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  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited January 2012

    As for my tx #2, not too bad. I feel a little sluggish, or heavy. It was a later day for me - onc appt at 1, chemo didn't start until about 2:30 and went past 6. Given some of the recent experiences some of you and women on the taxotere/cytoxin thread had with their 2nd tax infusion, I mentioned it to my onc nurse and she slowed my drip (an hour and 15 minutes...). I ended up doing fine, so she'll speed it up next time. My stomach is a little heavy, but I suppose the burrito I ate on the way home may have something to do with that. Took a Zofran when I got back so that should help. Looking forward to resting up this weekend. I was really pleased at how thorough my onc was - going over every SE I had, checking my fingers, and making note of all the other things I experienced. She's mystified by the parallelogram pinkish/plum blotch on my stomach that appeared after my first neulasta shot. It doesn't itch, it's not red, I don't feel it, but it's stayed put. I'll just keep watching it.

    Good luck to everyone who had tx's today or are going tomorrow. 

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited January 2012

    Hi Baileybump I definitely had the wake up sweaty part. A couple of days ago I experienced terrible lower back pain that seemed to travel up my back the next day... It's okay now. Just taking Tylenol for the achiness, but I resorted to percocet that first day of pain.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited January 2012

    jeanne3, as well as the personal experiences and support you'll get here on the forums, there's more information about chemotherapy and the possible side effects of different medicines in the Chemotherapy Medicines section of the main Breastcancer.org site. Click the links to read about each medicine, and there are more links you may find helpful down the left side of that page.

    Welcome to BCO, and to this awesome group of December 2011 ladies. Smile

    Judith and the Mods

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited January 2012

    Jeanne3 The types of chemo and dosage depends on what "type" of breast cancer you have.  Different ones work better for different types.  They all have se's and everyone reactes differently. It just depends on stage, grade, hormone makeup. 

    I hope everyone is doing well.  Sounds like some of us are having a rough week.  Prayers, good thoughts and hugs to all.

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2012

    Good morning ladies, so sorry to hear so many having difficulty.



    Laurie i hope your count go back quickly, your great attitude has to help.



    Rachel brave girl eating the burrito! I can't remember the last time I ate something that sounds that good.



    Baileybump, I'm 53 and have been getting night sweats throughout treatment. Last tx my period restarted with a vengeance. Im hoping not to be revisited by that again, but the sweats continue. I do get sternum and back pain with the Nuelasta.



    Keepnfaith, my port site bleed upon removal last tx. Nurse said oh it should stop soon. Hey thanks. Your daughter sounds like wonderful support.



    Fsislander congratulations on your last AC. I hope you feel well and that taxol is easier for you. I had thrush last round and went into #3 with mouth sores. The onc nurse told my to start with the nystatin as soon as I felt any new mouth pain. I will take her advice.



    Gator Im so sorry you have had such a rough time. So glad to hear you're on the mend.


    markat sorry about the root canal. They're bad enough without having to go through treatment at the same time.



    Mardibra glad youre feeling a bit better. You're working too during treatment which has to be exhausting. Im hoping to return once I begin the Taxol There is no way I could have been working with the SEs I've had on AC. I don't feel emotionally ready yet either. I give those of you doing so my utmost admiration and respect.

    Moms with young children to care for the same. You're amazing.

    I hope wish everyone a good day and good thoughts and blessings. It's a great day in NJ 40+ degrees and sunny. Off for my Nuelasta shot soon.

    Laura

  • GracieG
    GracieG Member Posts: 118
    edited January 2012

    Helo Ladies.

    As I type this I'm just finishing up my second drip, then I'm out of here. Have had a good day, my blood work was great this morning and spent time with the onc going over all the SE's I had after my first tx. He's putting me on the Decadron anti fungal which I start tomorrow as a prevention against getting thrush again. Hope it works!

    Bailey bump - I haven't had any back pain, but have sure had the night sweats, have you been running any low grade fevers?

    Rachel - Glad your second tx was okay, hope you are feeling okay today.

    Market - So sorry about the root canal, hope you're feeling better.

    Gator - I am so sorry about your battle with the nausea, vent away. I had my own little pity party last night.

    Laurie - So very sorry about your WBC and hospital trips. That just plain sucks.

    Welcome to jenlee and jeanne3 - I'm so sorry for the reasons you had to join, but these women are great here for any questions you have and tons of support.



