Any February 2012 radiation gals out there?

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Relda
Relda Member Posts: 127

Hello ladies!



I am starting my radiation treatments on January 30th and was hoping to meet up and share the ride with anyone on a similar schedule. I am doing a clinical trial with regards to radiation - I was first diagnosed in 2006 and had a 10cm tumor, ER/PR + as well as HER2+. I did AC and Taxol, 4 tx's each dose dense. I did chemo first to shrink the tumor, then had a lumpectomy and rads, 7 weeks worth. In October of last year I was diagnosed with a recurrence, 1cm tumor this time, with the same characteristics, triple positive again. Instead of a mastectomy, which is the standard of care in such cases, I am doing a clinical trial where we do another lumpectomy and targeted radiation to the tumor site only as opposed to full breast. I will be having 2 tx per day for 3 weeks with lots of follow up - the first year I will have an ultrasound every 3 months, second and third year every 4 months, then every 6 months. Mammogram every 6 months and my onc might order an MRI every once in awhile if he feels anything. I will also be doing chemo again this time, 6 rounds of TCH (taxotere, carboplatin and Herceptin) starting the end of February. One of the protocols of the trial is that I have to start rads within 42 days of surgery so I will be doing rads before chemo.



So that's my story - anyone else starting on Radiation Road in February?

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  • AnnAlive
    AnnAlive Member Posts: 450
    edited January 2012

    Relda - I'm so sorry to hear about your recurrence. You certainly have a rigorous schedule mapped out for treatment and follow-up! Is your tumor at the same area as the initial lumpectomy?

    I started rads on Jan 16, getting 7 weeks, daily M-F, therefore I will be going through Feb and a little beyond. I have had chemo & surgery, continuing Herceptin through June, and then my focus is reconstruction (after failed TE) and staying well.

    I don't have rad side effects yet, but during Feb, I'm hoping we can all minimize the burning and fatigue.

  • Relda
    Relda Member Posts: 127
    edited January 2012

    Hi Ann - yes the tumor was in the exact same place - we were hoping at first that it was just more scar tissue it was that close to the lumpectomy surgery site from 2006.  Alas that was not the case Tongue out  The schedule is a bit daunting but as I am not working right now I am glad I have time time to be able to do the tx's.  2 times a day will cut the duration from 6 weeks to three weeks so I am thankful for that.  What kind of chemo did you do?  Hope it went well for you.  I had really really bad blisters from rads the first time around, we are hoping since this will be narrowly targeted at just the tumor site that that won't happen this time.  Fingers crossed!  I worked full time when I did rads in 2007 on a very rigorous job so I never knew if rads made me tired or the job lol.  I guess I will find out this time around.....

    Great to meet you, since I have been there, done that - if you have any questions ask away!

  • GirlPowerDebbie
    GirlPowerDebbie Member Posts: 213
    edited January 2012

    Hi ladies ...

    I see the RO this Tues 1/24, then we are off to the races. 

    I was diagnosed June 2011, lumpectomy July 2011, TAC chemo (6 tx) from September thru December.  I have a family history (my oldest sister is a 32 year survivor ... her daughter was not so lucky, died at age 38).  My sister never had the BRCA blood test but her daughter did, and she had a mutation.  I just got my BRCA results back last week and I am thrilled to be negative - it took a lot of prophylactic surgery off the table. 

    I hope to bang out the simulation this week too after I see the RO; I want to get this done.  My MO is telling me it will be 33 treatments.  She says rads will be a cakewalk after what I went thru with chemo - the TAC is a nasty cocktail.  I am a healthy, strong person but chemo just kicked my butt.  I just want my life back!

    I am sorry to meet you under these circumstances, but I am grateful for the sisterhood.

    "When the spring flowers bloom, so shall I."

    Hugs!

    Debbie 

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited January 2012

    Relda:  So sorry to hear about your recurrence.  Interesting about your clinical trial.  You will get excellent follow up with that.  

