Alone - recent double mastectomy
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Last night I went to my first BC support group. It was interesting and it felt good to connect to other women.
I am sleeping so well now that I take 1 little Ativan before bed. Last night I fell asleep with the tv on!
Someone (Joyce) asked about my hubby. He was only 51 and a very healthy man. A week before he had a complete physical which included an EKG which was fine. Anyway, he was on the phone saying goodnight to our grandsons. He said goodnight to one and asked to speak to his little brother when he died while waiting. He went into VT. I performed CPR for 1/2 hour before the ambulance finally showed up.
Since then my life has disolved. I lost him, my daughter and grandsons, then BC. What more can I take? I guess God feels I am able to take it all. He sure brought it on....
Thank you to everyone for your generosity of time to respond to me and reach out. I wish you were all here with me.
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TAG- I am glad you made it to the support group? Dare I guess you found some help? I am also glad you are sleeping better- That makes a big difference. So what if you needed a little help- getting sleep in important enough to do that! I hope your daughter sees the wonderful person whe and your grandchildren are missing and comes around. I will continue to pray for you, You continue to look for help - It will come. Please take care.
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Im so glad you went. I too cannot expain God's actions, but to look at the friend I told you of, I am convinced He does have a plan for us.
I'm so glad we are making friends right here.
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Good morning!
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Theyregone, you are in the county, then I understand how isolated you feel. =( I am in southern maine but we are literally worlds away. At least 6 hours by car. I wish you could see my BS in Portland. She's amazing, and her staff would take good care of you. Plus we barely hve any snow down here.
I truly believe that in the county, if people knew you were suffering, there would be many to step up. I've only met a few people from there. They're stand offish, but they are good people at heart. There's got to be a way to reach out for help.
WTH is with your daughter? I've got some family like that. Push the relationship right now so you can be around your grandkids. You need them right now. Your daughter needs to grow the heck up. You obviously are in the right here, but that doesn't matter. She's not going to get it, and you need some family right now. Assert yourself all over the place. Find your lifeline.
Dump that idiot who doesn't feel like driving you where you need to go.
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I stopped by my daughter's house because I figured she should know that this type of breast cancer doesn't show up on a regular mammogram and that she should see her doc about it. Anyway, I drove up and beeped and beeped and they didn't bother to come out. So I wrote a note and put it in her mailbox. Why do I bother...
I didn't go to the door because everytime I do, it is locked and they won't answer it.
It hurts so much. How can she be so cruel? I just don't get it.
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Oh - I have an appointment with oncology Monday. We are going to discuss tomoxifen. Any insight?
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Hi!
I wish I was up in your neck of the woods, I would make you some food in a heart beat!!! I live in MA, and like you, LOVE Cape Cod, so, once the kids are gone, will probably be heading there to live. I need to think about the food issue... that is a big one for helping you heal, I wonder if a local church outreach would be able to help you.... even if you don't belong... I am not sure how many churches are in your area, how welcoming they are, but I know if my church learned about you and your situation and how you are on your own, our outreach would be there to help you in a heart beat... is there a First Congregational Church locally?
I don't know about tamoxafin, but I just was diagnosed with dcis, long story short, just had lumpectomy and at the end of February or early March I am going for the unilateral mastectomy... Just like you, my dcis is er+ and pr+. So from what I hear, tamox is good for preventing recurrence of estrogen positive dcis, but not sure how it applies when a double mastectomy is involved. someone else on the boards will probably have insight on that!
Hugs to you!!!
Hope you have a good night sleep tonight
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Theyaregone,
I just wanted you to know that you are in my prayers! I have been on Tamox for 1/12 yrs. The side effects that I have experienced are hot flashes and endometrial thickening. I take a baby aspirin since I have high cholesterol and Tamox can cause blood clots. Just as a precaution.
Take Care!
Debbie
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TAG
I have to wonder if there are other issues coming in to play with your daughter. Forgive me and this is in no way meant to be insulting, but what springs to mind is drugs. Alot of users will justify there actions ie locking the door when you come, being angry at you for no apparant reason etc, all in an effort to hide substance abuse. A very old friend of mine (totally clean now) came clean to us all years ago that she had been doing crack cocaine BIG TIME. None of us knew AT all and I for one was very shocked. We just figured she was busy with the kids and the man. She even went on to tell us that one day when someone dropped by in the middle of them getting high that they locked the door and pretended they weren't home. This was mainly due to paranoia and the fear of being found out. Just one example. I hope that's not the case though.
