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  • keepnfaith
    keepnfaith Member Posts: 39
    edited December 2011

    Having a very emotional day today. Woke up nauseated, quickly took my Zofran but been a weeping mess since. Everything is making me cry. This is not who I want to be! Glad everyone is still asleep or at work. I hate this.

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited December 2011

    Markat, my onc said stay away from beef and my husband wants me to eat like a monk, veges, brown rice, lots of beans, no wheat products, no cup a noodle, my fav, ughhhh

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited December 2011

    Seacret I take 2 but my onc nurses told me to try and take them as early as possible. So I took first 1 around 6 and second around 1 or 2. They are 4mgs.



    Keepn I'm sorry you are down today. That was me yesterday minus the nausea. Do you have a "happy" pill you can take.



    Naan that would suck! My onc said we would discuss diet and lifestyle changes after I completed chemo. I asked her about soy because I'm ER+ and that was her answer.

  • letsgogirls
    letsgogirls Member Posts: 3
    edited December 2011

    I was scheduled to begin Chemo on Dec 15 but my drain tube was not.  I finally got my drain tube out yesterday and plan to begin Dec 28.  I don't know what to expect and am nervous.

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited December 2011

    lets, what is your chemo schedule, what meds, how often?  There are a lot of ladies here who have started before u and also check out the Nov thread, they are a little more advanced then most of us here.  Any questions u have don't hesitate to ask.

  • letsgogirls
    letsgogirls Member Posts: 3
    edited December 2011

    I think you should cal your doctor and let them know how you are feeling.  They have meds that can help with that.  I know.... Believe me it is worth the call.  You need your strength to fight the disease not your emotions

  • letsgogirls
    letsgogirls Member Posts: 3
    edited December 2011

    I am to have an infusion every other week for four weeks of Doxorubicin and Cytoxan.  Then another infusion every other week for four weeks of Taxol.     Later will come radiation and oral meds.

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited December 2011

    Lets- welcome. If you see posts from the ladies about TAC or ACT then they would have a similar treatment to you.



    Best wishes! I'm on TCH.

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited December 2011

    Lets, I'll have Taxol before u so I'll let u know how it goes once I start, but the others is not my territory, but I'm sure there are others who have the same meds as u

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited December 2011

    Markat thank you. I think I will try that. I was going to skip the eve one but am nervous to do so.



    Keepnfaith I'm so sorry you're having such a tough day. What you're going through is life changing and you can't be expected to be strong all the time. The drugs influence your emotions as well.



    Yesterday was my breakdown day. Sobbed all day. It was cathartic though. I asked my family when I have those dark days to please remind me of the better ones. I've been keeping a journal too. And you can't get enough hugs. We all understand and are here for you.



    Letsgogirls, I'm sorry you have to be here but welcome. I'm sorry about your delay. I was delayed a week too and frustrated but remembered at the chemo class the nurse said sometimes things may interfere with treatment, but don't panic.



    Just a couple things that I think are helping (whether they are or it's a placebo effect I don't care).



    This infusion I asked for more saline at the end. I was not as out of it yesterday. Felt less dehydrated too.



    I have been making chia seed a daily part of my diet. Worked up to 3 tsps a day and I think it helps with the dread constipation and it's high in omega 3. Had to give up the flax seed. Chia can be added to all kinds of foods.



    Laura

  • Peacock
    Peacock Member Posts: 86
    edited December 2011

    I never had the chemo class, not sure why. What did you cover there? For one thing, I have been worried about delays or what happens if snow means i can't get there. Any insights?

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited December 2011

    Finally back to the land of the living! Sounds like everyone is having some ups and downs. I keep reminding myself that this won't last long. A few months is a small price to pay for the joy of the rest of my life.



    For our new ladies - it is doable. Hard but doable. We are all here to support each other.



    I met with a nutritionist after my first tx and she has me on a very high protein diet. Lots of red meat, eggs, nuts, etc. interesting that others are being told the opposite. Hmmm. Gaining weight is not fun. However, like someone said earlier I will detox from drugs and food when I'm done with chemo.



    Happy thoughts to all.



    Christine

  • laurieloomis
    laurieloomis Member Posts: 43
    edited December 2011

    LAURA  Thanks for the tip about extra saline, I will definitely ask for that when I go for my first tx on Thurs.

     MARCIA  The chemo class I went to was given by one of the onc nurses, she gave me sort of a general rundown on how the drugs(A/C) were given and some side effects..honestly I get more info from the ladies here because they tell it like it is, which I'm so thankful for!  I think it's hard for the nurses to go into detail because everyone reacts differently.  How are you holding up?

    CHRISTINE  Welcome back, glad things are going better for you!

    Busy week coming us..Dr appt, wig buying, and "the chair" on Thurs.

    Happy Holidays and a minimal s/e weekend for all.

