Mastectomy to come....any surgery preparation suggestions?

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StacyRose
StacyRose Member Posts: 21

After going in circles for 2 months, I've finally made the decision to go with bilateral mastectomy to treat my DCIS.  It's the conclusion I've come to dozens of times, and think it's best for me and my life. 

While I'm so looking forward to putting breast cancer behind me, I'm not looking forward to the surgery scheduled on the 18th of this month.  I have a general idea of what to expect after talked with the surgeons about it and reading peoples personal experiences.  I'm just wondering if any of you who have had mastectomy might be willing to share you favorite tips for making the surgery, recover, and reconstruction process as manageable as possible.

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  • JAT
    JAT Member Posts: 81
    edited January 2012

    Hi Stacy-- I'm sorry you have to go through this, but this board is a great source of support. I didn't discover it until after my surgeries, and it would have really made a difference to me.

    There are a lot of practical things you can do to ease your recovery.

    1. You'll have drains on both sides, which are unwieldy-- Nordstroms carries a special cami with pockets to keep them in place and also hide them when you go out (to the dr's office).  I wore this with a loose zipped hoodie. You won't be able to lift your arms so clothes that are easy to put on and take off are essential.

    2. I set up my bedroom in advance-- I put all the things I would need (clothes, pjs, toiletries, books, dvds) within easy reach. It was well over a month before I could reach the shelf in my closet). 

    3.  Do the exercises the dr. recommends (but only when she says it's safe to do so) to prevent frozen shoulder. I had a SNB on the right side so I had much more stiffness there.  At about 3 weeks I was cleared to do physical therapy. The hospital I was at had a special PT for mastectomy patients. It helped so much-- she massaged the area to prevent scar tissue build-up, taught me exercises to regain range of motion; and measured my arm-- this is important so you can be aware of any changes (in case of lymphedema).

    4. Have some help. If people offer, tell them exactly what you need--otherwise you'll just get flowers and cards, which is nice, but depending on your situation, some meals may be more helpful.  My husband was great about changing my drains and helping me shower. One of my sisters came to help with my daughter, who was 2 at the time, and pamper me. At first I said no to this, but in the end I didn't want her to leave!   I even hired a graduate student to come every two weeks to clean and do laundry until my arm recovered its strength.  It was an extravagance for me but worth it.

    5. Take good notes and ask for copies of everything.  You will be very emotional and exhausted. My husband  came to every post-op appointment and took notes. Some people record their sessions. Ask all the questions you need to, especially have your Pathology report explained to you. Doctors tend to assume you understand the whole thing (or they don't care).  I later got second opinions about my path reports and post-op treatments, so it was important to keep all of the paperwork. And do get a second opinion if anything seems unclear to you, or just for peace of mind. Your insurance usually covers this.

    6.  What type of reconstruction are you having? No one told me that the TEs would hurt (for some, not all)-- this lasted for over a month. The implant exchange was a relief and a piece of cake compared to the mastectomy.

    7.  Use stool softener.  I had this advice from others and it really helped. The meds will constipate you and you do not want to strain when you have so many stitches and drains in your body.

    8. Be kind to yourself.  The pain will be manageable (take those meds!). I had horrible visions of what I would look like, even though I had prepared by looking at lots of phostos of surgeries and reconstructions before and afters.  But when you first see your scars, it is difficult.  Just remember that in a few months, it will look much better. It will never feel the same-- you'll lose sensation, but cosmetically you'll be surprised, and in clothes no one will ever know the difference.

    I'm sure others will have a lot of great advice to share.  Good luck.--Julie 

  • kburdic
    kburdic Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2012

    I am waiting for a surgery date for my bilateral mastectomy to treat my DCIS the above information was very helpful,l in fact I went on line and ordered a cami. It is very difficult decision to make but with a strong family history and not wanting radiation or meds the only way to go. If you can give any advise on questions to ask the plastic surgeon I would appreciate it.

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited January 2012

    I brought my own toiletry products in a beautiful light weight Very Bradley bag (large). This is what I found helpful (I was in the hospital 4 nights)

    Baby wipes

    Neutrogena facial cleansing cloths (so I could wash my face without getting out of bed)

    Nail file, yes I broke a nail and it would have driven me crazy.

