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  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited January 2012

    Update on SC:

    Success on my solo effort!  Thanks, ladies, for the tips on SC usage and amounts.  However, I did notice a lot of burning that subsided after a few minutes.  Anyone else?

    Another interesting side effect - I have oral (not genital) herpes and noticed breakouts the day after using the SC.  It does have an ingredient that they say can cause genital herpes breakouts, but nothing about the oral variety.  Anybody else have this?

  • scuttlers
    scuttlers Member Posts: 1,658
    edited January 2012

    Very interesting Scootaloo, which ingredient? I have had a huge zit show up in different places on my body, but was blaming the Tykerb. About 15 years ago I had one similar, on my leg just above the knee, thought it was a spider bite, had it cultured and the lab said it was herpes. Now they seem to show up in various places and thinking about it, they coincide with the SC use (about 36 hours later). What can we use if this is the cause? I really do not want to give up the SC!



    The burning/tingling is for me very temporary on application, and has decreased as the area seems to be getting more healthy with "use".

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited January 2012

    L-Arginine.  I had three itchy blister things appear on my arm just below my shoulder.  I'm wondering about that now....

    I think they can just omit that from the recipe, next time.  I don't know how it'll affect the results, though. 

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited January 2012

    "onset is identical to the complete product but duration may be reduced"

    I can live with that! 

  • scuttlers
    scuttlers Member Posts: 1,658
    edited January 2012

    Thanks! I am going to ask that the next refill leave that ingredient out. I'll report the results. My "mega zits" have occurred in the arm pit, upper back, right shoulder, and on my "sensitive area". Just one at a time, but quite large in size.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited January 2012

    Our bodies are just so WEIRD.  Hahaha.

  • scuttlers
    scuttlers Member Posts: 1,658
    edited January 2012

    That goodness for BCO, otherwise we'd all be sitting in isolation thinking we are totally insane. I was wondering if the zits were lymph nodes indicating progression and worried sick; now I can put them into "small price to pay for getting a part of my life back" category.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited January 2012

    Oh wow....sorry about that, scuttlers!  I was worried about the ones on my shoulder (bad side), too.  Thank goodness we're here for each other!

  • tenaj
    tenaj Member Posts: 1,052
    edited January 2012

    My insurance cost $25 for the cream. My DH picked it up from the pharmacy several days ago. I read here about it & my gyn ordered it right away. I didn't ask my MO yet, nor have I tried it yet. Had my exchange surgery 6 days ago & not quite ready yet. Am very excited to give it a whirl very soon.

    Thanks for details you helped with some of my questions.



    Rgiuff- I found a compound pharmacy on long island, if you need more info let me know.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited January 2012

    Mine was $28.  What a wide variety of costs/copays.  How can that be right?

  • puce
    puce Member Posts: 159
    edited January 2012

    Hi ladies,

    Been reading your wonderful posts!  How do you even begin to get your sex drive back? I wish I felt like even trying it!

  • whippetmom
    whippetmom Member Posts: 6,920
    edited January 2012

    I hear you puce.  I would rather have dental work without anesthesia than have sex.  But I am willing to try anything.

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited January 2012

    There is an anti-viral that can control herpes - it's called Valtrex. You need a prescription from your doc.

  • suz45
    suz45 Member Posts: 796
    edited January 2012

    Scootaloo, Yes I had a bit of light stinging when first applied but it went away almost immediately. Hmmm really sucks about the sores... I didnt get any of these and I used to have a tendancy to get cold sores in the winter. Hope you can find something to help that!

    Hugs and glad innitial tryout worked Kiss you are officially a part of the SC Team

    Hugs Suz

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited January 2012

    Thanks, hrf.  I do have a prescription for it and it most certainly helps!  

    Just call me SC ootaloo!  :-D

  • janetlp
    janetlp Member Posts: 54
    edited January 2012

    Is this a prescription you get from the DR ? Thanks

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited January 2012

    Puce - my sex drive is all in my head, literally.  The equipment isn't interested but by God, it will be by the time I'm through!

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited January 2012

    need to get prescription from the doc

  • tami444
    tami444 Member Posts: 259
    edited January 2012

    Forgive me for not going through the entire thread, but after a few pages I did not find anyone mention what helps me.  BACKGROUND ... I am ER+ HER2+,  I was 39 when diagnosed, I am now 45 (yea!) ... still on Herceptin - it's been nearly six years.  I had problems overall with dryness, vaginal attrophy, vaginal infections, and I even got clitoral infections ... to include scaring there due to dryness. 

    So I was referred to a really good gynocologist.  I am have an E-String (yes that is an estrogen ring) inserted and a testorone cream (for the clit).  Both are very low levels, but it keeps the tissues down there much healthier.  The E-String is of the human types of estrogen (unlike Premarin), is an extremely low dose, is absorbed locally (my systemic hormone levels tested through blood and saliva are still in the "menaposal range"), is inserted and left there for three months.  

    My oncologists of course were very skeptical with the hormones ... but systemically my hormones are not elevated, so they are okay with it (... besides they are men).

