Any February 2012 radiation gals out there?

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  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2012

    Carrye...what's the reason for the goggles, etc?  I do breath holding (respiratory gating) but none of that equipment is used.  I watch a computer screen, too, but no special goggles are needed.  

  • NancyJill
    NancyJill Member Posts: 218
    edited February 2012

    Hi, I'm new on this thread. I started Rads on Feb. 6. I am one third done. I need 33 treatments, with the last few being boosts. I am not as tired as I was on chemo. I had Taxotere/Cytoxan for one round then had to switch to Navelbine since I was allergic to Taxotere. I also get Herceptin and have started Tamoxifen. I'm 46. I hate going to Rads but am trying to make the best of it. I am so self-conscious around the male Rads techs, and they had some procedures which made me feel less than comfortable. I told my Rads nurse how they could help female patients feel more comfortable, (not having male and female patients and family members in gowns in the same waiting area, etc.) and they've helped by letting me change in the treatment area, instead. I still hate it but know it is the right thing for me to be doing.

  • misha99
    misha99 Member Posts: 28
    edited February 2012

    Hi nancy jill!  I also started on the 6th and will have 33 to 38 treatments.  I also did cytoxan and taxotere and i am on tamoxifen too.  I am 48.  Lots of parallels.  At my center they are all ladies so far.  But i do see men waiting to get rads so i am sure they have to make compromises, too.  I saw my doc yesterday and at least i am not part of the population that has early skin breakdown, but he said i should start to pink up next week. i am trying to get exercise daily so that i keep ahead of the fatigue.  I was too sick during chemo to do much.  Good Luck and keep updating!  I hope we finish at the same time. 

  • misha99
    misha99 Member Posts: 28
    edited February 2012

    oops Nancy Jill-- I just realized i was SUPPOSED to start rads on the 6th (long story) but actually started on the 13th.  So you are a week ahead of me.  WISHFUL THINKING ON MY PART!

  • GrandmaV
    GrandmaV Member Posts: 1,267
    edited February 2012

    I had #7 today.  Uneventful as usual.  We also have a coed waiting room that you have to wait in gowns.  I've only had to wait once in there, but it was uncomfortable.  I'm starting to get a little pink, but not too bad. 

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2012

    I had #11 today.  Since I am having a bit of redness on my R side (non-radiation side), the MD personally checked my alignment today.  She says everything looks perfect.  They tried to explain my redness/dry crusty skin spots on the R side (that look just like my spots on  the left side...) as a reaction to the lotion.  I don't think so.  I've been using that lotion for months.  They also checked me for redness behind my left shoulder - said the rads is designed to come through my body at an angle, and come out my back, so it may very well get red there too.  That really freaks me out.  All this leaves me even uneasier.  Ugggh.  I can't wait for this to be OVER.  I dread going in there every day, even though they all are sooooooooooooo nice.  The thing I keep hanging onto is this is a top notch facility with a top notch doc, so I'm sure I'm getting top notch treatment.  I just don't want the treatment, and I feel like I'm dragging myself there every day.  I keep having to remind myself that this is necessary to prevent cancer recurrence.  Such a mental struggle for me. 

    I just hate everything to do with this disease and daily rads is a daily reminder.  Sorry, in a bad mood today!   Hope I don't bring you guys down, I need somewhere to express this! 

     Oh and we have separate male/female changing rooms and waiting areas.  

  • belleeast
    belleeast Member Posts: 653
    edited February 2012

    hi all,

    have to comment on the changing rooms, i don't have a changing room. i go into the room with the machine, take off my top,bra put my clothes on a chair. walk over to the table with it all hanging out,no gown,nothing nada!! thank god i have a female tech but still it's a very uncomfortable feeling. before starting radiation, i thought i had gotten used to showing my breasts to every dr,nurse etc. but radiation has raised it to a whole new level!!!!! lol

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2012

    50% of my techs are males.  Oh well.  I figure they see it ALL day and are pretty immune to seeing reconstructed boobs.  However, if I were a lumpectomy I suspect it would bother me more. 

  • Chicago1958
    Chicago1958 Member Posts: 90
    edited February 2012

    I am sorry to hear about your skin, Dancetrancer. Maybe the skin irritation is an outward expression of your general feeling of irritation, if that doesn't sound too touchy-feely. I hope it clears up. No need to apologize for venting. I know I vented yesterday!

