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  • Deborah2012
    Deborah2012 Member Posts: 234
    edited February 2012

    Hello All,

    Glad to hear from farmerlucydaisy. Welcome back.

    Milk of Magnesia took care of 5 days of no BM (PS recommended).Yay!

    The "hard as a rock"  is the TE not the Alloderm sling

    Saw my TE right boob without a nipple today.  My cancer free right breast is BEAUTIFUL!  I've got a significant bump (from previous space of elective implant where TE is now "parked".  The scar is covered with a semi transparent tape.  It isn't bad or grotesque.  My scar is diagonal (not the typical horizonta)l due to 4 o'clock and 11 o'clock IDC and DCIS respectively.

    Love my surgical drain belt that was recommended by another BC survivor on this thread! Beats that lousy safety pin and I only have two drains. Definitely worth the $20.  It can hold up to 4 drains and minds the tubes. It takes a week to arrive by mail however.  Plan ahead if interested.

     PS took an alcohol wipe and "stripped the drain tubes.  Unbeleiveable!  The tube became flat as linguinie when he did it.  We don't think we'd be capable of doing that.  Might be best left to a professional??? Unsure.Of note:  a big yucky inch long "T" shaped clot got stripped into thecollection bulb.  Amazingly enough, it got ejected with no problem when I dumped the bulb and squeezed out the blood/fluid as usual. It did NOT clog the exit valve.

    PS said I didn't need to restrict my arm motion (as in over my head) if it didn't bother me.  Keep moving it if I feel comfortable- just don't do any lifting etc.  that could lead to the lymphadema.  Caveat- this may be case specific and where my scars/incisions are located.

    PS said if desired, I could still use that breathing inhaler device that expands one's lungs if I wanted to.  I said it makes me feel like my chest muscles and lungs don't atrophy.  The device is a two chambered plastic dealie with a blow tube (no electrical anything).  They give it to you in hospitals so fluid doesn't collect in your lungs psot surgeries- not just MX and BMXs.  I took mine home.  It makes me take deep breaths. I wipe it with alcohol wipes.  May or may not be a good idea for others.  

    PS said the little "electrical" slightly painful zings I'm occassionally experiencing in my breast are the result of nerves being severed.  No worries.  If it were to become an issue there are things they can do.  Truly, it's not a problem.  Just surprising.

    I see BS tomorrow.  Doubt surgical pathology is back yet.  I'll ask why three nodes were taken. 

    Very happy today,  I will crash and burn if they find micro-mets in any of the three nodes. 

    I try to share details because I found those really helpful when I read other posts as I had no idea what to expect.  Sorry for the lengthy posts.  I'm hoping it is useful to another woman who is inquisitive.

    Good luck to elliegk, dragonfly, and Rose_d tomorrow.  

    Nel, how are you?  You started this thread.  It must seem like an eternity until Feb. 16th. Thinking of you.

    Deborah2012

  • Layla2525
    Layla2525 Member Posts: 827
    edited February 2012
    I am having bmx on Feb 13th even tho bc only in right breast,dont wanna risk a comeback in left breast so gonna go to the Barbie factory aka hospital and get new parts. Did anyone move their things around at home so everything was on a low shelf? It never even occured to me until I told my boss I was gonna take the thur & fri off b4 my surg. Boss says oh yeah you need to rearrange your house! Then I look in the closet and find I would have to lift my arms up level with my chin to get my stuff off the rod where the clothes hang. I think a basketball player used to live here cause I cant even use the top shelves in the kitchen..I am average height not short but not 6 ft tall..so maybe I will rearrange...figured I'd just be wearing some loose shirts the first few days but I've seen post where someone is showering after 3 days??But you cant get the stitches or glued parts wet??? I gotta call the PS 2moro and see if I need to bring a special bra,she didnt say anything and nobody knows at the hospital where I did pre op 2day. "Why'd u have to go and make it all so complicated"? from Avril Lavigne's album.
  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 1,886
    edited February 2012

    Lydia, I too have enough paid time off at work to almost cover the entire time of waiting for short-term to kick in.  We've adjusted the dates the pto is used to cover the insurance coverage costs so i won't have to write a check to keep them going.