    Gentle hugs to all.

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2012

    GracieG my onc never mentioned such a drug to prevent thrush. I was using liquid nystatin. I hope this works for you.



    I'm curious to know if any ladies with mouth issues also had throat and esophagus problems? My throat gets worse in the evening and many nights I lose my voice. The onc said that can happen with AC.



    I sure hope taxol does not pose the same.



    I go early in the morning, 8:30. Wonder if the time of day has any impact on SEs. Just grasping at straws I suppose.



    thanks for letting me vent.



    Laura



  • keepnfaith
    keepnfaith Member Posts: 39
    edited January 2012

    I haven't gotten any sores yet but I have had a lot of burning in the mouth and throat. I am also having issues with my voice. It's coming and going, some days better than others.
  • GracieG
    GracieG Member Posts: 118
    edited January 2012

    Laura - You made me go check my persciption bottle.  The correct name of the drug he prescribed is Diflucan.  Sorry about the first name I put down!  He prescribed after I had thrush after the first treatment and when I told him it took 4 days before it was any better he told me to start taking this tomorrow and for the next 2 weeks to hopefully prevent it.  

    I haven't had any problems with my throat or voice, well I couldn't speak very well when I had thrush, I'm sure my husband didn't have a problem with this!  But my chemo cocktail is Taxotere and Cytoxan.   

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited January 2012

    Ever since starting chemo, i have had the night sweats bad.  Recently woke up soaked in sweat and had to change the bedding...it was that bad.  Recently, ive been experiencing temperature swings during the day.  Nothing fever related, but my fear is chemo is throwing me into early menopause.  Im 45 and didnt expect this for a while yet.  So, other than the sweating, nausea, and fatigue that is about all I have experienced so far.  But, im prepared for more given the fact that the effects are supposed to be cumulative.  Also, next week is my last AC and then I move onto Taxol.  Im told i will not receive the Nulasta shot with Taxol.  I have been lucky and have not experienced any bone pain with the Nulasta like some ladies.  Plus, my blood work has been really good so I assume Nulasta is doing its job.  I was reminded today of the need to drink drink drink lots of water.  At the end of a meeting as I stood up to leave, i got really dizzy.  Scary dizzy. Was scared of driving home.  But, I had also been really thirsty all day so Im going to attribute the dizziness to bad hydration. 

    Im so sorry for you ladies who are having such horrible SE's.  My heart truly breaks for you and honestly, makes me feel a little guilty that I seem to be having and ok time of it so far.  Chin up gals....we will be done with this soon.

    Christine

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2012

    Keepnfaith, glad you haven't had to deal with any mouth sores. The burning is uncomfortable enough.



    Gracie thank you for letting me know about the diflucan. I may ask about that instead of the nystatin.

    Sounds like the cytoxan is the common denominator.



    Mardibra the night sweats are just so inconvenient. I create more laundry sleeping than awake.



    I have been padding my bed with extra towels or blankets so I dont have to change the entire bed. It's chilly too waking like that.



    And you're right about the water. I have to really force it down sometimes, but well worth it. Hope you continue to do well.



    Goodnight all,



    Laura

  • Baileybump
    Baileybump Member Posts: 172
    edited January 2012

    Rachel - I'm "this close" to having something spicy like a burrito.  I'm afraid of mouth sores (happy I haven't had any), but craving spicy food.  Maybe next week.  ;-) 

    I am fortunate to be able to work through my treatments (taxotere/cytoxan), but do not know how anyone chemo with children.  Bless each one of you!  I truly admire mothers.  My husband, dogs and cats are okay with me hanging on the couch all evening and sleeping in on the weekends.

    Mardibra - I have temperature changes during the day, too.  I am especially warm for the first few days after chemo (or Neulasta).  My Chief Operating Officer walked into my office on Tuesday (fan blowing on high) and said, "you just had a treatment last week, didn't you?"  LOL.  This cold weather is PERFECT for me!

    Have a great weekend, everyone.  I'm looking forward to a family gathering and pork/sauerkraut tomorrow night (we postponed New Year's one week because of treatment - - good idea!)

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited January 2012

    Seacret have you tried chewing on ice during your TX. I chew on ice during taxotere and haven't gotten any sores yet...just raw gums.



    I think I may be starting chemopause. I'm late and am having hot flashes. Hot flashes at 30! Who would have thought!



