Has anyone started a Dec 2011 group?

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darlam
darlam Member Posts: 66

Hello, all. Will be starting my TCH regimen Dec. 1. Have been lurking on the October board, and learning lots. Would like to talk with others who will be starting around the same time.

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  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited November 2011

    Hi Dariam. I don't have a date yet, but my first onc appt is tomorrow - even if I start the end of November, I'd be happy to join a December group. I'll check out the Oct group. I guess I should try to read up on this as much as I did prior to my bmx.

  • tammie
    tammie Member Posts: 738
    edited November 2011

    I'm havin my port put in place Nov.18th then starting chemo the following week i believe..Thought when i did this 9yrs ago i was done but here i am again..Would be happy to join Dec. group as ill only be 1 in by end of November..Big hugs to you all looking forward to start chemo asap..Tammie

  • darlam
    darlam Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2011

    So I think we have a club...even if none of us wanted to join. Sadly, I'm sure we will gain others as we go.

    rachelvk-When did you have surgery?Hope you are recovering well. I am two weeks out today from my unilateral mx.  Starting to feel well enough emotionally to feel bummed emotionally and worried about the next phase of treatment. In an odd way, I think that's progress:)

    tammie-I am soooo sorry you are having to do this yet again. I cannot even imagine how difficult it is to hear those words for the second time and know all too well what it means. Having my port on the 16th. Will be thinking of you next week.

    I have been looking into cold caps to try to decrease hair loss. Have a list of OTC meds to deal with SE's, like Claritin, B6, Immodium, Metamucil....I feel like I should just take out stock in Walgreen's:)  

  • tammie
    tammie Member Posts: 738
    edited November 2011

    Dar your right in the fact that your making progress it seems from dx to treatment yoou fly through so fast that your already onto somthing else just as you begin to absorb what youve been through..Its only normal..Idk what chemo regimen im gonna be on yet still waiting..I hope your port placement goes well, i recall being very sore after first one for almost a week.. but after that i loved having it...Be sure to keep me posted..I also got my genetic testing next week..Keeping my fingers and toes crossed our little December group fares this well :)

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited November 2011

    I'm 2 weeks and a day out from a bmx. My overall recovery has been smooth - no complications, much less pain than I imagined - but today I hit the grumpy wall. I'm not sleeping well, I hate sleeping on my back, and yes, I'm starting to think more about chemo.

    Saw my onc today for the first time and really like her. She initially recommended A-C with Taxol, but we got talking about the slight risk for neuropathy (tingling/numbness, possibly long-term, in the fingers and feet), and when she found out that I fence and play violin, she decided TAC (with Taxotere) would be a better option. I can start in the next few weeks. I just need to make a final decision about any fertility considerations. I'm 42, single, no kids, but with a boyfriend who isn't thrilled about having kids. I'm okay with adoption, but before I potentially put myself out of the running, I want to spend a few days thinking. That's been the hardest part in this whole thing for me.

    I asked about the cold caps - I was interested in them - but she said for the price you wind up paying, there's just not enough evidence it makes any difference. The only thing I found online mentioned renting at a rate of about $500 a month or $250 per session... I love my hair, but I might just go with the free wig and hats my friends are knitting for me. But if anyone has any other information, I'm open minded.

    One tip I've heard - drink a few teaspoons of olive oil every day to preserve your sense of taste. I think I can live with that one.

    Good luck, Tammie and Darlam, as we head into this new chapter. 

  • stephanie33
    stephanie33 Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2011

    I am starting chemo on December 1st, Taxol and Carboplatin 6  rounds.  Like Tammie this is my second go around I had it almost 4 years ago as well.  I hate that there is so many of us that are going thru this.

  • darlam
    darlam Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2011

    Hi Stephanie. I am glad to "meet" you, but sorry that you are here, and especially that it is also a second experience for you. We can do this together in spirit on the 1st. I hate the whole thing for all of us too. I am gradually coming to terms with the fact that a future occurence is quite likely. That was not my perspective at the beginning, I was going to have surgery, get whatever treatment I needed, reconstruct and move on. Yeah. Know better now.

