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  • TallM
    TallM Member Posts: 1,596
    edited November 2011

    The last part on my post should say Tappy:)

  • WIMusicMaker
    WIMusicMaker Member Posts: 78
    edited November 2011

    Dear October Ladies,

    I am so sorry to hear from so many of you about the pain, both physical and mental, of losing your hair. Your head does feel a lot better once the hair is gone. I asked my beautician about caring for a bald head and she told me to still use shampoo and conditioner. My head was really tender at first but as it has been exposed it is less sensitive.

    I have to confess I have been holding out on you. I was waiting for my appointment today. I had my 2nd chemo on 11/1. It was my first A/C because I was allergic to T/C. On day 3 post chemo I started to get a tightness in my chest. It continued off and on over the next few days until it got so bad I was having trouble breathing and made a trip into the ER. After getting some oxygen, having many tests and 6 hours of time, I was sent home. Over the past few days, I have felt the tightness off and on.

    Today at my doctor's appointment it was decided I will have another heart echo next week and delay treatment a week to Nov 29 to hopefully allow the tightness to go away. Depending on the results of the echo and how I am feeling I might end up stopping chemo. The echo may decide it for me if there is some kind of damage. I would still have 6 1/2 weeks of rads and tamoxifen. I would be lying if I didn't say that I am doing jumping jacks at the possibility of never having chemo and terrified at the possibility of not completing my chemo regimen!

    So I will be playing the waiting game to see what the next step will be for me.....

    Here's hoping this evening finds all of you well with minimal side effects. 

  • sue_from_wi
    sue_from_wi Member Posts: 40
    edited November 2011

    I've been reading along but not posting much. You all are an inspiring, funny and warm group of women.

    Perts1 - I'm trying your lemon-ginger recipe. Ramping up the fluid consumption for Tx #3 tomorrow and I'm already sick of water.

    Anyone else using acupuncture to help get through this? My acupuncturist put ear seeds in last time for nausea and gave me some magnets which I applied when the symptoms started to build. I didn't have to use Zofran at all after Tx #2 so I believe it was beneficial. I'm all for using meds if needed but I like to try other things first. 

     

  • TallM
    TallM Member Posts: 1,596
    edited November 2011

    WIMisicMaker-

    I'm so sorry to hear that news yet I can understand the "excitement" of no more Chemo. I hope the echo reads well & that in the end you can have the final say. I'll keep my fingers crissed for you:) Big Hugs!



    Su-

    Welcome to the group:). I haven't tried acupuncture bit it interest me. I DO however have a very good friend that does regular reflexology Tx on me. I LOVE it & think it helps move things around. Plus it's relaxing:) I'm all for anything that helps to feel better:) As for being sick of h20 have you tried gateraid, vitamin h20, propel, crystal light, or there's the great things called fresh lemon/lime/orange packets in the cooking aisle or by the crystal light type drinks. Ya-h20 is not always tasty w/metal mouth.



  • sue_from_wi
    sue_from_wi Member Posts: 40
    edited November 2011

    Thanks, TallM. Actually, I've been a member practically since Day 1 but infrequent poster. Let me say a warm welcome to you, too Sounds like you have a hard road ahead of you and the lion's heart to win the battle.

    I've never had reflexology but anything that helps you feel better and relax has got to be good. A good practitioner of any kind with a healing touch is a gift from God.

    Perts1 - love the lemon ginger water. However, DS likes it too so I might have to fight him for it!

    WIMusicMaker - tough times and tough wait and tough decision for you. Extra prayers for you tonight.

  • auntienance
    auntienance Member Posts: 4,216
    edited November 2011
    MusicMaker -- hoping chemo has caused no permanent damage for you.  I understand your ambivalence about finishing chemo.  I've been having so many stomach issues this go around, if the MO can't fix this, I'm not sure I can take two more tx, but I'm terrified not to.  Best of luck to you whatever you decide.
  • TallM
    TallM Member Posts: 1,596
    edited November 2011

    Indeed it is a long road. When I first found out I had bilateral IBC I was a bit shocked & felt like I was watching a movie w/life going by. Then I kept getting headache & found shortly after that it was in my brain. The whole shock process started over. I just take it a day @ a time & find that's best sometimes. If I were to always look at how long reality will be I think I'd go crazy. I have an amazing support group & an amazing group of ladies here that have helped see me through some rough days.



    I'm appositive person & find that it helps so much esp for those caring for me now. My parents have moved from there nice home (in another state) to my 2 bedroom apt to care for my every need as I really am not able to do anything right now. That should change when the brain Chemo is done. Fingers Crossed.