    I'm getting my scans tomorrow, hopefully will get a partial beam breast radiation for 5 days 2x a day  and then done.  I have to meet criteria...surgical site can be no more than 1/3 of the entire breast.  I have small breasts so it will be close.  If I have to have the three week version WBR it will run into February.  Nothing is easy!  I absolutely hate doing rads, but then I'm scared not to do them, because I'm not sure I can handle the anti hormonals.

    All the best to you on your surgery...sending prayers and positive energy! 

  • Relda
    Relda Member Posts: 127
    edited January 2012

    Welcome Debbie and Kaara! 

    Debbie - I did AC and Taxol the first time around so I know what you went through - no fun at all that is for sure!  Glad to see you came through with your humor and strength intact.  Your onc is right, rads IS  acakewalk in comparison.  It only gets better from here.....

    Kaara - nice to meet you as well - nothing is easy but good to see you will be getting through rads quickly, even 3 weeks is great compared to the 6-7 weeks most ladies face.  A week sounds great!  I've been on Tamoxifen for almost 5 years and have had very few SE's so if you choose to go that route hopefully it will be the same for you.  Thanks for your wishes - I had my lumpectomy surgery on December 21st, had the port put in at the same time.  It went very well, I am all healed up and ready to get on with it  Smile

    Onward we go!

  • AnnAlive
    AnnAlive Member Posts: 450
    edited January 2012

    Relda - Did the docs suggest MX to you this time and are they pretty confident this clinical trial will work for you even though MX is standard of care, as you said?

    Relda - (answering your question) I had dd AC x4 followed by weekly Taxol x12. I have mild neuropathy from it, and problems with my nails--lost the 2 big toenails and they're still growing back. My fingernails had turned dark during AC, but that has grown out; still have a kind of deformity at the nail tips, though, where some nails have an extreme curvature making the nail grow down into the skin (almost like ingrown toenail - yuk) and they hurt! I hope it will correct itself over time. I have read others having messed up nails from chemo, but not this particular fingernail problem.

    I'm glad to hear reports of rads being a cakewalk. It's time for a cakewalk! I'm seeing other stories on the earlier rads threads, though. Praying for cakewalk. Smile

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited January 2012

    Relda:  Not sure I'll be taking tamoxifen...I'm post menopausal so I know there are other drugs that are recommended for us, but the first MO I saw mentioned it along with others.  I tried to tell him about a study I had seen on Metformin and he just blew me off, which I didn't like.  I think he should have at least let me finish my thought.  I'll be getting another MO because I don't like being treated that way.

    I'm also seeing a naturopathic doctor that is guiding me on my diet and lifestyle changes.  I feel that what we eat is a very important part of keeping bc from recurring.  I have cut all starch and sugar from my diet and eat mainly fruits, veggies, nuts, and protein.  It's easy to follow and the good news is you lose weight and build muscle mass.  I'm disappointed that I'll have to give up all my antioxidants during rads treatment, but I feel I've got a good start on getting my body in optimal condition.  I started this program back in October, after I was dx.

    Off to my scan app't this morning...hopefully I come back with some good news about the short rads treatment. 

  • milliesmom
    milliesmom Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2012

    I had my first simulation last Friday and will have second on Weds Jan 25. I have never had radiation before. 2008 had triple neg ca with mastectomy, refused treatment, now 8 yrs later have recurrence under arm but just in the skin. Receptors were different so they dont know if its the same as last time or a primary tumor. I am a wreck about the radiation, especially chest wall as I am small and my heart is close to me chest wall and doesnt fall back much on inspiration. I work and dont know for sure if I should take a leave or what. I know we are all different but need to hear the truth about others side effects. Oh- M-F for 6 weeks. I am so sorry to hear about everyones cancer and treatments. You are all so brave!

