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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    Women with breast cancer continue to smoke, drink

    September 29, 2011

    New research shows that Australian women are prepared to make lifestyle changes, such as altering  their diet, following diagnosis with breast cancer, however they are unwilling to give up alcohol and cigarettes - increasing their risk of further cancers.

    Associate Professor Robin Bell, Deputy Director of the Women's Health Group at Monash University led the research, published in the journal Supportive Care in Cancer

    The longitudinal study surveyed 1500 Victorian women about their smoking and drinking habits on two occasions. The first time was between 2004 and 2006, when women were asked about smoking and drinking at the time of their breast cancer diagnosis. The participants were surveyed again two years later.

    Findings showed that two out of three women who were smokers when their breast cancer was diagnosed continued to smoke cigarettes.

    Alcohol consumption is a known risk factor for breast cancer and women already diagnosed with breast cancer are at risk of both recurrence and development of another primary breast cancer. However, one in 12 study participants continued to drink more than four drinks per occasion, at least once a week. 

    Australian Government guidelines recommend drinking no more than two drinks per day.

    Professor Bell said more support was needed for women with breast cancer to adopt evidence based changes for a healthier lifestyle.

    "We know that around the time of diagnosis of serious disease people make changes to their lifestyle. In this study about one-third of women made some change to their diet and one-third to their physical activity.

    "However, not all the changes being made are based on solid evidence. For example, some women eliminate dairy products, which is not evidence based.

    "In contrast, there is no argument that stopping smoking and choosing to moderate alcohol intake are good things to do. However, the women who would benefit most from making these lifestyle changes seem to choose not to, or aren't getting help to do so," Professor Bell said.

    "The outlook for women diagnosed with breast cancer continues to improve. Overall, five-year survival for women diagnosed is nearly 90 per cent, and even higher for women diagnosed in the early stages of the disease,

    "Women with breast cancer should be looking to optimize their health for the years beyond their diagnosis. This includes making healthy life choices that will prevent the development of a new breast cancer or a recurrence of past disease." 

    Provided by Monash University

     medicalxpress.com/news/2011-09-women-breast-cancer.html

    I wouldn't be surprised if the same were true for American women.  

    ETA : Alcohol Link to Breast Cancer Reaffirmed
     

    November 1, 2011
    Results from a large study confirm the link between regularly drinking alcohol and an increase in breast cancer risk. Read more...

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

     DR. THOMAS LODI   (KEVIN GIANNI'S NOTES)

    How to measure inflammation.

    Dr. Thomas Lodi starts his talk by explaining inflammation and how to test for it.  Where there's chronic inflammation there is disease.  You can take a blood test and measure you're CRP - or C-reactive protein - and this will show you signs on inflamation. Optimal levels are less than 1.0 mg/L.

    To reduce CRP, if it's high, adopting the preventative type diet that many of these experts recommend usually does the trick. This includes no processed foods, a high plant based diet and a focus on reducing stress levels. You can ask any doctor to test your CRP and it's covered by most insurance.

    True Integration... a mix of Western medicine and natural understanding of biology.

    Dr. Lodi uses IPT or insulin potentiated therapy in his treatment protocols. Here's how this works...Cancer cells require glucose to function because they have anaerobic metabolism - meaning little or no oxygen. Because these cells need glucose, they have extra insulin receptors that will help bring the glucose through the cell's wall. So to administer the therapy, the patient is given insulin to load up the receptors, then given glucose and chemotherapy (a low dose.)

    This process increases the drug's deliverablity to the cancer cells. It's a pretty interesting mix of Western medicine and a natural understanding of the body's chemistry.

    If you want to learn more about this from a third party source (though not unbiased,) you can go here... http://iptq.com/

    How IV vitamin C works...

    Dr. Lodi also explains how high dose IV treatment with Vitamin C works. The Vitamin C reacts with copper or iron in the body and hydrogen peroxide (among other things) is produced. Healthy cells have an enzyme called catalase which can get rid of H2O2, but cancer cells do not. This becomes a very important anti-cancer substance. He also mentions that some insurance companies will pay for this, which is good news . IV Vitamin C is not a cure, but a support.