    Enough of that. We all have made it through Oct & it's part way through Nov. Time seems robbed going fast & slow all @ the same time. Hope everyone has a great day or better than today. I know my day was better today & tomorrow already looks to be. I keep telling myself I'll be well enough Frj so I can start the countdown on brain Chemo once again & get it over with!



    Take care & sweet dreams. Here's hoping we can sleep tonight!

    Hugs-Malinda

  • cfdr
    cfdr Member Posts: 549
    edited November 2011

    Musicmaker, hope the test don't show anything too bad. Understand your ambivalence. There are positives either way!

    I got acupuncture years ago for migraine (didn't help) but stopped after I got cellulitis from one of the needles...the base of my thumb turned red and swelled up like a balloon. And this was from a reputable acupuncturist, apparently it is one of the risks of acupuncture. Although the cancer support center near me offers free acupuncture, I certainly would not get it during chemo, or anywhere that might have lymphedema. 

  • TallM
    TallM Member Posts: 1,596
    edited November 2011

    cfdr-

    Thx for that info. I agree it's prob not a good idea to get it durring Chemo. And I will NOT get it after at least anywhere near my arms. Since I'll have to have all my lymph nodes removed on both side te risk of cellulitis way out weigh the benefits. Any nick, scrape, cut scratch on either arm is a risk. Also no BP, blood draws or anything from the arms after the lymph (even the centinal node is removed) but then that's your choice & between you & your Drs. I just have seen it firsthand to many times that any needle will NOT go near my arms. Cellulitis is not something to play around with!



    I guess I feel strongly about that:o. I hope you all have a great day. I know I'm already feeling better & I'm planing in staring my brain Chemo countdown starting again Fri:) Yeah for our healing bodies so we can give our cancer a run for it's money:)



    Hugs to all-

    Malinda

  • Normandy18
    Normandy18 Member Posts: 30
    edited November 2011

    Hi All:

    I have been reading discussions, but not posting much. I am busy at work and really tired this time round.

    I did have my head shaved to a 1/4 of an inch last Wednesday--then asked my husband to shave it even closer n Thursday because I was losing so much of my hair that the stubble was getting everywhere. When I showered, I looked like I had a beard:-)

    The second cycle seemed a bit more difficult then the first round.More nausea and a killer headache.

    Take care!

  • TallM
    TallM Member Posts: 1,596
    edited November 2011

    Normandy18-

    Good luck w/this round:o I'm starting my 2nd round Mon. I hope your SE get better. Not fun times. It sounds like your husband is a good support to you. Just remember were all there with you & none of us will go through this alone:). The October group is a STRONG group of ladies & are here to help lift you up. My thoughts will be with you this week:)



    Hugs-

    Malinda

  • perts1
    perts1 Member Posts: 62
    edited November 2011

    The doc started me on an antibiotic for the breast redness, etc. so they think it might be something that started as a nipple infection.  I have no idea but will be watching it closely.  Tx 2 was Tuesday and can't complain too loudly.  The lemon ginger water helps with hydration and Claritin and Aleve keep me comfortable (thank you for that piece of advice ladies!).  I feel like my bald head stinks so am washing my "hair" (scalp) more than ever.  DH says I don't stink but I think it does!  We're just about to make it through another week!  We are awesome!!!!

  • TallM
    TallM Member Posts: 1,596
    edited November 2011

    Indeed we are awesome. A tip I got from a hairstylist. Just use conditioner on your hair/head to help from the drying effects of the shampoo. I haven't tried it yet as I've had an external port for awhile but plan on trying it when I can shower.



    perts1-

    I'm sure your head doesn't smell bad:). Every morning I wake up it smells like a urinal. Bleack! I know it's not me & my b-room is clean it's just a morning thing & goes away after a little while. Strange things w/Chemo:).



    Here's to another great day. My fever final broke last night (as I sweat throughout:) Things are lining up for the brain Chemo to begin again Fri. WOOT! WOOT! The sooner those are done the better! Kudos to all of us roaring women!



    Hugs-

    Malinda

  • julsjewels11
    julsjewels11 Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2011

    TallM-way to fight back-your attitude is amazing. Sounds like we are all struggling with one side effect or another and it seems that we must be flexible one day to the next as far as what we can tolerate and the changes that sometimes are needed. All in all, it's pretty scarey and out of our control. Heart issues have always worried me too although I seem to be okay on the A/C- one more to go of that- then Taxol- it worries me too because of the possible allergic reaction. One day at a time I guess.

