October 2011 Rads
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So who was doing the playlist for rads? Was thinking Thompson Twins (from the 80's!) Doctor, Doctor. . . . you know the 1st 2 lines of the chorus . . . Doctor, Doctor, can't you see I'm burning, burning. . . . LOL!
Got a new "treasure map" on my chest today. . . . planning for boosts! We had some good laughs getting it done too
No idea what it's called, looks like an upside down wedding cake to me, telescopes the rays toward the chest. . . . Anyway, they had been using one labelled "14" and changed it out for one labelled "6". I mentioned that was the first time I had gone down 8 sizes in one sitting
How I wish I could go from a size 14 to a size 6 that easy!
One of the therapists at my place is always switching languages, joking around. Today the dosimitrist (who is Japanese) came in to check the placement of things for my boosts. While she was there, the therapist started talking in Spanish. The dosimitrist looked at me, I looked at her and told her, I KNOW he isn't talking to me! LOL You had to be there. . . . I'm just happy that we can laugh, and that it is nearing the end!!!
Losing the entire top layer of skin under my arm! Marthah you are right, I'm in a better place today. Emotions are just so crazy. Been up for a day or 2 and that almost makes me scared that a crash is coming! Going to try and keep my chin up. The end is in sight!
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I started reading the "After Breast Cancer" book today. Scary how much her story reminds me of mine, but good reading. I have also found a song that has really been inspiring to me lately as I despair of making the 3 hour round trip yet AGAIN... It is "Strong Enough" by Matthew West. Not radiation themed, but it certainly is uplifting to me.
20 of 34 done... 20 seems like so much more than 19! :-) Keep up the good radiation work, gals!
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Hi all - There's so much chatter that I struggle to keep up with it all but I thoroughly benefit from all the convo! My RO uses the bolus on me every OTHER day. Tomorrow I'm going to ask why that's her approach vs. others here using it every day. I definitely AM glad my skin's holding up so far. Today was #11. Similar to some others, I've been surprisingly down at times and lately am having trouble sleeping (which is really unusual for me). I also fake it well enough that I think family and others forget I'm still in the throes of treatment. Ah well...
Kay - so psyched you're finishing on Friday -- yippee! I'm also a Blackthorn fan - have a fantastic time. Lots of dancing, right?!
Lovetosail - I'm enjoying the rad song suggestions! Thanks for starting this. My time in the rads room, however, is so limited that it wouldn't even make sense for me to bring in my own music. I really love how efficient they are at my place.
Take care all and keep applying the lotion. (Cannot remember who encouraged me to lotion a lot and made the comment that the frequency seemed more important than WHAT we're applying - but I have taken that advice to heart and am being faithful with lotion in multiple rooms and in my purse at all times!!)
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Natters, I can see the hair out of the corner of my eye, and that's without my glasses. And I wear progressive lenses! So you know it's baaaaaaaaad!
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Hi Silia! I was also getting the bollus every other day. Maybe that is a Philly thing. I asked the RO about it and he said the purpose of the bollus is to have more of the radiation go into your skin. He said the places that do it every day stop using it once a patient's skin gets very red. I guess mine got very red because he decided to stop using the bollus on Tuesday. I was only supposed to get two more. Now I only have two more treatments and I think my skin is actually a little better than it was on Monday. Maybe not using the bollus made a difference. I'm not sure, but I think I am going to make it through with no pealing, oozing or blistering. That's a relief. I read in a lot of the older rads threads of women having really horrific things happen to their skin.
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Had boost #2 today, treatment #29, 5 to go. So far, the area of the boost is not getting too red so I am hoping I can go right through. Would mean next week at this time, I will be done!!!!!
The boosts are strange. The machine is so close to your boob. They also used a sharpie marker to outline the area on Mon and looks like it will be with me for awhile. Ends up getting on my shirts, PJ's--hope it washes out!
Sorry for the whining--but I have had enough!
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pam 53 going for boost 3 today also...skin on nipple all came off in shower...now I have a goo to apply and teflon gauze which doesn't stick...I'm getting 5 boosts. My rads have been in prone..up early as breast is sore....but getting ready to cross the finish line.
how is everyone fairing with tiredness and level of energy?
Best to all you wonderful women!