    Should you drink Hydrogen Peroxide?

    There is plenty of information online that you can find about drinking hydrogen peroxide for health. HOWEVER, .... it should be done ONLY under the care of a practitioner that is well versed in this type of therapy, because while your body does produce it naturally that doesn't mean you should read a book and start doing it yourself.

    Dr. Lodi has one warning about this that I think is worth noting...

    "Dr. Charles Farr found out hydrogen peroxide stimulates the whole oxidative system, which is the way you kill off foreign invasions including abnormal cells like cancer but you can't drink it. What Dr. Farr found is that if you drink it, and if it runs into iron in the GI tract from blood that has broken down, then it goes through what's called the Fenton reaction and it winds up producing peroxide. So he found in some experiments that it can actually produce gastrointestinal tumors. So ingesting it orally, even though a lot of the popular books are recommending that, there's a risk of it running into iron or some other element that is in the 3 plus state and has to go into a 2 plus state, which is iron and copper. So anyway, in that process is called the Fenton reaction - a well known biochemical reaction.

    "But we do it at 0.03% pharmaceutical dose, you get pharmaceutically prepared hydrogen peroxide and we can use that in a drip form. So hydrogen peroxide is very, very important and vital to life in many, many different ways. The only two things you have to be aware of is you do not ingest it orally and number two, there's a specific way you have to give it at a certain concentration and at a certain rate in the vein because it's the endothelial cells, which is the cells that are lining blood vessels that have the least amount of catalase; and so if you get too high of a concentration, it will overcome the catalase ability to convert it in the vein and inside of the vein and cause scarring and you will wind up with kind of ropy veins that never return to normal - they're sclerotic."

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    Peer Reviewed Publication Supporting Intravenous Vitamin C for Cancer Patients

    Collaboration between Conventional Oncologists and Alternative Medical Practitioners Results in New Direction for Old Methodology

    WICHITA, Kan., March 25, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The Riordan Clinic announced today publication in the Journal of Translational Medicine results of a collaboration between oncologists, alternative medicine practitioners, and basic researchers, which proposes a new use of intravenous vitamin C for treatment of cancer.  

    The paper, available freely online at http://www.translational-medicine.com/content/pdf/1479-5876-9-25.pdf, describes the possibility of using intravenous vitamin C to treat inflammation associated with cancer.  The rationale is provided that intravenous, but not oral, vitamin C may be capable of addressing issues in cancer patients such as wasting (cachexia), immune suppression, and improving quality of life. Citing 246 references, the paper synthesized existing knowledge regarding the use of intravenous vitamin C for numerous medical conditions and seeks re-evaluation of the place of intravenous vitamin C in the context of conventional oncology practice.

    "Currently there is a great divide in the way intravenous vitamin C is viewed," said Thomas Ichim, Board Member of the Riordan Clinic and first author of the publication. "On the one hand, you have alternative medicine practitioners, who have been claiming very interesting results in practical treatment of cancer patients, but cannot explain any molecular rationale for its use or potential effects.  On the other hand you have a great amount of scientific literature supporting possible relevance of this approach in cancer.  This paper is a significant step towards closing the divide."

    In the past, the use of vitamin C in the treatment of cancer has been considered controversial since some studies have claimed excellent results in extending lifespan of cancer patients, whereas other studies have not seen any effects.  The discrepancy seems to be explained by studies seeing positive effects utilizing intravenous vitamin C, whereas the failed studies used oral vitamin C.  Scientists at the Riordan Clinic were the first to publish, and patent, that intravenous, but not oral vitamin C, can achieve significant concentration in the blood in order to selectively kill tumor cells....READ MORE

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/peer-reviewed-publication-supporting-intravenous-vitamin-c-for-cancer-patients-118646729.html

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited November 2011

    Interesting, but wine also makes me feel pretty wretched the next day, even if I only have a small amount.  I just don't tolerate alcohol or process it very well, I guess.