    Lip balm

    Deodorant (spray!)

    Extra soft socks with non skid bottoms (hated the hospital ones, they're huge)

    Headbands

    Dry shampoo- although the nurses had a "wet shampoo" that you didn't have to rinse out- much better

    My iPad and my cell phone and charger

    A few pairs of disposable contacts

    Bring lollipops. I didn't, but thankfully one nurse had one and gave it to me. For several hours after surgery, they won't let you have anything except ice chips or a lollipop and my mouth was like sandpaper

  • kburdic
    kburdic Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2012

    Is 4 nights a normal amount of time to be in the hospital my PS told me 1 maybe 2 and I was thinking that was quick . The dry shampoo I would never of thought o thanks f. How was the pain and due to the lenght of surgery did you have any issue post op from being under so long. My PS wants to save one of my nipples and place it under my stomach skin for 6 months them make me new nipples have you ever heard of this?

  • kburdic
    kburdic Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2012

    one more thing did you do reconstruction ? if so what kind and are you happy with it ? I have read so many stories where so many hate them . sighhhhhhhhh to many decisions to many things to decide .

  • KorynH
    KorynH Member Posts: 301
    edited January 2012

    Take the toll free number to Y-me.org along with you 1-800-221-2141 which is a 24/7 emotional support hotline for patients and all calls answered by survivors. I wished I had them to talk to in the middle of the night after my husband had gone home and the nurses were all down the hall. Besides, none of them had been through a mastectomy.



    Bring an open in the front very very large shirt to go home in. You won't be able to lift your arms over your head. Http://healincomfort.com offers a great shirt with drain pockets. A lanyard to pin your drains to under your shirt would be super helpful.



    Keep a notebook next to you to mark down med schedule at home and drain bulb output. You will be drugged up and may not remember times and such so write it all down.



    Someone really should be with you at least those first few days at home. You will probably need help. At least I did. Take short five minute walks to keep your bowels moving. Constipation on narcotics is very common. Drink loads of water too. Miralax became my friend. Wished I had it on hand in the very beginning.



    Best of luck with everything. Don't hesitate to ask here...I hope you find at least some of these helpful!

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited January 2012

    It hurts. Take your pain meds. I' thought I would get back to normal in a week. I'm still on pain meds, and I feel like I have a brick in my right breast. I only removed one. I can't imagine how your chest would feel with both gone. I never thought I would have to take a week off work, but there was no way I could have stood on my feet all day. I had no idea what a major ordeal a mastectomy was going to be. After a hour outing, you may feel exhausted, or spasms. So, plan on doing nothing for awhile. It takes time to recover.

    Also, you might feel a loss for your natural breast. I did. It's ok if you do.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited January 2012

    Stacy,

    The surgery, before, during and after thread has a great shopping/packing list. The cami with drain holders some have mentioned may be covered by insurance so check before you buy one. Many women don't buy them but I liked mine. Lastly, check out what your hospital provides before packing a large bag. Mine provided all toiletries, meals were decent and healthy (and there were many choices). It was very quiet as there were signs everywhere telling people it was a "healing zone" and almost all rooms were private. It was a fairly new hospital and well designed. The one thing I couldn't have done without was my u-shaped neck pillow. Best wishes for a fast and easy recovery.

    Caryn

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited January 2012

    Yes, I had BMX with immediate TE reconstruction. Total surgery 7 hours. The BS started first, the PS joined in about an hour and a half later.... I woke up with a "Frederick's bra" on that they put on me during surgery. It has a full back, and eye hooks and a zipper up the front. Very little in the way of bandages. No stitches, my PS uses a type of glue. My surgery was 11/11/11 and my scars are virtually gone. My PS said I could stay as long as I wanted, he didn't want anyone rushing me.

    I asked about saving the nipples. He did not recommend that for me. He did explain to me that years ago, they would save the nipples and implant them in the groin area until reconstruction...but they had many cases where the nipples were not free of cancer cells and caused issues in the groin area!

    My hospital did provide toiletries, but it was comforting to me to have my own...like my favorite soap, hand wash, lotions, toothpaste, etc...