    My tumor is HER+, and I will be receiving Herceptin, which they tell me is a "game changer" in treatment therapies for this type. All the survival/reoccurence stats about people with my diagnosis do not really take into account the apparently better outcomes with Herceptin because it just hasn't been around long enough. That is hopeful, but bottom line, we just don't ever know, do we? And not knowing is one of the hard parts. 

    rachelvk- Hadn't heard about olive oil before. That is probably worth a try and doesn't sound too awful. Heart healthy, also!!!!  I think we're entitled to a certain amount of grumpy. I've sure had my moments. Is Taxotere supposed to cause less neuropathy than Taxol? I did not know that. Hope so, because I am getting THC with Taxotere/Herceptin/Carboplatin. I am 48 with grown children and three grandchildren, so in a different place in my life. I think though that it is important not to close any doors if you think you could have regrets later. There is not a thing wrong with a conscious decision to be child free; on the other hand, the choice to become a parent is something you should not pass up for any circumstance or any person if you feel it is something you desire. I also decided I could not afford the name brand Penguin Caps, but am looking into Elastocaps, which are much cheaper. I have talked to women on the boards who have also used these with positive results. They are more like $80-90 each. It is recommended to have 3-4 of them, but that's still much more affordable, and I'm thinking that for me, it's probably worth a try. 

    tammie- My surgeon assures me I will be happy with the port, and I certainly am all about avoiding the digging for a vein I experienced during the mx hospitalization. I just hope it is not a constant source of discomfort like the drains! My BRCA was negative, despite a strong family history. I was told only about 5% of them come back positive, which surprised me. 

    What are you all thinking about dealing with holidays and chemo? I am just sort of choosing to opt out of most things and have informed the grown children not to expect expensive gift giving. Something small for the kids, a collaborative effort family dinner...THE END! Anyone else thinking that far?

    Also, anyone else planning to/has worked during chemo? I really need to financially. Any helpful tips or ideas for planning?

  • stephanie33
    stephanie33 Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2011

    Darlam

    As for the stock in Walgreens, last time I went thru chemo I had a plastic shoe box size container FULL of different types of medicine to help with the side effects.  Not fun but they did help with all of them but the decrease in white blood cells.  I am thinking I need to begin my supply again, thank goodness my chemo is not supposed to be as hard on me this time. 

  • kennylynne
    kennylynne Member Posts: 152
    edited November 2011

    I am sorry that you are going through this again......... you beat it once you can do it again!! I will be happy to join the group I am just finishing last round of dose dense taxol 3rd herceptin and starting rads in December. It is unfortunate that there is a group but at least no one is alone.

    You don't know how strong you are until you have to be. 

  • stephanie33
    stephanie33 Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2011

    Darlam 

    I had taxotere last time around and had little problems with the neuropathy, this time I am having Taxol and a lil nervous about the neuropathy.  As for the Holidays, we moved across the country (Michogan to Idaho) lasst year so it is just my husband and 2 young boys here in Idaho so I am not palnning anything big and my husband fortunately is a great help.  I am planning on working as much as I can I work for the federal government and thankfully they have a leave donation program which my coworkers have generously donated leave time to me since I used all mine for my BMX.  Also, my bosses are extremely understanding and are going to allow me to work at home as much as I can if I need to.  I hope your company/bosses are understanding.

  • darlam
    darlam Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2011

    stephanie33

    I am having the taxotere, and my oncologist confirmed yesterday that neuropathy is generally more of a problem with the taxol vs taxotere. I hope that does not turn out to be true for you. Why did they make this treatment choice? Is is because of a particular tumor characteristic or because you have had taxotere previously? 

    We have a very large extended family and actually have company from out of state this weekend because there is a family baby shower occurring tonight. No one has expected me to do anything "extra" and my DH has done all of the cleaning and cooking, but I am exhausted just having them all here. Rotten time of year to have to deal with this, but then, when would be good? It must be very hard to go through this with little ones. Mine are at least grown.