I'm really glad you were able to attend a support group, makes such a difference to know you're not alone in this.
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My daughter has BPD (borderline personality disorder) the world has to evolve around her and if it doesn't it's my fault even though I haven't been in her life for almost 4 years.
I am done as far as she is concerned. I refuse to let her control my emotions and keep me stressed out anymore. I know I did my best as a mother and I know that I was an amazing grandmother too. If she can't realize that, for whatever selfish reason she has, that's her problem. I tried.
Anyway. I am doing pretty good now. Haven't taken pain meds for over a week and I have been driving for a couple days now. So I have been happily going through the drive-thru's of local fast foods.
I have been taking care of me and now I can even lift my arms above my head!!!! Never thought I would be excited about that but I am.
I will be going out of town 3 times this coming week for Oncology, physical therapy and to get my camisole with my fisrt little boobies in it. So I will be near Wal-Mart and able to do some grocery shopping. They have those ride-on carts and someone in the store will load my car for me. I will swallow my pride and ask someone to unload my groceries when I get home. A couple people have said they will help me so I am going to test it.
I still become majorly depressed at night so I take an Ativan and sleep. I have stopped asking and expecting that "friend" to help me and when she calls wanting me to take HER to the store, I tell her I am not going and I admit that I don't answer the phone very often when she calls. All she wants is stuff from me so I don't need that.
I am amazingly happy that I found this site. You have been my rock and strength. I am so smitten with all of you.
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Theyaregone- just found this thread. I am glad that others found it sooner. One thing that I have learned from bc.org is that we never have to be alone. There is always someone here to understand and support us. I am glad you are able to get around a bit more now.
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Theyaregone - It sounds like you have found you strength....good for you! I like your response to the "friend" who only comes around when she wants something from you. You are your own best friend! Getting out and about will be good therapy. I can't say I understand what you are going through because (1) I had only a lumpectomy, and (2) my sister lives nearby and has been a great rock of support for me. But I do understand the need to stay strong and positive through our shared ordeals....and I know you can do it!
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TAG, check with your oncologist's office. The one I went to in Portland had a social worker call me shortly after dx to see if I needed anything. I'm fairly sure that's a free service. It's there for precisely people like you who fall through the cracks. Even though you're doing better, use this service if it's offered.
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Please don't forget to ask for an Onco test at the Onocologist before you or he/she decides a course of treatment.
I'm really glad you are doing better!! Sorry about your daughter but sometimes we just can't control other people. When the results are always negative especially...
But good for you--getting out, driving and shopping. But watch that fast food. We BC gals have to really watch our diets.
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TAG
Big Hugs to you! It has to be hard with your Daughter but you sound like you are really finding your inner strength. Only having a UNI with support from others and I admire you for it. BTW once you get those boobie cami's, it will have a positive affect believe me. I hated being lopsided and the day I got mine I felt a bit more like myself. The day prior to that was my first shower after surgery and then the nurse came to remove the drains!! That was a good day! Those little things meant so, so much!!
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Circles, what is an Onco test?
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An onco test is a test done on the tumor which helps determine your risk of cancer recurrence and whether you would benefit from chemotherapy. I believe the criteria are that you be post-menopausal, have clear nodes, early stage (1 or 2) and estrogen receptor positive. If your onco score is below a certain level, the benefits of chemo do not outweigh the side effects and it would probably not be recommended. If the score is above a certain level, chemo would most probably be recommended as the benefits would strongly outweigh any side effects. If you fall in the middle range, the decision whether or not to have chemo would require some careful consideration between you and your oncologist. Of course, any decision about any part of your treatment is your decision. This is just another tool to help you make an informed decision.
It is a very expensive test ($4000) but is covered by most insurance. It is NOT covered through Tricare, which is what I have, but my supplemental insurance, Marine Corps Association (through CHAMP-VA) does cover it. You'd have to see if your insurance covers it. But the lady I spoke with at Genomic Health (the lab that does the test) did say that they work hard to see that anyone who needs the test can get it.
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I know that if you are Her2+, they do not do the test, as you automatically have to have chemo. TAG, do you know your HER2 status yet? (it should be on your path report from the biopsy, I think)
I was very sad to read about your daughter. I have a relative who is a social worker/therapist and she says that the Borderline clients she has are the most challenging. Is she married? I wonder if her husband (if she has one) would be more receptive to you seeing the grandkids. Also, is she your only child?
At any rate, you sound SO much better than when you first started posting. The women on this board can TRULY be a livesaver, can't they? I am so glad you came here.Also glad you can get out and about a bit more. That is going to make your world a bit bigger and raise your spirits some.