    I had help when I got home. My mom stayed with us for three weeks, helping with the boys (3) getting to and from school, laundry, meals, answering the door constantly (friends with meals, flowers,) answering the phone. I definitely couldn't have done it with just my husband, although he was great too!

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited January 2012

    We brought a netbook to the hospital with us - they had wi-fi and we used it to Skype family members who were not able to be with us (out of state) but who were on pins and needles waiting to see if I was OK.  I stayed 2 nights which I think it pretty common, but many stay 1 night.  I would be surprised if your insurance would pay for 4 nights. I woke up from surgery with the cami on with the drain pockets so check with your hospital or BS before you purchase one.  I had a skin sparing/nipple sparing double mastectomy with immediate placement of tissue expanders, but I was a candidate for this procedure and many surgeons are not proficient performing them.  I still have the expanders and will be having exchange surgery in a couple of months, having silicone implants. I did receive a special anesthetic block so really didn't have much pain, and stayed on pain meds for only a couple of days.  I switched to Tylenol within the first week definitely.  My husband handled drains for the first few days, and also kept track of meds for me.  I came home on a Wed. from the hospital, husband was home until Mon., then he went back to work and I was on my own after that.  I advise having a basket with remotes, book, magazines, tissues, phone, etc. to keep on the bed or bedside table, it is hard to reach.  Also put some cups/plates/bowls on the counter or at arms reach, you won't be able to reach up high for them.  Better yet, go disposable!  My husband just recently installed dimmer switches on our bedside lamps, they have a little slider thing that he got at Home Depot and it sits right on the edge of the table - it makes it very easy to turn the light on and off without having to reach across.  If you are a planner it is a good idea to freeze small meals ahead of time that can be microwaved.  If people offer to help, do tell them specifically what you need.  If they really want to help they will appreciate some direction, as opposed to trying to guess what you might need!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2012

    Stacy-

    Tell your docs you want a pain pump. They put it in during surgery and it delivers measured amounts of some kind of numbing meds. It continues to work for 4 days and then it can just be pulled out (they tell you that you can do it yourself, but I had a nurse do it). Whatever the stuff is, it does not make you sleepy and can get you off the pain killers pretty quickly.

    I was in the hospital one night. Surgery was in the late morning, and then I was sent home the next morning.

    My friends organized two weeks of meals and for the first week, they had someone there from 11-5 every day, who also brought me lunch. It was great. Use disposable plates and silverware. It is lighter. For glasses, I used the double insulated ones because ice stays in it forever.

    Drink a lot. Eat a lot of protein.

    Get a wedge pillow. I bought a medical one for around $25. I think mine is 12 inches at the highest. It is a huge help, when you want to sleep in your bed, but you can't lay flat comfortably or use your arms to move. I also slept in a recliner for a week. Lots of people love it. It was ok for the first couple of nights, then I was over it. Ours was leather, so I covered it with a twin size mattress pad.

    For the dreaded drains...a lady on here found a zip up Danskin jacket at Walmart that also had pockets on the inside. They were perfect. I bought three in great colors and wore black knit pants so I looked presentable. I bought them big also. Not sure if they still make them, but when I went through my closet, I found two other jackets that had the inside pockets.

    Here is the rest of my random list.

    Pre-Surgery

    Get prescription for post surgery camisoles

    Get pain med prescription so someone can fill it and have it there when you get home

    Laxatives/stool softeners started before surgery and continued while on pain killers

    Tell the anesthesiologist that you get easily nauseated so he will load you up on things to make sure you don't after general anesthetic

    Hair washing tray-I also found a lady who came to my house and washed and put my hair in a style twice a week for two weeks. Some on the site go to Great Clips also. Having your hair washed makes you feel so good, and you just can't do it.

    Lots of small pillows to put between your side and arms to eliminate any bumping. Use one between the seat belt and your chest when riding in the car also.

    My best tip ...... if you like a private room, request a private room.   I am told if the doctor orders it, ins. will cover the expense.  If you request it, you'll be billed the diff. ($100 day in my case).