  • turnberry
    turnberry Member Posts: 42
    edited February 2012

    Hope this finds everyone doing well!  Just got home from my first post op appts with BS and PS.(one week out)  They were so pleased with the results even at this point, as am I.  I was actually able to get my drains out, yeah!!  It was quite an experience and because I have such a weak stomach for blood, drains, etc - I almost past out.  Not really from pain but the movement and tugging on my body puts me into hyper-venitlation.  Weird, but once it past I was fine and I'm already feeling some freedom not having them on me.  They said the holes where the drains feed into the body will close up within the next day or two and to hold off on a shower now for 24 hrs.  They scheduled my first expansion visit for Wed. next week.  I can't tell you the relief that comes with being on the other side of all of this.  Curious, I will not have to go through rads or chemo - so I asked about what kind of follow up that I'll need once I'm through the reconstruction process.  The BS told me that I would have to follow up once per year with the Breast Care Doctor for physical exam only.  Of course, that makes me very happy since I have been going in every 6 mons for the last five years for mammo, u/s and mri every time they thought I needed it.  I am interested to hear if anyone else has asked this question yet??  BTW - had BMX with TE's, I'm sure that might be a game changer.  Barbiecorn, if you're reading this - let me know how your post op goes.  You can IM me too!!

  • farmerlucy
    farmerlucy Member Posts: 3,985
    edited February 2012

    Turnberry - SO happy for you!  Yay the 6 mo screenings are history! I asked my PS about screenings with the silicon implants and she said the manufacturer suggests an MRI after three years then every two years, however the PS said she that hasn't had any problems with her patients, that the new implants are really sturdy, and she is not recommending the MRI due to cost! Woo hoo!

  • barbiecorn
    barbiecorn Member Posts: 437
    edited February 2012

    I went for my first post-op appt. with my BS today.  Nothing in lymph nodes...  Has anyone been told yet that they need treatments after their surgery?

  • barbiecorn
    barbiecorn Member Posts: 437
    edited February 2012

    I went to my BS today for my first post-op - had no lymph nodes removed during BMX - no lymph node involvement - sentinel node benign - has anyone gone for their first post op?  And if so, were you told you may need treatment afterwards or is that just a given???

  • Deborah2012
    Deborah2012 Member Posts: 234
    edited February 2012

    Turnberry, Congratulations!  That's exciting news! I know just how you feel.

    I too have good news.  I just got back from my BS appt. today.  My final Pathology report post MX came back.  All three lymphs are clear! No evidence of any cancer anywhere!  It would be highly unlikely that I will need radiation or chemo as a preventative measure. Prevention treatment (hormone blockers?) will be discussed with my oncologist next week.  I am so relieved! :)

    I, as you am a bit squeamish with the drain removal. Hopefully, mine will be removed next week. I know they don't give you a local.The thought of the thing unwinding from inside my body and the tugging/pressure until it passes through the exit opening is kind of unnerving.

    We are very fortunate, Turnberry.  To not have to face chemo or radiation is huge!  I hope elliegk, dragonfly, and Rose_d had successful surgeries today. Still haven't heard from Dixiemine30, Pelicangirl, or Sadie524.  Keeping good thoughts for them.

    Deborah2012

  • Lydia1961
    Lydia1961 Member Posts: 3
    edited February 2012

    Hi again. I keep finding good tips when reading here. Thanks girls and thanks, Deborah2012 for the tip on home care. I will be staying with my folks for a bit and have friends lined up to help so I'm only worried about being grumpy with anyone being helpful. haha.

    TJP1071, glad I'm not the only one trying to find a silver lining even if its to do with insurance.

    farmerlucydaisy, I just picked up my 3 prescriptions today and that was odd for me just to get a prescription but really odd when the pharmacist had to confirm who I was and that I was female - she said the insurance company has me as male. Glad she didn't have me prove it. My work HR teased me about it but was an easy fix. I don't care how they list me so long as my insurance works.

     So I think I'm all set for my surgery next week. Tomorrow I start using Bactroban in my nose to hopefully keep me from getting sick now or at the hospital. 

    Glad to see so many positive posts both before and after surgery. Thank you!  I don't see anyone scheduled for the 14th. Was hoping for a Valentine buddy. Take care everyone.