    Positive thoughts and hugs

    Laurie

  • Peacock
    Peacock Member Posts: 86
    edited December 2011

    Hi Laurie,

     I see you're in NH so snow delays must be a real possibililty. I am trying to understand what we do if there's a snow day -- or what qualifies as a snow day. We had a bad winter in NJ last year and this year -- already -- the schools have used up their days. I guess it's out of my control, but I'd like to keep on schedule as much as I can before snow gets in the mix!

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited December 2011

    Snow. Ugh. We have had such a mild winter so far that I'm afraid we are going to get slammed in January, February, march. I manage to get myself to work when it snows so I guess I will find my way to "the chair"?



  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited December 2011

    Darlam - You truly are gifted. That was a great piece of writing.

    Keepnfaith and Seacretgardn - I'm sorry you've haved really down days. I hope the holidays can be a bright spot for you. Having friends and family remind you of better times is a great idea - and also start thinking now of the things you're looking forward to trying and doing when all this is done.

    Mardibra - Glad things are a little better. 

    Day 11 and I really do feel almost back to normal, although the tips of my thumbs are dry and starting to crack. That's not unusual for the winter, but I'm dreading it this year because I know it will be worse this year. Got my sleeping cap and wig liners in the mail... hair halo is on back order!

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited December 2011

    Hi ladies, steroid or Nuelasta headache and can't sleep. Might be a long one!



    Peacock, hi, yes after last winter in NJ the weather has weighed heavily on my mind. I get my txs on Thursdays in Ridgewood, (not at Valley Hospital) and asked what would happen in the case of snow. They remain open unless there is a state of emergency. They are not open on the weekend. I was told that happened only once in many years. To ease your mind you might want to discuss things with your onc. The chemo class was given by a nurse at St Barnabus. Very in-depth about side effects and self care but you are correct, the ladies here do have more to offer. I have to say though the new onc office gave me a print out of possible SEs, I get more info from Rite Aid with an antibiotic!



    Mardibra glad to hear your're regaining strength. Was it mostly terrible fatigue?



    Today was day two and period was frighteningly heavy. (seems I am one of the unusual menopausal woman who chemo brings it back for, lucky me) I was told by the nurse I would have

    to go to the ER if soaking through hourly. I was probably making things worse by being on my feet all day and finally hit the couch in hopes of slowing things down. Better now.



    I don't know anything about banking blood, or the possibility of having a relative donate blood but I think I may look into that.



    Rachel glad to hear you feeling better too. I hate the dry winter fingertips. I used to use heavy creams,etc, but what I find the best is to use a gentle emery board and "sand them down" when they're dry before they crack. Don't do this if they've already opened though. I was also going to inquire about the "liquid bandaid". As careful as I try to be, I always seem to have some little nick on my hands. And washing them every 5 minutes makes bandaids impractical.



    And the same for feet too!



    On a good note I'm so happy my daughter is home from college! My living room was filled with her stuff but the house felt normal for the first time in months. This was her first semester away and I missed her presence here so much! Even the dog was celebrating.



    Ok, maybe some tea will help me to sleep, hope so.



    Laura

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited December 2011

    I guess we are "lucky" that it's winter and we can wear our hats and wigs semi comfortably, but I sure wouldn't mind being on a beach through all of this.



    I feel a cold coming on...grrr. How does that work? Will I be able to get my tx Wednesday with a cold?

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited December 2011

    Secret - not so much fatigue this time but it was the nausea. Didn't have any nausea on the first tx. Compazine and zofran are my new best friends. Glad for you (and the dog) that your daughter is home. Have some fun together!



    Markat - told my friends and family that when this is all done we are going on a trip. Warm and tropical sounds fantastic!



    Christine

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited December 2011

    Oh, I was told you can receive chemo with a cold as long as you don't have a fever.

  • keepnfaith
    keepnfaith Member Posts: 39
    edited December 2011

    Woke up feeling more like myself today. Whew....

    No, I don't have any "happy" pills but have decided if the down days are going to be more often than not, I may have to talk to someone about it. I think it's just the season.

    Christmas has always been a big deal to me. My mother had always done it big...and I'm not talking about gifts, but family. It seemed no matter what was going on we always came together for Christmas. Spats, differences, forgotten and forgiven. I have tried to carry it on among my family. I have felt more like an observer than a participant this year and I believe that is what finally got me yesterday.

    I also have a problem with control. I have always been the one to keep my household running, keep up with everyone, be there when needed. Now I'm the one relying on everyone else. Asking for help is so difficult for me. I feel like a burden. Yep, I was having a big old pity party for myself.

    I appreciate you all for the encouragement and understanding. I value the advice.

    markat:

    I started my chemo with a sinus infection. I have been put on antibiotics for three weeks. As long as there's no fever you should be okay. Everyone around me has gotten sick with bronchitis, sinus infections, etc. I feel much safer with the medication. 

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited December 2011

    Thanks ladies that makes me feel better.