     As for inflammation, I was able to bring my inflammation levels down significantly through exercise and diet. I started at about a level 5 on my CRP, but am now around 1. I attribute it to my diet, exercise, and supplementation regime.  I take a lot of turmeric, and I pop an aspirin every now and then when I am achy from a workout. When it gets really, really bad I might take an Advil, but I prefer not to take that. I was really happy to see my levels were so low.

    Thanks for the posts on Vitamin C. Very interesting stuff. I know the oral route is not what helps in the instance of cancer, but as I've headed down this healing path, I have noticed what good Vitamin C in general does for me. I take about 1500 IU daily, and it helps skin and tendons. I honestly wonder sometimes if part of our population doesn't have a slight version of scurvy due to poor eating habits. It would certainly be easy to get that way, since most processed foods are so nutrient deficient. 

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited November 2011

    P.S. Can't imagine drinking Hydrogen Peroxide, but I have read that if you are coming down with fever, you can get in a bathtub with HP and it will actually help bring temperature down. Interesting stuff.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    I read that adding hydrogen peroxide to bathwater increases oxygen available to the body too.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    DR. GETOFF (KEVIN GIANNI'S NOTES)

    It's not a broken record if it's good advice.

    Dr. Getoff started his presentation talking about how the body can combat cancer. Here's what he said..."I think the most important way to help a body combat cancer is to reduce its toxic load, so we stop consuming the foods that I believe led towards the cancer. We replace them with foods, which support the health of the body. We add in all the supplemental vitamins, minerals and enzymes herbs etc." Dr. Getoff says this telling quote in the middle of his talk that I wanted to highlight..."I have never not been able to extend somebody's life."

    [PDF]   Getting Well With Getoff www.naturopath4you.com/./CHEKReport16thIssue2007Email.pdfSimilar

    How the studies really dupe you.

    You can't get wrapped up in cancer number statistics all the time. Here's why:

    "So, for example, you do a study and in the placebo group one in a thousand people get a benefit and the result in another group that's getting a drug: 2 in 1000 people get a benefit. The math says we're going from 1/10th of 1% which is 1 in 1,000 to 2 tenths of 1% which is 2 and 1,000 which is not statistically significant and a good statistician would throw it out the door.

    But instead,.... the cancer researchers say when you go from 1 in 1000 to 2 in 1000, that's a 100% increase in survival rate and they publish it that way. And to me, that's a fraudulent research study because you're telling the public, what we get out of the news that comes up on NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, new cancer study was done and this particular drug increase survival time by 100% without anybody even knowing the difference between standard risks, relative risks and realizing that that doesn't mean a thing."

    What's also valuable to note is that any increase in percentage of survival and quality of life is significant - statistically or not. Ask the family and friends of that 2nd person in the above study that survived. I'm sure they'll tell you there's some significance.                                                                   

    He said  "What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, It's what we know for sure, that just ain't so."    Mark Twain

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    Dr Getoff mentioned ‘Death By Medicine' in his talk.  This documentary  explores the dominant medical paradigm, the current health crisis, and a healthier, more holistic system. Based on Gary Null's  book, the film looks at the pharmaceutical industry, drug reps, medical schools, medical journals and the absence of real medical science.

    Gary Null  is an award-winning journalist, author and strong proponent of alternative medicine and natural healing. 'Death By Medicine' has taken the award for 'Best Independent Documentary' at the Best of Fest Festival. (I haven't seen this film, yet.)  

    Death by Medicine Trailer - YouTube

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited November 2011

    I have all his books on Natural Healing...I haven't seen this movie either but am going to enter it into my list on netflix.  Thanks for the heads up.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    I think we are a nation of people just addicted to, and obsessed with taking, prescription drugs . I read that the average person takes around 7 prescription drugs. Needless to say, that's way too much.

    This is a delicate issue in my family. Some would just rather pop endless pills than make much needed lifestyle changes that would reduce their need to take most of them.

    Where does this backwards belief system come from? I'm not sure. But, I don't waste time trying to help these people. They say they want to get better, but almost do everything to make sure that that doesn't happen, putting all their faith in their doctors and prescriptions.  When I heard Mike Adam's lecture I finally understood why.   