     Work, well, we will just have to see. I am a nurse midwife and have very long days in the office and 24 hr call shifts for deliveries. My practice partners have been MORE than supportive and accomodating, and have in fact donated some time, but I simply cannot afford not to work throughout chemo, and if I am going to work at all, am going to have to do a 40+ hr week. My scheduled days can be manipulated to work around whatever are my "worst" days after treatments, if we can try to predict a pattern, but once I'm on, I'm on and whatever happens, happens. Very concerned about this. It is great that you may be able to work partially from home if needed.

    greetings, kennylynne. sorry that you are facing both chemo AND rads. hoping it goes well for you. 

  • darlam
    darlam Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2011

    just got home from hospital and a full day of testing. had MUGA scan and was told my ejection fraction was 76%, which is good.

    Also had an MRI of the liver to take a second look. MRI of the right breast before mx saw a "worrisome" area that they thought was an affected lymph node, a subsequent CAT scan said it was not a lymph node but a hemangioma, which is a cluster of abnormal blood vessels that I was likely born with. Then an abdominal sonogram failed to find this area at all....so we still don't know what it actually is. Hopefully today's test will tell us something reassuring.

    Also had a pelvic ultrasound as there was a 4 cm mass on the ovary previously that they "thought" was a cyst; follow up was recommended to see if it is decreasing in size or not, if so, this is good, if not, may need a closer look. The tech refused to tell me if it could still be seen or even to turn the screen toward me. I know that they are not radiologists, and not supposed to interpret findings, but it is funny how some will kind of find a way to let you know that things are ok, and others seem to withhold information just because they can. It is MY body, excuse me, and I have been through so much already, just give me the dirt already! So of course, now I am concerned that it actually showed something she didn't want to tell me....when it was probably just fine. I don't think they have any concept of the anxiety you face in these situations. Then she wants to know why my blood pressure is 156/103. Ummm yeah. 

    OK....just needed to vent!

  • Gator65
    Gator65 Member Posts: 72
    edited November 2011

    Hi, I am new here. I had surgery on October 18, a partial mastectomy with oncoplasty and a simultaneous breast reduction. I also had a sentinel node biopsy and they put in my port as well. 

    I should be starting chemo this week but I has a few setbacks, shingles and an allergic reaction to Vitamin E. I see my oncologist on Wednesday so I guess I will get my new start date then. I know I will be having 8 doses of AC and then 4 of Taxol. I am not looking forward to this at all, like anyone ever does.

    I handled the surgery well, but I am so scared of chemo. Losing my hair  along with all the other side effects just plain freaks me out. I guess I will know soon enough.

    Thanks for listening.....

  • stephanie33
    stephanie33 Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2011

    Darlam

    I had taxotere last time around so my new oncologist wants to try something different.  I have to say I am a little scared about the neuropathy with the Taxol.

  • tammie
    tammie Member Posts: 738
    edited November 2011

    Well ladies sorry i been off this section of the boards for a few days!! So i get port placement and bone biopsy this coming Fri. my onc is starting chemo on Tues. I'm going to be doing A/C i guess but if biopsy comes back her2+ then back to taxol and herceptin..I did taxol in 2002 and the nueropathy was an issue not to mention i was allergic to it and had to do cortisone on top of the steriods to offset issues so my onc is hoping to save that for future tx...Try to be positive Dj its soo scary going through all this and with every scan or test comes so much anxiety that it a miracle we keep our sanity lol...Much love to you all i will keep you posted on port placement, hopin it goes better than first one as 1st port placement was quite uncomfortable..Hugs..Tammie

  • darlam
    darlam Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2011

    Hi Gator65. Sorry that you have to join us here but grateful for all of the mutual support. I think we are all pretty freaked about the unknown. Others who have done this before keep telling me it will be better after the first time. I sure hope so. The hair loss bothers me too. We are already dealing with changed bodies. To have something that is so visible to everyone else feels like being a walking "I have cancer" billboard. I have ordered the Elastogel caps and plan to try these. Whether it not it works, who knows, but I felt it was worth a try.

    Stephanie 33-That makes sense. I just am still not sure how they make all of these decisions between similar meds. Hoping that the SE's are not as bothersome as you fear. 

