Informal Poll - Where were you treated and what was your chemo?

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TectonicShift
TectonicShift Member Posts: 752
edited June 2014 in Stage III Breast Cancer

It's been driving me a little nuts reading about all the different chemo treatments that even stage 3 patients are getting. Why can't they figure out which is most effective?

I'm in Boston and I had 4 DD AC + 4 DD Taxol. That's standard in this town. I had adjuvant. I was told by the BS that MGH gives neoadjuvant to only about 30% of patients. But maybe TAC would have been better? Or FEC+T? Or FAC+T? Or....? 

Anyway, I got the protocol that's standard at MGH, Dana Farber, Memorial Sloan Kettering, and Johns Hopkins (I think). But I'm curious to understand if these differences are purely regional or what. So if you're up for it, please state where you were treated (city or state or province -- or specific hospital / breast center if you don't mind) and what chemo treatment you got.

As an exercise, let's see if we can get a picture of all the different treatments that are currently being used and whether the protocols are clustered by geography. Thanks in advance. 

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  • Janetanned
    Janetanned Member Posts: 532
    edited March 2012

    I was diagnosed in October, had surgery (BMX/DIEP) in November and began chemo in January.  The only option given or recommended by my MO was 4 AC DD followed by 4 Taxol DD.  This will be followed by radiation (33txs).  I am being treated at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania (HUP).  

  • Racy
    Racy Member Posts: 2,651
    edited March 2012

    I'm in Brisbane, Australia. I had stage 2 ILC with isolated tumour cells in 2 nodes. I saw 2 oncs in the same practice and was given these options:



    1. AC x 4 + T x 4 (can't remember which T) every 3 weeks

    2. TAC x 6 every 3 weeks



    I chose TAC because it was quicker and I preferred the onc who recommended it.



    The referral from my BS to onc stated 'third generation' chemo and I understand the TAC is 3G so that was another reason I was 'keen' to have it.



    I have seen a lot of TAC long term survivors here.

  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited March 2012

    Being treated in Southern Maine. Choose to stay local because my 2nd opinion oncologist at Dana Farber recommended same protocol. I still contact him for just about every scan, echo, and question I have. If it wasn't an hour winter's drive into Boston I would have definitely gone there.

    I am doing 4 x AC dd, 12 x Taxol/Herceptin weekly, then rads, and continue Herceptin every 3 weeks for 1 year.

  • Rachel1
    Rachel1 Member Posts: 363
    edited March 2012

    Rocky Mountains. IDC 4.5 grade 3 with 7+ nodes, ER/PR+, BRCA2+

    Lumpectomy first. Then I had 4 A/C dd, 4 taxotere dd. Then 37 rads. I've also had bilateral mastectomy and hysterectomy.

    My local onc recommended this protocol and my 2nd opinion at a University hospital in Denver recommended the same.  If they had disagreed, I would have gone "home" to Boston and Dana Farber.

    Rachel 

  • twistedsteel
    twistedsteel Member Posts: 156
    edited March 2012

    edited to add, i am being treated at the Arizona Cancer Center through Univ Med Center, in Tucson. My sig says it all, except I didn't complete 30 rads. Stopped at 23, had a 9 day break for healing the open oozing places on my incision line. Then 2 more for total of 25. RO decided against boosts. I should be starting Xeloda this week.

  • ck55
    ck55 Member Posts: 346
    edited March 2012

    I was treated at Swedish Hospital in Seattle and I had 4 rounds of DD A/C every two weeks and then 4 rounds of DD Taxol every two weeks followed up with 6 weeks of radiation.

  • Outfield
    Outfield Member Posts: 1,109
    edited March 2012

    Stage III, ER+ HR-, started chemo 7/2010 small city in the middle of nowhere, SW USA.  4 DD AC, 4 DD Taxol, infusion every 2 weeks. 

  • puce
    puce Member Posts: 159
    edited March 2012

    Hi,

    How interesting.  I am not stage 3 but was treated at Beth Isreal in Boston so in your region.  I was stage 1c ER/PR - HER 2 + Grade 3, I am 39 years old.  I got neoadjuvant chemo, 4 dose dense A/C every 2 weeks, 12 Taxol/Herceptin and now on a year of herceptin.  Also had DCIS.  I has a BMX with DIEP reconstruction, ONC pushed for that, BS said lumpectomy could of been OK.  I do not need any radiation or other drugs alfter I finish the Herceptin because I have no more  breast tissue and tamoxifen is to reduce reoccurence.  They didn't even want to know the pathology of the DCIS since I had the BMX.  The reason they did neoadjuvant is to see how well the chemo worked.  It melted the tumor (estimated to be 2cm) and I had no IDC left in my breast after the BMX pathology report came back.  Complete response ONC said.  When I asked about why the A/C I was told it is the one that works best (it is also the most cardiotoxic so if you have heart problems they would not give it to you).  I was told 12 Taxols instead of 4 because the smaller dose they give each week reduces the side effects.  I was told my odds of getting another breast cancer was about 50% from the ONC's experience but she couldn't prove that.  She sees a lot of patients so...I believed her.  That number is much higher than the 7-10% that is the standard quote from BS.

