February 2011 chemo pals
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Congrats GG...I was so happy to finish rads too, 3 weeks later it is finally starting to heal...I was pretty bad...another week, I think I will be able to wear my new bras and boobs!
K...yes, complete hysterectomy...I didn't ask, but was under the assumption that my chemo didn't cover that area...at least I am thinking pos. that this is why it should not be mets BC...ovarian caught early would be the lesser of the two evils...
I am holding on to that glimmer for endrometriosis too...this has been such a long road...I don't think i've complained TOO much through the whole thing, but it's kind of hard not to say "why me" now...I think i'm going to cancel the surgery Thur. and wait to see what Roswell says on Wed...I just wish they could get me in faster!
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jenn- I don't think I would be able to hold off the "why me" question if I was in your shoes right now - I am a combination of worried for you and hopeful for you. I keep coming back to it being both sides - which is more unusual, and having had chemo so recently, that it must be endometriosis. Follow your gut on the surgery and keep us posted.
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Jenn - my heart is breaking for you just having to deal with the emotional side of this unknown again! Major prayers coming your way!
Charlottesmama - I had my port out on Wed last week (10/26) - feels great! (Ok, actuallly it feels like I was stabbed in the shoulder), but still feels great!

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Jenn- I'll be praying for you!
I still have my port. I go to the surgeon on the 14th..hopefully I can get it out soon! I was done with rads 3 months ago and was told to wait for it to come out. I don't want to wait any more.
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So happy for all who have been able to de-port. Won't be happening for me for a while - still getting Herceptin until Feb., but for triple pos they recommend the port stay in. Mine is so small you can't see it, so I will leave it and have it flushed every couple of months.
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Jen, I just logged on and saw your posts - oh no - I am so sorry to hear the news that you have something major to worry about at this time. Will it take a while to get the results after your hysterectomy? I assume the biopsy results might not be immediate, and the waiting is sometimes the hardest part! But you're moving quickly to deal with this and sounds like you have some very qualified surgeons to choose from. Please keep us posted.
Laura
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Saw a second surgeon (gyn/onc) today. He scheduled me for complete hysterectomy next Thur...thing that kind of stinks is I will be spending my b-day in the hospital, so I have officially decided to move it away one month!
He seemed a little more positive about the situation then the first guy I saw, there is a chance it could be cysts. Won't know until the surgery and apparently they can test it all right then so i'll know more at that time. Why is it always such a waiting game...ugh!
Thanks for all the well wishes, as usual I can't say what it means to me to have this life line made up of you all here!
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jenn - certainly thinking of you every day and glad that this second doc is more hopeful. Is this the one that is more local to where you live? I think we should all celebrate our b-days every month anyway!!!
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Jenn - so glad to see this update. Still saying prayer on your behalf.
So about ports. I never had a port. Why do oncs recommend that triple positives keep their ports? (I'm not sure I even want to know the answer...) -
pejkug - once the port has been removed it can't be placed in the same location. If you check the stats on recurrence for triple positives, if it is going to happen it usually does in the first several years, so some oncs advise just keeping the port and having it flushed.
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JENN, glad you decided to wait and visit the second doc, the comfort factor is important with these things, to be sure. Diff opinions and reasons I gave and we gave, they help people to arrive at a more solid conclusion, so while I differed and feel bad over it, am most definitely good with your choice. And really, an op set up for next week is fast, but gee, your BD!?! SIGH.
PEJKUG, since I got to you first, I will tell you what a port is. When ships come from China... NO NO, just fooling around. I have a port. It is a little device, round and size of end of fingertip, that they surigcally put just under your skin in the chest area somewhere, it hooks into a certain type of blood vessel, so that chemotherapy can be put in the body without having to get a needle taped to the arm every single time. It provides a straight shot to the blood, no endless finding a blood vessel, no chems leaking and burning skin. You can walk around with it and nobody knows you have it. It's practically unseen since it's under the skin, but there is a bump there. There ARE other types of ports that open up to the outside, but mine doesn't.
Since it's part of the body, when it comes out, it's also done surgically. But that one is done in a regular doc office. Putting it IN is a full-out anesthesia in-the-hospital thing, a real pain in the neck, which is why they would rather not take it out until they are reasonably certain you won't need chemo or any other fluid type stuff anymore.
So, how do they access the port, since it is under the skin? A NEEDLE. Dang. Still have to put up with that "stick" that hurts a tad, but it's just ONE go, they push it into the bulge, I guess it's a holding "tank" (ha), and from there it goes thru inter- or intra-vessel tubes, I think one up and one down, slides into the blood vessel somehow, I think, and for all I know it's glued in there, altho I imagine they stitched it. I don't know what it actually looks like in real life. But I'll bet somebody else here knows.
