December 2011 Surgeries - want to wait together?

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  • Ginger48
    Ginger48 Member Posts: 1,978
    edited December 2011

    Kaara- sorry you had to spend your fun day doing not so fun running around.

    chrissilini and noodle- so glad things went well!

    Jenni- I am glad you are getting better each day.

    terry- in no time at all you will be reporting in that you are done as well...sending calm thoughts to get you through the last few days.

  • brendaks
    brendaks Member Posts: 32
    edited December 2011

    I'll be having an excisional biopsy on Dec 20.  I got called in Nov after a mammogram showed microcalcifications to do a biopsy of two location on my left side.  Both samples showed atypical ductile hyperplasia.  Was refered to a BS who wanted to do an MRI before doing surgery, but my insurance company denied the MRI saying it was investigative and not necessary as it's not breast cancer (stinky insurance companies!).  My surgeon said the area of ADH is 4 cm x 2.5 cm, and without an MRI he'll now have to take a much larger area out with a wire-guided excisional biopsy.  I have a meeting on Jan 4 with an oncologist, so should have pathology by then in case the surgical biopsy happens to find actual cancer instead of just precancer.

  • faithhopenluv
    faithhopenluv Member Posts: 323
    edited December 2011

    There were a lot of surgeries this week. My heart is with all of you and hope you have a strong hand to hold.

  • faithhopenluv
    faithhopenluv Member Posts: 323
    edited December 2011

    Janie-bug -That's exactly what I want for Christmas- no lymph node invovlement and this thing out of my body. I hope your surgery went well. You are in my thoughts

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited December 2011

    Still on two Norco every six hours, otherwise the pain gets ahead of me. The "discomfort" I can take - those random pulling/aching/stabbing pains that are intermittent. But the constant burning/aching/throbbing pain that seems to be centered on my chest wall does keep me from sleeping and resting, so doc says TAKE THE DRUGS! Undecided

    However, I do feel like I should soon be turning the corner on pain. Every day I feel  bit more range of motion, even though I'm not supposed to be doing anything with my arms. 

    Drains are slowing down, gone from red to pink to pinkish-yellow. Thank goodness I'd read so many posts here about what to expect in the bulbs. Pre-op instructions said to empty them twice a day, morning and night.

    But when the PS saw me the morning he discharged me, the drains were full, and he said I needed to empty them WAY before that - at least by the half-full mark, or else there wouldn't be enough suction. In the hospital, the nurse folded the empty bulb in half, then rolled it up toward the cap, THEN put the cap back on. We adjusted the charts at home so we could write in drain emptying four times a day. I have a disposable pad I put over my lap and under the drains as DH unplugs and empties them. (The nurse said they could squirt across the room if you're not careful!)

    Having "stations" set up before I came home was a good idea. I took plastic trays - one for meds (pain, nausea, antibiotic, etc.) along with charts on clipboards to note what I took, how much, and when. DH is the keeper of the charts. I am capable of taking my own meds, but it helps to have one person in charge.

    I have another tray for drain care - it has the surgical gloves, the alcohol wipes, and the log for measurements. My cousin who is a nurse said to be especially careful with the drains - they are a doorway for bacteria to enter the surgical wounds.

    Sorry - I may be repeating myself here!

    Glad to see more sisters coming home from surgeries - sending hugs and healing wishes to you!

  • Ginger48
    Ginger48 Member Posts: 1,978
    edited December 2011

    Blessings2011- sounds like you have a great plan.I had tray tables set up on either side of the recliner. One was for meds and remotes and the other was for all the drain junk. I also recorded all my meds with the times I took them and when they were due again. It was very helpful.

    I want to chime in on the "stay ahead of the pain" bandwagon. I do not like taking meds and tried several times to wean myself off the meds too early. Your body needs the pain meds to help speed healing so do not rush to get off them and also do not use your arms too much in the beginning even though it is beginning to feel like you can. It is important to let everything rest and heal. Good luck!

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited December 2011
    I second the "careful with the drains" advice from Blessings2011. I had a home care nurse that put on nonsterile gloves  just prior to removing my drain (despite there being a pile of sterile dressing materials on the table 5 feet away), and I ended up with a week of Keflex which is the foulest tasting antibiotic I've ever had. Fortunately she never came back after the drain was out, despite being scheduled for another visit. I had to read the riot act to the agency and they're now on notice for next time. It's hard to say "hey, what's with the lousy technique??" to the person who you perceive as being in a position to hurt you, but it's really just hurt me now or hurt me later when the infection kicks in.
  • Momof2inME
    Momof2inME Member Posts: 683
    edited December 2011

    Hello Everyone,

    You can add me to the list too. I am having BMX 12/21 with reconstrction (Left TE and Right NSM with direct implant). Just want it over with to be home for Christmas. Hubby has set up the recliner infront of the Christmas tree for me for Christmas morning. I look at this post everyday to say a little prayer for whoever is having surgery that day. Good luck to everyone and speedy recoveries!!