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paintingmywaythru, sorry about the nipple skin, but they took my nipple when they did MX. Maybe that's why I'm not getting boosts? Only 2 more to go.
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I think boosts have more to do with the likelihood the cancer will recur near the scarline. Does anyone know for sure? They debated about doing boosting with me but decided to anyway. I too had an MX that took the nipple, so I'm pretty sure it's not that.
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All the boost discusssion. . . . . I'm going to have to ask today! I had an MX that took everything, and lots of articles I'm reading say that they rarely do boosts after an MX. They were talking about the intramammary node (I had one "clinically positive) so I think that is part of it for me. Actually, that terrifies me, since it is right there where the heart and lung are. Just praying that this is the right thing. So scary--I don't think the cancer can live through all this, just hoping my other vital organs can make it several decades down the road!
Today is my Friday. . . . my machine is having scheduled maintenance tomorrow, so I had a make up day last Sunday. Very glad for the 3 day break for my skin to hopefully get a little head start on healing before the boosts.
Pam: I also have a treasure map on my chest, in sharpie marker! They told me it is very hard to get out (and I'm finding that to be true), so use some old t-shirts or something! I was joking with them yesterday as they did the whole "3cm to the left. . . . . 2cm ant. . . . . okay xxx degrees here". They were laughing at me saying "two paces left, 3 to the right, dig down about 3 feet and share that treasure with me!"
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I have purposely not counted the days. I know its weird but i guess I just don't want the stress of possible missing days to stress me out but its been around at least16 or 17 days if not more of my 33. my skin is holding up well but I hit a brick wall with fatigue this week. Its snuck up on me
. So I have to have someone drive me now- because other than a few blocks I get too sleepy and my Radiology appointments are 45 minutes away. I could barely keep my eyes open on Monday- it was down right scary.
I had already planned a trip to San Diego to visit my brother for this weekend. Its a direct flight there- I will just have to take it easy and not push myself.
wish me luck! Its been years since I have seen him and his family and its just what my heart needs right now even if my body might disagree.
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Beaglesgirl - I'm really worried about the fatigue, because I'm still so weak from chemo. I'm REALLY glad that I live so close to the hospital, I'm able to drive myself right now. My 17YO son gets home from school just before I leave for my treatments, so if I get too tired later on, he can take over the driving (with his learners' permit). That ought to help keep me awake lol!!!! (He's actually an excellent driver). Have a great time in San Diego!
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Beagles, have fun with your family this weekend! You totally deserve it, girl
I'm getting a 3-day weekend, too, because I'm traveling to Miami for work. In fact, I'm typing this from the plane. I love inflight wifi. Anyway, it's good that flight is a direct and that you have your family to take care of you on the other side.
I'm not looking forward to the Treasure Map on my chest wfor boosts. They still haven't tattooed me so I am wearing outfits that deliberately hide my large sharpie marks. And hairy armpit. Turns out all my cute and summery going-out tops are sleevelessThe tech offered today when she heard I was going South, but I needed to rush to the airport.
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Hi all...I am not getting any treasure map..they use green and red beams and align me with my tattoos for my boosts. I am getting rads in prone and when they went to do the simulation for boosts they found that it was going to be in the same place so I guess I can't find treasure!
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Paintingmywaythru,
When are you scheduled to finish? If I pass the MD visit on Mon, I will finish on Wed. She put me on hold in the past and I hope that does not happen again! So far, so good. Boost area is not too red.
Like the treasure map, made me laugh. I think I am just getting tired of it all. This morning I was in the shower, hating the "treasure map", the special soap, the deodorant that doesn't work, the hairy armpits, the lotion 4 times per day, the inability to wear a bra, exposing my boobs to techs everyday--Hee hee--can you tell I am ready to be done!!!!
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aww Pam I get the whole tired of it. Knowing I have just NINE more gives me strength to go on.
Got kind of ticked off at one of the techs today. They took a super long time to do the simulation for my boosts. No one told me to expect a longer appt, and I needed to go pick up my kids from theater club! I never complained, but at the end he made the comment that if I had just let him do the other 2 tatoos he wanted, then it would have been easier. Ugh. Easier for THEM, but what about ME, that has to live with the marks for the rest of her life? The day they gave me the tatoos I cried, I was so upset, and he was there. I guess he just doesn't get it, and I'm letting it go, but it really irked me at the time.
