just back from mammogram and appt with BS.  All is fine, mammo is normal, see you next year. Music to my ears!

    It was very triggering to go back into the cancer center though. Not on a conscious level (although it's not my favorite place to be) but subconsciously. It just stirred up a discomfort deep inside me as I walked in. I almost came to tears but managed to control it, and then after I was there a little while, I was more used to it and felt ok again.

    Interesting thing the BS said - she was talking about women's fear of cancer returning, and she said that almost all early stage BC patients (except those who present at stage 3b or 4 from the beginning) are going to die from something other than BC. She said that she has all these obese, sedentary women bc patients who are all worried about recurrance. She says she tells them that it is heart disease that is going to get them, not bc, and that they need to become more active, lose weight, etc. but they aren't interested in doing anything about that (even though those same activities would reduce their risk of recurrance as well).  She said it is a phenomenon that these women are fixated on the fear of recurrance but not taking care of their health in other ways, and that she sees time and again that the heart disease is what gets them.

    I found that very interesting, but understandable. I remember when my GP wanted to check my cholesterol and I thought "Who cares about cholesterol? I just want to beat bc." Because we have fought against THIS disease, it is the one we are concerned about. But she is right - heart disease is a huge killer of women and I guess we need to be proactive about preventing it, too. She was very happy about my fitness regimen, btw. 

    And then, I was back out in the bright sunshine of a beautiful day, sending a text to my daughters to tell them the results were good, driving to a work appointment, back to my regularly scheduled life. But I sure do hate being in the patient role, esp in that cancer center.

    Love to all. Thank you as always, for being there. 

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited February 2012

    Amy, thanks for coming by and updating us - so pleased that everything was normal. I am sure that was music to your ears!

    I think that our reaction now to check ups is very different of that of the past years; We were so entrenched in the sickness, surgery, treatment regimen that we didn't really have time to step back and process what was actually happening to us. Now, we live relatively normal lives for the most part and then we have a check up or test and it all comes flooding back. We think on some level that it is all behind us and then there it is again! For me, that emotion is hard to deal with and I also found myself very teary on Sunday. I had to really pull myself together to remind myself that it was just a check up and the tests are follow up for my benefit. Then on Monday morning, once I had all the necessary appointments in place, I was able to think about something else.

    Maybe this is the transition from our lives being all about BC to it becoming a "chapter" in our lives. I don't think I am there yet, my emotional responses are still quite strong, but only at specific times of the year.

    Amy, we are always here, that is the beauty of this group. Sending hugs to one and all, Judy x

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited March 2012

    Hi all, hope everyone is ok. Wishing you all a great weekend!

    Hugs, Judy x

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited March 2012

    Happy first weekend of March, our third year anniversary! Here's a prayer that we all celebrate together our thirty year anniversary (Wow - I would be 93...that's ok, I'll take it), and I'm saying a little remembrance prayer for our Lena.

    Geri

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited March 2012

    Geri, you and I are the same age. While it would be nice to think I'd get to 93, I'm not optimistic about it. I have too many health issues at my current age already as well as the BRCA2.

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited March 2012

    Hi all,

    Just stopping by before we leave on vacation. I just got back from the ER. Had to go because my leg has been swelling for the last two days. I called the onc this morning because it seems to be getting worse.  He said with my recent abdominal surgery and because I am taking tamox he was concerned about a blood clot. But I'm happy to report, no blood clot just edema. I'm thinking more lymphedema...now in my leg. Other than the leg swelling my arm and chest are slowing improving. I have an appt. with my LE specialist on Mar 16th. Does this ever end? 

    I will say a prayer for all of you as we honor our anniversary. I'm thinking of Lena too!

    Wishing you all a good week.

    Betsy

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited March 2012

    Hi Betsy. It never ends, does it? But I'm glad you got it checked out and it's not a clot.



    I get a lymphatic drain massage every 6 weeks or so. Also at my exercise class at the cancer centre they said jumping on a trampoline is very good to get those fluids moving. Not my idea of a good time but if it helps.......



    I often think about Lena



  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited March 2012

    Betsy, glad to hear that it wasn't a clot! Enjoy your vacation, you certainly deserve it Cool.

    Today, 3 years ago, I had my surgery and I too hope that we will all be here sharing our lives, 30 years from now.

    Sending hugs to you all and a special one to our Lena.

    Have a good day everyone, Judy x

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited March 2012

    AH...I want to send a hug to Lena..wherever she is...truly miss her.

    Amy...thanks for sharing your visit with your onc...

    You guys know I'm active on the TN thread..we have had 4 girls go to Stage 4 in the past few months...this is very hard for me to take...I love them all dearly (just like you guys)...being tn is tough because we have no herceptin or tamox to take to help us out..it is very scary sometimes....the good thing is..that 3 years out is very, very good for we tn's...but it still freaks me out...at first when I heard this I stayed away from the thread for a few days...but it was still there..in my mind...

    I decided that I had to go back there..and just be normal (?)...

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited March 2012

    Titan, I am TN from 1st dx and I am 100%ES+ from second dx. Not sure which one I should worry about. 

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited March 2012

    Titan, sorry to hear that you are having a hard time and that there are four women on the TN thread who have become stage 4. It must be hard. It really sucks doesn't it? Thinking about you.

    Helen, sending you (((hugs))), you sound a bit down lately, are you doing ok?

    I am doing ok, have another job interview tomorrow, so will keep you posted on that.

    Hope everyone has a good day, hugs to you all, Judy x

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited March 2012

    Titan - it is scary/upsetting when those we know have a recurrance or take a turn for the worse. I am so sorry.

    Judy - hope this job interview is a better fit for you. But I know the right one WILL turn up, whether it is this one or not. You have good judgement - you will know when it is right.

    All - I am taking the DAY OFF tomorrow (when do i ever say that?) and going to Philadelphia to the Flower Show. Will meet my daughter there (both my daughters live in Philly) and spend the day with her. I LOVE the Flower Show - it is a foretaste of spring and a reminder that winter will not last forever. This year's theme is Aloha/Hawaii - it is going to be beautiful. I wonder if I could figure out how to post some photos on here.  Anyway, I am excited to have a good day.

    I remember 3 years ago, I had a day trip to the Flower Show planned with my sister in law, and I was dx just a day or two ahead of time and was not emotionally able to go, so we cancelled.  The year after that, I went with her but we didn't stay long - I was still in treatment and tired easily. But last year I went with both my daughters and had a GREAT time.  And I am planning to do so tomorrow as well.  The other daughter couldn't go tomorrow, so she and I will go to the Philadelphia Art Museum and see the traveling Van Gogh exhibit in April. It is the only stop it is making in the US. We are lucky it is here. I love Van Gogh - went to his museum in Amsterdam - beautiful! I call these outings "mommy and me" days - it is sort of a joke between us. They're never too old to do something with mom (and still young enough to let me pay for everything!)

    So many milestones this time of year.  

    Hugs to all

    Amy 

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited March 2012

    Very difficult day today - my friend who had a cancer diagnosis shortly after I returned to work full time passed away.  They never found her primary site - so sad.  Then I was told that one of our little ones in my home care company, 3 years old, also passed away two days after she had her birthday party.  Just a down day all the way around - you guys understand.

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited March 2012

    Oh yeah Geri..we understand..too much sadness in this world...

    I worry..not just about cancer but just the whole world itself....not to be too political but really?  In the US..isn't there someone GOOD that can be president?  Where do "they" come up with these candidates anyway?  I guess no one GOOD wants the job...

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