    Avoid the following supplements for 2 weeks prior to surgery and begin taking 2 weeks after surgery:

    • Don't shave any sooner than 2 days before surgery or it will increase your risk of infection.
      Make sure they have something written for nausea, most patients coming out of anesthesia have nausea
    • Don't forget your pillow to sleep on, hospital pillows are the worst and take a small one to support your chest and keep the seatbelt off.


    Most important!  Make sure your pain meds are scheduled and not as needed!  Stress that one with your surgeon and anesthesiologist.

    • set up hair appointments to come to house

    hand sanitizer is more comfortable than pumping soap and leaning over bathroom sink to wash hands

    --slip-on shoes a must for a couple weeks


    Cute slipper socks

    In the Hospital

    lighteweight robe, preferably one with simple wrap/belt at the waist

    Likewise, comfy slippers. 
    Lip balm.

    phone charger

    kindle


    Ask for that last shot just prior to discharge.

    5. Bodyshop body butter  My own face care stuff too.  I cleaned up everyday best I could until I was allowed to shower (showered on post of day 3).
    6. Eye drops
    7. Ipod

    "Pee" as soon as you're able if you have the sentinel node biopsy to eliminate the dye

    Post Surgery at home

    Someone recommended plastic cups and straws for home.  Lighter and easier to lift than glass, and no cleanup. 

    A shower stool
    hand held shower head enabled me to bathe, with help, before the drains came out. 

    One of those little neck roll pillows was great to nestle under implant (I just can't sleep on my back).

    2. Books/ magazines / DVDs or you'll go nuts just sitting on the couch.

    4. Setup a phone near the bed, chair you will sit in.   

    6. If anyone asks what they can do for you say thank you & accept !!! 

    7. I picked up thank you cards before surgery.  

    Things to know.

    If they do a sentinel node biopsy, be ready, they will likely not numb you and they prep you before the surgery with the dye, generally. Mine was not painful, just stung a little, but others on this board have had some real issues. I hadn't even thought about that before surgery. My doc said they don't like to numb it as the numbing stuff can interfere with the path of the dye.

    Again...OnQ pain pump...insist on it and confirm it in advance.

    Ask for the heated blankets whenever possible, or....if you are lucky....my surgery center had that new warm air blanket that just circulates round the clock. BEST THING EVER!!!!

    Good luck....you will be fine

  • JAT
    JAT Member Posts: 81
    edited January 2012

    Kburdic-- Length of hospital stay depends on time of suregry, how complex, if any complications arise, etc.  I had almost 3 days-- 2 is usually the norm. Be sure to look at  photos of your PS's work, My PS had names and contacts for some patients who were willing to share their reconstruction experiences and that helped me a lot. My left side was a prophy so I kept the nipple and areola-- the PS used the tissue to build a new nipple on the right and then I had an areola tatoo done as the last part of reconstruction.  My BS said no to a nipple sparing on the DCIS side because it was too widespread.  Not all drs. do or recomend the nipple graft-- it can become necrotic, some don't like the idea of keeping any  tissue at all. They do biospy the tissue behind the nipple and if it comes back with cancerous cells, they take it off.  Ask your PS what are the other options for building a  nipple. Some women just go with 3D tatoos.  My nipple looks real-- but it does look permenanently erect! As to post-recon satisfaction-- there are so many levels of satisfaction and dissatisfaction, as you'll see on these boards. It also will change over time. At first you'll just focus on the scars-- they fade. Without clothes you'll be aware of the difference.  I let my PS talk me into going a size bigger than I was before the cancer-- now as I'm aging I kind of regret it-- they look fake to me (I have a very thin frame), but everyone else thinks they look great.  The TEs are uncomfortable and sometimes the implants are as well-- you'll need to get used to them, and really, I can't stress enough how helpful PT will be in the process.-Julie

  • crystalphm
    crystalphm Member Posts: 1,138
    edited January 2012

    One thing I did for "anxiety support" was purchase Bella ruth naperstek's Preparing for surgery...a CD I listened to whenever I felt myself getting upset.

    I did very poorly on the pain relievers, so I chose not to take them...and again, the CD helped me get through the rough places.

    Have or ask for stool softners!!! No one believes how constipating anesthesia and pain meds are!!!!