    I'm posting from my phone so it's hard to catch up on all the posts. Hope everyone is doing good!

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited January 2012

    Baileybump - I hope I'm not instigating a run on burritos! It wasn't spicy - while I haven't lost my taste, I have found that some modestly spicy foods taste very spicy to me now. 

    I survived my Neulasta self-injection. I got really tired after dinner (heavy Italian tonight - I nixed my boyfriend's suggestion of Chinese, just because of all the take-out I've had, that's more often than not likely to make me feel like I came down with a twinge of food poisoning), slept partially through the episode of Monk that we watched (I'm starting to feel like Monk myself, with all this hand-sanitizer, wiping down doorknobs and computer keyboards at work - we all share computer stations and the radio/production boards. Ack!!!), but now that I sat down to catch up, I'm awake again. But it's time for sleep. Good going for all today's tx's. I'll catch up more tomorrow. I'm sleeping and resting away this weekend, for sure. 

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2012

    Markat yes I've been chewing ice and the last tx had cup of ice and 3 ice pops. Nearly 20 minutes of cold mouth. Already habpve a sore throat but hoping to have kept the mouth sores at bay.



    I'm so sorry about the hot flashes. It's just amazing how hormones rule our lives. I had been eating flax seed for years to keep hotbflashes and night sweats away while I approached menopause. I have to wonder now if that was a contributing factor with the bc. So much controversy regarding phytoestrogens. All I know is once I stopped in Sep. I got my period again after a year, night sweats returned and I've had another horrendous period av free starting chemo.



    Please forgive my rant, I've been up all night, steroids, and nulasta headache.



    Laura

  • snobordkykmom
    snobordkykmom Member Posts: 33
    edited January 2012

    Baileybump, On the back pressure thing.  Closest for me was when I was up and moving around and my hip/back area just kinda throbbed, couldn't sit. And then it felt like it "bubbled" up my spine like a slinky right to my head. Did this a couple of times. Head kinda pulsed for a little bit. Lasted about an hour for me.  Very creepy weird.  I blamed it on the Neulasta, too though I had been snowboarding the day before, so. . . .

  • snobordkykmom
    snobordkykmom Member Posts: 33
    edited January 2012

    Morning to all.  Have taken a few days off, but back to the boards.  Hope all are having a pretty morning.  It's gorgeous here in NH, though no good snow yet.  

    Hanging in there. Second AC went well.  I think I am scaring my co-workers with my "Squirrel Crack" buzz on Decadron, so I skipped the second dose on day 2 and 3 after.  Actually got some sleep last night.  Much better, less crazed.

    I missed the night sweats and hot flashes going through menopause, thankfully since I am always warm anyway.  My winter sweaters are three quarter sleeve T-shirts. Do NOT want them to pop up ever.  You ladies dealing with that get my biggest shoulder rub, bear hug!

     The sore mouth and no voice ladies---OHH another nightmare for me.  Saying my prayers on those!  Can't be a children's librarian with no voice and sore mouth.   

    Keep drinking, whatever you can.  Prunes are still my friend, BIG time. Food is  a crazy obsession with me now. I can't eat much at a time, but feel like I need to eat non-stop.  Waking up at 2 AM to raid the fridge is just bizarre!!  Jello, chickenwalnutcranberry wraps, oh my!!.

    Spent last evening with a dear friend from work going through 5th time BC.  Oh I love her!  We are so different, but share a heart in so many ways.  We tried on head coverings, honestly critiqued them, oh boy.  She ate my experimental chicken/spinach lasagna, and we just compared notes.

    I wish I could take a little of all of your SE's for a bit, so you could have a bit of breathing space.This farmer body is not giving up the fight and for some reason the AC and Neulasta are not too bad.  The hair is falling like leaves though, so hubby says at least we know they are giving me the real stuff, not a placebo. 

    HUGS to all.   

  • keepnfaith
    keepnfaith Member Posts: 39
    edited January 2012

    Good morning ladies!

    Fatigue seems to be my biggest SE around this time. Finally shaved my head last night. I shed a few tears but all in all it wasn't so bad. It feels so much better and there's no more mess reminding me. I just need to get use to seeing myself in a mirror now.

    Hope everyone is having a good day.

