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  • FLwarrior
    FLwarrior Member Posts: 977
    edited December 2011

    Ok, I have a question for you ladies...What do you use to clean/disinfect your tub and toilet that isn't toxic?  Thanks in advance.

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited December 2011

    Good question FLW- has anyone tried the hand held steam cleaner devises? Thinking of getting one but would like to hear if anyone has one and how  you liked it.

  • SheriBell
    SheriBell Member Posts: 393
    edited January 2012
    Happy New Year everyone!  Has anyone heard that glycerin is bad?  My sis in law is insisting it is so bad for you but I have only heard good things.  My hubby has sensitive skin and that is the only soap he can use.  Additionally my aunt is a dermatologist and she prescribes things with glycerin in it - I think my sil is wrong.  Any comments apprectiated!Embarassed
  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited January 2012

    I don't know about glycerin SheriBell - hopefully someone else will chime in.

    A friend of mine suggested a book to read on alternative/complementary health to prevent bc or recurrence.  It is called Waking the Warrior Goddess  by Christine Horner, MD, FACS.  It is AWESOME so far.  I was able to get it at my local library.  I'm learning so much.  It's kind of overwhelming all the changes I want to make, so I'm just going to make a few little changes at a time to make it a gradual lifestyle approach.  I highly recommend the book - the only part I'm confused about is her recommendation for soy, as I had heard to avoid it.  From what I'm reading, it sounds like that is a controversial topic.  Any comments from y'all on this?   

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited January 2012

    There are people who feel strongly on both sides of the soy issue. The evidence on the good side is that Asian women have a lower incidence of BC and eat more soy than American women. Also they have a lower incidence of recurrence. One thing I have read is that some believe it s okay to eat soy if you have been eating it since adolescence, but if you haven't, you shouldn't start now. I have also heard women say their doctors said not to worry about soy in food, but not to eat tofu or soy milk and such. That is pretty much what my doc recommended. He said not to worry about a cup of miso soup once in a while, but not to switch to soy milk or tofu. I am avoiding where I can, but it's in everything.

  • saralmom
    saralmom Member Posts: 329
    edited January 2012

    LOVE this thread and so glad to find it!  I started changing out stuff in my environment right after diagnosis - glass storage containers, personal care products, no plastic in my kitchen - coffee maker, blender, etc., green household cleaners and detergents, stainless water bottles.

    I'm currently working on what to do with my cookware.  Thinking of going to all cast iron.  I'm worried about the old stainless I'm using not being safe.  I literally don't know what to buy brand-wise.  And can you use cast iron for boiling water and preparing soups, etc.  Or maybe Le Creuset enamel?  What would you guys say is your "dream" cookware set safety wise - even if it's a combo of different stuff? 

    Also, I saw a naturopath last month for the first time, and in lieu of a whole house water filter, she suggested under counter units at each sink, a filter for each shower head, and a bath ball for the tub.  It's on my list to do in 2012... 

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited January 2012

    I work for a water treatment company, but don't have anything in the house right now except a filter on the fridge where we get all our drinking water. I was asking in work about getting a whole house filter. To get a whole house reverse osmosis unit is the best thing to do, but quite expensive. He told me I could put a carbon tank on the whole house. That is what is on the fridge, a carbon filter. But he said that would get rid of chemicals that might be in the water, but might increase the chance of bacteria in the water at the sinks. I forget his explanation, but he thought a carbon tank for the whole house is relatively cheap and then an under sink filter at the sinks were an economical and really good solution. For what it's worth. Also, don't believe anyone who tries to sell you anything based on magnets. There is a company out there saying they can fix your water ths way, but it's not true. It doesn't do anything. At least according to the people I work with.



    Don't know about the cookware. I thought stainless steel was good? That is what I switched my Teflon for.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited January 2012

    Thanks Kay for the soy info and the water info - good stuff!  I'm going to keep reading on the soy and taking all info in!  

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited January 2012

    Oh and welcome Sara - I'm still looking into cookware options, too! 

  • michelleo13
    michelleo13 Member Posts: 342
    edited January 2012

    As far as I know, stainless cookware is good. It's the non-stick stuff you need to avoid.

  • capinva
    capinva Member Posts: 138
    edited January 2012

    just found this thread. Great thread. I have Lodge cast iron cookware and have been using it for 30 years. I still love it and the longer you use it the more seasoned it becomes so foods do not stick :) That has been my experience. I never put cast iron in the dishwasher either.