  • Relda
    Relda Member Posts: 127
    edited January 2012

    ANN - my oncs and I did discuss MX v. the clinical trial at great length before I made the decision to do the trial. Since it is a trial and there is not a lot of data in yet, of course they cannot be certain what the outcome will be, so I cannot say that my MO and my RO are confident that it will work, but they are certainly hopeful. I decided to do the trial for several reasons. First and foremost I'd like to avoid a bi-lat mast if I can. I dont plan on doing recon if i do have one, too many doc appts, more people poking at my boobs every few months just does not appeal to me. I've had giant boobs my whole life and the idea of not having them anymore doesn't freak me out. I'm 51, married, my husband just wants me healthy and happy in whatever condition I decide. I might change my mind later re: recon but if i do have to have it done i definitely will not do immediate recon. If I have to do it in the future (if I have another recurrence) of course I will, but if I can put that off for now, great. Secondly, I wanted to contribute to the research. If in the future women can avoid a mastectomy due to the positive results from this study, that would be awesome. Since I will be so closely followed, if I do have another recurrence it will be caught even earlier than this one was so I feel safe in that regard. And as I said, if it does come back again, at that point there will be no further discussion, the girls will be going bye bye ;-). I honestly did not see a downside to doing the trial and was really glad I fit the profile and was given the opportunity to do it.



    I had no where near the nail issues you did during chemo, I am so sorry what a drag. My biggest issue was reeeeeeally bad constipation and when I wasn't constipated really bad diarrhea. Yeah, that was fun. Not! I have read that icing your nails during tx really helps with the nail issues. Did you try that by any chance? In any case I am glad that's over for you. Re: radiation, as I mentioned my worst SE was the bad blisters I got, but that's not unusual for someone with big boobs like me. Besides that I had no other SE's at all, not fatigue or anything. It will be sooooo much easier than chemo I promise.



    KAARA - I am so with you on switching oncs. He/she is the most important person in your cancer journey and you have to have one you get along with, who listens to you, does not blow off your concerns or questions etc. I LOVE my onc, he is kind, compassionate, funny, patient, explains everything, listens to me and answers questions and discusses anything I want to talk about without being condescending or curt. You must find someone like this, you will be in partnership with this person for the rest of your life. Or until they retire ;-)

    Good luck at rads today let us know how it went.



    MILLIESMOM - welcome! Wanted to tell you that even though I had pretty bad blistering (due to my giant boobs lol) I worked full time at a very very rigorous job, 12-14 hour days. I had normal fatigue as is warranted from working 12-14 hour days. Of course everyone is different but I have rarely heard of people needing to take off from work due to radiation tx's. The actual tx takes about 3-5 minutes, I was in and out of the rad center in less than 20 minutes unless they were behind for some reason. Will you be doing chemotherapy this time? Glad to meet you and look forward to talking more :-)

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited January 2012

    My RO app't was uneventful..she was very nice and went over again what I've heard about 20 times by now, but I listened intently in case I might have missed something before.  What I wasn't prepared for was the CT scan...I had no idea it was like an MRI and I would have to go into a tube.  I'm claustrophobic, so I almost freaked out until they told me it wouldn't be long.  I wouldn't have been able to stand much more than five minutes, and with my arms over my head, my left hand began to tingle and feel like it was being shocked.  It wasn't fun, but they told me that was it...no more machines like that.  Hard to believe I lived 71 years without ever going into one of those:)

     The RO is going to call and let me know if I meet the criteria for the partial beam radiation, but in any case, I start treatment next Wednesday.  The center is only 15 minutes from my home so that is good.

  • GirlPowerDebbie
    GirlPowerDebbie Member Posts: 213
    edited January 2012

    I was glad to see all your posts!

    ANN -  Re nails ... my skin and nails were great thru chemo.  My fingernails look like they did when I took prenatal vitamins.  Throughout chemo I used a product called TRIND (applied to nail like polish) that I have used to prevent splitting and peeling (my nails are pretty crappy).  I do not know if that helped, but I guess it didn't hurt.   But I know what the bad ones look like ... my niece's nails turned black, lifted off the beds and eventually fell off.  There is just no rhyme or reason to how some SE do not appear and some come in spades.  Everybody is different.  I read about the icing of the fingernails to prevent that - read it on the boards.  I also read something similar to that for hair loss prevention too, it involved putting ice packs on the head 30 min before, 60 min after chemo.  Wish I had read that before all my hair fell out.  I miss my hair.  I have about half of my eyelashes left, and practically no eyebrows.  Grrrr.....

