uterine fibroids
Ugh. I have a fibroid. What can i do? I'm calling my ob-gyn for an appt today.
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I don't know your age, but if it isn't causing distress ignoring it can be a viable option. One ob-gyn said I should have a complete hystorectomy (sp?) another said ignore. I preferred the 2nd option, so that's what I did. I've had no negative repercussions from making that decision about 10 years ago.
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It isn't causing any distress. I'm 38 and haven't had kids, so a hysterectomy is not an option.
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The only pleasant side effect of taking Lupron as a treatment for my breast cancer...was....it got rid of my fibroids....
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lupron shuts down your ovaries, though, right? *sigh* this sucks.
What causes uterine fibroids?
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Hi sweetbean - I also had two large fibroids that came out of nowhere and a few months later, I started spontaneous heavy bleeding. They first recommended a ablation, which is a procedure where they go in and basically cauterize the fibroid with heat. Depending on where it is, you could have it removed (if it's on the inside of the uterus, I think it's like a D&C procedure. Or you could take Provera 10 days a month and enjoy no bleeding - I did this for a while but the other 20 days seemed much worse. Provera is strong you can't be on it all of the time. Also, they were worried about progesteron feeding any possible breast issues. I ended up having a hyster, but I was not going to have another child. I am sorry you are going through this, it is not fun. Sending you a hug!
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sweetbean - here is a blurb from Mayo:
Doctors don't know the cause of uterine fibroids, but research and clinical experience point to these factors:
- Genetic alterations. Many fibroids contain alterations in genes that are different from those in normal uterine muscle cells.
- Hormones. Estrogen and progesterone, two hormones that stimulate development of the uterine lining during each menstrual cycle in preparation for pregnancy, appear to promote the growth of fibroids. Fibroids contain more estrogen and progesterone receptors than do normal uterine muscle cells.
- Other chemicals. Substances that help the body maintain tissues, such as insulin-like growth factor, may affect fibroid growth.
I had too many to count, looked like I was pregnant and was bleeding constantly for months. I elected a hyst/ooph, but I was 45 and done having babies. Post-op path showed an ovarian mass that was undiagnosed, so I am glad I did it. I am sorry you have this to worry about too. There are a few ways to remove the fibroid and leave the uterus, but mine were there for a long time without bothering me - probably at least 10 years.
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Sweetbean, I was also dx with uterine fibroids in my late 30s. They were asymptomatic so I did nothing since, even though I had 4 children, I wanted more. I had 2 more kids and the fibroids shrank completely after menopause (they're usually estrogen-fed). Unless they're causing other symptoms, as Gardengumby says, doing nothing is an option.
Best of luck.
Leah
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I lived with my fibroids for years. When they got to be the size of a small Volkswagen, I started having horrendous, heavy bleeding for three weeks out of the month. Everyone suggested hysterectomy; I kept saying no. I think there were 7 or 8 different procedures to treat fibroids by then that didn't involve hysterectomy.
When I knew that I would not be having kids, I finally relented. All my friends said I would say two things: 1) I feel like a new woman, and 2) why did I wait so long? They were right. I'd already started perimenopause the previous year at 47, so the hot flashes were nothing new.
AND - I had an LAVH - a Laparoscopicaly-Assisted Vaginal Hysterectomy. No incisions except a few internal ones to cut ligaments, and three tiny scars that required bandaids: one in my belly-button, and two down lower on each side of my abdomen. Two days later I was running down the hall to answer the phone, and had to remind myself I'd just had surgery.
There are soooo many other options these days! If they start to bother you, ask your GYN to discuss them with you.
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Don't know if you are taking Tamoxifen, but since you are 38, ER+, and posted in the hormonal forum, I'm assuming that you are...............
I just had my first TVUS from my og/gyn (as part of the Tamox. monitoring.) The results were that my uterine lining was thin (yes!) but it also revealed that I had some uterine fibroids. Mine were small (all <1.3 cm) and I was told they were common and since they cause me no problem (heck, I didn't even know they were there) not to worry about them.
I have to wonder what part Tamoxifen has in this. Did I have them before starting Tamox. two years ago? I don't know. Will the weak estrogen effect make them grow? Maybe, but it has not had the effect of making the uterine lining thick so far, so it may not be much of a factor. I don't have my copy of the report yet, but have decided to find out how many I have in there and also if they are on the inside or outside. Since I rotate getting the TVUS with getting a uterine biopsy, I won't have another TVUS until 2 more years (unless I get symptoms.) If, at that time, my fibroids are quite a bit bigger, I will probably stop the Tamox. then (at the 4 year point.) If they are the same size or still not causing problems, I'll go the distance on the Tamox. I have heard that they do shrink naturally after menopause, so perhaps that is what mine will do once I'm through with Tamox..
sweetbean, I hope yours are not cause for concern and require nothing more than awareness and monitoring. I gave my whole story and thoughts because I just got the similar news this week. While I was a little "shocked" to be harboring fibroids, I'm not ready to lose my uterus over them yet.
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I also had an early diagnosis of fibroids when I was in my very early 30s. My doctor at the time said that I had lots of them but if they weren't causing problems to just let it be. I was more than happy to play ostrich so I ignored them.