    I had #10 today, so we're on almost the same schedule (and one day the machine wasn't working, so we started out the same). I don't have that breathing gating you describe--it does sound like you're getting cutting-edge care.

    Druanne has everyone beat on the radiation room, I think, with her warm blankets and array of treats! I change to a gown in a little closet room and have one of the same two techs each time, one male and one female, so I'm pretty comfortable with them. It's a small facility and very quiet.

    Hello new ladies! 

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2012

    Thanks Chicago!  I don't dismiss the mind body connection at all!  I feel better already after the venting!  I swear, I have been like a child going kicking and screaming all the way to rads, LOL.  

  • Chicago1958
    Chicago1958 Member Posts: 90
    edited February 2012

    Well, that's probably a healthy self-protective reaction (the "kicking and screaming"). I like my optometrist because she is patient with blinking and cringing when her machine comes too close, saying that your body naturally wants to protect itself, and we just have to override it for a little while...

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2012

    I had #16 today. RO said my redness is mild. I haven't felt uncomfortable or tired at all. I did just pick up some Aquafor to add to my Aloe Vera, because I know I will get redder in the coming weeks.

  • shron
    shron Member Posts: 3
    edited February 2012

    dancetrancer, sorry about your skin, i don't understand about the radiation going through you , wouldn't that mean that your lungs are getting zapped as well.

    Just finished #7 today, having a very itchy nip, asked the RO and he said that since my lump was right under the nipple and there is a large nerve there I will have some zings. So far no issues with my skin.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2012

    shron, thanks - the skin isn't super red or anything, but it's just the fact that some pinkness w/dry patches is seen on the very inner part of the R breast, when that is not supposed to be in the radiation field.  Granted, it is much less pink than what is on the L, but still, it makes me think there has to be at least some scatter going on.  From what I've read, it is impossible to avoid some scatter to the other side.  Perhaps my skin is just super sensitive so even a little bit of scatter rads is making it react.  I still trust my RO implicitly...but it was scary there for a moment thinking something had been done wrong.  Was very glad she double checked everything.  She's extremely thorough. 

    Lungs are always zapped in rads, unfortunately.  It is just a small sliver, but it is impossible to not hit them.  This is because the lungs/chest wall are shaped like an arc, but the rads beams are straight beams.  To hit the full breast tissue, a small sliver of lung has to be hit.  It can't be avoided.  Fortunately, though, it is minimized and should not cause symptoms for most.  (This was all explained to me by my very thorough RO!)  The part where it comes out of my back would be just behind my L shoulder (near my armpit).  The beam starts from the inner breast and comes through at an angle.  It doesn't go straight down through my chest to my back....eeeks!  That's what I first thought when the nurse told me I may have skin changes on my back.  I about had a panic attack at that moment, LOL!   My RO showed me how the beams are planned for my session (on a diagram on a piece of paper) so I could see exactly what tissue it is going through.  She is awesome, I must say. 

  • GirlPowerDebbie
    GirlPowerDebbie Member Posts: 213
    edited February 2012

    Hi newbies and everyone else ...

    Is anyone else just exhausted?  I had #19 today.  My skin is still perfectly fine, no changes -  but I am so frickin' tired! 

    Re the scarey sites, before I started radiation I read a lot of the message board with the title something like "so they said radiation was the easy part?" or something like that.  It was full of horror stories and I really started to panic, and I talked to my MO about it because she told me rads would be a cake walk after chemo (she was right).  She said yes, there are some people who really have issues with rads but most do not.  And I think those of us who went thru chemo hell agree that radiation is not as bad.

    It has been exactly 8 weeks since my last chemo.  My last eyebrow fell out today, I have no lower lashes and just a few upper lashes.  I thought I dodged the eyelash bullet when I finished chemo with them having just thinned a bit, but it seems they just take longer to fall out.  I am so bummed.  But I do have hair fuzz, and I had to shave my legs this week.  So I got that going for me. 

    Hang in there girls.  (Oh, and my stupid tulips are coming up!  February in Canton, OH - we have had a warm winter and my flower bulbs are very confused, I am surprised I have not seen robins.)

    Later! 

  • SuperFoob
    SuperFoob Member Posts: 505
    edited February 2012

    Howdy My Friends!

    I had my #15 today. No issues. I am tan witha tiny bit of irritation on my upper chest, below my collarbone but I think it has more to do with getting a hot flash and I got a bit clammy there and scratched it (I forgot about the rads and being gentle...oops).