Keep us posted.
Amy
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Jumping on board to give hugs and lots of support to theyaregone. So glad you found this board and the truely amazing women on it. ((((hugs)))
Cats
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TAG- So glad to hear you are out and about. I know after my BMX when I was driving I felt so free! BUT I got Tired easily- take care you do not tire yourself too much. Things look much darker when you are tired, and we all need to see the sun! I am glad you found out about your so called friend and you seem to know just how to treat her. Good for you. Just don't get sucked back in. You will find so much support out there, keep it up. I am so happy for you. Please keep us updated, I know I want to know! PS- Arms above the head - good for you! That is a big step! And your Her2 status is important, they canceled my onco test when that Her2 showed- it trumps everything else and chemo is recommended (required, really, but it is always your decision)
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Hey TheyAre! I'm so glad that you're up and at 'em. This is tough as hell with a good support system. I'm so sorry for all the pain that you are going through. I just have to say too that it's not about swallowing your pride to ask for some help. Everybody needs help sometime. We don't belong to a church, but the neighbor up the block does. Someone from her church brought us a meal each Friday--the days of my chemo. I'm glad you found the wonderfully supportive community here, but you just never know who in your life may be the one to help. Let people know, and don't feel embarrassed to accept help. That was hard for me, but it made a really big difference when I did.
Hang in there, love. We're all with you!
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I was told the same, HER+ status trumps all, exact words. I have my final consult tomorrow with the oncologist so I'll know what day I'll be starting. Is it normal to start 8 weeks post MX?? Not that I'm complaining, wouldn't mind another couple of weeks though.
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As far as the Oncotype test, just want to add: you do not have to be post menopausal. It is to calculate "Distant" recurrence rate, and can also be done with minimal nodal involvement; one or two or micromets... But, it is just one tool that the MO's use to determine whether or not they advise chemo.
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I am so confused. This terminology is driving me nuts. My surgeon never mentioned the HER2 test. Is that something that was done already? What does it mean? Is this something the oncologist will talk to me about? My surgeon said that all I will probably floow-up with is the tomoxifen pill for a few years and then maybe not since I don't have either brasts anymore. I didn't even know that chemotherapy was in question. Am I in for more crap? I really am not sure I can handle anymore. My life has been onething after another. Enough!
Anyway, another question. I have all this fluid in my boob area. I can actually hear it slushing around when I move it and my chest gets so tight. My surgeon has only seen me at the beginning of the day so there hasn't been much and he doesn't seem worried about it. My days end, like now, my chect hurts because the fluid makes it tight.
Is there a way to reduce the fluid? Anyone else have this problem?
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TAG -Please take your temp - if is not normal call your BS (Breast Surgeon- unles your are having reconstruction- then call your PS- Plastic Surgeon) Tight is not good. Sloshing- i think there are a couple of people that had that, you will probably hear from them. HER2 is tested from the breast tissue removed in the BMX. if you are HER2 negative, no problem. If it is positive or equivacol, they do further testing called the FISH test to determine the result. ONLY if it is "amplified" is it a problem. They also test for Estrogen and Progesterone receptors. If ER and PR positive, it means that you may need further treatment for that - usually an Estrogen blocker. All of this is from the tissue already sent in from the BMX. The Tomoxifen is an Estrogen blocker- so you are probably ER+, You can get a copy of your Pathology report if you want. If the ER test is in, and he didn't mention Her2, you are probaly ok, but sometimes it takes a while for the test results, so next time you talk, ask. The MO(Medical Oncologist) will call you if it is positive as you will have some decisions to make. ONCO testing is done to see what "score" you have and if it is high enough, they recommend chemo. If your MO did not recommend it, then the best Tx (treatment) has already been planned, and they will tell you what to expect. I hope that this helped.
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I just called the ER to see about getting some of this fluid drain so I can have some relief. They made it sound like its no big deal and I don't want to be a bother so I guess I will wait until tomorrow and call my surgeon. The problem is that it only increases like this at night and I just want some relief. I am tired and sitting here crying again because my chest is so tight and uncomfortable. Its not an emergency so I don't want them to have to call in my surgeon from home. They don't get enough home time as it is. I hate bothering people for what they feel can wait.
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TAG, maybe call your surgeon in the morning but ask for the last appt of the day. That might help since surgeon can't help if he doesn't see the problem.
Best of luck.
Leah
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Time for an Ativan and BED - night sweet ladies.
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get some sleep- I hope you feel better.
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