    Anyway, I have to run off.  I will have to visit this thread again ... need to read up on that scream cream  :D

     

  • GatorGal
    GatorGal Member Posts: 2,550
    edited January 2012

    My onc says no to scream cream because he doesn't know enough about it. I'm going to do a cut and paste and take some of the comments from the thread the next time I see him. :(

  • suz45
    suz45 Member Posts: 796
    edited January 2012

    Glenna, what I dont understand is that my GP looked at the ingredients & knew what they were for... so did the pharmasist... Maybe some of these Oncs should take a minute and READ what they do! Am really curious now what my onc who has been on hiatus for 6 months will say when I show them to her??? Will make sure I get a large batch ordered before I show it to her!

    That said, I did take a few printouts of the comments from here with me for backup when I took it in. And she did read (and copy) them along with the pdf list... figured she wanted to know how to use it. Maybe even for other patients?? She's about mid 50's  

    All I can say is keep trying and good luck!

  • scuttlers
    scuttlers Member Posts: 1,658
    edited January 2012

    Took some doing, and I seriously wonder if my onc actually tested it personally on his DW. That would be the only explanation for his enthusiasm last Friday. He was quite animated in letting me know that he is working with the local compounding pharmacist to have more appropriate name (so no insurance issues) AND he presented at the weekly meeting of the docs, PAs, RNs, with instructions to gently find out how many patients would benefit. VERY INTERESTING turn from his initial embarrassment and hesitation!



    He also told me that I should continue to bring "ideas" from my wonderful forum that will improve patient care. Those of you who are having difficulties with your "poo poo" docs, PM me and I'll give my oncs name and phone number for your doc to call, if it would help your case.

  • GatorGal
    GatorGal Member Posts: 2,550
    edited January 2012

    I first showed the pdf sheet to my gyn. She seemed interested but said that I needed to get the onc to prescribe it for me. I'll try again with him next week when I see him. Seems most of the oncs resist at first and we just need to push the issue. I get what puce and whippetmom are saying .... the sex drive isn't there at all but I thought it worth a try for DH.

  • zumbagirl
    zumbagirl Member Posts: 308
    edited January 2012
    I am playing phone tag with my onc nurse. She said in a message back to me yesterday, that she could order my 5% litocaine, but never heard of scream cream , and she & I should talk about it today, so I went on line and wrote all the ingredients down, and hopefully, today, I can actually talk to her and not her voice mail. I will order it on line if I have to, but I need her ok, before I do it. I am so glad, you are all on here talking about this. It is very helpful Smile
  • scuttlers
    scuttlers Member Posts: 1,658
    edited January 2012

    Zumbagirl, the on line one that can be simply ordered is NOT the one we are using. The one we are using REQUIRES a prescription and a compounding pharmacist.

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited January 2012

    Scuttlers....

    I am picturing the next team meeting at your oncologist's hospital.  A room full of blissed-out middle aged guys.  Plus, of course, the pharmacist.  Perhaps even the middle-aged women doctors.

    Patient satisfaction scores will go up.  I wonder if they will dare reveal why at the next patient care audit.  The whole hospital will become a better place to work.  They will get more patients, especially for change of life issues.

    Their lives will never be the same.  (And you will get as much SC as you need.) - Claire

  • AlaskaAngel
    AlaskaAngel Member Posts: 1,836
    edited January 2012

    Tami444,

    That is one of the problems with the lack of any indication of menopausal status or age in our signature lines. The younger patients have less intense vaginal atrophy (unless they have had ovarian ablation) and they don't agree with those like me who post about the greater effects as time goes by and one ages more (on top of having done chemotherapy). Thank you for posting your age, that helped. I was treated at age 51 and for a couple of years afterward the E-string also helped me. Eventually it wasn't enough. It can and probably will get worse with time, but I'm so happy to see the possibility of an alternative with the use of SC.

    A.A.

  • suz45
    suz45 Member Posts: 796
    edited January 2012

    Yes your right A.A.

    OK, I was 45 when I started chemo and had no sign of menopause. The first chemo stopped my period in its tracks then had the oopherectomy on top of it at age 46. I had my appointment with gyn not long after that. She prescribed vagifem which I hated.. I forget the dose but it was 4 times the amount they prescribe now. Am now on my 4th type of chemo. I tried all sorts of lubes, creams & toys but eventually kinda gave up. Im now 50 and although SC works really well I still dont feel like doing it five times a week. Not enough energy between chemo & pleura issues. Lol, I think dh thought this was gonna be a whoopee fest every night.... as much as I love him sometimes its just as fun to fly solo in between (dont have to wear foobs & nice undies for that) Heh heh, Im having a tired week so not a lot of energy here. Dh dared to mention that he felt he wasnt getting the ummm attention he wanted quite frequently enough. Geeze wonder how he'd feel about once a year again!

    Grumpy day and its pouring with rain. Tongue out

  • lulubee
    lulubee Member Posts: 1,493
    edited January 2012

    Suz, why did you hate Vagifem?

  • 3jaysmom
    3jaysmom Member Posts: 4,266
    edited November 2012
    once a year.. lol suz.. my DH is working on his "end" and im working on mine.. im different from most of you, i think.. i'll be 62 in march, and srill have the desire.. i haven't gotten the sc yet, we're not ready, till i see the gyn.. but, im so happy to hear there may be a solution.!!!O don't care what your age is, while doing chemo, txs, who can even think once a week is plenty more than they were getting.. give them an inch....lol.3jays

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