    I bought a few button down nightgowns and shirts for  my healing time...and I bought them a size or 2 larger.

    Wishing you the best...oh, and join the mastectomy threads for Jan, it can really help to see and talk to other women going through the same thing.

  • kburdic
    kburdic Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2012

    Thanks everyone for your  feedback this has really helped, I will look for the January surgery thread now.

  • thefuzzylemon
    thefuzzylemon Member Posts: 2,630
    edited January 2012

    I'm so sorry if this was already mentioned but I have to say it.....I was on morphine for the surgery and...without realizing what that does I would have liked a "heads up".

    I had severe constipation after I got home. You might consider asking for stool softeners during your hospital stay. I cannot explain how miserable that was...

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited January 2012

    I was in the hospital almost 3 days...2 nights. They showed me how to shower. Since then I've been showering myself. I wear a swimsuit bottom and pin the drain to it. I wash my hair myself...mostly using my left hand. The shower is over my head so I just let the water rinse the soap out. It's not that hard..and I never had anyone help me dress. I suppose I like privacy and independence. I know they say not to raise the arm above the head...I'm not sure why. I've been showering with the drain in...no one said not to.

    You might want to bring your own soaps and shampoo to the hospital. After my first shower in the hospital, I pretty much wore my own soft pj's.

  • SheChirple
    SheChirple Member Posts: 954
    edited January 2012

    Great advice so far.

    I would only add:  move everything in your house down to waste level or below for easy reach.  EVERYTHING.  Also, lighten everything you might want to get yourself.  Like buy quarts of milk instead of gallons.  Yes, a gallon of milk will be tough to lift for awhile.  Buy a supply of simple prepared foods you can heat and eat or unwrap and eat, at least 2 wks worth.  It is hard for some of us to let others wait on us hand and foot.  Being able to walk into the kitchen and grab yourself something is liberating.  Sounds silly, but true.

    Clothes that slip on, NOT overhead.  Loose clothes.  Multiples.  I didn't beleive this. I bought two flannel type shirts/nightgowns for around the house, and I had a couple of soft velour lounge outfits that zipped up the front.  I then realized I had no real tops to wear with them.  I ended up wearing jeans or sweat pants with my husbands button up shirts.  Not pretty, for sure.

    I bought a nice baseball/golf hat to wear between hair washings because, even when I was allowed to shower, it was just too much trouble, and hard to wash the hair with arms that don't go up that high.  If I had to go somewhere I'd throw on the hat.  I'm NOT a hat person, either. I hate baseball caps.  But, I wore one.  A lifesaver.  Showering with the drains is tough.  You need a hook or something to hang them on.  I had a shower hook and just slung them up over it.  I hated the fanny pack idea, just felt dirty to me. But, I felt tied down by the drains.

    Good luck to you.

    Oh, I didn't take much of anything to the hospital.  I stayed only one night, in the outpatient surgery suite.  I brushed my hair and teeth, was about all.  I mostly slept otherwise and didn't need anything.

  • kburdic
    kburdic Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2012

    Thanks so much for responding , one of the worse part of this is having to ask for help I am very independent and like it that way. So I will make sure I have lots of easy food and easy clothes.

  • cphealing
    cphealing Member Posts: 8
    edited January 2012

    Good luck with your surgery.  I had mine 8 weeks ago today.   I was so nervous anticipating it but you will get through one day at a time.   A very helpful suggestion I read on one of the board's here was to use a small stuffed animal under the seatbelt in the car.   That really helped when I was a passenger as well as I am still using it now as a driver.  That size of "cushioning" has felt easier for me to manuever with the seatbelt than a pillow.   Ditto to a lot of the other suggestions listed here.   My wedge pillow was invaluable - found mine at  bed bath and beyond and used a 20% off coupon that was floating around from the mail!!  I am very independent so asking for help wasn't easy.   People want to help and are just waiting for you to tell them what you need.   Lean on your friends and family.   Not the time to try and "do it all" yourself.

  • Lisa75
    Lisa75 Member Posts: 137
    edited January 2012

    kburdic - I am the same way. Its hard to ask for help.