    Tammie-will be thinking of you on Friday. Let us know how it goes. I know that you are sedated but awake for this. Would have thought they would put you under general anesthesia for bone biopsy. Guess not. Ask for really good drugs!!! Hope that you are groggy enough not to feel or remember much.

    My port placement was supposed to be tomorrow.  Got cancelled because my pelvic sonogram showed no change in an ovarian mass (cyst?) of 4 cm from 6 wks. ago till now. My GYN says if malignant, it should have grown; if benign, it should be getting smaller. Since it's the same, they want to biopsy this. To get it done in the same surgery requires rescheduling. Makes sense, but frustrating. On a good note, the liver question is settled and seems to be ok. 

    Hugs to all. The waiting and not knowing what to expect at each stage of the process is the toughest. 

  • kennylynne
    kennylynne Member Posts: 152
    edited November 2011

    Darlam sending lots of positive thoughts your way!!! The waiting is always the hardest part and your mind wonders constantly. Strength in numbers right??? glad we have this site!!!

  • mysunshine
    mysunshine Member Posts: 3
    edited November 2011

    Hii ladies, I'm new here.. 

    Did surgery to remove lump on 20th Oct; will be starting chemo by end of Nov / beginning of Dec. My onc sugested 3x FEC, 3x Taxotere; followed by 25x Rads.. pheww.. I just cant wait to start!! ;)

    Run Baby Run!!

  • mysunshine
    mysunshine Member Posts: 3
    edited November 2011

    Hii ladies, I'm new here..

    Did lumpectomy on  20th Oct 2011;  will be starting chemo by end on Nov / begining of Dec. My onc suggested 3x FEC, 3x Taxotere; followed by 25x rads.. pheww.. Cant wait to start! ;)

    Run Baby Run!! 

  • Grace_is_more_than_a_name
    Grace_is_more_than_a_name Member Posts: 12
    edited November 2011

    Thank you all for sharing and I look forward to hearing from you more as we go through this. I had my MO appointment today, and will start chemo Dec 8. He is waiting until then, as my abdomen is slow healing, from the reconstruction. I don't remember full names right now, but I'll have T & C

  • tammie
    tammie Member Posts: 738
    edited November 2011
    Well ladies im just biding my time waiting/dreading Fri. The last port placement hurt like hell for days hoping it goes smoother this time around...Im going out tomorrow night and getting my LONG hair cut into a super short pixie in hopes that this will make it a little easier for my family to transition into my going bald as the last go round this seemed to affect them more than it did me..Not to mention felt mayb this way i have more control over it will see if it gets any easier to go bald when doing it for the 2nd time idk im thinking it will still suck! I'm also getting the house all disinfected to reduce germs and have a whole shopping list of things im gonna get tomorrow..New toothbrush,biotene mouthwash, good lotion,tummy meds,poop meds,lots of lemon candies and popsicles,and a new outfit to spoil myself..Hoping if i grab a bunch of the things i constantly used the last time i wont be bugging my son to go to the store for me as much..So glad i have you all here to share this path with. Welcome my sunshine. keep up your hope and we will all get through this together Much love and big hugs to you all..Tammie
  • mysunshine
    mysunshine Member Posts: 3
    edited November 2011

    Thanks Tammie.. Wow, so much things to prepare.. I think I have to start listing down things to do and to buy before starting my chemo.. Do I have to cut my hair short before starting chemo? Will I really lose my hair completely?  My crazy husband is planning to shave his head to go bald together with me.. Laughing 

    Let's cherish every moment and live to the fullest!! Cool

  • darlam
    darlam Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2011

    Welcome Sunshine and Grace.

    Sunshine, you may want to explore cold caps to avoid/reduce hair loss. Hadn't heard of them myself before getting on these boards. The 2 main kinds are Penguin cold caps and Elastogel caps. The consensus seems to be that the Penguins are better, but the Elastogel are waaay cheaper. Plan to try them. Don't know how well it works, seems to be mixed experiences and opinions among both users and MO's.Just a thought if you are interested, there is a whole forum thread about hair and cold caps. 

    Tammie, I have a shopping list too. I really hope that your port placement is not bad for you. Will be thinking of you tomorrow. Still trying to get mine rescheduled and coordinated with the GYN surgeon to do both that and the ovarian biopsy at the same time. 