  • Deborah2012
    Deborah2012 Member Posts: 234
    edited February 2012

    Barbiecorn,

    Wow! Congrats on negative nodes.  Since you had none removed, does that mean you are not at risk for lymphedema? I've ordered my med alert bracelet to stay away from right arm with blood pressure, blood samples, or anything going forward. BS was glad I had done so. I had one second level lymph removed as my body's lymph drainage pattern went to two primary lymps (sentinel and one other) and a second level lymph as well.  BS took all three. All three negative in both operating preliminary tests and final pathology tests, too. 

    I will try to update my DX footnote on my signature since I've gotten the final pathology report back.  I can't figure out how to add DCIS to the IDC.  The multi-focal is the whole reason for the MX and should be on the DX. Also my tumor turned out to be more aggressive (grade 3) on final path report.  The DCIS remained stage 1. Glad I had my MX and had good margins!

    Had an interesting discussion with my BS.  Mammo, MRI, ultrasound, and final surgical removal reports all had slightly different sizes of the tumor (and NOT that it had enlarged- as in grew larger waiting for the MX). BS said that small changes in size is something even the tumor boards discuss.  Sometimes it's the nature of the modality (MRI, Mammo, Ultra, MX) used to test the tumor, other times it's the tumor has been altered by biopsies, etc.

    Deborah2012

  • Alicethecat
    Alicethecat Member Posts: 535
    edited February 2012

    Hi Deborah and ladies

    Thank you for thinking of me!

    I had a mastectomy on my left breast on 7 February 2012 and...I'm feeling great!

    Was given two paracetamol before the op and two yellow pills to stop nausea. They worked! I also had lignocaine, I think.

    In fact, the surgery took just an hour an a half and I was out of the recovery room 45 minutes later. I came out with just one drain.

    Could not believe how well I felt. Walked, talked and ate that evening and did not need pain killers or any other type of medication.

    The next day I felt fine in the morning and went to the cafe in the hospital with a friend who came to visit for two hours.

    Then I felt a bit woozy and went to bed at 2pm and dozed on and off until 3am this morning.Took two paracetamol in the morning and two in the evening but that was all. 

    Wanted to come out yesterday but the surgeon persuaded me to stay in for an extra night as I had bled a little more than he expected. Stopped bleeding today, came home, had visitors and am feeling as right as rain!

    This all happened in an NHS hospital in the UK and all was well.

    Ladies, I know everyone is different and may have different medical conditions, but if you are in good health and in good hands, having a mastectomy is a lot less frightening than you may think. After all, the breast is composed of mainly fat and a bit of muscle.The worst thing was waiting for it to take place.

    I woke up happy with my decision and do not feel any less of a woman.

    In fact, I feel more of a woman than ever because of my badge of courage!

    I wish you love, luck and hope.

    Alice the Cat

  • Nel138281
    Nel138281 Member Posts: 2,124
    edited February 2012

    Hi All,

    So glad to hear how well everyone is doing, given our circumstances!  Just had  my preops this AM, surgery a week from today.  The closer I get to the date,the faster I want the day to come and go.  You all give me so much strength.  Continue to be well

    Nel

  • barbiecorn
    barbiecorn Member Posts: 437
    edited February 2012

    You will do fine...the waiting is the worse part...can't wait for my drains to come out but had one taken out yesterday...it is not at all painful to have the drain removed....don't look when they are doing it...I still cannot understand why my BS wants me to have chemo she said maybe for a year...I had no nodes at all involved...my HER-2 was a lower ratio but my Estrogen R was 97% - I don't understand why I cannot take a pill to block the estrogen...I am anxious to go to the oncologist to discuss with her - my BS said I was cancer free (I know that is a wrong to say) but I was just using her words - the cancer removed was 2.2 cm.  She said if it were under 2 cm. I would not need any treatment....but a year of chemo???????? My husband heard her say it too?????

  • wildrumara
    wildrumara Member Posts: 450
    edited February 2012

    Barbie - If you are ER/PR+, with no node involvement, you should be having an oncotype test performed on your tumor to tell whether chemotherapy would benefit you.  In the past, anyone who had a tumor over 2 cm automatically got chemo, but nowadays, the oncotype is the gold standard for determining chemotherapy treatment......might want to discuss that with your oncologist. 

