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Ladies, here is the link to watch the trailer for "Forks Over Knives".
SAB said she watched the movie and was moved by it.
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Yes, it is persuasive, but wear your skeptics hat--there is a difference between correlation and causation that is not always noted in the film! I watched this with my husband over the same weekend that I read anti-cancer and the strength of all the information finally made us make the move to healthier living that we've been talking about for so long. I think we streamed it on Netflix. Would love to hear your reactions if you watch it. (Of course this might be basic info for you guys--it sounds as though you have been committed to this lifestyle far longer than we.)
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sweeetbean: We do our spagetti squash in the microwave for about five minutes less than most recipes want you to do. It seems initially that it would be too crisp, but it's not as watery. I do mine with a red sauce made from tomatoes, and throw in some turkey meatballs. Tastes great!
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Vickilif, here is a book by Ori Hofmekler (Nutrition & Fitness Expert) that you may want to check out. His mother had BC, and that inspired him to write the book.
The Anti-Estrogenic Diet & The Warrior Diet
"As a species, we're on a fast track to extinction," says Ori Hofmekler, author of The Anti-Estrogenic Diet. "In the past few decades, men have lost 50% of their sperm count and within only one generation, the average man's sperm count and testosterone have dropped by 20%. Women are no better. Staggering figures show that most women today are suffering from female disorders and three out of ten women between the ages of 35 to 60 will develop breast cancer."
In spite of the ever growing number of diets, health products, medications and drugs, in spite of the billions of dollars annually spent on health care, people are getting fatter and sicker than ever before with ever growing rates of sterility, obesity, diabetes and cancer among men, women and even children."If the human species were an animal, zoologists will render us as a species becoming to be extinct," says Hofmekler. Something is seriously wrong. Something needs to be done.
Here's an interview with him on Good Morning America
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXlYdIVJyEU
Sharon
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Here's another one. Has anyone read it?
What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Breast Cancer
How Hormone Balance Can Help Save Your Life
by John R. Lee, M.D., David Zava, Ph.D. and Virginia HopkinsTable of Contents
Introduction
PART ONE THE HISTORY, POLITICS AND NATURE OF BREAST CANCERChapter 1
THE HISTORY AND POLITICS OF THE BREAST CANCER INDUSTRY
Why we can't seem to prevent or cure breast cancer.Chapter 2
RISK FACTORS FOR BREAST CANCER
Why it All Points to EstrogenChapter 3
THE NATURE OF CANCER
Normal cells that refuse to grow up.Chapter 4
OTHER FACTORS THAT INCREASE BREAST CANCER RISK
Insulin resistance, birth control pills, early puberty, DHEA, prolactin, melatonin, thyroid.Chapter 5
THE NATURE OF BREAST CANCER
Nurturing gone awry.PART II
THE SEX HORMONES AND HOW THEY AFFECT BREAST CANCER
Chapter 6
THE NATURE OF ESTROGENS
Angels of Life, Angels of DeathChapter 7
HOW ESTROGEN TALKS TO YOUR CELLS
The Right Communication is Everything.Chapter 8
ESTRIOL, A SAFER REPLACEMENT ESTROGEN
Mother Nature's Designer EstrogenChapter 9
THE NATURE OF PROGESTERONE
The Great ProtectorChapter 10
THE NATURE OF THE ANDROGENS
The part that the "male" hormones plays in a woman's hormonal orchestra.Chapter 11
THE PROBLEM OF ERT AND HRT
How hormone replacement therapy causes cancer.Chapter 12
PART THREE
TAMOXIFEN AND RALOXIFENE
Why synthetic drugs create new problems.
PRACTICAL ADVICE FOR PREVENTING AND HEALING BREAST CANCERChapter 13
HOW AND WHEN TO USE PROGESTERONE
The guardian angel of breast cancer.Chapter 14
HOW AND WHEN TO USE OTHER HORMONES
Estrogen, DHEA, Pregnenolone, the Corticosteroids, Testosterone and AndrostenedioneChapter 15
TESTING AND SYMPTOMS
How to Determine Your Hormone BalanceChapter 16
THE LIGHT AND DARK SIDES OF SOY
How to eat soy so that it helps.Chapter 17
HOW NUTRITION AFFECTS YOUR BREAST CANCER RISK
Making good choices can make the difference.Chapter 18
PROTECTING THE PRESENT AND THE FUTURE
Creating an environment where cancer can't get started. -
I did read "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Breast Cancer", also, "Avoiding Breast Cancer". In addition I read "Knockout" and "Breakthrough" by Suzanne Somers. I found them to be very educational about the alternative natural methods of treatment, and the part that hormone balance plays in the overall role of prevention.
When I went to my bioidentical hormone doctor, I found that I was completely depleted of progestrone. I had never been given any after my hysterectomy so over twenty years it had gone to zero. Once I started taking it, even such a small amount, I felt more calm and was able to sleep through the night for the first time in years! The thought that I would have to give it up concerns me greatly.
Diet and nutrition are so important. I have a friend that has Mysthenia Gravis. She was becoming so weak that she could hardly function. She went on a vegan diet and started doing tai chi, yoga, and qigong, and now her disease is in complete remission! She takes no other medications other than supplements, and her specialist said there was nothing more he could do for her, that she had no signs of the disease left in her body. That was five years ago.
