Komen and Planned Parenthood

Karen Handel Resigns

http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/02/07/karen-handel-resigns-from-komen-for-the-cure/

edited to fix linky

Agree .. In spite of her denials, she brought politics into this which is the entire problem!

What happened with Komen reminds me of the BP oil spill. I still will go out of my way to avoid filling up at their gas stations. Although I usually vote Democratic, I'm really more like an elephant than a donkey. I NEVER forget!

Komen's public policy became political the minute they gave their first dollar to Planned Parenthood, in my opinion.

Dear Shokk,

You know by now how much I respect you.  And yes the numbers have been crunched, as they always are. Disagreements have been as expected with alternative positons from those among us who are brave enough to take a clear stand.  In my view, we should take the politics out of this one, and friggin send our small pittances to those organizations which are demonstrably committed to finding a cure for cancer.  The other issues seem to me more appropriate for the voting booth.   

TheLorax 

hillck -

Nope, and he isn't funded or backed by Komen or any other non-profit that I'm aware of.

So, I guess it boils down to this is all about the referral for a mammogram?

OK, well, I guess if we are down to the fact that if Komen cut funding to PP, PP would cut out referrals for mammograms.  By all means, if PP isn't willing to invest in the health of a woman enough to make a referral for a mammogram, somebody needs to step in and intervene.

Good article ... thanks AnneW.  Covers all the 'stuff' that has been going on with Komen very nicely.

Faye33 ... I think you are forgetting all about the 'paying' for that mammogram part of it.  PP does not physically do the mammogram but they provide vouchers to pay for it or have arrangements to make it affordable. 

Those of us with good health insurance sometimes forget that not everybody can just show an insurance card and walk right in and get whatever we need.  I've been in line for check-in at my local Catholic hospital and heard them turn people away ... no pay upfront, no test ... it happens. 

Thank you, Ann.  I had not seen that piece.  Very enlightening.

I understand your concerns about poor women getting these services but I cannot in good conscience ever support PP or any organization that I know donates to PP. I understand that you ladies do not agree with me.

My husband and I will continue to support organizations that help poor women to get cancer screening and health care but don't provide birth control or abortions. We have tried to live our belief by supporting groups that help young women  finding  themselves pregnant and needing financial and emotional support. We have also adopted children, including our youngest son who is special needs. I am so grateful for the gift of life that their birthmothers gave them....these children have been a joy and blessing in our lives. I am thankful they exist.

I wish good health for all of you ladies and the peace that only our dear Lord can give.

A blessed day to all....=)

Sorry, but my conscience won't allow me to do that either. My faith teaches chastity, self-control, and an acceptance of God's will for our lives as the way to eliminate the "need" for both birth control and abortion.

               LovesChristmas wrote: " . . . but I cannot in good conscience ever support PP or any organization that I know donates to PP."

            No one ever asked or expects anyone else to support any institution or organization which does not suit their own subjective point of view or meet their personal charitable intentions.

            The speech and comments which demean organizations to which others contribute, according to their own conscience, with demonstrable slanders and falsehoods just throw up more blockades and injure women in need of the very medical health services which find breast cancer early. 

And my beliefs have been demeaned on here by others.

            That's what planning for parenthood means to the vast majority of people of a wide variety of faiths who believe that planning for parenthood is important to them and to their children: procurement of effective means of birth control consistent with whatever their private interests may be is legal all over the US. 

             What any one chooses to do with their own body is their own business and how others plan their families -- or don't plan their families as the case may be -- is no one else's business either.  No reason for anyone to be in anyone else's bedroom or have any interest in what goes on in anyone else's bedroom. 

             Access to family planning, however people choose to go about it, has nothing at all to do with breast health concerns for women.  Never did.  Never will.  Those women need the same surveillance and access to good health care all here, as breast cancer patients already in a place I hope we would never wish on anyone else, would want to have for ourselves or our daughters or our sisters or our mothers. 

             One is either an advocate for the same result for all women however any particular woman (or group of women) obtains good health care for herself and her family as one obtains it for oneself.  Or one isn't. 

             That's a moral and ethical position.  There's no grey in that equation.  It is all black or all white. 

If you don't think that what PP does is wrong, then what I say shouldn't be demeaning to PP to you; it shouldn't seem slanderous. I understand that you don't have a problem with what they do.  I believe that unborn children are just as alive and human as any child that is born and I am appalled that it is legal for these unborn children to be murdered. I believe that it is just as wrong to murder them as it is to murder someone who is born. That is why prolifers want abortion to be illegal again.That is why we fight to defund PP and other groups that do abortions. That is why we fight to change the law. 

I, of course, want women to have screening for breast cancer and I would NEVER wish cancer on anyone else. You want to screen women in one place and I work to have women screened in places where the entire emphasis is on preserving life; not preserving some people's lives and ending others'. I understand that you don't believe that and I understand that you have the right to give to whoever you want and that other people are free to go where they want.