Well, that's my VERY layperson's description. I want mine out, all treatments done, cancer doc will hopefully do it if I can just plain remember to ask him when I see him in a couple weeks! See, mine is starting to hurt just a little, maybe it's my imagination. I just want all cancer references off my table.
FOLKS, I talk to my rads sisters, but I am done of that and all treatments, and I'm in the midst of my two-week "vacation," so glad I thought to set that up, for I am quite tired-feeling, NOT the flu feeling with chemo, but like a cold. Day after day, I wake up happy, but tired. Places where skin peeled are the sore spots, I put my doc's lotion. They said I would be tired the week after boosts, which is where I'm at. Always, GG
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Gail, you cracked me up. "When ships come from China..." When I had mine out last week, my doc asked me if I wanted to keep it. Nope. I didn't even want to see it.
Jenn, I had a complete hysterectomy 2 months ago. It was done laproscopically, but my doc told me before I went under that he didn't know what he might find, and if there was cancer, he'd have to cut me open. I was freaked out because of the uncertainty, but what can you do? I told him to do what was necessary. When I woke up 5 hours later, I found out there was no cancer and he was able to do it laproscopically, huge fibroids and all. if you want to PM me, I'll tell you a little more in detail. -
Special K, both places are in Buffalo, but Roswell is my normal place and its a big cancer center.
I didn't have a port, I had a piccline since I had bilateral BC, was so happy when that was removed!!
Rads...ugh! I got burnt pretty bad. I am at about 3+ weeks post and last night was the first night my last sore was no longer open...yay! Rads were rough for me!
charlotte'smama, I'm glad your's turned out to be cancer free and I am hoping the same goes for me! He gave me the option of trying lapro. first, but recommended the whole she bang especially due to my case and when they tested my lymph nodes on the other side during mastect. that was a false negative and I had to go back a few weeks later! Take it ALL out, I'm good with that!!
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Hello Chemo Sisters,
For those in the hair-watch group, I am proud to announce today that my hair is now officially... ONE INCH LONG! When I wear my nightcap, I can pull it back just enough at the top to show some tiny bang-type hairs, blondish-gray! Really doesn't help my appearance at all, I still look like a cancer patient. Oh, those dark circles under my eyes, still a roundy face from weighing 30-some pounds too much, my eyes are bloodshot and tiny pupils from medicines. I would put a picture, but never could even get a real picture of me on here, wouldn't show my "now" without a "before." Otherwise you all would think I was a street people.
Ummmm, just a simple update, cannot recall my last one. After chemo from mid-Feb to begin of July, had modified mastectomy begin of August, then rads went from mid-Sept to end of October. So, now I'm a week out from end of rads, skin feels much better, looks better than it was, but not better than real life. See, good grief, that scar situation, along with peeled, red, brown skin, it's a shocking sight, to be sure, to the untrained eye. That is the visible part of breast cancer, sort of gives me a jolt when I put on my special lotion.
I pine over the loss of my hair, tho, too. I just cannot get over how much it affects my beauty. I am not beautiful. But since I am 60 years old, overweight, and sort of gave up on looks maybe five years ago, I have not been beautiful for many years. Soooooo, recently I got into the idea of dressing better. I saw a couple TJ Maxx clothing store commercials on TV (anybody else see those?), and I was SO impressed with the latest styles being incorporated into my sort of casual hippie attire.
Does everyone still wear what they wore when they were in their 20s? Well, I want to update my style just a little, I want to wear at least one garment that fits, and I love these longish scarves, plus bright color tops peeping thru. So, when I get some extra cash and some extra strength, I will go to TJ Maxx and buy a few items, to cheer up my wardrobe.
So, while I am not beautiful now, I DO know I actually want to go shopping again. This is the basic female instinct, and I had lost it, long before cancer, and after cancer gave me the gift of SEEING how wonderful life really is, thus I have become much more keen on retired interests, which also includes music, art, gardening. Besides, when I go out to eat with my folks mid-November, I am going to make an effort, I have ONE new outfit I bought last spring when brother's family was going to visit, and I'll put on makeup (maybe even coverup for my dark circles), and MY WIG. Yes, I shall wear my pretend hair and no longer use the cancer card to convince everyone that I really CANNOT do regular stuff "so don't expect me to drop by anytime soon" thing. But I don't think I can blend one-inch hair into the wig, to make it more natural.
Sorry for the ramble. But you know I DO ramble. Well, happy November, sisters, and see ya! GG
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GG: WHOOT WHOOT!!! And...I'm in the hair watchgroup!
JENN: hugs and love sent your way!
MAMA: I wanted to say something...but damn if I can remember right now...
MELANIE: be very careful. There is so much going on in there. Apparently,we have to be careful long-term. Did you have boosts? My hair is still very thin and fine...but...I have fun with it: )
SpecialK: ya still amaze me with your selflessness and your guidance to us all.