    As an aside....I feel I am getting to know all of you through snipits that we share about our personal lives. Does anyone else wonder what our age span is? I am 59. Is anyone else willing to share this info? If not, doesn't matter- it's personal I know-just interesting.

    Hope everyone is coping. Today the bottoms of my feet are really sore- what next?

    Hugs and positive thoughts...and love...to all,    Juls

  • auntienance
    auntienance Member Posts: 4,216
    edited November 2011
  • TallM
    TallM Member Posts: 1,596
    edited November 2011

    I'm 37 & hope to have a LONG life. I have so much I want to do & plan on. It's not going to be ca that gets me but old age:). I'm an adjunct professor at Weber State University (going on 10yrs this year) & a nurse (new nurse as of April 2009) at the Ogden Clinic urgent care center here. I LOVE my jobs & they've been so understanding to pick up the slack & help since I've not been able to work for awhile.



    I plan to become a HUGE IBC supporter, do benefit concerts & lectures when I get well enough. I'm a pianist & have performed all over the world. I plan to put my music & nursing to good use to bring more awareness to this nasty disease! Everyone should have support & age 40 is TO late to be check for breast cancer!!! I think the age should go BACK to 35 for a baseline! I'm not the only one in this boat to be younger than 40!



    juls-there's my spiel. I've found that since I have ca I really spill my guts:on My opinions, ideas, thoughts have all been accelerated! A SE if chemo not sure. I usual stay to myself & give my opinion occasionally. Not any more evidently. I guess have one more thing that I'm passionate about! Cancer & kicking it's but right out of here!



    Hugs to all for the fight is on today!

    Malinda



  • julsjewels11
    julsjewels11 Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2011

    Hi Nancy: I wonder if we're the "oldies" in this group? ( Maybe the reason for our severe tummy issues!) I find warm water as opposed to cold seems to be more soothing and ginger cookies are good. Are you having any relief yet? Mine was worst withing the first week after tx, seems to be more controlable now.

    TallM-wow-look at you go! Thanks for sharing so freely your information. What an accomplished young woman you are-and you are right, you have so much more to offer and succeed in. Indeed,this jouney might just teach us all something...to be more forthright, honest with ourselves,be more compassionate and enjoy life to the fullest- how philosophical is that?I have had the priviledge of being a stay at home mom to our 2 daughters and am now determined to be the best nana ever to our four grandchildren. I've got to be around a long time for them!

    Hope everyone is coping today, thoughts and love are with you,    Juls

  • TallM
    TallM Member Posts: 1,596
    edited November 2011

    juls-lol

    You are young at heart I can tell:). Age is relative & 59 is still young:). I've had te nasty stomach issues too. Bloated beyond belief, Gassy, D (finally under control thanks to Lomotil & citrucel). Now to get rid of the NASTY hemroids! Ouch those little suckers hurt:o There getting better slowly I think (at least that's what I'm telling myself:)



    Take care all & stay strong:)



    Hugs-

    Malinda

  • NancyJill
    NancyJill Member Posts: 218
    edited November 2011
    I'm 46 but Taxotere was bad for my stomach, or maybe it was the Cytoxan. I am off it. Only 6 more weeks of weekly Navelbine/Herceptin, then rads, Herceptin every 3 weeks after that, and Tamoxifen for 5 years. Stomach is not normal but the cramping is much reduced. A nutritionist said try a probiotic. Maybe I will.....
  • perts1
    perts1 Member Posts: 62
    edited November 2011

    Sounds like I'm the oldie, here, at 63.  Re: the hemorhoids  -  try keeping everything moving freely like with Miralax.  The more freely everything moves the less stress on the hems.  Just found that out yesterday.  Evidently the swollen, red breast could be a form of lymphedema.  I'll call tomorrow if it doesn't get better. 

  • Lady-di
    Lady-di Member Posts: 150
    edited November 2011

    Hi everyone,

    46 here, and Malinda, I agree with you that 40 is not early enough to be screened! In my support group there is also a girl who is 32. I do think that it can be a doctors call to start earlier, if you have a family history.

  • TAPPY
    TAPPY Member Posts: 283
    edited November 2011

    51 here.    I tried work again today...I tiny bit better, but I told my boss I dont know if I can take the stress right now.

    I know the girl covering for me is tired of it andI feel bad about that.  :(

    But I do believe it would be best if I just took STD and worked on getting well and if they replace me oh well (I am an HR director of a regional bank office) - so it is not like they have some one who is doing my job.