    I am interested in hearing more about the partial beam radiation.  I have small boobs too, and my lumpectomy scar is in the crease at the bottom of my left boob.  The surgeon told me that was "good" for radiation - small boobs mean less tissue to penetrate to get to the tumor site, I guess.  I hope to learn more tomorrow when I see the RO.  I worry about the adjacency to my heart/lungs.  No help for it, I guess.

    Does the prep work for radiation include a CT scan?  Anything else?

    KAARA - I am lucky, I love my onc.  She is wonderful - patient, approachable, answers all my questions (and I bring a notebook every time) - I never feel rushed.  She came well recommended, and as I travel thru the hospital and say I have Dr. Rooney, I have heard story after story about how kind and caring she is.  I feel lucky to have her.  Plus she is an Ohio State alumni and my youngest goes there, so she gets points for that, too.  GO BUCKS!

     RELDA - Kisses to you for your attitude about the trial.  Best of luck. 

    Well, I will let you know how it goes tomorrow at the RO. 

    Debbie

  • rabbit
    rabbit Member Posts: 613
    edited January 2012

    Hi everyone, I will be joining the Feb rads group :) I was dx in June 2011. Had 5+ months of chemo, lumpectomy on Jan 5th and just found out I am getting my ovaries removed on the 31st! So I had my tattoos done today and got the CT and mold done. I go back Feb 10th (10 days past ooph) for my first dry run and then Monday Feb 13th I start rads.

    It's after midnight and I'm exhausted, but wanted to say hi to my new group of friends :)

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited January 2012

    Welcome rabbit:  I had the same thing done today and I start next Wednesday.  It was a very exhausting day for me as well..something about that CT machine that stressed me out.  I am claustrophobic, so it was a nightmare for me going in there!  Anyway, it one more thing that we've gotten through.  

    Sending you prayers on your upcoming surgery...mine were removed 20 years ago, so I'm sure the techniques are so much better now...probably don't even cut you open.  We'll be here for you! 

  • redplasticboots
    redplasticboots Member Posts: 17
    edited January 2012

    hello! count me in. i start radiation on the 4th of feb. and i am both nervous and excited. i cannot wait to finish radiation and be DONE with treatment (hopefully never again!) but at the same time i am incredibly apprehensive about the radiation itself. i hear it can get incredibly gruelling and some of my fears are rooted in vanity - discoloration and burns. geez. the fun never ends on this ride huh? 

     relda: sorry to hear about your recurrence. i hope you beat it and thanks for starting this thread! 

  • rabbit
    rabbit Member Posts: 613
    edited January 2012

    hi Kaara, thanks so much :) the ooph will be done laproscopically, so it should only leave 2 small incisions. I will let you all know! 

    redplasticboots, welcome as well!!

  • tlead
    tlead Member Posts: 15
    edited January 2012

    Feb rads?  Probably count me in :)

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited January 2012

    Hi ladies;

    Popping in here to share some helpful info on the main Breastcancer.org site on Radiation Therapy, including types of radiation therapy, what to expect, and how to manage side effects.

    Hope this helps!

    --Your Mods

  • Relda
    Relda Member Posts: 127
    edited January 2012

    Welcome to rabbit, redplasticboots and tlead!  Looks like we have a nice group going here Smile  Thanks also to the moderators for the info.....

    Had my 4th Herceptin yesterday, the first with my port - had a benedryl drip first and slept through the whole thing.  Was spacey and a little nauseous the rest of the day.  Not the usual reaction from Herceptin, going to mention it to my onc today.  

    So Monday is my second planning session, I guess that's the one where they do the CT scan?  They mentioned an xray when I left last time.  Funny how I don't remember any of this from my first go round, even though it was only 5 years ago.  Then we start with the 2x a day tx's on Tuesday.  I will be glad when the three weeks are up, even though it means moving on to the rest of the chemo I will be doing.  The middle of June cannot come soon enough Wink

    Hope everyone's week is going smoothly!

