High blood sugar levels

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Has anyone had  good results using "natural" methods to control high blood sugar levels. From the research I've been doing, have found 3 things suggested: cinnamon, chromium picolinate, and apple cider vinegar (acv).

The directions on the New Chapter "Cinnamonforce" is to take it after meals. Chromium Picolinate with meals.  Apple Cider Vinegar before meals.  All seems very doable.

Would very much like to hear from anyone who has had a positive experience with any of these, and other things you have found effective to reduce blood sugar level.

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  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited December 2011

    Sun -- I've been putting a tsp of cinnamon in my morning fruit smoothie (which is where I get the fructose "rush") and my blood sugar levels have gone from high normal to normal.  I also put a cinnamon stick in any fruit (such as prunes) that I stew, and add it to things like applesauce.  Next to mocha, cinnamon has always been my favourite "sweet" spice!  love the smell, love the taste.

  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited December 2011

    There is a difference between diabetic range blood sugars, and blood sugars running a bit higher than normal (pre-diabetes).  If you are diabetic, you should be under the care of an endocrine doc.

     Herbs that may help lower pre-diabetic numbers:

    Banaba extract,

    milk thistle,

    cinnamon,

    Vingear will help lower glucose response when taken before eating a meal...and rinse your mouth after as you can erode the teeth!!

    Alpha Lipoic Acid

    You could try the bitter melon extract (or actual food, if you can stomach how bitter it is),

    Gymnema sylvestre is an herb that may help.

    Prickly Pear cactus is DELICIOUS and is supposed to be great at lowering blood sugar..but it is expensive (yummy though in actual fruit and not sure how well the supplements are supposed to work.)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    Wallycat

    thanks - PRE level, and there is a historyof adult onset diabetes in my family - so I want to be VERY proactive doing everything I can now.  Don't ever use sugar, am gluten free, no candy, use a bit of Algave in my tea - and dont eat any prepared foods.  Was very surprised to see my fasting blood sugar level go over 100.

    Do you know if Fish Oil can effect the fasting blood sugar readings?  I take a lot of it - and my cholesteral is now wonderful, dropped 20 points from last year.  It went WAY up when I started taking Arimidex.

  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited December 2011

    Fish oil is a mixed bag...it can help with inflammation but some people do see a rise in glucose.

    If it is familial, then you can only do so much.

    On the plus side, metformin is being studied as an anticancer med even in non-diabetics, so that is what I am telling myself...do the best I can (i also have higher fasting and diabetes in my family) and then just let it go. 

    I've worried enough about things.  I've started a host of the herbs and went from 102 to 100 in fasting even though I still weigh more than I normally did....sigh.

    Oh, and just to put things in perspective, when I went to dietetic school, fasting for non-pregnant women was 110 as normal....Europe still uses this number.  We moved the number down to under 100 (just like the pregnant gals)...so a small rise is still probably by most standards, normal!

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited December 2011

    When I was on AIs (both Femera and Arimidex) my blood sugar readings took me up to pre-diabetic in a flash - when I stopped taking them blood sugar went back to normal.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    208Sandy - WOW!!!  I hadn't thought of that!  really - another SE of Arimidex???  Boggles the mind how much estrogen effects different things in our bodies: cholesteral, bone density, and now blood sugar????

    My blood sugar went up almost 15 points this year - and the only major change was being faithful about taking my teaspoon of Fish Oil every day.  Had been reading in different places that Fish Oil could effect blood glucose, but nothing definitive.  Wonder why?????  When it had SUCH a good effect on my cholesteral - down 20 points & HDL realy good, tryglicerides down to 35 ( I thought it might be a typo?)

    What a paradox - 

    NOW - another question - does any one who is pre level diabetic ( over 115) use a blood sugar monitor?  Tey seem so cheap, but the test strips seem outrageously expensive - AND, reading up on them online, seems the FDA "allows" a 20% ( or was it 20 points) deviation in reading.  

  • Babs37
    Babs37 Member Posts: 455
    edited December 2011
    Research Mulberry leaf extract. It helps lower blood sugar.
  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited December 2011

    When I had my first pre-reading, I was in my 40s and not on an AI...since I started my herbs AND had the arimidex, I dropped points...but yes, since there is such a margin of error, I take it with a grain of salt. 

    I asked my doc to Rx a meter so the strips and the meters were all covered by insurance.  I tried to monitor things I ate, but eventually realized that the high carb, low fat diets were killing me.  Not only did I feel crappy, i think I burned out a lot of islet cells (pancreas).  

    I read Gary Taubes' book Good calories; Bad Calories...and it changed my world.  It was for a job interview and I never regretted reading it.