    If you are interested in getting an opinion from her PM me.

    I believe I got the most aggressive treatment possible for my cancer.  Sometimes I think a little too aggressive, but for me, better safe than sorry.  

  • puce
    puce Member Posts: 159
    edited March 2012

    What was your diagnosis? What are the characteristics of your tumor and your age?  All this plays a role, I think.

    I was told, we don't mess around with stage 1 anymore...

    Also there are some guidelines from the national cancer institute.  You can find them on-line and read them for yourself.  This is what BI uses.

  • myrtle1
    myrtle1 Member Posts: 29
    edited March 2012

    I did 4 DD (every 2 weeks) AC followed by 12 weekly taxol, followed by 35 rads, which inluded the boost. Surgery & treatment at New York Columbia Presbyterian Hosp....

  • mrsnjband
    mrsnjband Member Posts: 1,409
    edited March 2012

    4DD AC - 8 Taxol, 3.5 Taxotere, Bilateral Mastectomy, 25 rads, 5 boosts.  

    Treated at local doctors & centers. 

  • MiniMacsMom
    MiniMacsMom Member Posts: 595
    edited March 2012

    Following md anderson standard protocol for now. T+FAC after my mx. But they would have done it bf my mx except i had already had it done locally. Good luck. Btw the taxol was weekly and for me it was easy.

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited March 2012

    RMCC in Denver,CO

    TAC X 6 every 3 weeks.....first bilat mastectomy, then chemo, then rads, AI's and ooph....

  • sugarplum
    sugarplum Member Posts: 318
    edited March 2012

    Hello from Kelso, Washington - I had 6 treatments of TAC (3 weeks apart) at Legacy Good Samaratin Hospital in Portland, Oregon. My signature tells my story...

    Julie

  • mary625
    mary625 Member Posts: 1,056
    edited March 2012

    4DD AC followed by 4DD Taxol at Georgetown U Hospital. Second opinion at Johns Hopkins agreed. This was neoadjuvant chemo.

  • kathleen1966
    kathleen1966 Member Posts: 793
    edited March 2012

    I had surgery first, then chemo, 6 TCH, then 33 rads and finished the year of Herceptin.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2012

    I had surgery first, then DD AC x 4 & DD T x 4 every two weeks for both.  Then 33 rads and now 5 yrs of Tamoxifen w/ Effexor (for hot flashes).  I'm in Ohio being treated at a military hospital.

  • Ihopeg
    Ihopeg Member Posts: 399
    edited March 2012

    I had mastectomy, TAC X 6 every three weeks, 25 days of rads and 5 boosts, ooph, and have been on femara 4 1/2 years. Treated in suburban Phila.. 

  • jenlee
    jenlee Member Posts: 504
    edited March 2012

    Orange County, CA, just completed # 5 of TAC x 8 every three weeks.  BMX to follow.

      Was originally TAC X 6, the reason for the lucky eight is the release of a new study. My MO was really excited about this...German (GeparTrio) study on Neoadjuvant Chemo was released at the 2011 San Antonio Symposium... http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/755590  
  • Celtic_Spirit
    Celtic_Spirit Member Posts: 748
    edited March 2012

    I was diagnosed in February 2008, had a bmx, TAC chemo from late May 2008 to mid-September 2008 every three weeks, followed by 6 wks of rads, 4 rounds of zometa, tamoxifen 2 yrs, now on arimidex, and an oophorectomy in March 2009. I'm in San Diego, CA, and was treated by Kaiser HMO.

    My oncologist went to med school on the East Coast but has practiced on the West Coast for 15+ years. During my initial visit, she mentioned something to the effect that there's an East Coast and a West Coast philosophy to chemo and cancer treatment, but my head was spining pretty badly at the time and I can't remember what she mean't or which philosophy she subscribed to!

  • faithfulheart
    faithfulheart Member Posts: 544
    edited March 2012

    I HAD A BMX  WITH RECON FOLLOWED BY, ACX 4 ......................DDTAXOL X12 ONCE A WEEK,, OOPH AND 38 RADS, FOLLOWED BY TAMOX, 5 YRS THEN SWITCH TO FEMAR!!! WOW, THAT JUST WORE ME OUT..TREATED IN CALIFORNIA BY ADVANCED BREAST CARE SPECIALISTS, AND MISSION HOSPITAL, MISSION 0ONCOLOGY.  HAD THE BEST DOCS IN SOUTH ORANGE COUNTY. MO, FROM THE CITY OF HOPE...................