    I also saw my PT today and she is switching to one day a week instead of two because I am doing good and have full range of movement in my arm (I have axillary cording).

    My techs are half and half. One of the guys is a real cutie though! It is weird just being "all out there." But I have had more people look and touch my boobs in the last year than I did my whole life so I am kinda "meh" to it now.

    Oh...I also picked up the CD of my PET/CT Scan from last Thursday. I havent heard from my ONC so I figure no news is good news because they HAVE to call you right away when it is bad. So, I printed out the Final Path Report and it says, " There is no current focus that can be determined to be metastatic disease or residual primary disease by both CT and PET criteria." I'll take it! There is a bunch of other goobledy-goop (mostly related to post-surgical reparative change) but since my ONC hasnt' called, I'll run with the good part!

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2012

    Geegster, that is AWESOME news!!!! 

  • beegee
    beegee Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2012

     Just had #12 today.  Starting to turn a pale pink.  No real bad fatigue--just tired of doing this every day!

    Lots of interesting posts from yesterday and today.  Dance, thanks for the explanation about the lung exposure.  My RO explained it to me a couple weeks ago, but I needed to hear it again.  I swear sometimes I feel a little tight in my chest, and I have this little cough.  I am soooo freaked out about the lung thing.

    We get little private changing rooms, stylish (kidding) gowns to wear.  Only a couple male techs.  No heated blankets, tootsie rolls or chocolates, unfortunately.  I would just be happy if the techs made a point of warming their hands before they start work. 

    Oh, and is it my imagination, or is my R breast (the one being treated) getting smaller?  Anyone notice this?  It already was smaller than the L because of the lumpectomy.  But now it seems the difference is more pronounced. 

  • Chicago1958
    Chicago1958 Member Posts: 90
    edited February 2012

    Good news, Geegster, congratulations!

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2012
    Beegee, it is possible that it is getting smaller. Frown  I've heard that you can experience either swelling or shrinkage depending on how your body reacts.  Sounds like we are on the exact same schedule - #12 is a bit later this morning for me.  I'm still pale pink, too, hope it stays that way as long as possible. 
  • NancyJill
    NancyJill Member Posts: 218
    edited February 2012

    Great news, geegster! I had my 6-month MRI yesterday-will find out results in a few more days. Today I will have treatment 13 of 33. Skin still okay. Still hate Rads.

  • Chicago1958
    Chicago1958 Member Posts: 90
    edited February 2012

    I've heard that too, Beegee, and it makes me stare at my "booblet" now and then--the lumpectomy already took more than they expected, and that took a little getting used to. (Tumor was not big--1.5 cm--but was irregular in shape and I'm small to begin with.) I'm looking into foam bra fillers.

    GirlPowerDebbie, I'm pretty tired too, although it was worse after weekend travel and the stupid endometrial biopsy. Any chance you can get a day of rest? (and our spring bulbs are coming up here in Chicago too, weird!)

    I decided to bag my usual pilates because it seemed to be more taxing than it was worth. Found out my local yoga center has someone who is trained in "breast cancer yoga," so I'm going on Friday. She said over the phone that yoga would be more "restorative" than pilates right now--sounds good to me. (Thank you to Relda for mentioning her yoga classes.)

    I'm glad to know that YorkieMom is feeling no fatigue and that Misha is keeping up with exercise. This forum kind of reminds me of a baby group I was in when my oldest son was born--reassuring to know that there's a lot of variation rather than just Good or Bad, if that makes sense...

  • misha99
    misha99 Member Posts: 28
    edited February 2012

    bee gee my ro said that at first i would be likely to have swelling in the radiated breast but that when all settles down i should expect some overall shrinkage.  I am prepared for this since i already have an overfilled implant in place so if they gambled correctly i will be somewhat symmetrical at the end. 

    Chicago -- thanks for the encouragement-- i feel so much better when I can exercise and i think the b c yoga sounds like a winner.  My cancer center is doing an exercise program in April and i am going to participate for sure.  I am hoping to continue to get in the pool, though.  I am hoping a layer of aquifor followed by a layer of vaseline will protect my skin from the spalshes when i water walk.  Some one needs to invent a waterproof vest for bc swimmers!!  As of tx 7 yesterday i can see the pink-- They may remove the bolus at some point if i keep getting redder but i think by friday i will be ready for 2 days off.  Maybe next week i will tan?   Take care everyone and take a walk if you can!!