    Had  chest xray and it was clear, but white counts were really low....this AC chemo is kicking my booty .....but starting a new antibotic med today for this "bad cold", is anyone else sick of taking meds ?   All I do is pop pills.....sick of being sick.

    Does anyone else have these anger issues ?  I feel mad all the time - but I dont know who or what for, and I feel like I take it out on my family, I really want my old self back....I hate feeling bad....I was never a good patient.

    Hope all the other OCT ladies are feeling good....prayers and cyber hugs out to all of you.  You all inpsire me daily...and I know you all understand.

  • Terry71
    Terry71 Member Posts: 293
    edited November 2011

    Just turned 40 in July was diagnosed at 39 in june 

  • WIMusicMaker
    WIMusicMaker Member Posts: 78
    edited November 2011

    I am 50 and hoping for a much better 51.

  • Normandy18
    Normandy18 Member Posts: 30
    edited November 2011

    I turned 54 in July and was diagnosed at 53 last April.

  • TallM
    TallM Member Posts: 1,596
    edited November 2011

    Good morning ladies-



    Stomach issue help-I've found citrucel to be really good for me it's causes less gas & works really well for me. There is a fine line of diarrhea/constipation w/my med (chemo/oral) I'm sure you all have simiaar situ. I've founda prunes to be helpful too. I go between lomotil (antidiarhea, some like immodium) & colace (stool softener). Everyone is diff but the hems are so pxful. The tucks are priceless as are the savs like aquaphor, hydrocortisone cream (RX) & Dibucaine ointment 1% (OTC).

    I know I've mentioned these before but I can't believe how much these have helped me. Also a good cleanser is one by cetiphil. It's even nice on the hems. It's really gentle & not harsh. Hope this helps

    Someone.



    In an earlier post I nmentioned that I did some reflexology. It's actually called a Foot Zone. The difference is that Foot Zones not only move things around BUT also work with the energys & helps things move by energy & not a forced movement. I'm usually not one of those "wowo" people but found that it really helps & works for me. Non-invassive & I feel SO much better after I have them. What do you ladies do to feel better?



    Wow-so many great ladies on her & YOUNG! Just shows cancer doesn't care who it goes after:o



    Nancy-

    Have you tried yogurt to help replace the good bacteria in your gut? There a good Greek yogurt called Choban that has the fruit in the bottom. That way you can control how sweet or bitter you like. I also put honey on top to help sweeten it if I need more. I try to have 1-2 a day of those (or as many as you want. Its similar to a probiotic idea.



    perts1-

    I hope it's not a lymphodema:o You've had enough to deal w/. Are they going to give you an antibiotic or just keep a watch. Have they talked to you about exercises to help w/the swelling? Movment/exercises can be helpful. Have they talked tonyou about seeing a lymphodema specialist? They can actually help the body re-route the way the lymph nodes swell & help them drain.



    dia123-

    My mom is a 13 yr breast cancer survivor. However she had a completely different kind (Infiltratng invassive lobular interductal breast cancer w/lymph involvement. She has lymphoma but uses her arm. She was told not to use it but finds that if she does there's less px/swelling. She's had celulutis a couple if times (& put in the hospital 1x for it) but has been really lucky since & at the sign of any redness she goes on an antibiotics & is fine. We didn't know what was happening the first when ca was new & her arm got red streaks/blotches first, warm, swollen & she got a fever etc. Anyway-an FYI



    Tappy-

    Your health is first & for most. Hard to hear I know. I love my jobs but I'm realizing going back to the university to teach next semester may be too soon:( I hope to return but I have to heal & take time for me. I also LOVE my work at the urgent care center they've told me my job will be there when I come back & they don't want me to even worry about my job. I've only been there 1 month & 1 month sick. If you've been at your job as long as you have & are that loyal people are usually willing to help out. Every situ is different & I hope you can get some help from them. Have you applied for SSI? I have but it takes about 6 mo to start. I can't wait to get back to work & a somewhat normal life but right now I'm 7 days a week & it's all I can do to make all the appointments. Life definitely is interesting. Never a dull moment. Hang in there. There as saying my aunt in New Zealand says " All for a purpose." We don't always know why things happen but it usually works out better in the end than we could have made it.



    I hope you all have a great day. I'm off to my spinal Chemo today which means I'm strong enough! WOOT! WOOT! The countdown begins again!



    Big Hugs to all you wonderful, strong, beautiful wonderful women:)

    Malinda



  • cfdr
    cfdr Member Posts: 549
    edited November 2011

    Normandy18, we're close in age. I was diagnosed in May and turned 54 in September.