  • Kite
    Kite Member Posts: 265
    edited December 2011

    Hi ALL! I am all cozied up and feeling a little loopy. It's been an experience for sure. I am going to attempt a shower here in a minute. I haven't seen my scars yet and like most other people the drains are a bitch.

    The good news is my nodes are NEGATIVE! Plus he didn't put the port in because it looks like the calcifactions between the tumors are not cancer yet. That will be determined with the Path report next week. He said he is thinking that my after treatment will not have to be as aggresive.

    I am feeling so blessed with the news so far. Love to ALL!

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited December 2011

    Momof2inME:  All the best to you...praying that you have a positive outcome!

    Kite:  Great news! 

  • Kite
    Kite Member Posts: 265
    edited December 2011

     I will still need chemo just not immediatly

  • CharB22
    CharB22 Member Posts: 310
    edited December 2011

    Had my surgery yesterday. Clear nodes!! IV and the radioactive die injection was probably the worst. But I bit the blanket (literally) and got through it fine. Feel pretty good today. Sore and a little groggy. I took percocet so I could sleep through the night. I'm going to switch to tylenol today. Now I guess I just wait for pathology report, right?

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited December 2011

    Kite - YAY for good news!!

    blessings2011 - glad it sounds like things are going pretty well for you.

    To everyone who I've not responded personally, it sounds like overall the Dec. group is going well. Still thinking about the previous surgeries and about the upcoming ones as well. I can hardly believe mine is in just 5 days. EEK! This whole insurance thing is a bit maddening. I can sort of keep on top of it right now, but after surgery, who knows. Why do some offices take your copay up front and others do not, it'd be nice if they were consistent. I also have two bills for two different amounts of copays for the same procedure. Do I get to pick which one I pay? If so I choose the $35 instead of the $200 one. This cancer crap is EXPENSIVE!!

    I'm still working right now but am taking Monday off for a family day - to spend the day together enjoying each other's company. Most of my work is done except for the people for whom I must wait - we try to give the same final exam and therefore I must wait for my colleagues to get their butts in gear too. It'll get done, just not on MY time schedule - I'm the one who likes to work on the early side of things, the others, not so much. But overall, I'm coping OK.

    I hope everyone is comfortable and happy at the moment, at least.

  • Nicole55
    Nicole55 Member Posts: 37
    edited December 2011

    Hello to all of the december ladies,

    I had my surgery yesterday, and everything was as expected by my surgeon.  No nodes infected YES....

    I didn't have to take pain pills, because it is not hurting  a lot.  I will see the surgeon in 4 weeks and I am waiting a call from the oncologist to have an appointment in january for the post surgery rads treatment.

    My best wishes to all of you who will have surgery this month. xx

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited December 2011
    Nicole - I only took pain meds for the ride home after each of my lumpectomies and then no pain meds after that. YAY for no negative nodes!! Rest up and good wishes for your future treatment.
  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited December 2011

    Nicole...that's wonderful!  Have a great recovery!  Char...congrats to you as well!  Hope all these nodes negative are a good trend and I'll get the same!

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited December 2011

    Last minute gotcha from the hospital. Fortunately no health-insurance headaches in the Cdn system but we are still feeling our way through accessibility. They booked a sign language interpreter and ignored my request to know who they use and the person I recommended. My first clue of this derailment was when my recommended interpreter was told she can come but won't be paid. I thought I had it all sorted out and now back to fighting to know the name, and possibly vetoing the person they chose. It isn't the waving of hands or the taking of a fee that matters. They have to be signing exactly and entirely the meaning of what people are saying, and you'd be surprised how often they aren't, sometimes because they simply don't understand it. Plus interpreters are a very small group and I have to work with these people in professional settings afterwards. I don't feel comfortable having just "anybody" see me in a vulnerable moment. Even more important with the theft of my hearing aid the other day and no way to get replacement by 15th. The latter also royally buggers up my last minute work loose-ends cleanup for sure. Anxious.

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited December 2011

    goldlining:  How terrible...what a ridiculous system we have!  Hope it works out for you.

  • chrissilini
    chrissilini Member Posts: 313
    edited December 2011

    Post surgery day 2. Feeling better as I know I will every day. Still sore in some areas, my back being the worst of it all I think. To add insult to injury I started my period the day of surgery. Are you kdding me? As if the rest wasn't enough. Oh well. Haven't slept very well either as I'm having a hard time finding a position of comfort for my chest without putting all my weight on my tailbone.