    I'm concerned about our well water. Need to look into getting a filter for the water. Already getting rid of the plastic dishes, got Pyrex for my birthday and use canning jars. We put out a garden every year and I always can our food.



    I keep hearing how sugar is bad. Does this include all sugar or sugar substitutes and processed foods. I try to make most of our food from scratch including cookies and cakes. What is bad about the sugar if taken in moderation.

  • SheriBell
    SheriBell Member Posts: 393
    edited January 2012

    Can we tawlk?  (Joan Rivers)  Let's talk about deoderant.  I know that anti-perspirant has that aluminum in it - I haven't found any that doesn't ahve that in it - does anyone JUST use deoderant with out the antipersperant in it?  I don't think I can do that!

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited January 2012

    Sheri I had to go without anti-perspirant when I went through radiation.  It was not easy at first but when things got a little smelling I would use hand sanitizer or antibacterial wipes.  I found the longer I went without anti-perspirant the less smelly I became.  Now I don't have a problem.  Sometimes in the summer I might reaply my deodorant at lunch.  Normal times I will reaply when I change into my workout clothes just for a little more protection.  I have been using Tom's and I like it but will be trying the Melaluca one soon.

  • SheriBell
    SheriBell Member Posts: 393
    edited January 2012

    Hey Sherry - thanks for the info.   The Melaleuca deoderant smells so nice and fresh but I just feel so weird without the antiperspirant component.  I have both right now (deoderant only and anti-perspirant/deoderant)   Especially with my hot flashes - I don't think I smell bad (I also use baby powder) but it just feels weird to be wet.  

  • Ceeztheday
    Ceeztheday Member Posts: 403
    edited January 2012

    saralmom- I use stainless steel pots, but I wanted a different frying pan. I bought a ceramic pan that has a non stick coating from Germany, but it is free of some of the bad stuff. Here is the amazon link. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004CSXMP6/ref=oh_o04_s00_i00_details

  • Ceeztheday
    Ceeztheday Member Posts: 403
    edited January 2012

    More about the frying pan...



    Product Features

    Utilizes greblon ceramic - an ultra-safe ceramic coating from germany which is 100% ptfe and pfoa free (no heavy metals or chemicals).

    Innovative textured pan surface delivers unprecedented non-stick performance without releasing harmful fumes or toxins at high temperatures.

    Features a scratch-resistant 100 percent ceramic coating that is super easy to clean.

    Made out of durable heavy-gauge pure aluminum with no heavy metals or harmful chemicals.

    Boasts a comfortable heat resistant silicon coated handle, and a magnetized induction stove safe base for rapid heat transfer.

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited January 2012

    I have gone back to using my casto iron skillets and now wonder why I ever quit using them in the first place.  I think because they are heavy but know I see it as just another little workout.

  • GramE
    GramE Member Posts: 5,056
    edited January 2012

    Hi everyone.   Couple of things asked above:

    Steam cleaner - at first it was great as it sort of "melted" old grime and dirt.   After a while it lost its appeal for me.   You must keep wiping when using it, so a third hand would be a good idea...

    Glycerin -   many years ago the doctor said to use only glycerine on chapped nipples from breast feeding.   Not sure if this has changed in more recent years.   Gycerine can be eaten or taken by mouth, so may not be as toxic as some moisturizers.  I know I would never eat a glob of hand lotion !!!

    Toms is the best brand of non aluminum deodorant  I have found and use.   Corn starch instead of baby powder, as it can also be "eaten".    

    I think there is something odd about the temperature of enamel cook ware - like it does not transfer heat evenly, but could not find anything definitive.    

    If you get food stuck in/on your cook ware, cookie sheets, etc -- use a metal spatula to scrape off the worst parts before scrubbing.   I was amazed how much can be removed this way.  

    Non toxic cleaner for tubs -- baking soda.   Also for cleaning glass coffee pots, stainless sinks.   Make a paste with water and use a plastic scrubber - one place I do not hesitate to use plastic.

    Toilet bowl cleaner - baking soda and vinegar on your toilet brush.   vinegar is a deodorizer of sorts.     

    Black scuff marks on floor tile or linoleum -- put on a pair of rubber soled shoes and "scuff" over it.     

    Keep the ideas coming.    

