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catherinejane
catherinejane Member Posts: 7
edited June 2014 in Stage III Breast Cancer
Extreme Fatigue

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  • catherinejane
    catherinejane Member Posts: 7
    edited August 2010

    I posted awhile back about my decision to have my ovaries removed.  I am 48 and my menopausal status was a little bit up in the air.  Since I had a Grade 3 cancer, I wanted to go ahead and know that I wasn't producing estrogen.  Anyway, the point of my post is to ask about fatigue.  I had the surgery on June 30th.  It went well.  They did the laproscopic procedure and I was up and about and back to normal in 3-4 days.  I was experiencing "warm" flashes from the tamoxifen and they got worse after the surgery but I expected that.  Every hot flash I rationalized as a blessing because it meant there was less estrogen floating around being a potential problem.

     Within the last month, I have been experiencing an overwhelming fatigue that just seems to get worse and worse.  Now it is affecting my ability to get through a work day.  I want to believe that it is menopausal related and it isn't the cancer coming back.  But if it is menopausal, is there any end in sight?

    I've got calls in to both my ob/gyn and oncologist and I have an appointment next week with the oncologist but waiting is so hard.  My mind tends to run away with me so I thought I would post and see if anyone else has had this kind of debilitating fatigue.  (my chemo was over in October and radiation in December and I had my energy back so I don't think it is related to that)

    Cathy

  • diana50
    diana50 Member Posts: 2,134
    edited August 2010

    i think after you finish treatment you are kinda on a "high" however, my experience is that fatigue was a huge issue for me for quite awhile as i returned to my "normal" life....Cool  all the treatment, including hormone treatment is kinda ongoing experience. there is also an emotional/psychological response to all of this; you kinda "gear" up for the "fight" and that also wears you out. fatigue is physical but also emotional. 

    talk to your doc; they should be checking your red cells and white cells..to be sure they are within normal range. what helped me was to rest...when i could...not necessarily sleep..but just rest...additionally add a little exercise...eat good...etc.

    take care of yourself* hang in there.

  • Mom3
    Mom3 Member Posts: 170
    edited August 2010

    I had my ovaries removed over a year ago and I still have horrible fatigue. Actually, my onc called me last week (I posted about this on a separately too) and he told me my iron levels were super low. He said it could explain my fatigue. Something to think about maybe.

  • nancyj1946
    nancyj1946 Member Posts: 16
    edited November 2011

    I have had ILC grade 3 with 7 out of 11 lymp hnodes positive ,I don't know what stage this is.

    I finished chemo  on 2/11/2010, and radiation in april 2010.My onc put me on arimidex in Feb. 2010  I did just fine with it for awhile but, The last several months I have been extremely tired the last time I went my onc he took me off of Arimidex for 2 months.  I go back to him next week, I am still extremely tired,  I don't know what to do. Could my cancer be coming back?  I haven't lost any weight, but I have been running a low grade fever. could this mean anything?

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited November 2011

    Glad you are having it checked out but it could be many things other than cancer. I had bc 8 years ago, finished all my treatment and started getting more tired as time went on. Finally my primary doctor did a thyroid test on me and sure enough my numbers were way off. I started medication and felt great within weeks.

  • AnacortesGirl
    AnacortesGirl Member Posts: 1,758
    edited November 2011

    Nancy,

    It appears that your stage is IIIa.  A 2cm or less tumor size is T1 and 7 lymph nodes is N2.  According to the NCCN guidelines, T1N2 is stage IIIa.

    Your low grade fever could be as simple as a low grade infection that is dragging you down.  However, if it wasn't for the fever, what you describe could be me instead of you.  I had to go on disability last Aug because I could no longer work full time with the fatigue.  Granted, the Aromasin that I was on back then could have been the culprit but I've been on Tamoxifen since Oct 1 and I have not improved.  Now I have a cold (starting week 3 tomorrow).  I've been seeing my onc every month but still no answers.  Good news is that we don't feel it because the cancer is back.  But this fatigue is ridiculous.  My 83 year old mother (who also had BC but it was stage 1 and she only did rads) can run circles around me and she has a fused ankle. 

    If you get any answers I sure would like to hear them.