    Why not  try to eliminate the fish oil for a few months and get retested to see if that was the issue?

    Also, I started to ask for the A1c test (it looks at a 2-3 month range of glucose in the blood) versus the fasting.  I explained that I eat all day but I only fast once.  That gives a better picture.

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited December 2011

    When I want to lose weight I go on South Beach Diet and it works - it also keeps your blood sugar way down it is a low carb diet and heart healthy - it's a good diet for everything that ails me - carbs make me swell and ache and feel generally unwell.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    Sandy

    I think you may be correct about the connection - high blood sugar & Arimidex.  I've just emailed my docs to ask about it.  Will let you know what I hear.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited December 2011

    I am seriously considering trying the "2-day diet": http://www.121doc.co.uk/news/diet-to-lower-breast-cancer-risk-6989.html

    I used to have low normal fasting glucose, mid-80s, but when the BC was DXed it was 95 and it has stayed there all through my treatment. I think it is related, although the docs don't agree, lol. 95 may be normal, but it is not normal for me.

    I plan to add cinnamon, up the exercise, and see if I can manage the 2 days a week on drastically reduced calories. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    Momine

    My docs also said it was not "related" to taking an aromatase inhibitor.  I don't agree.  Estrogen seems to effect every other hormone, gland in our bodies, why not insulin & pancreas.

    I'm also taking Chinese Herbs from my acupuncturist.  Cinnamon and Chromium picolinate.  Cutting back on all carbohydrates - even brown rice.

    Will check the link you gave: http://www.121doc.co.uk/news/diet-to-lower-breast-cancer-risk-6989.html

  • Sassa
    Sassa Member Posts: 1,588
    edited December 2011

    Sunflowers,

    Google "Diane Kress" and "Metabolism B."

    She is a Certified Diabetes Educator and a licensed dietitian.  Based on her years of practice with diabetic patients, she has developed a way of eating for those of us with the strong family history of  diabetes and metabolic syndrome (high cholesterol, high blood pressure, either diabetic or at risk to develop diabetes). Her plan can be used to lose weight if needed or used to help bring your metabolic syndrome into line.

    I have been using her plan for two years now.  I finally lost my weight , lowered my cholesterol (taken off the meds by my doctor), lower my blood pressure (off one med, other med dosage reduced by half), and my Hgb A1c is 5.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    WOW

    off to google her  - thank you!

  • Desny
    Desny Member Posts: 371
    edited December 2011

    Thanks Sassa!

    I have this strange feeling that I need to be on that diet too. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    Read the reviews on Amazon - and it's basically what I'm doing - amost NO carbohydrates, til the net blood test to see how that does.  Then gradually reintroduce the ones I can tolderate.

    Think the chromium picolinate, and the cinnamon will be effective.   Haven't had gluten in years, so really the onyl carbohydrates I've been having were brown rice, oatmeal, and quinoa.

  • Sassa
    Sassa Member Posts: 1,588
    edited December 2011

    Sunflowers,

    Yes, her step 1 is basically very limited carbohydrates for 8 weeks to allow the pancreas and liver to rest from our insulin overproduction and blood sugar swings caused by our carbohydrate cravings (which is caused by our metabolic syndrome prone metabolism).

    After that, Step two introduces the "good carbohydrates," and teaches us how many carbohydrates to eat and the importance of timing for carbohydrate intake.  It is also the step one stays on for a while for weight loss.

    Step 3 is maintenance and is the way of eating we need to do to maintain our body weight and metabolism.

    What is also nice is she also gives you the 'eraser" to use when you have gone off plan and need to get back into sync.

    Her plan is an extension of Atkins and the South Beach Diet which are on the right track for weight loss but needed further refinement for us "Metabolism B" people. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    I just found this online re: Niacin

    The effect of niacin on type 2 diabetes is more complicated. People with type 2 diabetes often have high levels of fats and cholesterol in the blood. Niacin, often along with other drugs, can lower those levels. However, niacin may also raise blood sugar levels, which is particularly dangerous for someone with diabetes. For that reason, anyone with diabetes should take niacin only when directed to do so by their doctor, and should be carefully monitored for high blood sugar.

    Read more: http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/vitamin-b3-000335.htm#ixzz1h5GTjUPF

     GUESS WHO HAS BEEN TAKING NIACIN (high dose) to get her Cholesteral levels to go down by 20 points this year!!!!

    THE MIND BOGGLES....

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    Just wondering if any women taking Statin drugs to help lower cholesterol have noticed an increase in their blood glucose levels.  There's been quite a bit in the news about this lately.  Expect it's the same thing I experienced taking the Slo-Niacin. 

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