    HUGSSSSSSSSSS

  • lifelover
    lifelover Member Posts: 553
    edited March 2012

    I was treated in England, East Anglia region, Suffolk County.  BMX first.  Then I had FEC-T which was 3 courses of FEC and 3 of Docetaxol (each 3 weeks apart).  I was treated at a local NHS hospital.  The other BC women I spoke to had the same regimen.

    I'm so pleased to see other Stage 3 survivors here.  Some diagnosed quite awhile ago.  It gives me so much more hope. 

  • caaclark
    caaclark Member Posts: 936
    edited March 2012

    Diagnosed in 2006:

    Treated at CINJ (Cancer Institute of NJ in New Brunswick).  Radiation in Princeton(closer to home).  In the order of treatment:

    1.  Lumpectomy

    2.  Chemo-  4 AC(DD) followed by 4 Taxol(DD). 

    3.  Single Mast. No Recon.

    4.  Radiation-36 or 37 doses

    5.  Tamoxifen

    6.  Hysterectomy

    7.  Femara

  • financegirl
    financegirl Member Posts: 114
    edited March 2012

    Treated in northern VA outside DC.  Lived there for over 40 years, moved over 1.5 hrs away.  I'd read that there are (maybe more now) but 8 Cancer Centers of Excellence and nothern VA was within an hour of two of them so that sealed the deal.  Stage IIIc, many many nodes involved.  Had lumpectomy, not clear enough margins so mastectomy. 

    Had DD 4 A/C, followed by 4 taxotere every other week,  Onto 35 rads, last 6 were boost and beginning Feb put on Arimidex. 

    I spoke with 3 oncologists before selecting one and was told there is a standard protocol; all 3 gave me the above treatment plan so there must be something to that.  But I have also read that where one lives has a lot to do with treatment despite standard protocol.  I now live out in the middle of nowhere and b/c of that I went back "home" if you will for treatment.

  • tedwilliams
    tedwilliams Member Posts: 178
    edited March 2012

    I was treated on the North Shore of New Orleans.  My chemo was neoadjuvant:  4  DD A/C and 4 DD Taxol, mastectomy, then 25 rads.  Now on Tamoxifen.

  • jennyboog
    jennyboog Member Posts: 1,322
    edited March 2012

    I was dx in Hawaii at a military hospital.  I was scheduled to do TAC.  I did ACx4 there, moved to NC and did Taxoterex4.  I am now at another hospital in NC and I asked if they would have done the same tx and they said yes, it's the standard.

  • mamabee
    mamabee Member Posts: 546
    edited March 2012

    Being treated in the Virginia suburbs of Washington DC. Currently in the middle of TACx6. Will be followed by a UMX and 6 weeks of radiation (I have at least 1 node & skin involvement). I had a second opinion at Hopkins and they concurred with this plan. Regarding the choice of chemo, my MO said it was really just a matter of "style" (whatever that means) and the doctors at Hopkins concurred, saying all 3rd generation chemos are essentially the same.

  • GeorgiaRai
    GeorgiaRai Member Posts: 175
    edited March 2012

    I'm still learning about all of this and agree, posy1, it's confusing.  In one of my initial onc visits, she told me I would either need ACx4/Tx4 or TACx6, depending on the results of my SNB (surgeon wanted neoadjuvant due to the extent of the tumor).  When my PET scan and SNB both confirmed lymph node involvement, she went with TACx6.  In my mind, things like "dose dense" and more treatments closer together make it seem like the ACx4/Tx4 would more agressive...it makes my brain hurt trying to figure it all out!

    That being said, I'm getting TACx6 here in the northern suburbs of Atlanta, GA.  My onc (graduated from & practiced at Johns Hopkins) is associated with Wellstar Kennestone Hospital, and my surgeon is at Nortside Hosptial in Atlanta.

  • Kathleen26
    Kathleen26 Member Posts: 210
    edited March 2012

    Treated at MCV in Richmond VA.   I had neo-adjuvant DD ACx4, then 4 Taxol (DD).  Then MX, followed by 25 rads, plus 5 boost.   Now on anastrozole.

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited March 2012

    Hi there Posy,

    As some have already mentioned depending on the "makeup" of your cancer (ER/PR, HER2 status) that would set the stage for  most tx's.  I had bilateral mx, 4 DD A/C then 4 DD Taxol, 6 weeks rads, reconstruction, revisions.  I was treated at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore with my chemo in Bethesda, MD.

    Sharon 

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