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    MIKE ADAMS (KEVIN GIANNI'S NOTES)

    Consumer health advocate, Mike didn't waste any time getting into what he thinks is a problem with the cancer industry.

    When I asked Mike to talk about some of the sketchy side of the natural cancer industry to give an equal voice, he responded with this very strong and important statement...

    "What is going on in the cancer industry today is a medical holocaust. We cannot allow ourselves to say each side needs to have their equal voice... No! We need to give people ways to treat cancer that don't kill them period because to continue down this road of chemotherapy is a crime against humanity. I mean I have seen people, many people, close friends, even a close personal friend of mine who is a physician, a doctor, strongly believed in conventional medicine, and didn't believe in herbs and medicinal mushrooms and anything. He said that was all voodoo. He said that was quackery. Well, he's dead. He died I think what two months ago, three months ago.

    He died from taking thalidomide, which is a chemotherapeutic agent that used now and as he was dying, during this cancer treatment process, at every stage he said to me ‘Mike I'm using the best method available today. These doctors have assured me it's going to turnaround. This is my best chance. It's going to get better if I can just survive the chemotherapeutic side effects.'"

    To me, there's no question that Mike is on to something. Throughout the entire program, we heard doctors explaining that people could not only heal using these natural and integrative approaches, but their quality of life could also improve.

     An important cancer prevention nutrient.

    Mike talks very specifically about taking vitamin D as a cancer prevention tool.Vitamin D has been shown to lower the risk of some cancers so I'd say it's pretty important to get your blood levels tested to see if you're deficient. All you have to do to get this done is ask your doctor for a 25-hydroxy-vitamin D test. It should cost about $50-60 (covered by insurance) and you're good to go. There is some discussion around what your levels should be, but most natural doctors are now saying between 50-80 ng/mL.

    One thing to consider is that in my experience, I've talked to many people who spend massive amounts of time in the sun and live in tropical areas and their vitamin D levels were still low. So if you're outside often and think your levels are fine, you may want to consider getting tested so you'll know for sure!

    How do you introduce natural and alternative healing methods to family members?

    "You know you can't. Look I know that's not what you want to hear but in my conclusion you can't. Family are the last people you can help for some reason and this has been my experience and I've heard this from many others who have the exact same experience. I'm talking about even people who are holistic practitioners. Their own family members won't even listen to them. You can't help family members who are invested psychologically in the culture of death and the culture of fear, which is conventional cancer treatment.

    "You got to understand that a conventional oncologist uses the weapon of fear. That is their recruitment weapon and fear is very, very effective and it takes the form like this. They run a blood test, you take a biopsy, they come back, they give a stern look, and they say you're going to die in six months if you don't start chemotherapy immediately, like tomorrow, all right.

    "Now first of all, this kind of statement happens probably thousands of times across the country every single day. This statement I think is a crime. I mean this should be outlawed. This is the worst form of invoking a negative destructive placebo effect that you can possibly imagine. Doctors have authority in the minds of patients. They've also taken an oath, which is supposed to say first do no harm. Doctors do not yet fully realize that what a patient believes he or she will make real, right. We've seen this with the placebo effect. It's very, very powerful in curing disease, in reversing disease, even in controlling blood pressure and things like that. I mean real physiological effects. It's been proven that the placebo effect alters the physiology of the spinal cord for example.

    "When a doctor comes to a patient and says you're going to die in six-months the patient makes it real. So that doctor is essentially giving that patient a death sentence."  The power of suggestion is very, very powerful.

    How many more pink pens do we need?

    Mike speaks out against some of the  cancer fundraising groups in his lecture. Many of these organizations gather highly motivated and passionate people to help the cause, but in the end, no progress is really being made. After listening to a program like this, you would wonder why they're not putting money toward finding out how effective these natural and integrative techniques are.