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited January 2012

    I found the Toms deodorant to not work well. I stopped using it all together and now just wipe my pits a few times a day. No one has complained so far LOL

    I buy reverse osmosis water from the health food store. It is only 39 a jug if you refill your own. I transfer mine to a crystal decanter so I feel special every time I pour a glass.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited January 2012

    Sheribell - I have the same concern about going without antiperspirants...sweating and having big wet areas under my arms is not appealing!  I haven't made the switch...working on food first!  Baby steps...

  • SheriBell
    SheriBell Member Posts: 393
    edited January 2012

    I don't know if I will ever go completely anti=perspirant free but I have been using deodorant with just a little antiperpirant. Kinda use a little of both.

     Another question - what about pampered chef stoneware - like the pizza stone. Is that pretty safe?  Also from what I am reading- non-stick=bad  is that correct - so just use plain stainless steel?

  • GramE
    GramE Member Posts: 5,056
    edited January 2012

    This link about everyday toxins may be of interest to some of you:

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2005/02/19/common-toxins.aspx 

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited January 2012

    Someone asked about laundry soap a while back...I am using Ecos. 

    http://www.ecos.com/ecosliquid.html#spec

    I get it at Costco.  I am also in the process of looking into changing cleaning solutions.  Just the thought of not bleaching things like kitchen surfaces and bathroom makes me feel like there will be bacteria all over...ewwww!  I have been using "greener" cleaning products but I have not researched that yet.  I will let you know what I find out once I read about it.

    As far as cookware - I got rid of all non-stick pans except one small pan for eggs only.  I don't eat eggs often so I am not going to worry about it.  I use stainless and also enameled type cookware (Chantel) and I have some Le Crueset and cast iron skillets.  I also changed to XOX brand cooking utensils and wooden spoons.  XOX is BPA free at least and it is plastic so it won't scratch my enamel cookware.  I got rid of plastic containers and use Anchor Hocking glass containers with BPA free plastic lids.  I love them and want to buy even more of them for freezing foods.  These containers are microwave safe and oven safe too.  I am also considering a water filtration system.  I have not looked into that yet...it's on my 2012 plan!  As far as sugar - my naturopath said agave, Stevia and honey are OK.  I don't bake with sugar...just agave, honey and stevia.   I still try to keep things low on the sweet side when I bake.  For deodorant I am using Nature's Path.  That has worked well for me and I exercise a lot.  I have tried a few others with not much success.  I just bought all new organic make up and face creams that a

    re chemical free.

    I love this website:

    www.cincovidas.com

    It has lots of good articles about what to avoid in body care products, cleaning products, etc...

    For BPA free canned food - Pomi Tomatoes come in cartons and Eden Organics has BPA free cans.  All the other organic canned products have BPA lined cans.....kind of defeats the purpse of organic once you put it in a can lined with chemicals.

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited January 2012

    It is so depressing to find the organics are in BPA lined cans. Thanks for the info wasn't aware. Here I have been paying extra for organics, yet getting poison from the can.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited January 2012

    mdg, thanks for all the excellent tips!

  • SheriBell
    SheriBell Member Posts: 393
    edited January 2012

    What time of the day do you work out?  I've been entertaining the idea of getting up llike at 5am and get the workout in before dawn.  I work full time and have 3 kids.  I need advice!  I have gained 30 lbs from last year during diagnosis, surgery, chemo..etc..  I have loads of excuses!

  • michelleo13
    michelleo13 Member Posts: 342
    edited January 2012

    When I'm working I get up at 6 a.m. and work out before the kids get up. It's the only time I can fit it in. I need to get back into the habit of doing that again before I go back to work in the spring.

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited January 2012

    I quit my job a few months ago so now I workout after I drop my son off at school.  When I worked FT I taught aerobics on Monday at 5:30pm (crock pot dinner ready to go when I got home) and Saturday morning at 9am.  We all went to the gym on Sunday mornings as a family.  I tried to get there 2 mornings a week before work around 7am.  I had flexible work hours as I was in sales and did not work from an office.  It is definately hard to juggle the workouts with a job and kids. 

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited January 2012

    I work out right after work, but I don't have any children.  Our facility has childcare so many of my friends with children have their children go to that while they work out. 

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited January 2012

    I work out right after work.  Either Yoga or walking.  My kids are grown so I don't have that issue any longer.  Last year during treatment I was up early every morning going my eliptical but then I got so exhausted during rads I had to quit and I have never gotten back into that habit.  I know have such a hard time getting up in the mornings.

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