  • Dixiemine30
    Dixiemine30 Member Posts: 163
    edited February 2012

    Hello my beautiful Pink Sisters!!!  I made it!!!

    BMX on February 2 (last Thursday).  Went home on Friday....have no real memory of Friday afternoon or Saturday, really good drugs :-)  Sunday was the worst day, general feeling bad, tired of the drains, etc.  Today is the first day I've really felt like myself....I'm on minimal pain meds.  I haven't had any real "pain"...just pressure and discomfort.  Most pressure is due to TE being filled to 30%.  I got my pathology report on the removed tissue, It was a curative procedure.....WOOT!!

    Today is the first day my guard dog (husband) would let me on the computer....he wants me to rest and heal....haha.  Obviously he doesn't understand just how healing you girls are to me.

    Love & Hugs  ~Karen

  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 1,886
    edited February 2012

    Had the dye injections today for the SNB tomorrow.  Strangely, they had to change the angle of view to see the node path better.  Until they did that, was told it wasn't moving much for mapping.  SN was found though.

    I would say that a biopsy hurts worse but this isn't a walk in the park either.  Did doze off during the imaging process at some point too.  LOL

    5am report time tomorrow morning.

  • LLinAZ
    LLinAZ Member Posts: 20
    edited February 2012

    Hi everyone. Thank you to those that have posted their status after surgery, it is helping me to feel hopeful for my bmx, scheduled for 2/23.



    Has anyone gone to any type of breast cancer support group? It is outside of my comfort zone but I have had several people suggest it.



    My bs told me that I need o have sentinel node mapping. I could have sworn she said I wouldn't have to do that, but I guess I was wrong. :( Does anyone have feedback on how the procedure? I am freaking out a bit because the prep for my lumpectomy (insertion of wires) was so brutal and I keep picturing something like that.

  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 1,886
    edited February 2012

    Still awake.  Slept about two hours but don't want to not wake up on time for being there so very early.

  • wildrumara
    wildrumara Member Posts: 450
    edited February 2012

    Galsal -  Thinking of you right now and praying that all goes well with your surgery today!! 

    LLinAZ - I have thought about going to a support meeting, but never did.  From what I heard, there aren't a lot of "younger" women that attend,  probably because those of us in our 40s are busy running our kids around in the evening and don't have time to attend.  Anyway,  I'm not sure what your age is, but that is what I've heard from other friends??  I could really use a support group right now though.  Glad to have this forum to ask questions and sound off!!  

  • mary625
    mary625 Member Posts: 1,056
    edited February 2012

    Had my BMX, no TEs, one AND, on Monday 2/6. I was able to go on Tylenol only yesterday. The pain has been more in my armpits, inside of arms and down the side of my torso like really, really bad sore muscles. Despite the Colace, I have had terrible constipation. I am going into the surgeon today because there is a blood clot in one of my drains that may be stopping the flow a bit. I also have some bruising on the prophylactic side and will have that looked at as well.

  • cajmi
    cajmi Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2012

    Hi Ladies,

    Thinking of you all and praying for you too!!! 

    I just want to reiterate to those who have yet to have surgery, I have been fortunate that I've had minimal pain and it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be!!!  I had skin sparing BMX with pedicle tram reconstruct on FEB1.

    The most uncomfortable thing was getting in and out of bed, otherwise pain was maybe a 1 when lying still.  I also had the ON-Q pain pump which is like a local novacaine, to the site which lasted about 2 days.

    I left the hospital after 3 days, and after 5 days I was able to get up very gingerly by myself.  Now a week and a half later, I can do most everything for myself except lifting and reaching.  My back does begin to hurt telling me when I've done enough, but most of you shouldn't have that problem since you won't be losing muscle with reconstruct.

    Lots of details, hope it is of help.  Before my surgery, I was scouring the site looking for info, so I wanted to share if it helped.  As I think I said before, for anyone having ABD reconstruct, the POWER recliner is the best thing ever!!!