On the positive side, I was really GLAD that they took a long time. They were going back and forth over 2 mm of space, but they are radiating right next to my heart, and I'm happy they are being so precise. The boosts will just be 2 fields, and one beam in each, so that will be nice too--less time! Up to now they have been radiating 5 fields! I did feel a little sorry for all the other people waiting. . . . when I got there there was only 1 other person, when I came out (an HOUR later) the room was full! yikes.
Robyn so sorry to hear of the fatigue. I find it very strange myself. I'm fine as long as I'm moving. . . lying on the table for an hour it was SO HARD to get up! Driving I do feel my reactions are slower, later in the day. May end up having hubby drive me to the last few--good he is on vacation then!
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I have read that radiation fatigue is much less than chemo fatigue, but I am not finding that to be the case for me. I have been SO TIRED this week! I am grateful when someone can drive me (hard to find people who have time to drive 3 hours a day!). Monday was pretty scary- I had my 2 year old in the car and couldn't stop yawning. I panicked a little about the drive home but I know God was watching out for us and we made it safely.
I'm going to ask my RO for details about my boosts tomorrow. Wondering if I am going to have a treasure map too :-)
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pam53 ..I have 2 more boosts and then I am done..have this rad onc form NYU who does prone and beleived that 5 boosts would work for me. She also found I did not need a different position for prone...surprising but I think she knows what she is doing.
Abatellick..I have to drive 45 minutes when I leave form home and yes it is weird..soemtimes I leave radiation and feel very weak..my heart races, feel like I cna't quite catch my breath and feel I need to go very slow..other times I am OK. I find having an OJ int he car seems to give me a boost but that may jsut be in my mind.
the techs told me that the rads will still cause some increase in color change for up to 2 weeks after the rads stop...I don't like that...since the skin on my nipple has all shed itself I am on to Proshield Plus with teflon gauze over it.... still hurts like hell...what a sensitive area...sorry to complain...cranky near the end but excited for the end and anxious about the end and not being looked out for on a daily basis.
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Hi all,
So happy to hear so many of you are in the final days or week of rads. I missed a day here and there is so much good info - love the Doctor Doctor song :-)
I had my sim appointment today. I finally decided to continue at Sloan and not go to the 2nd opinion med center. I opted for the 25 day rads plus boost. I turned down the ten day after reading the trial proposals and many papers. I had breast conserving surgery, and if I get a reurrene then I start over with a mx. Yes, it's a possibility with full breast or partial breast rads, but I am taking the insurance. I know my left breast had cancer, and I want to insure against missed cells. Oh was it ever tempting.....
So, after weeks of anxiety, I got through. It was shorter than I expected, and I was surprised that the entire sim was done in the CT scan room. I thought I'd go to the rads lab. It was really hard to lie still. But I spent days upping my allergy meds. Last night I started xanax and all told, I think I used 3.5 in 24 hours - a huge amount for me. When I went in, I quietly told the NP exactly what I needed to know to get through. i couldn't have breaks or water, had to lie the whole time; but the sweet NP brought me my favorite remedy (a Listerine dissolvable strip which dissolves in my mouth, giving moisture and has sinus-clearing properties) - she "rewarded me" after each long session.
I spent all morning setting up my iPod shuffle and it was so calming to me - I convinced them to let me clip it to my hair and I taped up the head phone wires. I only used one ear so I could hear their instructions.
Am waiting for the program and will start soon.
My NP washed off my markers. she gave me the tatoos and no pain at all. I cannot even see them. That to me was the easy part. I hope I don't have too many long sessions ahead....but when I do, I will bring a driver and use the xanax.
Noone has given me instructions yet about stopping the Arimidex, or not shaving. I guess that will come next time.
Everyone here has been so supportive and helpful to me....I will be checking in here just because I really want to know how y'all are doing. Some of you will start hormone suprressors - I am on week #5 - had aches and joint pain, but when I started steroids for my allergies, the pains went away.
Only downer now? I will probably be starting the week of Tgiving and they are open the day after. That's my BD and I want it off already! That would make a 4 day break in the first week. I doubt that is happening.....