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited November 2011

    princess123:  Regarding the prescription pills routine, I was hospitalized a while back for heart palpitations, and a doctor who didn't even know me tried to put me on a sleeping pill and an anti anxiety pill.  He said after reviewing my case he thought I was clinically depressed.  I said I didn't feel depressed and he said "well, you don't know you're depressed"...WTH??  To make a long story short, we researched the drugs and saw the SE;s and I refused to take them!  Boy, was he irritated when he was challenged!  My actual problem was PVC's caused from a slow heartbeat.  Anyway I was given a mild beta blocker and I'm just fine.  I wonder how many people get hooked on prescription drugs because they follow a doctor's advice without question.  His answer to my question about how long I would have to take the drugs was..."forever".  Of course, because they are highly addictive!  It was then that I began to have a problem trusting doctors.

  • bexybexy
    bexybexy Member Posts: 151
    edited November 2011

    Hi there everyone

    I have been diagnosed with DCIS and am looking to make some changes to my diet (whether or not this has caused it has given me a lot of stress and not sure how necessary that has been).

    I don't smoke and rarely drink. I am vegan however in the last couple of years I have eaten too much processed soy. Also soya protein isolate which I have heard some quite bad things about has featured too heavily in my diet. I eat now only pure soya like tofu, soya milk, soya beans but don't overdo it. I am trying to head towards more raw fruit and veggies, nuts etc and a friend told me about sprouting seeds. I know I shouldn't beat myself up over the soya and think to myself wouldn't it be worse if I ate tons of barbecued ribs, smoked 20 a day and drank heavily. I think what with the diagnosis etc I just want to be safe not sorry.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    Kaara, anti-depressants are the most prescribed drug in America. More women than men take them. The stats are alarming.  Apparently, we are more likely than men to be labeled "depressed" when we complain about our symptoms.

    My girlfriend felt that her heart was beating too fast. She blacked out twice at work and was rushed to the hospital.  The doctor who treated her decided (after 10 minutes ) that she was just stressed and put her on anti-depressants.  

    My girlfriend is a pretty chill person.  She didn't take the pills because she knew the problem was not mental, but physical.   She found another doctor and discovered that she had problems with her thyroid-hypothyroidism.   

    Bexy Bexy, welcome.  I can relate to you and so can many others here.  I over indulged in too much processed soy too.  You can't blame yourself because you thought were doing something good for your body at the time.

    None of us know for sure what caused our cancers. Was it an over exposure to too many toxins, vitamin deficiencies etc. ?  However, cancer can't live in an oxygen rich and alkaline environment. That tells us that there is plenty we can do to make our bodies an inhabitable place for it to live in.

    I encourage you take your time and read the info on the previous pages of this thread. You'll find lots of good info about things like soy, vitamin d etc.  Also, feel free at any time to share info and advice and ask questions. The women here are super nice and knowledgeable.  

    Hugs,

    Sharon

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2013


    Antidepressants and natural alternatives


    by Marcelle Pick, OB/GYN NP


    ....antidepressant prescriptions have more than quadrupled in the past couple of decades, with twice as many women as men - by some estimates over 1 in 10 women in America - now taking one. Advertisements for Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Wellbutrin, Celexa, Cymbalta, Effexor, and others bombard us everywhere we turn - there's even a designer antidepressant for menopause symptoms called Pristiq, and another one for PMS symptoms called Serafem. But advertising doesn't portray the full picture about these prescription drugs, just images of happy people relaxing in the sun.... Aside from their short-term side effects, antidepressants can alter the biochemistry of the brain, and can be very difficult to discontinue. ...


    READ MOREAntidepressants and alternative treatments for ... - Women to Women




    http://www.womenshealthnetwork.com/emotionsanxietyandmood/antidepressants.aspx




    ETA: THE LINK DOES NOT WORK SO GOOGLE THE TITLE


    Edited by Mods to fix and update links


  • bexybexy
    bexybexy Member Posts: 151
    edited November 2011

    Hey that's amazing what you say about alkaline because I have recently read a book about alkaline diets and I totally subscribe to that view. I am definately making more of an effort and am at the moment taking 12 chlorella pills a day! The way I see is freshwater algae won't do me any harm and it may do me good! These medical professionals that dismiss this kind of thing as mumbo jumbo seem to want us all to be on pills all the time!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    bexybexy, I am convinced that 12 years of medical school deconstructs their common sense to get them to a place where they can actually poison and radiate people and then turn around and call nutrition quackery. (lol)

    It's good that you are reading and researching. We have to be proactive. You may want to consider getting a naturopatic oncologist to help you along your health journey too. Wink

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited November 2011

    Agree on the doctors and common sense. I asked my oncologist for a referral to a nutritionist, and she looked me up and down, then told me that my BMI looked fine...... ummmmm, okay.

