Got my first glove today......

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prayrv
prayrv Member Posts: 941
edited June 2014 in Lymphedema

I got my glove today, it fits (except my palm-seems like there is an air pocket there, so the palm might be swollen but that's another story). 

Question - how the heck am I to wash my hands??????????????       Do I take the glove off or what?

Thanks,

Trish

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  • kira66715
    kira66715 Member Posts: 4,681
    edited November 2011

    Trish: you have to take the glove off to wash you hands: I pull the fingers off so it doesn't go inside out.

    Gloves are funny--they tend to have an air pocket on the palm--if the lack of palm compression causes swelling, you can pop a palmar swell spot in their.

    Binney's fitter does something complicated where she makes the palm measurement larger to increase the compression on the top of the hand (or vice versa).

    Arms are essentially simple cylinders and easy to compress. Hands are difficult and there's this law of LaPlace that says if you compress a rectangular area (the hand) the pressure will be greatest on the sides and not the front or back (dorsum or palm)--the way around it is to make the hand as circular as you can with padding.

    http://solarismed.com/products/swell-spots/112-swell-spots-product-gallery 

    Does the glove make your hand better?

    Kira 

  • vlnrph
    vlnrph Member Posts: 1,632
    edited November 2011

    I've been curious about palm gap since picking up my Juzo on Saturday morning. Wonder if I can hold a violin bow with pads in place...

    Also began to think about health care workers going into cold & flu season because we have to be so conscious of hand washing. Does alcohol gel damage the fibers if you try to use it just on the exposed finger tips (in a "pinch" when no soap/water available)?

  • kira66715
    kira66715 Member Posts: 4,681
    edited November 2011

    We had a link on stepupspeakout during the swine flu first season: it's a real issue. Most health care workers can not wear gloves if involved in clinical work, as you have to wash your hands between patients and the gloves can become contaminated--hypothetically you could wear a vinyl glove over the compression glove.

    Binney and I got involved with an issue where a complaint was lodged against an ER nurse who had worn sleeve and glove for three years and suddenly infection control was raising alarms.

    In the UK, the rule is "bare from the elbows down"--no lab coats, ties, jewelery--so a glove/sleeve are an issue. (And yet the curtains between patient cubicles are loaded with germs..)

    If the glove doesn't contact the palm much, but the palm doesn't swell, you can decide if you need palm compression. A small piece of foam can do as well as a swell spot.

    Here's the hygiene stuff from stepupspeakout

    http://www.stepup-speakout.org/How_You_Can_Cope_with_Lymphedema.htm#GLOVES_AND_HYGIENE Gloves/Gauntlets/Sleeves and Hygiene

    With everybody telling us to wash our hands frequently, I'm looking for solutions to the problem of how to keep my gloves clean throughout the day. I've written to a number of garment makers, but they're pretty much clueless (some are surprised nobody's asked them that before!) Here's what I've discovered so far:

    Wearing plastic gloves over my compression gloves makes my hands sweat instantly and soaks my compression gloves in a matter of minutes -- miserably uncomfortable, and not especially helpful from the standpoint of fungal infections either.
    Alcohol applications like Purell will ruin the fabric of our compression garments.
    Dry cleansers like dry shampoo give your hair a lift by cutting down on the grease, but they don't actually clean anything.
    Dry antiseptics have nasty things in them like boric acid that you wouldn't want on your hands.
    I can take my gloves off and wash my hands a lot when I'm doing anything messy or unhygienic (even though with compression garments that's not very easy), but that doesn't prevent them from collecting germs and crud from doorknobs or other innocent-looking surfaces.


    I can (and do) just wash my gloves throughout the day while they're still on my hands, using hot water and Ivory or Dove hand soap. I dry them on a thick towel just like I would my hands alone, but of course they're still damp. I can't handle books or papers until they dry (here in the desert that only takes 15 or 20 minutes). But if it's cold (think, air conditioning) that doesn't work,because my hands freeze. And if I lived somewhere humid it wouldn't be a good idea to leave my hands damp for long enough for it to dry out.

    And here's a tip from one of the garment makers: For goodness sake wash the things every day! - Binney


    As a pianist who plays with gloves occasionally, you might find these good for over-gloves - you could wear them over your gloves in public:http://www.gallawayb2b.com/Products/Inspection-Gloves They are a stretchy (not too stretchy) nylon...and come in cotton too. I found that the cotton lose their shape, however, they absorb dirt and oils better and thus are a bit more tactile. The nylon ones are slippery. I have a typical woman's size hand and I ordered woman's which I wear alone. The nylon ones wash great in the laundry (with bleach even). The cotton ones shrink. you could always get a man's size. I find them pretty easy to work with. I can type and play the piano while wearing them. I wear the nylon ones all the time in the winter. I found that you can turn the gloves inside out and trim off the extra fabric along the finger seams for extra dexterity. - apple


    If you are dealing with a situation where you know your compression gloves will be in water or in a situation where they will get very wet, be sure to wear either surgical gloves, dishwashing or rubber garden gloves over your compression gloves. We don't want our compression gloves to stay wet long enough to develop a breeding ground for fungus. For regular protection from germs and dirt, I prefer the stretch nylon gloves mentioned by Apple at Stretch Nylon Inspectors Gloves ~ Gallawayb2b.com. (Picture Above). They fit nicely over compression gloves. I order them by the dozen. I keep several pair with me in my handbag, so I can put a fresh pair on frequently, then wash them all at night and start my day off with several clean pairs of nylon gloves and surgical gloves in my bag. It has made a real difference in my feeling safer at keeping germs and dirt at bay. You can also easily dye the nylon gloves to match your various outfits--OneBadBoob


    One thing I do in public restrooms is grab a paper towel before I turn off the water, use the towel to turn off the water so I'm not touching the dirty handle with my clean hand. I also use a towel to open the door when I leave. Of course, then I'm out in the world without a clean paper towel, and I do touch things, but I also have developed some little tricks to avoid getting germs on my hands: I push the elevator button with my elbow, and I use the hem of my shirt or my sleeve (if I'm wearing long sleeves) to open doors or flip switches. - aprilintexas


    When I have to use a keyboard that is used by others, I wipe it down with an anti-septic wipe. Phones too. - Kira


    On that note, don't use the 'community pen' at businesses when writing checks or noting use of your check card in your register or signing in on the guest register at businesses. - lvtwoqlt
    Also, cough and sneeze into your elbow or tissue, not your hands. - leaf


    To keep both your glove and sleeve clean at the gym, try wearing a cotton glove and a stockinette over your sleeve. - Binney

    Still don't know if it's a good idea to get your gloves wet.

    Kira 

  • prayrv
    prayrv Member Posts: 941
    edited November 2011

    Kira,

    It definately takes some getting used to.  My hand didn't "feel" bad before, but it feels different now.  I also am wearing a sleeve and it feels fine. 

    I'll update as the week progresses.

    Trish

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