  • Terry71
    Terry71 Member Posts: 293
    edited January 2012

    Hi ladies, hope everyone has been doing fairly well.... Hot flashes wow Yup I had those real bad when I was getting my chemo also, I too woke up soaked and thought OMG this is crazy, Chemopause YUP!! Grrrrr and talk about cotton head cant spell, thinking was a problem haha, rubber legs, and Ohh the Neuropathy was and still is Horrid.... My friend called the cotton head oldpeopleitis disease LOL I had thrush too and found that Lysterine ZERO mouthwash, No Alcohol helped alot.. I had nystatin and it did nothing and burned my mouth, also had nyrocc #3 and that didnt work either AND also causes the BIG "D"...... when I was on Decadron DH said I was like minnie mouse on Perks hahahaa gotta love em right?? My obsession with hand sanitizer, Lysol antibacterial has subsided a bit, still leary at times.... I will tell you it does get better and the SE's do GO AWAY around the 3rd week after LAST treament... I still get mild hot flashes and sweats but I am told herceptin does that.....I am 7 weeks out from my last one, hair is coming back, its funny as It seems to come back in the reverse direction of male pattern baldness, around the back first, then the sides and front but looks like I have a receading hairline and a bald spot on top HAHAHA, that did fill in though, and wow it is coming back DARK......  Stay postive my friends, and SMILE.... we are SURVIVORS

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited January 2012

    Thanks, Terry. Always great to hear from those who made it through. I was just joking about my new addiction to handwashing and hand sanitizers... I spray cleaning fluid on the keyboards at work every other day, much to my coworkers' amusement. Good luck with your continued comeback!

  • GracieG
    GracieG Member Posts: 118
    edited January 2012

    Terry, thank you so much for sharing your story and how we will all make it through. Very encouraging to read.



    I had a meltdown last night from all the steroids I believe. I could not stop crying. Could.Not.Stop.

    They gave me extra so I wouldn't have another reaction to the Taxetore, and I just lost it when I got home. Plus every time I had to blow my nose I had a nose bleed, I think that may be from the Cytoxin. I finally took an Ativan and it did calm me down. I think I will take one the morning of my next treatment and see if that helps. no sleep for me last night, I was still wired up, so got up super early and was the first one there for my Neulasta shot.

    Rachel, I take Claritin for a few days after the Neulasta, just to be on the safe side and figure it can't hurt!

  • Terry71
    Terry71 Member Posts: 293
    edited January 2012
    You are more than welcome and YES you's will make it through, keep telling yourself, I can do this, and after each one only 3 more, 2 more 1 more and DONE....  Gracie- Its OK to cry I did it often and sometimes I still do, then I put on my big girl panties, pull them up and tell myself I GOT THIS, Nose bleeds yes I have a friend Allie who had the same happen to her, No worries its a SE.... stay strong my girls Smile YOU SHINE BIG hugs to you xx
  • RachelsLife
    RachelsLife Member Posts: 16
    edited January 2012

    Hi all - I haven't posted for a while because between treatment, my 4 young kids, and an attempt to work (struggling with that), I just collapse at the end of the day too tired to type... but I do read everyone's posts, and I really appreciate the feeling that I am not alone!!

    I did want to ask anyone doing TAC every 3 weeks - is it crazy to think that towards the end of treatment I could take a test, or will my brain be completely fried by then? I am a military reservist, and to get promoted I have to take a series of tests by Jun -- I have 6 left and my thought was that I could sign up to take one the day before each treatment (that would give me maximum healing time). It looks good on paper, but before I commit I was hoping that someone who is farther along than I am on TAC (I've only had 1 treatment) could tell me if the side effects last longer (I know they get cumulatively worse.. I'm just hoping I'll be OK by the 3rd week after each treatment..).

    Sorry for the long question - I'm just a planner and I need to lay some things out for the next few months... of course, BC does not lend itself well to planning...

    Thanks!

    Rachel

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2012

    Sno, you're such a doll offering to take away others SEs. Your energy gives me hope! I have to say even after 2-3 hours of shakey sleep last night, I was able to take advantage of this amazingly mild NJ weather and go for a nice walk. Really lifted my spirits. Especially after opening my mail and finding that ins covered 20,000 of the 62,000 that the out of network surgical center my surgeons use (and own). They discussed their fees but neglected to add that factor.



    Terry thank you for your encouraging posts. So glad your hair is growing back. And I will look for the listerine zero.