I took off work today, went to the Cheesecake factory for avocado spring rolls after my appt., and decided to take off tomorrow, Veterans Day, to spend it with DH as he is retired fro military. We'll go hiking, rain or shine, out at Montauk Point.
Hugs and good rest to all,Joan
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Hi ladies!! I am sorry I have been MIA, I have just been super tired and have so much going on!! I started my boosts on tuesday, will have 5 of them, finishing on monday YAAYY!!
On the skin reaction part - so my skin was okay (behaved) for the first 3-4 weeks then BAM it darkened all around the top to my underarm. The SNB scar on my underarm is reacting bad to radiation and its red and blistered! the area under my radiated breast is blistered and so painful!! I have also shifted to using Proshield Plus and teflon gauze!! all in all I am in pain and discomfort!! this makes me annoyed and sad!! I am dark skinned and was told that radiation can sometimes be tougher on dark skinned (I dont know), was told that skin will return in about 2 weeks after rads!
I have also been extremely tired lately! working full time all through chemo and radiation and having 2 kids (under the age of 5) at home has not been easy for me. My commute is also tough! I live out of the city and work in the city, takes me approx 1 hour to get to work. The Cancer Ctr is close to my house (abt 20 mins drive) but because i normally go there from work, i have to drive by my house uurrgghh... so its work until 3pm then run out of the door, radiation at 4.30pm then go get the kids from preschool (sometimes hubby takes them) then home get dinner togehter, then bath time then bedtime at 8pm! by the time they are in bed i am like pphheeewww....but lately the fatigue is just so unbearable and i started to get these weird headaches, like stress like... Soo i decided to take some time off work and jsut rest and recuperate. I called HR yday to apply for the FMLA and Short term disability, the HR person was like "I am surprised you did not call me 4 weeks ago!!"
I have noticed that i also cant sleep, been taking lunesta every other day but still cannot sleep through out the night, i stay awake for some time and by the time i get to sleep its time to wake up!! and because i am working, cannot even take naps :-( this plus my fatigue makes me very agitated and stressed on the smallest thing!! So i am hoping the rest will do me good!! I am also starting yoga next week (it is part of the wellness program at my hosp so i get it for free) I also found out that my insurance pays a percent of other wellness activities like massage etc.. i think i will take advantage of it.
I am sending you well wishes, lets hang in there,the end is near!!
Have a blessed and great weekend!
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I am finished!!!! I rang the bell at rads today. My DH came up with the idea of a pretzel tray to bring for the techs. It was very nice, had 192 soft pretzel nuggets, a couple kinds of mustard and some nacho cheese to dip them in. (I'm in Philly and fortunately or unfortunately what it is known for here are cheese steaks and soft pretzels.) The techs were very appreciative of it. 2 of the techs who have been there for almost all my treatments weren't there today. A little disappointing, but they took me almost 45 minutes before my 11:15 appointment, and I think they were coming in at 11, so will get to partake. It's been such a crazy day (in a good way). I was brushing my teeth this morning and the radio was on. I wasn't paying any attention at all. But I hear them announce my DH's full name on the radio and some how that got my attention. He was down stairs, but I called him up. He had e-mailed the station and asked them to play a set for me for the last day of radiation. What a shock it was to me. They played Sheryl Crow Make it Go Away (a song about radiation), Adele Someone Like You (my current favorite song) and KT Tunstall Black Horse on a Cherry Tree (because DH calls me Katie and I loved when Kat McPhee sang that song on American Idol). I was talking a mile a minute at radiation and am usually a very quiet person. I was not expecting today to really hit me like it did. After I was still kind of giddy and high, but when I was in the changing room, tears just started streaming down my face. And it totally hit me as I was leaving and a blind gentleman was entering with someone helping him for his first tx. I showed them how the gowns were all set up in the changing rooms and wished him luck and told him I just finished txs. Went out, met DH and rang the bell as I was leaving. Got a round of applause from the people there. I hope it helped someone. Then went out to lunch with my sister and DH, and the partying is continuing tonight as we're going to a Black Thorn concert and going out to dinner on Sunday with DH, DS and DD. DS has to work tonight and tomorrow night. This almost rival's my DD's week long b-day celebrations.