  • jfsnh
    jfsnh Member Posts: 39
    edited November 2011

    Hi, I finished treatment for stage 2B e&p positive breast cancer with 4 positive nodes which included dose dense chemo, mastectomy and rads, over 4 years ago. I still have overwhelming fatigue. I went on disability for a month, ended up being out for over a year (since I wasn't working I decided to get tx for knee pain, 2 surgeries, 3 mris, a misdiagnosis of bone mets and a total knee replacement were later I was still out of work and still exhausted. I got so sick of myself I went back to work against my oncologist's advice. What a mistake.

    In the first week it was clear that I absolutely can not work 30 hours, now trying 20, but the day I returned to work they stopped my benefits and now I am working and totally broke. But how could i know what i could do until i tried?

    So, I know it's real, my docs know it's real, but I can't get better. I have done everything -- lost 70 pounds, meditate, do yoga, exercise (walk 1.5 hours a day), nothing helps. I have frequently fallen asleep at the wheel, although for now 10 mg of Ritalin one hour before I drive seems to keep me awake for trips under an hour. Fatigue is ruining my life. I am single ( cancer related divorce) have used all my reserve money, rent out my condo because I can't afford to live there, and I am too exhausted to do anything. I have had antidepressants, provigle, Ritalin, therapy, and I am off tamoxifen, still can't work enough to support myself and have no energy for anything fun.



    Has anyone found an answer? Anyone tried the fatigue clinic at mc Anderson or in Hartford, CT? I have had all the tests, seen every specialist, and my oncologist is very supportive and tries to find treatments, but sometimes it feels like dying of cancer would have been better then living with this, and dealing with the financial worries and continued poor health. I hide it well, but at home I collapse and can't move afte even 3 hours of work. I am an RN, not an easy job but one I love. Please, share any success you have had. I will do anything to get better, but it has to be 50.% effective at least for me to take on more financial debt.



    Thanks for letting me vent and for any help, Jody

  • nancyj1946
    nancyj1946 Member Posts: 16
    edited November 2011

    Thank you anacortesgirl I didn't know how to figure the stage of my cancer.

    I had my throyd out in 2008 and my doctor checks it every two to three months. My last test

    was in Sept and it was good, so I know it isn't that. I will let you know what my onc says.

    Thank you so much for your reply

  • AnacortesGirl
    AnacortesGirl Member Posts: 1,758
    edited November 2011

    jfsnh -

    What you describe is so rough! Have you had the fatigue for the last 4 years or did it come on later in your post treatment?  I really understand what you said about being an RN and loving your job but can't do it.  I'm a systems analyst at a refinery and I have loved it for 25 years but when I was at work I was struggling to get through one day.  It used to be that the days and weeks flew by -- I was always irritated that it was lunchtime and that I hadn't done as much work as I wanted to get accomplished.  Last time at work all I could do was watch the clock and was relieved it was time to go home.

    Nancy -

    I've been suspecting my thyroid but I don't think that is the problem.  The TSH was 2.5 one month and then spike to 4.6 but the last two months it's been back in the 2.x range.  The other thing I've seen since I've been seeing the onc every month for the last 4 months is that my RBCs and WBCs alternate.  One month the RBC will be just above the minimum and WBC below then it gets switched.  Don't know if that is a factor or not. I just want my old energy back.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited November 2011

    low estrogen contributes to fatigue.  personally i find that solid mid day rest is most helpful.. maybe an extra hour at night.  I am fine, flying thru my tasks and such and then boom!  i am done.  I sometimes swig a tblspoon of molasses.. the sugar high and iron gives me a couple hours.  (if you are sugar sensitive don't over do it).

  • AnacortesGirl
    AnacortesGirl Member Posts: 1,758
    edited November 2011

    Thanks for the input, Mary.  My onc keeps mentioning the lack of estrogen can cause fatigue but I guess I really don't like that answer because it might mean that I will never get my energy back. 

    Today's a better day just because I'm finally getting over the cold/sinus/bronchial thing that I had for the last 3 weeks.  I'm tentatively planning on trying to go back to work in December.  But I afraid it won't be successful since I don't feel like anything has really changed.  Oh well.  Play the hand you're dealt.

  • nancyj1946
    nancyj1946 Member Posts: 16
    edited November 2011

    I went back to my oncologist yesterday and all of my blood work was good, I can't tell you how releived I am.  I guess I am bad about worrying that this thing will come back.  Went to my regular Dr. and he is treating me for a sinus infection. I should of known, because I stay stopped up all of the time. He put me on antibiotics. I hope that they will give my energy back. Now I feel better just knowing everything is okey.

    Nancy

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