    LLinAZ,

    A word about support groups.  I haven't used any with this Diagnosis, but I had a child with a rare genetic disability and found great comfort, sharing, help and lasting friendships from that support group!!  This forum of course is fantastic, but sometimes it is nice to meet with people face to face.  Support groups are not for all, but what I found was that different people get different things from them.  Sometimes helping someone else with an idea, thought, kind word does more for us than we can imagine.  That said sometimes we click with groups and sometimes we don't.  I would always give it a try and see how it goes.  I met one of my dearest friends from the aforementioned group!!!

    It sounds like those of us who have gone through surgery thus far have faired quite well!!!  Let's keep it going:>

    I wanted to thank all of you for the kinds words and encouragement you have given me, understanding when others cannot!!

    Thank you and God Bless You,

    Carolyn    

  • Layla2525
    Layla2525 Member Posts: 827
    edited February 2012

    Yep,fiance wanted me to go to a support group. Only one I could find to fit into my schedule was for all cancers...they scared me to death. Some guys there who were castrated for advanced prostate cancer. a colon rectal guy (mental note when this is over get colonoscopy dont wanna go thru this hell only to get that) then some ladies who had bc and elected not to get recon. They were real pieces of work! They said" oh they take off your boobs,then you get sick and lose your hair,oh yeah and my husband got a girlfriend and we got divorced so thats about it..anything else you wanna know about breast cancer?" I gave my fiance the lets get the hell outta here look. Thank goodness I have you ladies to get some perspective or I might have come back that little pep talk and called the suicide prevention hotline.

  • Deborah2012
    Deborah2012 Member Posts: 234
    edited February 2012

    Good morning ladies,

    Foob Burrito Recipe:

    Okay.  Anyone else about to rip their TE out of their bodies? 

    The blasted thing feels like a cardboard angular box shoved underneath your thin skin with edges rubbing at the worst places i.e. against the bottom (elastic) portion of your compression sports bra and/or your sports bra arm hole (rubbing against your lymph node removal area). 

    We have solved the rubbing problem here!  I call it the "foob burrito". 

    DH's Recipe for "foob burrito": 

    Ingredients: 1/4" small sized (pencil eraser size) bubble wrap used for mailing packages.

    2" x 2" gauze pads fully opened up (or equivalent gauze that can be opened up)

    alcohol wipes

    surgical gloves

    Wash hands. Put on surgical gloves. Cut an index card size piece of the small/tiny bubble wrap paper. Fully open up a 2' x 2' piece of gauze pad (so it too is also about the size of an index card fully opened). Wipe clean the bubble wrap with an alcohol pad. Cover the bubble wrap rectangle with the opened gauze blanket or "tortilla". Fold it in half lengthwise. Next, we just placed it under the elastic part of the sports bra (Fruit of the Loom, front opening  @ Wal Mart $8.44) . Did a second one for the armpit edge of the bra. 

    I no longer have the edges of the garment cutting into my ribs, rubbing against the bottom of my TE, nor my tender lymph area that has stitches under my arm.  This works with the compression "sports bra" I woke up from MX wearing in the hospital, too.  I wash and trade the bras out because I can't shower yet and hate have a stinky thing on me.

    I believe this would be okay with my PS because when I saw him for my first post-op and complained where their bra was rubbing me, he said I could stuff as much gauze padding under those contact edges (armhole and bottom of bra).   The flat gauze pieces he tucked in the bra promptly fell out.  BTW, he was pleased I had the second front closure Fruit of Loom sports bra ready too.

    The "foob burrito" will NOT help with any of your tight pain that is inherent with the TE.  It will however, get rid of the points of contact of the garment with tender areas of your body from the surgery or even areas with little or no fat (i.e. the top rib) that may come into contact with the TE and/or bra. Those points of contact hurt me more than the TE!  You may want to check with your own PS before doing anything.  Again, I stress that I only substituted gauze covered bubble wrap for gauze padding at contact points that were rubbing. I am not messing around with the TE or trying to move it in any manner.

    BTW, irritated that I am unable to just have extra strength Tylenol for the pain when I go to sleep  at night a week post surgery.  I don't need the pain pill during the day, but when I wake up to urinate after having not moved in my sleep for hours at night time, the Tylenol isn't cutting it for me. OUCH! 