Charlotte's Mama: I'd like to give up my port for new yeas...
So...I'm going to see my Medical and Radiation ONC's, at the same time, on fFriday. I'm nervous. Honesty might not be terribly pleasant. And, the truth just doesn't want to come out...
Does anyone kinda know what I mean? Ugh. Too many weeks of. ..just some really weird shit in my head I guess... -
fuzzy - Hi! I know what you mean about how the head is working these days - the leaving active treatment part, and looking to the future... I do know what you mean. And, thanks for the compliment!
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Ok...so, if someone were to say, "I'm not concerned about eating...I have no energy or ambition...I've developed a chip toward people...I'm all messed up. Or, normal? Its just very, very unsettling...
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fuzzy - I think one of the hardest things about a BC diagnosis is how it changes how others see us and how we see ourselves. I think it messes with our heads - makes us deal with others, even those who love us, differently. My bullshit tolerance meter is significantly altered - I just don't have time for it, and I think that my patience is much shorter. I have a lot of interests but I find it harder to listen to others if what they are talking about bores me! I think when we become fearful about the future it shapes our responses in the present. You are right - it is unsettling - everything about the last year or so has been VERY unsettling. I know in the abstract we all live our lives not really thinking about our own mortality, until you get a wake-up call like BC. Because our futures are now somewhat uncertain how do we grasp on to what we want, or care about? How do we move forward from this point? I am not sure what the answer is to how to handle these changes other than to spend some time in the exact moment that we are in, since that is all we really ever have. Recognize that the feelings you have right now are a cumulative result of the assualt of treatment, and there is no way for you to be yourself at this point in time. We can hope that time will heal us and in the meantime we need to treat ourselves gently and without too much expectation.
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Wow....spot on. Thank you. I have more balanced things to think about now.
Weird, but I instantly went from mild panic to...quite sleepy....thanks again... -
Oh fuzzy - so glad I said what I did then!
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FUZZY, my partner in crime! Glad you is functioning, but I too understand that feeling of bewilderment, sadness, worry, exhaustion. It's like that nagging thing when you went to bed knowing your dog died or a favorite relative, and you wake up for a split second and forget, but then there it is again, holds us back awhile from the true joy that is life.
SPECIAL K, you know, your words are so comforting to me, clarifying. My dear, I had thought I put it all behind me, I thought I had figured out how to set all things scary aside. But part of why I came on here yesterday was because of that nagging feeling that something isn't right. I had to be near husband most of the afternoon, some of the evening, fell asleep normal time okay, but woke up early this morning, very nervous. Fear of cancer. All I can do is think it's becuz I'm going thru a rough patch, it's a mind game to set cancer aside, and some days I'm just not up to it. I am finally in a position to let everything go, so I let down my defenses, and in came fear.
But K, I think the advice of "treat ourselves gently" is so true. I was reading a little paper on after-effects of radiation, that it could take as much as a month to regain strength, and so we are to rest. So, instead of feeling bad about falling apart, I'll chalk it up to being a worn-out person. And if I put this thing behind me once, I can do it again, only it'll have to wait until I can handle regular duties and face an unexpected bill and talk with some sense to others, before I can rethink my fears away. GG
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dogeyed - hello! I have been participating in a research study, referred by my surgeon. It is through the University of South Florida (my DD goes there) School of Nursing and Moffitt Cancer Center (NCI designated) and involves Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction. The study is aimed at women leaving active treatment and facing the uncertain future - just the point where we all are! What they do is take blood and saliva samples at the outset to measure cortisol (stress hormone) levels. They taught us gentle yoga, meditation, visualization, identification of emotional triggers, etc. This was done in a weekly 2 hour class for 6 weeks. We were supposed to do up to 45 minutes a day of both informal (like while you are doing the dishes) and formal (sitting quietly with eyes closed) meditative practice. Then we did the blood and saliva again. The next six week period, which I am in now, is done completely on our own, and then we will do blood and saliva again at 12 weeks. I have found that through this guided process I have a better ability to just experience things moment to moment. If I am feeling stressed I can do the formal meditation (I try to refrain from this in public! Ha!) and calm myself down. It is kind of like Lamaze breathing for labor. I think too much looking forward, as tempting as it is to look forward to the good things, is a little bit dangerous for us because of the possibility of bad things. Getting too twisted in what the future may bring does not allow us to maximize what we are doing right now. I think too, and I am quoting the instructor, we are human doers and not human beings. We may need to "do" less and "be" more. Take some time and breathe and relax and just "be" and as inner and outer strength returns we will be better equipped to handle whatever comes next.