    That was AFTER I told her that I thought I had IBS, because I had basically had diarrhea every day for about 4 years. Nutritionally deficient, you might suspect? Perhaps if you REALLY contemplated it, you'd come to that conclusion, but some docs just don't listen, or simply don't think beyond their small realm of expertise.

    Everything I did nutritionally was without the help of my docs. I sourced a nutritionist, started reading up on genetics, supplements, cancer, studies, abstracts, you name it. I have a good grip on statistics and some good critical reasoning skills, so I can usually figure out what the "aim" is of studies, if they are influenced by an entity or organization's point of view and fiscal interests.  It's up to the patients to truly arm themselves when it comes to cancer, because the docs will only help us along this path, they won't forge any new ones......... 

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited November 2011

    Marianna, hey, I had diarrhea everyday for years, I thought it was normal for me until I was checked for H Pylori. It turned out I was positive for this bacteria. The bad thing about it I had to be on two very strong antibiotics for two weeks. After the antibiotics, I rarely have diarrhea. For years, my body was being robbed of good nutrition. Thank God, I didn't get stomach cancer.

    Before being checked for H Pylori the doctors contributed my problems to IBS (irrital Bowel Syndrome). If our gut isn't healthy, we can't expect to get well, or be healthy.

    Anti-depressants is given out way too much. It is the magic pill for whatever you have. Those who are dx with fibermiologia..(screwed up the spelling there :) are given nothing more than anti-depressants, just by a different name. Anti-depressants are a nerve pill. The side effects, sucide, and other problems that are far worse than the disease treating.

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited November 2011

    Eveberry,

    Have you ever wondered if there is a correlation to your BC and the "IBS" (which in my book is a term for "It's B.S.")? I've often wondered this, and have felt like the worse off I got nutritionally, the more problems my body encountered-- neuropathy, extreme fatigue, susceptibility to stomach virus, etc.

    I got tested for H Pylori, but in my case it was a gluten intolerance.... and possibly dairy intolerance. Now that I don't consume those products, things are all good in the intestine! 

  • FireKracker
    FireKracker Member Posts: 8,046
    edited November 2011

    I had H Pylori and was told I was cured.yeah right..not so.... changed drs...then i was told yrs later that i had a rare colitus that was treated with a chemo for inflamation which now im in remission(over 10 yrs).I had ulcers after the HPylori was supposed to be gone....I also have acid reflux....is there a connection?????do i have many things to eat????NO...I quit dairy after rads and migraines disappeared.....my nurse sister told me to donate my body to science...im wondering if they will take it after doin rads....Im so ready to say the hell with the damn food.I try to eat what is right but i dont tolerate whats right...all i know is cancer loves sugar and fat.....soo thats what i watch the most.

    This whole thing is a crap shoot anyway....good luck everyone.hugggggs K

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    When Docs Get Annoyed At Empowered Patients

    Dr. Rankin on CNN article regarding doctors annoyed with patients                                    Published on July 19, 2011 by Lissa Rankin, M.D. in Owning Pink

    "...Doctors, who get annoyed by patients who ask questions, second guess them, read stuff on the internet, and make their own decisions based on their own gut instinct, need to get off their high horses and get over themselves..."

    READ MORE: When Docs Get Annoyed At Empowered Patients | Psychology Today

  • painterly
    painterly Member Posts: 602
    edited November 2011

    Good article princess.

    My rad doctor forbids comparing notes with other women and definitely would not approve of bco.