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited January 2012

    Everyone's suggestions have been good.  I only have one or two to add.  My husband bought me a recliner chair before surgery, which I slept in for almost a week.  (I had a BMX, no recon, and went home the day of the surgery .)

    Here's my biggest suggestion: check out the most recent studies on SNB.  I had mine on April 22. The non-cancer side where they just removed the breast is almost completely back to normal.  I am still having some problems with the DCIS side, because they took out 7 nodes, and I now have a lifetime risk for lymphedema.  I have since read some studies suggesting that the removal of the nodes is not necessary.  I would explore that possibility with your doctor.  the only thing I regret is not discussing the possibility of not doing the SNB with my BS. 

    Love being flat, btw, but that's a personal choice.

    Alex 

  • kburdic
    kburdic Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2012

    Thanks  I iwll talk to my BS before my 1-24 date and  I have a very nice chair waiting for me .Smile

  • kburdic
    kburdic Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2012

    Thanks I will speak to my BS about the node and I have a nice chair waiting for me.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited January 2012

    On the drains and showering subject, I looped the drains by their tabs on a clean shoelace, tied the ends of the shoelace together, and wore it like a necklace.  This allowed me to take an effective shower without having to wear anything.

  • beckyv
    beckyv Member Posts: 18
    edited January 2012

    I had my bilateral mastectomy with T/E on 12//22/11.  My surgery was 6 hours long.  I spent one night in the hospital and was discharged early the next morning.  I thought that was very quick - but the quicker you get up and moving - the better you will feel (even though it doesn't feel like that at the time).  I didn't take anything to the hospital because I was not there long enough to need anything.  Most important is to have your house ready - everything in easy reach.  My husband and my college age children were wonderful and did all the cooking and cleaning - but I was able to do most things for myself after about 1 week - as long as no reaching was involved. I still don't do any heaving cleaning (scrubbing, or lifiting - but I can vacuum, do laundry and dust).   I could shower (I wasn't suppose to shower with the drains - so they were just modified showers) -but I was able to wash my own hair.  My drains came out at 15 days and 18 days - what a relief.  Everyone recovers differently - just stay positive and know you can do it like so many of us have already done.

  • kburdic
    kburdic Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2012

    Is that the normal time frame for drains to be in? Would someonebe able to work wiht the drains? My date is 1/24/12 m husband and I did a dry run yesterday with him helping wiht clothes- we did a massive food shop even stocked up on pet food .

  • TJP1071
    TJP1071 Member Posts: 66
    edited January 2012

    Stacyrose~~~Hope the surgery went well and you are home resting!  I am trying to make the choice myself between lumpectomy and mastectomy......DCIS 6cm nipple to chest wall.  Hard choice!

  • Lisa75
    Lisa75 Member Posts: 137
    edited January 2012
    I met with my surgeon today. looks like a lumpectomy is out... it stretches 12 cm from nipple to chest wall. I have this image in my mind of a straw with scattered cells. if only they could just unplug the straw. I hate to lose a boob. Frown
  • mpeaches
    mpeaches Member Posts: 155
    edited January 2012

    I had a single mastectomy, and didn't even stay in the hospital for one night.  If my surgeon had felt it was necessary I would have, but given a choice, I would much rather be someplace quiet!  I had very little pain, and did just fine on Lortab.  And, I opted to not have reconstructive surgery, and I am still (a year later) REALLY happy with that decision. 

    And even though it's hard for some of us to accept help, think about it in the reverse - we would want our friends to accept OUR help, right?  

    Huge healing purrs,

    Jenn

  • Iz_and_Lys_Mum
    Iz_and_Lys_Mum Member Posts: 126
    edited January 2012

    Kburdic, my drains were in for a week but should have been out after two days - it totally depends on how your body reacts. I see you are in today - good luck and good healing.



    TJP1071- there are some great threads where some of the girls talk through their decision making process. I had a choice to stop at the lumpectomy and have rads, or to go with a mx. I choose the mx because I didnt want to be looking over my shoulder for the rest of my life. My path report did show that there were more cancer cells knocking around, so Im really happy with my decision, just in case the rads didnt get them! Its a totally personal decision, good luck.



    Lisa75, so sorry to hear youve had that choice taken away :-(. Lots of love and hugs xxxxx

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