     

  • Sharon1942
    Sharon1942 Member Posts: 272
    edited March 2014

    I'd like to join the Feb. rads group.  I have my "consultation" with the RO on Jan. 26.  I had this appt. once before in Sept., but to my dismay they are making me repeat it since it has been over 4 months!  Anyway, I sort of know what to expect at this appt. - exam & sign consent.  I'm guessing they'll make an appt. for me to come the next week for the markings, mold, & simulation.  But, I don't know if that is done in one appt. or not.  How did that go for any of you that have been there already?  I was hoping to start rads 3 weeks after chemo - but it is going to be 6+ weeks because the RO was busy in Jan. with meetings - ugh!  I'll be driving the myself 24 miles.  Hope to have the rad appts. just before lunch so I can meet Dallas friends for a fun lunch every week or so.  I will have 6 1/2 weeks of rads, 5 days a week.  I feel like I have gotten my strength back & feel normal again after chemo.  I'm hoping rads will be a piece of cake.  (Even though I'm on the healthy anti-cancer mode of eating - no sugar as it feeds cancer.  I have bought an entire library of books on healthy eating & I'm trying to learn.  It is overwhelming.)

  • milliesmom
    milliesmom Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2012

    Had my first radiation today. I thought it was to be the 2nd sim, which it was but they sprung the treatment on me. I was not mentally prepared and kind of freaked me out. Will be once a day for 6 weeks. Guess I just have to wait and see what SE I will have. I am not having chemo. supposed to start arimidex after rads. I will see what the SE of that are and if I am miserable I wont take it. I already am in pain from stenosis and sciatica and cant imagine joint pain. Yesterday was my Birthday and it was the best one ever. I am so blessed to have so many that I love and who love me. Really helps when going through this stuff. Had my little tumor removed 3.5 weeks ago and there is a lump there. Probably just scar tissue but I am now crazy psycho woman so going to see surgeon to make sure! Thank all of you for sharing. You are the best and bravest.

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited January 2012

    I was all set for rads starting next week but my RO called today and said she could not find the surgical site...there was no trace of it..only the clip the BS left and the scar.  Very unusual she said.  I was trying to get partial breast radiation, but due to this new event, I now only qualify for WBR which I am not sure I want to do.  I remember my DS and DIL praying for God to heal my disease as though it was never there.  It sounds like our prayers have been answered.

    milliesmom:  That little lump is very likely scar tissue, particularly if it is near the scar area.  Don't worry, but have it checked if it will make you feel better. 

  • rabbit
    rabbit Member Posts: 613
    edited January 2012

    Hi everyone, I have surgery on Tuesday (ooph) and will be going out of town for the next few days to the local casino to forget about life LOL. I left my boyfriend after almost 2 years a few days ago, it's very amicable but still stressful obviously. So in case you don't hear from me for a bit, I wanted to let you know. 

    good luck to all that start or have started rads. I'll be catching up on all the posts soon I'm sure! 

    Hugs to everyone 

  • sherrybaby
    sherrybaby Member Posts: 80
    edited January 2012

    I would like to join this group. I finished chemo on Friday the 13th Wink and will start rads on Feb 1st. I had my planning and tatoos done Monday.

    I had my MX in Sept, did DD AC and was going to do Taxotere rather than Taxol until I had hand/foot syndrome after my first Taxotere treatment, so had 3 Taxol. Started Arimidex and now rads.

    Looking forward to sharing this part of our journey with all of you.

    Sherry

  • rabbit
    rabbit Member Posts: 613
    edited January 2012

    welcome sherrybaby! We have something in common, I too had what they thought was hand/foot syndrome to the docetaxel, but then my onco said it wasn't, it was just a severe reaction, but hand/foot is a virus and they swore what I had wasn't viral. My hands and feet look sunburnt so bad, they were peeling for weeks, I had to wear gloves with udder butter on my hands to sleep for days adn days. And socks with udder butter on my feet, to bed every night for weeks. I couldn't get my shoes on for a good week, it was HORRIBLE! They switched me to taxol for 9 weeks after that...