Like others have said, it went through spells ranging from not being so bad to gushing like an oil well and spending a night sitting on the toilet (sorry if TMI). Eventually while I wasn't having very heavy bleeding, the fibroids were starting to resemble the alien baby and if one of my kids ran at me for a hug and hit my stomach I would practically scream.
So I figured something needed to be done. Only then did I discover that because I had waited and the fibroids had continued to grow my options had become EXTREMELY limited as in I could have a hysterectomy or I could have a hysterectomy and that was it. Same surgeon said "oh and while we are in there, we will yank your ovaries too as you won't be needing them." Oh and the only form of surgery he would consider was a major incision across all the abd muscles. Frankly I was devastated--I was only 44 and not at all ready for menopause.
I got a second opinion from a well respected female surgeon and while she did say that the hysterectomy was the only option, she was outraged at the idea of taking ovaries as well and she was able to do a teeny tiny incision at the bikini line so I didn't feel quite so ripped apart. Afterwards I was told my uterus was the size of a 5 month pregnancy (whoops) and that while there were lots of little ones, there was also one big one that looked like the alien baby.
I will say that I don't miss the period thing (as my middle calls it) and I do feel better though full recovery took longer than I expected.
Moral of the story: research all of the options for fibroid treatment NOW and talk to your surgeon and if you don't feel comfortable or s/he tells you to just ignore it, find another surgeon to talk things through with so you don't find yourself precluded from certain types of treatment.
good luck
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Ah, a subject dear to my heart. I think I may have had every procedure short of hysterectomy to deal with my troublesome fibroids. First, I agree, if they are causing no symptoms, leave them alone. Me? I bled like a stuck pig every month,floods and huge clots.
- tried myomectomy. Kind of like a c-section but they deliver ugly fibroids instead of a cute baby. New one grew back after about a year
-Lupron, yuck. No bleeding but instant menopause. Once I stopped, they came roaring back
- uterine artery embolization- done by interventional radiologist under conscious sedation. Pretty easy but only got 2 years before more grew back.
- endometrial ablation. No endometrium, no more bleeding. I was about 51 at this point and gently entered menopause
I had already had children when all of these procedures were done so please check with your gyn before considering any of them in order to preserve your fertility. Good luck.
Caryn -
Wow! I had not considered the "alien baby" possibility. I did have my first colonoscopy last year (beamed up to mothership & conducted by anal probing alien specialists while I was under the anesthesia.) Didn't even consider implantation. What's the gestation on that? Do I have an alien bun in the oven?
Thanks for the laugh, 3monstmom, and the good advice to deal with them before they get huge and you lose all your options.
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elimar you are welcome.....i figure I might have just waited anyway but it would have been nice to know what options I would be precluded from considering.
BTW, the option that I was most disappointed about was the uterine artery embolization. I thought that was going to be the perfect solution because like you I had heard that they shrink after menopause so I figured that would be perfect. Very disappointing to find out its too big for that procedure or for a vaginal hysterectomy or any of the other options. Also if you have more than one fibroid (think original poster only has one) there are some things that won't work for you.
sigh...always something isn't it?
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Ugh, my MRI showed fibroids. Interestingly enough, a pelvic ultrasound in the past never showed anything previously, and so I have to wonder if it's the tamoxifen. I also have an ovarian cyst, nothing I've ever had before.
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My fibroids (I had several) made my uterus the size of a four-month pregnancy.
Two GYN surgeons refused to do the LAVH, saying the uterus was too big for that.
Finally, the head of the OB/GYN department, a HUGE egomaniac, decided that he could do the surgery, no problem. (I think it was just because two of his colleagues had refused....)
What he did was resect the uterus using the laparoscopic tools, and bring it out in sections, vaginally. He also removed the ovaries at the same time.
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Nancy91355,
What was the recovery time for that surgery? I'm going to see my ob-gyn soon about this. I'm pretty concerned.
Also, has anyone tried lowering their Tamoxifen dose? I've heard that studies have been done that show that lower doses are just as effective. Do you think that would work?
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Hi
I had fibroids since my early 30s and my gynae just advised to monitor every 6 monthly since I started Tamoxifen in Mar this year. I am also concern whether Tamoxifen will fuel the growth of the fibroids...they are doing fine and not causing me problems in the past and has remain fairly constant in size even managed one pregnancy with my girl.
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Okay, I have two experiences with fibroids. I've had two myomectomies: 6 removed in '97, then 87 (yes, you read that right 87 removed) in 2009. Before I was dx with this dreadful hell, I was clear bout keeping my uterus to avoid vaginal prolapse, protect against heart disease etc. (women w/no uteruses b/c of hysterec. have a higher incidence of heart disease...our uteri secrete chems that protect us against lots of diseases. They don't just house fetuses).
Both were major surgeries but I recovered quickly. Fibroids seem to thrive on estrogen--go figure that one, I'm ER + and now breast cancer! It makes sense. I'm regretting that I didn't have my uterus removed now, since I've gotten chemo my risk of uterine cancer has increased!
I would think that tamoxifen would suppress estrogen, therefore keep fibroids from growing...not the opposite.
I've researched this issue exhaustively--twice-- so if anyone has more questions PM me.
Claire
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if you have uterine fibroids are you more likely to have estrogen receptor positive BC?
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