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Wow, SPECIAL K, sharing your experience with meditation came at just the right time. I am going to practice the washing dishes sort of thing! Sometimes I do Soduku puzzles, used to paint, and just got another guitar, doing those has that effect. And the triggers, yes, I wound up waking up early again this morning, but probably becuz I fell asleep shortly after dinner. But I don't like the dark, a trigger apparently, for I am quite nervous right now.
I was watching a TV program the other day where Vets with PTSD went to a gathering, and some Native Americans did a ceremony where they were smoking a pipe and doing a little chanting, and boy did I tap ino that, really got very relaxed. I think you have something here, K, and I thank you for helping us out. GG
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dogeyed - I do think we all have PTSD to one degree or another having come through our treatments. Even though we have all been strong, and weathered this storm, it can't help but take a piece of us. Learning how to function in the aftermath takes a concerted effort. In the past I have been guilty of cramming too much into the day, and if I am sitting idle I am wasting time. I had a really clean house, fabulous meals on the table, lots of volunteer activities, drove my kids and all their friends to school, practice, the movies, etc.,the clothes were clean and folded but I was EXHAUSTED! I am still trying to be organized and efficient now but I do things with more intention, not just blindly going through the day trying to get everything done. There has to be room for quiet time and restorative contemplation, right? I still don't really sleep well, but I didn't before BC either. I just began reading again and I enjoy that - sometimes it makes me relaxed enough that I can fall asleep. I am glad that you think the meditating is a good idea - it isn't my idea, I just messengered it to you! According to the results in the study, it really does work. This is one of the first studies to quantify the results with the scientific measurement of stress hormones.
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Yes Fuzzy, know what you mean!! It's like you keep waiting for something just around the corner...and BOOM! It hits...my onc says this is the way life will be but it will get better (not sure I agree with that statement, but hey whatever)
Surgery is Thursday, not so nervous about the surgery or even really the results at this point, a calm has kind of come over me...I am actually more concerned b/c I have my stupid yearly allergu cough which can get pretty violent. I have found nothing that helps at this point and I am worried about the pain to that incision when I cough!

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jenn_h - when you come home and are laying or sitting, put a pillow over your abdomen and if you have to cough (or sneeze, or laugh really hard!) press the pillow against yourself. Both my kids were c-sections, this is what the nurses told me to do. It still hurts but the pillow helps a lot! Good luck - glad you are feeling peaceful, please know we are all sending you our best, and our love.
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SPECIAL K, you read my mind, girl. You describe how you used to do all this stuff, and getting back to reading, gosh, that one is me to a T. Gave up reading for a while, even before cancer, I have other health issues and life issues that brought me straight down. But lately I too have begun to read again, even if it's just the Sunday circulars. And the PTSD thing, I had forgotten about that, but it's so true. Just thinking about it has helped me.
JENN, there's a kind of prescription cought syrup that has opiate in it, it's designed specifically to quiet a cough. I had a few bouts of pneumonia and bronchitis in my 40s and got that syrup to stop all the coughing. I imagine if you tell everyone you are in contact with at the hospital, and more specifically your doc in charge of cancer and the one doing the surgery, and explain you cough a lot right now and you might need something to quiet it, they can have that syrup for you as part of your drug regime for when you get to your hospital room postop. If you can get a script for a bottle or take that bottle at the hospital home with you, too, it'll continue to hold back a lot of your coughs until your incision heals. There are cough syrups in the store with alcohol in it, it quiets coughs, but of course would have to pass muster with your surgeon.
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Hi everyone,
Just checking in with my favorite Feb chemo support group.
Special K - I love that line that you used- that we need to be human beings and just "be" once in a while, not human doers. So true. What an opportunity for you to get to participate in a stress reduction test. Most women have to pay for a session like that! I will take your advice to heart.
Jen- Hope your surgery goes smoothly. I had a laproscopic oophorectomy 3 years ago. There were three incisions and the surgeon used something called a DaVinci robot. The recovery required 4-6 weeks of very little activvity, but I do not remember being in pain at all. And then when your ovaries and everything else is removed, you didn't need to worry about those organs anymore.
Laura
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oh crap. I have a lot of catching up to do. Lots of posts to read!
Gail: I'm still a big black stompy boots grrrl like I was in my punky 20's. That's just who I wuz and who I iz. But I can clean up good and dress real nice when I want, and even look kinda elegant. As long as tall black boots are allowed.
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mamaoftwo - I actually got paid for the research study! I still have a few weeks to go of daily practice and diaries, but they gave us $80 at the first meeting, $80 at the 6 week point and I will get $80 more when I go in a couple of weeks for labs and to turn in the dairies and logs. They gave us Visa giftcards so I just put them with my holiday money to spend on gifts. It was very valuable to have the instruction and guidance and to be compensated on top of that is a bonus! They keep thanking us for helping them, but it has been such a two-way street. They are hoping for a total of 400 participants, and I believe that our group of 11 put them over the 300 mark so far.
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