    I guess the problem I'm having the most with is my partner. Do you all feel that you situations are 'private', between just you and your husbands,partners, boyfriends? My parents came up for my surgery and because they are elderly and live 5 1/2 hours away we decided, before sx, that they'd just stay until Christmas as they were planning on coming for Christmas anyway. My family has always been very close and supportive of each other. My partner is having a hard time with them being here. He thinks this is a private matter that me and him have to get through together. That he is perfectly capable of taking care of me and they don't need to be here. His feelings are causing friction I told everyone beforehand that right now everything is about me and that I'm the most important right now. I've said the my parents as well as my partner that they need to put their feelings aside because I need to focus on healing. Just seems that he isn't able to do that. He has always been loving and kind and has been with me every step of the way so far. But now it seems like I need to make a choice between my parents and him. It's a choice I can't and shouldn't have to make and I just don't know what to do. Help....

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited December 2011

    chrissilini:  So sorry you have to deal with this during a time when all you should have to focus on is getting better.  You partner is probably feeling threatened and defensive about having his territory invaded.  I have no idea why guys are like this,but they are!  Mine would be the same way...I can only imagine.  

    You have two choices...either ignore it completely and let them sort it out...and they will, or have a talk with your partner and reinforce the fact that this is all about you right now and you must have peace and harmony in order to heal properly, and that you are requesting his cooperation in making that happen.  Your elderly parents have every right to come and see their daughter at a time like this, and they shouldn't be treated as intruders.  They aren't here to take care of you because they don't think he can't do it, they are here to offer love and support for both of you.  It might be uncomfortable for him, but it soon will pass and things will be back to normal.  Maybe he can understand this if you talk to him reasonably about it.

    I'm sure everything will work out fine.  Don't allow yourself to get upset by this.  

  • Nicole55
    Nicole55 Member Posts: 37
    edited December 2011

    Chrissi,

     I think that you are very fortunate to have your parents.  Mines are dead and I missed my mom so much in time like this.

    I guess that it is not the same thing from a family to another family.  Our family care very much for each of us.  I have my syster left and she was at hom when I arrived from the hospital and I was so glad.  Maybe in your partner's family they were not close as you are with your parents and that is why I think that your partner don't understand the "family power".  Try to think about his life as a child and maybe that will give you some clues about how he feels about family now.  Some people leave their parents for universtity or work and never or almost never see them afterwards.

    You are so lucky to hame your mom and dad with you and all they want is your recovery.  My husband is a family man, he is very close with his brother and sisters, sometimes I find it too much but I can understand that he needs to be with them and share with them.

    Try to talk with your boyfriend and I am pretty sure that he will understand.  For now, all of this is so unusual for us and gave us a lot of stress and anxiety.   Probably it is because he loves you very much and needs to be the only one for you.  Sometimes man don't talk very much and we have difficulties to deal with their mind because they don't talk enough about what is scaring them.

    Best wishes to you and your family xxxx

    Nicole

  • Judy67
    Judy67 Member Posts: 361
    edited December 2011
    chrissilini - That's a tough situation, so sorry you are having to deal with this on top of everything else.  My DH has been fantastic but I get occasional glimpses of the stress this is taking on him.  He is very afraid for me and has become very touchy feely since my diagnosis.  Often just reaching out and touching me in bed, just to make sure I'm still there I think.  It's hard for your parents too I know.  I don't have my mother anymore and often wish she was here to talk to as I go through this.  But, in the long run, who would you rather have by your side seeing you through this long journey.  Your partner is in it for the long haul, your parents will eventually have to go home.  You might try talking to your partner and empathizing with him.  Let him know you understand how he feels, but your parents are already here. Remind him he just has to try and get along until Christmas and then it will be back to the two of you again.  Hope this helped.  ((hugs)) Judy
  • g8rDee
    g8rDee Member Posts: 19
    edited December 2011

    You can lump (pun intended) me into the waiting group for Dec.surgeries. Rt MX on Dec 14 along with lymph node removal under rt arm.

     It hits me more and more each day. I also have a post in the Dec 2011 board.

    Feel free to share any insite on how to get through this!

    Thanks,

    D

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited December 2011

    Welcome Denise sorry you're having to join us. For me, keeping busy with other stuff is good, really helps take my mind off of "poor me" thoughts. Occasionally my brain smacks me upside the head and I go "AIEEEEEE!!" but mostly I try to think of other stuff.


    Best wishes to you!