This was so long winded, thanks for letting me get it all out. I think because I still have to go back to cancer center through May every three weeks for Herceptin, it wasn't going to feel like a very big deal to me, but I was surprised by all the emotion that came out. And I choose to believe I was leaving just at 11:11 on 11/11/11. That has to be a good omen. I'll share the good luck with all of you.
Have a great weekend everyone.
Hang in there Joan811, and I hope you get your b-day off too.
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Congrats Kay! I sure do miss those soft pretzels. Having a friend visit in a couple of weeks, she's supposed to bring some with her. The Spicy brown mustard is my favorite.
I had my #10 of 30 this morning, so far radiation has been a complete breeze compared to chemo. I've had no SE's at all and I'm in and out first thing in the morning. Waiting for my bubble to burst, I'm expecting to burn really bad as I'm so fair skinned.
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Thanks McCrimmon! I had 28. You will get there. I am about as fair as you can get and the RO told me it had nothing to do with burning. The residents and nurses told me I'd burn since I was so fair though. (Damn Irish Genes!)
I burned, I am pretty red, but nothing ever got painful and still so far not peeling or blistering, so not nearly as bad as some people have faired. (HaHa, had to get that pun in there.) Good luck to you with the rest of your treatments.
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Apparently we have 2 things in common, Philly and our Damn Irish Genes! LOL, let's hope come out of this as well as you have.
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Congratulations on finishing up Rads Kay1963!
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How exciting Kay!!! Congrats! I'm so envious that you have the energy to do all the partying
They don't have a bell where I get my rads, but they give you a certificate. I can't wait to finish!! Enjoying my 3 day weekend since machine is down today.
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Kay1963,
Congrats on finishing....Hurrah! The last day IS emotional, but you've been thru a lot! Now let the healing begin! See you on the Radiation Recovery board..... ( ain't graduation grand?) -
Kay, so glad you are done
...and it is encouraging to hear that you fared and faired well. I, too, have English-Irish skin....we'll see.
I think your emotional reaction is more than justified! What a nice surprise from your DH. Best wishes and lots of rest for you!
I will have to add Make It Go Away to my iPod.
I was emotional that I got through just the sim after worrying and whining for a month....I hugged the technician who was so kind to me.
Snoopy, sorry to hear about your tenderness - I feel kind of worried about that SNB scar near my underarm...it's still pretty pink. I guess there isn't anything to put on to protect it, except afterwards. You surely have the tough situation with the little ones. And to drive twice through Boston and then some....wow. I am about 35 miles from med center but it's 13 miles from my job so it may work. Hang in there for the last of the boosts. What a good decision to take that longer block of time off - a very wise step. I usually get about 4 to 6 hours sleep a night. Last night I slept 9 hours - I guess it was from the Xanax hangover. You need your sleep!
I took yesterday and today off - loving the 4 day week end.
Cheers to all who are in the home stretch this week.
Joan
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I don't think the skin SEs have anything to do with fair skin because I have olive skin that tans easily (thank you, Medietrranean ancestors) and I already have an impressive rads burn, after only 8 tx. To be fair (ha ha) that is not a part of my body that has ever been tan, but even what I call "the white meat" is darker than many other women's skin.
Kay - congratulations!!! I am green with envy. May you heal quickly and feel 100% better by the time Thanksgiving rolls around.
I am definitely not feeling any fatigue yet. I went for a pretty challenging 2.5 hour canoe trip around Miami last night in 20mph winds. My new friend could not believe I was undergoing rads, when I told her about it afterward. I think I'm fine because I didn't have to undergo chemotherapy, my surgery was also fairly simple (lump, no SNB) and I'm in good physical condition. Also, I don't have kids, so I probably get more sleep and downtime than all you moms out there...
I will confess that I accidentally went for a swim twice last night - don't remember them telling me not to go swimming in the ocean but I'm pretty sure that the salt water wasn't the best thing for my skin. They did tell me not to take multiple showers, but I had to get all the salt off me before bed, too....
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Congratulations Kay!
For me it's 4 down, 24 to go!!!!
Picking up new puppy Jasper in about an hour. Hoping he'll be the incentive I need to get up off the couch and get some exercise!!!!!
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