    Keepn I'm glad you're feeling better. I feel like the board pill pusher, but the nerve pill has really helped get me through this.



    I still have my mother and mother in law hovering all over me so I've been lucky and don't have to worry about being in control of anything.



    Why did I volunteer to have Christmas Eve? Must have been chemo fog.

  • Gator65
    Gator65 Member Posts: 72
    edited December 2011

    Hi Ladies,

    Yesterday was my big meltdown day. I feel so ugly. My scalp is so tender that I cannot wear the wig and the scarves/hats hurt as well. I cannot sleep worth a damn cause what is left of my porcupine hair pokes me.  My skin has no color and my lips looks bloodless, I put makeup on and I look like a clown. I cannot win.

    I realize this is temporary, but it really sucks!!!!!

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited December 2011

    I'm sorry Gator. It REALLY SUCKS! I haven't buzzed mine yet, but will by Monday at the latest. My scalp is sore. DD keeps telling me it'll grow back but that's not consoling me right now. offered to buzz hers too, which was sweet but not necessary.



    I hope today gets better for you.

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited December 2011

    Gator - i hear ya with the porcupine pain.  Its uncomfortable to say the least.  I had to wear Esmarelda all last week at work which was uncomfortable because of the stubble.  Not sure if the wig accelerated the hair loss or not, but its almost all gone "around the edges".  It has made sleeping and Esmarelda wearing much easier.  Im now wearing my "baseball hat with fake hair attached" get up.  Much more comfortable than Esmarelda until all the hair is gone.  You deserve a melt down....its necessary and theraputic.  All of us deserve a good cry now and again.

    Im off to the supermarket to pick up a few final things for a dinner tonight.  Off to my Moms tomorrow.  Im hoping to see my nephews but expecting my ex-sister-in-law (unaffectionately known as "dbag") to do what she normally does and disappear with the kids.  Custody orders mean nothing to her. 

    Happy thoughts to all.

    Christine

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited December 2011

    Happy holidays to all and a healthy prosperous new year too



    All u north east coast ladies wish I can invite u all here to sunny southern CA. It was so nice and warm today felt like spring, took a long walk to the park, wish u gals could've joined me! Hoping for better weather in the northern states!

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited December 2011

    Sounds beautiful Naan. Would've loved some warm weather, although it was a pretty day in NJ.



    Hope you all don't mind while I reflect a bit here.



    During the first 14 years of marriage, Christmas Eve was spent w my husbands large Italian family, great food, great fun. When my marriage ended 16 years ago, I took it pretty hard. First couple years while my young kids went w their dad, I went to various relatives, but always felt like out of place, so made it my own tradition to spend this night as I wished, church service, wrapping gifts, or just time to reflect.



    This Christmas Eve was a little different, 3 days post tx, not feeling well, and spent most of the day very quiet, in hopes of stopping this very heavy period, no! I did not want to include an ER visit as part of my Christmas Eve memories.



    So my oldest daughter opted to stay home. She baked cookies, the first sweets I've eaten in almost two months, haven't wanted any. And we had the most amazing, conversations. Conversations that 3 months ago, weren't even remotely touched upon. Now, surreal, but so real.



    Seeing this level of depth, maturity and grace that my daughter possesses, has given me a gift of such peace, and I am grateful.



    My younger daughter came home later w the traditional "bag o gifts" from their grandmother and we laughed at the silly, albeit, wasteful gifts that their dear grandmother indulges on them. (21 and she still gets a yearly barbie). She then modeled her sherbet-colored sweatsuit. Even cleaned up after her sisters baking extravaganza.



    I want to thank God for this Christmas Eve, and thank you ladies who are a tremendous support.



    Many blessings to all this day,



    Laura

  • Peacock
    Peacock Member Posts: 86
    edited December 2011

    Today, Christmas, is day 3 of the AC cycle, so I'm crashing hard. It's great to spend time with my kids, but the contrast between this holiday and past years is difficult -- I wish it were just another Sunday, when it wouldn't be so weird that Mom (me) is on the couch all day. Some family members will come here for about an hour, and then we'll kind of call it a day. It's a day when I miss my old life badly, before cancer.

    I have good family members, including a great brother and his family, a supportive mother and stepfather. So they will, I hope, see past the patchy hair and cluttered house to find that I'm still here, still me, even tho it doesn't look that way.

     Enjoy the holiday, all. This board is invaluble to me, esp in the dark night when I wake up and worry.

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited December 2011

    Good morning ladies. I hope everyone had a great holiday. Mine was very nice but exhausting. Today I'm going to clean up all the mess and prepare for my tx Wednesday.

  • Whatashocker3
    Whatashocker3 Member Posts: 209
    edited December 2011

    Markat I am with you on Wednesday just in another city and another chair. We have made a paper chain with that six letter work written on the front of the paper. Come wedneday it will now read ncer so it gives u's some incentive everytime one is completed. Good luck and know you are not alone.

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