    I work for myself, at home, which makes this a lot easier in many ways. I never had kids, didn't marry until I was 50, and career was my primary focus for 30 years. For 20 of those years, I worked in very demanding "real" jobs, in media and high tech. I suffered through many a work day with a migraine, or severe menstrual cramps, or allergy attacks, or in a brain fog from the antihistamines for my allergies, or simply exhausted from working 14 hours a day and sleeping 5 hours a night. I determined that I would NOT do that through this. I stopped taking on new clients as soon as I was diagnosed, and have gotten down to working only a few hours a week. It makes money a bit tight right now but it's do-able.  My focus is on being happy, healthy and unstressed. If I'm not productive or responsible right now, I'm OK with it. There will be plenty of time for that in 2012 and beyond.

    Even with what's considered an excellent prognosis, there is still about a 1 in 10 chance that I could be dead in 5-10 years. At the very least I want to take these 3 months as a mini-"retirement" in case I'm not around in 16 years to enjoy my real retirement. I'm being very self-indulgent: doing needlepoint when I should be vacuuming, reading a book when I should be working on a client project. I'm doing my best to actually enjoy this time and not just have it be another slog to get work done when I feel like crap.

    I am in awe of those of you who are able to keep working full time and/or raising children through this. I wish you all sympathetic bosses and indulgent husbands who will make this as easy for you as possible.

  • TallM
    TallM Member Posts: 1,596
    edited November 2011

    One more thing:)

    If you haven't tried a sitz bath for the hems I highly recommend it. I sit in one a couple time a day w/the water as warm as I can handle for about 10 mins (whatever you want) with just a little water (whatever you want). The relief is so nice.



    Enough from wordy me. I really am NOT this verbal but ca has changed me.



    Tappy-

    I forgot to mention the anger issue. It is most likely a SE of the meds. I too have noticed this & have to remind myself to say in my head before it comes out. Sometimes it's just not possible & I say something & realize later it was not nice. I do allot of letting the people around me know how much I appreciate them & they understand that I'm not who unusually am. Either is my morphing body. I just tell myself the most important thing right now is to get better then I can go back to my spin, zumba, body sculpt, & yoga classes that I love. Right now it's just not in the cards. Take care & don't be to hard on yourself.

  • sherrybaby
    sherrybaby Member Posts: 80
    edited November 2011

    I haven't posted in a while, but have been keeping up with everyone. I am 42 right now. I am also in awe of all of you who keep right on working through this. There is no way that I could have done it. Luckily I have worked for my company for 22 years so I feel I have earned the time off and I am taking it. 

    cfdr I have also been trying to 'enjoy' my time off by doing things I normally do not have time for like cross stich, crochet and reading. Even though it makes me feel really lazy (and a bit guilty) when I see the dust bunnys in the living room corner I have just decided that they are not the big deal, I am.

    In reference to the anger issues I have had to take steriods at various points in my life (I have alot of inflammatory issues) and have learned over the years that I get downright mean when I am on them. I know that most of us are getting them in one form or another so that might be a point to consider.

    Love and hugs to all of you!!!

  • julsjewels11
    julsjewels11 Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2011

    Good Morning All:

    What a lot of posts since yesterday-I can see we all rely on this forum and need the support and contact...I do anyway. Thanks for sharing ages and life stories- I think it makes us all even closer. I, too am awed at those of you who continue to work-even part time-and those with young ones to care for or no support at home-wow-must be even tougher. I agree that this is not the time to push things-some days I am like a slug- moving from bed to couch to bed again- I feel so useless,demotivated, and frustrated. I am not used to being uninvolved and am not a good patient!

    I also am angry at times, but more so I have been really weepy and sad this time around-crying at almost everything. I am trying to put on a good front for my girls but they end up comforting me-it's just wrong! I suppose it's in part due to the meds but maybe just the situation too.

    Anybody else got sore foot bottoms yet? and sore parts on their hands?

    As far as taking time to do things I like,I read a lot and watch TV series on cd's-takes my mind off things and makes the time pass. I can't wait to get back on track after all this! I also like rides in the country.

    Tappy- hope your cold is on the mend-I'm still hacking up goo- more than four weeks now!

    Anyway ladies- I'm going to watch the Rememberance Day ceremony on TV and think how lucky I am to live in a country where we have such freedoms, and safety and good health care and thank all those who have given their lives to protect all these values....many died so young so that we could be free. We must all be grateful today for that.  have  a good day,

    Love, Hugs and prayers to all,   Juls

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