    Grace-Sounds like you had a TRAM or DIEP procedure. I am just a little envious; my plastic surgeon recommended not doing immediate reconstruction since there was so much initial confusion about my diagnosis. (which did actually change after surgery). I hate looking in the mirror right now. I hear that there is quite a recovery from the type of surgery you have had. Best wishes as you go through this time and prepare for chemo. I am starting on the 1st also, so we can compare notes in a couple of weeks:)

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited November 2011

    Welcome to Gator, Grace and Mysunshine, and anyone else I missed. It looks like we'll have a good group of women helping us through all this.

    Darlam - sorry you're dealing with other health issues that are affecting your treatment schedules. Glad to hear the liver issue is resolved, and I'm sending positive thoughts for the biopsy results. I went for my pap today to get that out of the way before chemo - last year I had a string of abnormals, which finally cleared up right before my BC dx. Add to that a dx of Barrett's esophagus (resulting from gastric reflux and a potential precursor to cancer), and I was already in high cancer-alert mode when I found the lump. Why do our bodies do this to us? 

    Tammie - good luck with the port placement.

    I've got my bone scan, MUGA and CT scan appointments all set, and port placement, all the week of Nov 28. That's supposed to be the week I can return to work. I'm running out of full-paid leave, so the sooner I get back, the sooner I can start accruing new vacation/sick days, which I'll need to make it through chemo. Details, details...

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited November 2011

    Hello all,  I'm techinically staring in November, but hey y not, I'll hang with u gals too!  I'm starting my chemo on Nov 22nd just 2 days prior to Thanksgiving.  No turkey and fixings for me, thank u, maybe just some mashed potato please.  You ladies who are staring in December should also check out Oct and Nov, very helpful!

  • Grace_is_more_than_a_name
    Grace_is_more_than_a_name Member Posts: 12
    edited November 2011

    Darlam, Thank you, and yes I had diep. He had to cut more, or differently, as my skin had issues still from the hysterectomy. My surgery was 9/28 and I was even having some abdomen pain tonight. Hoping it heals enough by the 8th.

    Not looking forward to this, but will be nice to share it with you all.

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited November 2011

    Add me to the December 1st group!  Port placement happening on Wednesday.  As for work, they have been very very supportive and understanding.  I have had so much time out of the office already...between surgery and what seems like 100 additional doctor appointments.  My chemo regimine is dose dense AC every two weeks for two months followed by T every two weeks for two months.  Although im not exactly sure how this will all play out, my plan is to have chemo on Thursdays and work "from the chair" and work from home on Fridays.  Im told the AC has a cumulative effect - might not feel that bad after treatment one but it will likely get worse with each additional round.  We shall see!  I looked into the Penguin cold caps but it didnt seem like it was a good option for me and im told the success is limited.  So instead I went and had a ridiculously expensive wig made.  It looks pretty good I guess.  Im off to CVS tomorrow to stock up on all the "stuff" I will need to manage the side effects.  I like the idea of the shoe box to hold it....I will pick one of those up.

     Happy thoughts to all!

  • darlam
    darlam Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2011

    Hi mardibra (love that! so cute!)

    So much to plan and do, isn't there? A million appointments is right. I feel like this is a full time job in and of itself sometimes. Looks like we will get our ports on the same day, and also start chemo on the same day. Will be thinking of you. 

    Tammie...are you back yet? How did the port and biopsy go? Hoping better than you anticipated. 

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited November 2011

    My port procedire isnt until 3:45 in the afternoon and I plan to work that day so Im going to have to get through the entire day without food or liquid.  The food I can handle but no liquid?  Damn!

  • Gator65
    Gator65 Member Posts: 72
    edited November 2011

    Got my start date of Dec. 1st. I went ahead and cut my hair super short and I kinda like it. Picked out a wig so we shall see. Turbans and head scarves look ridiculous on my big ole pumpkin head si I guess I will rock hats.... 

    I plan to eat, drink and be merry over Thanksgiving! How about ya'll?? 

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