    Ladies, I just got my Biofine lotion, my RO highly suggested it. I don't start til Feb 13th but figured I would get it put aside, it's expensive, like $114 for a large tube and $60 for a small one!

    Off to bed now, nite all :) 

  • misha99
    misha99 Member Posts: 28
    edited January 2012

    Hi Everyone-- I am also part of Radiation February.  I will be getting 33 - 38 treatments beginning on or about Feb 9th.  I met with my doctor yesterday and i only have one more hurdle:  to get the stitches from my reconstruction removed and get the blessing of my plastic surgeon.  I had immediate tissue expanders and will undergo rads with my final implant in place...which makes me somewhat nervous but so far this strategy is working based on a protocol tried at Sloan Kettering.  (I know--some doctors refuse to do rads after implant or they say it can't be done).  So the plan is to get my tattoos and CT simulation on Feb 2nd.  Then start the rads about a week later.  I am interested to know if there are any other patients like me post reconstruction..  Also I have been told to wear a good bra during rads.  I suspect that is due to my implant.  I thought they usually said to go braless during rads??  What have you been told?   Well -- good luck everyone!! 

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited January 2012

    misha99:  Good luck to you.  I think it's wonderful that you are getting treatment "off protocol" as they call it.  I tried to qualify for a short term PBI off protocol with Sylvester, but they couldn't locate my tumor site...it had healed completely so they have nothing to target.  Now I'm stuck with WBI and I don't want that, so I will probably forego rads altogether.  My age and early stage bc allows me the option of doing this if I choose.

  • weinerdoggy56
    weinerdoggy56 Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2012

    Hi all,

    My dry run is next week.  I do have a question.  I talked to my RO about my concern for too much heart irradiation since it's my left breast that's being hit.  He said it's his job to make sure that my heart and lungs don't get a toxic level of radiation.  That's all fine and good but isn't even a non-toxic amount enough to potentially cause future problems? 

    I'm extremely lucky because I didn't need chemo and my cancer was small and caught early.  I had a bi-lateral breast reduction done at the same time as the lumpectomy so it took me about 8 weeks to heal. I admire all you ladies who had it rougher than I.  How do you maintain your sanity?  I have meltdowns from time to time.  Not so much "why me?"  I've never questioned that, but more "when is all going to end?"

  • bojo
    bojo Member Posts: 74
    edited January 2012

    Weinerdoggy56,

    Having my 5th treatment today on right side, but this is my second time around, 1st time left side.  The way they explained to me is they basically point the beams sideways to get the breast tissue not straight on if you know what i mean.  I have had no issues the last 6 years on my left side.  So hope all goes will for you too.

    Jo

  • weinerdoggy56
    weinerdoggy56 Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2012

    Thanks, Jo.  That makes sense.   2 of my four tattoos are at the very sides or each breast, so I wonder if that's to aim it like that?  I'll have to ask them next week since they told me to write down all my questions!  Good luck to you on round 2!  Did you take any hormone replacements after the first time?  Just curious because they're telling me that is supposed to help keep the cancer from recurring.

  • bojo
    bojo Member Posts: 74
    edited January 2012

    weinerdoggy56

    I was 40 the 1st time.  so yes i was put on tamox, but had terrible SE's, leg cramping and extreme menstrual periods.  so after 6 months i stopped wtih the MO's okay, since it was only "DCIS". he was ok with the decision and said it was up to me.  Well in hindsight i wonder if that's why it came back.  But i try not to think of the what if's.  (very hard) So because i am now 46 and i had a uterine ablasion, they are thinking the the bleeding may not be that bad.  But i really have no choice but to go on something.  this time around they found 3mm if IDC with the DCIS.  so after Radiation i will be going on Tamox.  Hopefully i can tolerate this time around.  they also mentioned putting me in menapause with a monthly shot.  I can't remember the name. 

    Jo

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