    Mary625: Milk of Magnesia worked like a charm for me. I too have been on stool softeners.  Zero production with them.  I supplement them with Milk of Magnesi. Cherry flavor- works great!

    Deborah2012

  • farmerlucy
    farmerlucy Member Posts: 3,985
    edited February 2012

    Thanks everyone for the helpful information. It is wierd the things you read about regarding what supplements to take and what not take before surgery. My PS said to take a multivitamin and vitamin C, and stop all herbs including my St John's Wort (eek, I should be a real mess post-op  re: depression). I had a pre-op blood test and I was slightly anemic, so I'm loading up on the iron now, as well. The anxiety is building but I am relying heavily on my treadmill to help get the endorphins flowing and to help push the scary thoughts out of my brain.

  • Layla2525
    Layla2525 Member Posts: 827
    edited February 2012

    I too can not imagine going into surgery and waking up with the TE on Monday, I am so scared I might have to take a bath...I read in this mths Prevention where it helps you relax...hmmm..any bath ladies out there? I have always been a shower person except at Granny's casa,no indoor plumbing til my mom and the other daughters in laws insisted. Then it was a bath,sitting in the dirty water after picking veggies in the garden. So gotta save this post in case I need the foob burrito...I did some stick on sanitary pads(way back in closet in plastic pkg since menopause) to stop the rubbing after the biopsies cause i always wear these padded underwires..the PS says dont worry I can fill your TE and you'll be the same size when you go home from surg!!Oh thx a lot now I am in the tiny titty club? Should I throw away all the bras? The PS says they bind you up after surg,just get some walmart sports bras after they unbandage. Does that work? Will I have 2 square shaped boobs with the TE? I am worried the TE they showed me in the office looked like little footballs covered in little plastic nubs all over and they are planning to put that inside me? I feel like the candy on the MM commercial that was gonna have a pretzel put in.

  • Layla2525
    Layla2525 Member Posts: 827
    edited February 2012

    Yep LLin and I wanna know about the sentinel biopsy. My surg says its a shot in the skin of the areola. Then you wait,after an hour they hold a gadget over you to see where the dye went. Is that really all there is to it?

  • Alicethecat
    Alicethecat Member Posts: 535
    edited February 2012

    Hi LLinAnz

    Don't worry about the sentinel node biopsy.

    All that happens is a radiologist injects blue dye into the aereola or another part of the breast, a screen comes over - close your eyes if you get claustophobia - and watches where the dye goes on a screen.

    As long as you don't look at the needle going in, you will be fine.

    Just remember, a breast is nearly all fat!

    Best wishes

    Alice the Cat

  • farmerlucy
    farmerlucy Member Posts: 3,985
    edited February 2012

    Layla-You crack me up re: square boobs and pretzel M & M's. I'll be praying for you on Monday. I KNOW you are going to do great!

  • turnberry
    turnberry Member Posts: 42
    edited February 2012

    Okay, so I have both TE's in and I do have areas of it that feel very synthetic and I can certainly feel the edges of them especially the area closest to the armpit and underneath the foob.  The foobs are not square but I remember looking at them in the nurses office and thinking the same thing.  I have to say that most of my discomfort is the pressure sensation on the chest.  It is good to remember to take deep breaths.  The other problem I experience is getting sore (in the back area too) and tight from sitting in the same position too long or trying to get up out of the recliner after sleeping.  Sooo, is it better to let the body rest or to get up and keep moving so you don't tighten up??  I am a day and a half without my Oxycodone, which was really rough yesterday but seemed to get better today.  Just taking Tylenol Arthitis now - dont' know why the arthritis but seemed that it was helping alot of people out there. 

  • barbiecorn
    barbiecorn Member Posts: 437
    edited February 2012

    Sentinel biopsy not a problem....really not  painful at all...don't worry about that....I too take Arthritis Strength Tylenol every evening and it really helps.  For all who have had surgery, big hugs to you and to all who have not had surgery yet, don't worry, it will be over soon and you will be feeling so relieved.  The anticipation is much worse than the actual surgery.  You will all do fine.....(((((Hugs to you)))

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