    -Judy

  • Terry71
    Terry71 Member Posts: 293
    edited December 2011
    Denise- we have the same surgery date, I have to be there for 6AM Yell surgery at 8am..... I have todrag my butt outa bed at 5AM!!!!!!!!!!!! So NOT Impressed..... Left MX already had nodes removed back in June with lumpectomy...... But rad onc says BOOB has to go,,, so bye bye Boobie!!!!!!  Cry
  • patty9999
    patty9999 Member Posts: 59
    edited December 2011

    First of all, I want to wish you all with December surgeries past and future to know that I'll be thinking of you and praying that all works out well.  I am now 1 1/2 years past my surgeries and sometimes forget that I even went through all this.  It does get better.

    To Denise - my advice of how I got through it was to just take it one day at a time.  I learned to meditate and after all this time, still do it every day.  It helps to calm me.  I learned there was no need to waste energy worrying about things.  Whatever was going to happen was going to happen.  I thought thoroughly through all my decisions, did my research and felt comfortable with every one I made before I said okay, "Let's do it!".

     Another thing I found was I set up a page on Caring Bridge   http://caringbridge.org/  that I was originally going to use to keep my family and friends up to date on my situation.  But, I found that by my journaling I was able to "process" what all was happening much easier.  My husband got tired of talking things out over and over again.  By my writing it in my journal, I sort of gave myself approval to have the scary feelings I was having at times.  Anyway, I had never journaled in my life and didn't think I was the type.  But, I think between that and my meditation, besides having full faith in my doctor's it helped me to get through it all.

     I'll be praying for you all throughout the month.

    You can do this!

    Patty

  • CatWhispurrer
    CatWhispurrer Member Posts: 263
    edited December 2011

    Hi everyone,  I'm recooperating after LX SNB on Wednesday.   I was wrapped up tight in a big ace bandage when I came home.  The worst was the wire put in and IV which they had a hard time getting in.  My BS okayed me having pre-med before putting in the wire because I was so distraught about it.  That was a HUGE help and I barely remember the numbing shot, wire and then the mammograms they did right before surgery.  They waited until I was out to move the IV to somewhere else in my arm to get a better drip.   All went well but it sounds like he took more than I expected.  I still had a huge hematoma left from my biopsy over a month ago, so he took the tumor, the hematoma and also had to take 3 SN.  He said one node looked very "angry" but might be from my body trying to absorb the previous biopsy hematoma.  I won't know until next week.   How does every else get their SN results right after surgery??  So I am waiting and hoping for a good path report.  My PET/CT scans were clear.   I have a lot of bruising and burning/aching pain but taking percocet.  BS said he had to go deep, right down to my muscle so he did a lot of cauterizing to stop bleeding.  I have the Ace bandage off now and just using a sports bra.  I am very little so not worried about much "jiggling" LOL!   Good luck to all the other Dec surgeries.

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited December 2011

    Patty - thank you for such kind and encouraghing words. They do help soothe the nerves a little bit.

    I also want to second Patty's suggestion of journaling of some sort. For me, after just about every doctor appointment or other important step, I've written up what went on, and about my feeling about much of it as well. It really has helped me process what I"m going through and also has allowed me to think through things a second time, and this time more slowly and thoroughly. I do e-mail what I've written to those intersted and post it to an online blog that only my friends can access. I am a science teacher and writing is not something I've ever thought of as a strength, but through this I've heard from so many people that they appreciate me doing this and enjoy reading it. Not only do they understand better what I'm going through, but I have also helped demystify this whole cancer thing for them. I'd encourage all of you to try it, you might find it really helps.

    -Judy

  • CookieMonster
    CookieMonster Member Posts: 1,035
    edited December 2011

    Tina - When they take nodes, they sometimes will do a "frozen section" where they look at them right away and can get an idea of whether or not the nodes are positive. But then they send them to pathology to get a more definitive answer. My BS did not do the frozen section on mine because whether the nodes were positive or negative wouldn't have affected the surgery that day, so there was no point to doing it, she just sent them on to pathology for a full analysis. If your surgeon does axillary node disections if you're node positive, it's good to know right then and there, but my BS says that research says that axillary node diesctions are no longer thought to be helpful, so she doesn't do them. Hence the week long wait for me to get pathology results. Hope this helps.

    -Judy

  • CatWhispurrer
    CatWhispurrer Member Posts: 263
    edited December 2011

    Thanks Judy.  Yes, that makes sense.  My BS said that he only takes SN, not all because research shows it doesn't make a difference in treatment.  So, I just need to wait for path report for size, grade, stage, etc.  I asked them to re-check the receptors again just to make sure of diagnoses.

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