  • Chicago1958
    Chicago1958 Member Posts: 90
    edited February 2012

    Hmm, water walking. That sounds restorative too! I'll look into it.

    Crossing my fingers for NancyJill's MRI results (another Chicago resident!).

    Also wanted to say: Dancetrancer, was it you who recommended tumeric? I found a recipe for lentil soup with tumeric and it tasted really good, which I choose to believe means that it's good for me!

    And have been wondering if Sherry's burn is better -- hope so.

    And a quick confession: I have never actually seen the radiation machine in action. I close my eyes from the minute I lie down until the tech says, "Okay, time to come back to earth!" I just try to visualize things healing the whole time I'm lying there... Wimpy, but it works for me!

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2012

    Yes, chicago, I'm one of the ones interested in turmeric.  Since you like the recipe, would you mind sharing it on this thread?   Healthy Soups 

  • el-jaye
    el-jaye Member Posts: 64
    edited February 2012

    Had my 12th treatment today - only 18 left to go!  My breast feels sunburned and is a bit pink,  I am slathering myself with aloe vera jel and eucerin lotion.  Nurse looked at it this morning and felt it was ok, no blistering, no bumps just a bit pink.

    I kinda wish I was experiencing the shrinkage - cause the inflammation that I have is not very comfortable.  But I am told that once we finish rads it will go away.  I am taking Re-levx for my arthritic fingers and that is a pretty good anti inflammatory.  I just started  taking it Monday after my RO approved it and am already seeing improvement in my fingers.  Hoping it will help the old boob too!

    Today I am really feeling the fatique.  Sitting at work and wishing I could curl up somewhere and sleep for a bit.  I may have to book off a few days just to do that!  

    I am finding the daily trips to the cancer centre to be very tedious!  I go every moring kicking and screaming, fight for a parking spot, etc etc.  Intellectually, I know that this treatment is a good thing, but damn it all I am tired of the poking, prodding and zapping.  Since last August it seems that my weeks revolve around appointments, scans, tests, needles etc.  I am ready to be done!  

    Sorry to be such a whiner, thanks for being a safe place to vent and whine.  I am pretty sure my family is tired of me being tired!

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2012

    El-jaye, whine all you want - it helps and lords knows I've done my fair share, LOL!  

    My 12th tx went well today - in and out, no waiting, no issues - yay!  

  • Relda
    Relda Member Posts: 127
    edited February 2012

    Hello ladies!

    Well, I am done.  Had my last tx on Monday.  It went very well, no skin issues at all (sooo much better than last time when I battled reeeeeally bad blisters) and besides some fatigue, smooth sailing. The three weeks went by faster than I had imagined.

    Saw my MO yesterday and I will be starting chemo (TCH, 6 rounds, 1 every 3 weeks) two weeks from yesterday.  Went and got a cute shorter hairdo this morning in preparation for  my hair going bye bye.  I like it, its short and sassy, pretty much what it will be a year from now lol.  I want to thank all of you for joining me on this ride and I hope it all continues to go as well for all of you.  I'll be checking back to see how all of you are doing, but I'll be hanging out over at the TCH thread more often than not Wink

    Hugs to all of you!!  {{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}}

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited February 2012

    geegstar-that is great news!!!! Love your picture! I have a q for you, what brand calendula cream do you use? The one I got is only 2% and I went through a 10$ tube in one week! Is yours an ointment ore cream? I do want to stay with a cream. I have looked online  but have only found it mixed with other stuff or 2% or it doesn't say. Thanks in advance for any help!

  • sherrybaby
    sherrybaby Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2012

    Hello ladies! Geegster...great news about your results!!

    I had #15 today. My burn is still there, but the RO gave me some hydrocortisone cream for it and it is helping with the pain/itching. He said the silvadene the tech recommended was more for burns that had blisters. Thankfully mine is not quite that bad. I have the little bumps too and the spot under my arm is so red it almost looks purple. The end of my MX scar is REALLY tender. Is anyone else getting supraclavicular rads? The other part of me that is really burned is that treatment area and of course my seatbelt manages to hit me right on it. I am also really feeling the fatigue. I am usually in bed by 9 and it keeps getting harder and harder to get out of bed in the morning. 

    Okay, I am done whining for today.  I hope everyone has a good night. Only 2 more days of getting zapped this week.

    Sherry 

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