    To me, she is like someone wearing boxing gloves and ready to fight the patient. She denied all my se's from radiation and yet I discovered other women had the same se's. I told her that I met other women with the same se's and she replied "don't talk to other women - they know nothing." LOL

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 3,647
    edited November 2011

    painterly:  I would find a new oncologist!  I would not allow someone to disrespect me in that manner, I don't care who they are.

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited November 2011

    My radiation oncologist was really adamant about being "right" and didn't take my questioning very well. He bristled when I suggested that radiation felt like "overkill" in my case (2mm DCIS, thank you very much), and told me that I was selfish to think like that!!  In the meantime, I am now grappling with weird growths popping up on my breast (think: odd moles) that are most likely from the rads! Ugghhhh!!

    Going to dermo tomorrow about a new, little black mole that just popped up on my nipple. That's gonna feel really good getting it biopsied tomorrow. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    Cancer doctors lack empathy for patients

    Thursday, November 03, 2011 by: S. L. Baker, features writer

    (NaturalNews) Treating cancer patients, who are suffering excruciating side effects from radiation and chemotherapy, is emotionally draining. But wouldn't you think someone who chose the profession of oncology would know this in advance and would have a lot of compassion for his or her patients? It turns out, that's not exactly true for many oncologists.

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034041_oncologists_empathy.html#ixzz1d3ilDcP0

    Doctors repress their responses to their patients' pain

    "A new study shows that experienced doctors learn to control the part of their brain that allows them to empathise with a patient's pain, and switch on another area that allows them to control their emotions...That may sound cold, but it's essential for operating a successful practice."

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    Marianna, that sucks!  Have you done a topic search to see if others here have noticed weird growths after rads? ETA: How were you being selfish?

    painterly, welcome. Your onc sounds mentally abusive. How dare she advise you not to talk with other BC sisters, experiencing similar SEs. That's really f*cked up!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2011

    MARCUS  FREUDENMANN -KEVIN GIANNI'S NOTES

    Stress Kills

    You know it, I know it, but how much energy do we put into eliminating it. Most of us think it's just a necessary part of life. But the reality is that if you harbor painful emotions based on past trauma or are constantly on the go, you run a higher risk of getting sick.

    Here's what Marcus said "Stress is certainly a very important part and I've been working very, very long with - just the day before yesterday I had patients in the clinic at the Oasis of Hope and I was working through with them to resolve emotional problems. When you talk to a cancer patient, you can almost to 80%, 90% say they had emotional trauma, an abusive relationships, a domineering mother or father, like abuse in the family. A loss of a partner, a loss of a child, something which was quite traumatic and as long as that is in their mind and we know the mind has a tendency to repeat things over and over and over again and doesn't stop and everything brings up a memory and starts that wheel again so that the thoughts go round and round."

      

    Traumatic stress symptoms and breast cancer: the role of childhood abuse.

    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20400179

    Sexual Abuse May Affect Health For A Lifetime

    ..Stein and Barrett-Connor did not find the associations between sexual abuse and obesity or headaches observed in other studies.  Their finding of an association between breast cancer and early sexual abuse was somewhat unexpected...

    Sexual Abuse May Affect Health For A Lifetime

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  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 777
    edited November 2011

    Princess, last time this occurred, around 6 months ago, I did post out to ask if this happens, and a few folks had the same reaction. You have got to imagine that it's basically poisoned my system, my skin, and I am certain I'll be dealing with this for the rest of my life. My rads oncologist told me that I was "lucky" to be in my shoes because most women would like to have such a diagnosis in the BC world. The entire oncology team told me that I really, really, really needed rads in order to ensure that I didn't get a recurrance. This, after a 2mm DCIS. Not 2 cm, 2mm. Talk about killing a gnat with a bazooka.

  • painterly
    painterly Member Posts: 602
    edited November 2011

    Marianne, your diagnosis is the same as that of a gal I met while waiting to see the rad doctor.

    She was told by her BS that radiation was actually up to her but when she saw our "boxing gloves" doctor, she was told that "most women want the best for themselves" (I was in the next room waiting to be seen and heard the conversation), which was like saying "she wasn't doing the best" for herself. So poor girl felt she had no choice in the matter after all.

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