    Gracie the steroids do a number on me too. I was so tempted to ask them to reduce them last tx, but am more afraid of the nausea now. I did skip my very last dose on day 2 and will again today. The dr told me that was ok.



    Rachel I can't keep enough hand sanitized wipes and even gloves around. It might sound extreme, but I think in would even don a mask if I was in a too close for comfort situation. Like my primary Drs office.



    Ok ladies, be well and hope you will have a mild SEs or none!

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited January 2012

    Rachelslife - I just had my second treatment, so I'm not much farther ahead than you. Are you doing Taxol or Taxotere? So far, I'm doing fine. Except for a fever 7 days in, I have avoided most of the SEs. And by the end of my first three weeks, I felt like I was pretty much back to normal, just with the paranoia of staying away from germs. Supposedly the SEs can have a cumulative effect, so there's no saying what you'll be like around tx 5 or 6, but maybe go with your plan for the next tx or two and see how it goes. I'd say the best thing is to keep living your life (short of making expensive plans or other commitments that could be bad to break), and if you have to adjust, you will. The more we can try to be and act normal, I personally think the better we all feel. I'm looking forward to playing in the orchestra for Pirates of Penzance next weekend and the weekend after that - will I make all the shows? No clue, but they're willing to cut me some slack.

    Good luck! 

  • RachelsLife
    RachelsLife Member Posts: 16
    edited January 2012

    Thanks rachelvk! I think you're right - I'll set the plan in place for my sanity, and be prepared to roll with changes if necessary.

     I think it is cool that you play in an orchestra - I have no musical talent whatsoever, but I love to listen :)

     Rachel

  • heatherb8
    heatherb8 Member Posts: 263
    edited January 2012

    Hi Ladies..first time I've posted on this thread..but I see some of my fellow chemo friends from the other Dec group..So thought I would join over here as well..I finished my second treatment Dec 27..3rd one due Jan 16, 4th and FINAL Feb 6th..if all goes as planned!  After my first treatment I did not receive the neulasta shot and ended up with an all inclusive 4 day/3 night stay in the hospital  due to neutropinic fever..I certainly do not recommend it..nasty IV antibiotics..so beware of the fever!  Had mouth sores the first time too,, didn't get them the second time..Got the neulasta after the second treatment and it did it's job..no fever, no hospital..I too am dealing with a bit of night sweats, but seems as if my periods did stop this month..after my first treatment two days later I started my period..talk about insult to injury..awful.  And those steriods...man they make me so irritable and mean..I really hate them..

    I'm glad I found you ladies too as the other group..it really helps for me to be able to get real with ladies who totally understand.  So I thank you all for sharing your feelings, side effects, etc.

    Hope you all have a great Sunday!

    Heather

  • laurieloomis
    laurieloomis Member Posts: 43
    edited January 2012

    Hi girls..it's been awhile since I've checked in.  It's been so odd:  was in hosp for 2 liters of fluids, my WBC is 168! Can you say Neutropenia,  YIKES!  Germ X , gloves, masks and housebound are my life!  The neulasta never worked except today I woke up with back pain, leg aches and a itchy rash all over my back.  My 2nd A/C is this Thurs and I haven't talked to the Dr about the WBC..I hope I'm still on schedule.  The other thing is I'm Starving!  I can't seem to get enough to eat!  I said to hell with the quarantine and we went out for a huge spaghetti & meatball dinner last night.  YUM!   Ok, enough of my complaining.

    Terry..thank you so much for sharing your survival story and YES we will ALL be survivors too!

    Heather....welcome!  You're half way there Laughing  May the next two go smoothly with limited SE's

    Hope this finds you all feeling well.   (((HUGS))) and prayers

    Laurie

  • Terry71
    Terry71 Member Posts: 293
    edited January 2012

    heatherb8 - LOL I know what ya mean abut the steroids, did I ever ROID RAGE, my poor DH and son Im so thankful they didnt pack up and move far far away haha..... Im so glad they are done and I dont need them anymore whewww... Im no pro and not a dr or professional by any means but hubby is the information highway and loves looking things up. If anyone has any wuestions feel free to ask I am here and will help any of you the best I can... BIG HUGS ladies xx

  • snobordkykmom
    snobordkykmom Member Posts: 33
    edited January 2012

    RachelsLife-- For me I find if I have a plan, no matter whether it will work or not, it is better than no plan and doing a total wait and see. A changed plan at least is a plan. 

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