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I read "Knockout" last year. That was okay. I just found it a bit disorganized and redundant. I felt like I was reading a rough draft. "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Breast Cancer" looks way more structured.
I have know idea what "the warrior diet" is. I will have to look it up. When we get through talking about supplements and nutrition here and move on to exercise, I'll post tips on how to strenghten the immune system using peak fitness exercises. I believe Ori Hofmekler writes about that in his books.
Kaara do you do yoga? I know it helps to raise progesterone. Vitamin B6 and magnesium help too. How does your doctor feel about you using bioidentical hormones? Most MDs don't like naturopathic medicine horning in on their territory. Is he cool with them? Or does he dismiss them?
I have the same question for all of you. Are your oncologists supportive of you using supplements like bioidentical hormones, DIM, Calcium D Glucarate, I3C, etc instead of, or with, drugs like Als or Tamoxifen?
Sharon
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Sharon my MO is all about supplements, but he does not want hormones of any kind, natural or synthetic. I am also very low in testerone which he would have been OK with me taking except that I have a strong family history of cardiac disease so that is a no go there as well. I chose to take tamoxifen so I really do not know what his thought is on the alternatives, but have thought that when I am finished with my 5 years that I will go with one of the natual alternatives and continue on to try to protect myself. He is also very into yoga, accupucture and other things and always has an opinion if I ask him. I just saw him so if I think about it at my next visit I will see what his opinion is on the drug alternatives.
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I didn't really go into detail with my bc doctor about the bioidentical hormones I was taking...just let him know that I was taking them and was feeling better because of it. I got the feeling that he didn't differentiate between synthetic and bioidentical. "Estrogen is estrogen" he stated. I'm taking such a small amount .05%. I mentioned that I was low in vitamin D, and on a supplement, and he said "everyone is". He didn't tell me to go off of them, but then we are still exploring my diagnosis. He is going to tell me no later than the beginning of next week about whether he thinks I should have an MRI to confirm the area of suspicion on my mammogram that didn't show up on the US. More waiting.
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Sherry it's great that your MO is so supportive. I think it's really important to be able to be able to talk openly about supplements with them. I had a book on 'postive thinking', which I can not find at the moment. (I think I loaned it to someone.)
Anyways, the author explains how not having positive relationships with our MDs can have a serious negative effect on our immune system. It was very interesting. I'd share more if I had the book in front of me.
Kaara,try not to worry too much. It doesn't help. Have you been able to get your vitamin D levels up. I remember you said you are taking 5000IU?
Are you other ladies monitoring your vitamin D levels? I've been doing 4000IU per day. I'm thinking of switching from capsules to drops. I want to get my levels up from 60 to 80. They were 60 during the summer. Now that the days are getting shorter and winter is around the conrner, I'm a little concerned that I will need to take more.
Sharon
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VITAMIN D3: LET'S MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING ENOUGH!
Having a low level of vitamin D is quite common among women with breast cancer, and most patients, typically about 80%, are either deficient or have insufficient amounts. Women with low levels have an increased risk of recurrence and lower overall survival rates. So, I thought it was important to post my notes. Feel free to post information that I may have missed. Sorry for the long post. But this important.
- 1. Vitamin D comes in 2 major forms: vitamin D2 (ergocalciferol) and vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol). Do not use the synthetic and inferior vitamin D2. It's the form that is produced from plant and/or fungal sources and it's not biologically active. It is often used to fortify foods or used as a supplement. Vitamin D2 is about 1/2 as potent in the human body as vitamin D3.
- 2. When you do supplement with vitamin D, you'll only want to supplement with natural vitamin D3. It's a form that is naturally produced in the skin after sunlight exposure or vitamin D is taken in dietary foods. Vitamin D3 is the preferred form for supplementation because it is more effective in raising serum 25(OH) D levels.
- 3. The most common form for vitamin D3 delivery is gel caps containing D3 in liquid form (and often dispersed in flax oil or olive oil). D3 is also available in powdered form in D3 capsules, in powdered form involving pressed tablets, and in unencapsulated liquid form (D3 drops). In general, problems with absorption of powdered vitamins are seen from tablets versus capsules due to problems in digestive track breakdown of pressed tablets. Capsules and liquid drops are favored.
- 4. The body uses vitamin D3 for normal immune system function, to control cellular growth, and to absorb calcium from the digestive tract. Vitamin D3 can inhibit the growth of malignant melanoma, breast cancer,leukemia, and mammary tumors in laboratory animals. Vitamin D3 can also inhibit angiogenesis, the growth of new blood vessels that permit the spread of cancer cells through the body.
- 5. The body makes vitamin D when it's exposed to sunlight. In fact, 80 to 100 percent of the vitamin D we need comes from the sun. The sun exposure that makes our skin a bit red (called 1 minimum erythemal dose) produces the equivalent of 10,000 to 25,000 IU of vitamin D in our bodies.The problem is that most of us aren't exposed to enough sunlight.
- 6. Fatty fish such as salmon, tuna, herring, mackerel, cod liver oil and porcini mushrooms are very good sources of vitamin D.
- 7. The only way to determine the correct dose is to get your blood levels checked.The correct test to asked for is 25(OH)D.
- 8. The OPTIMAL value is 50-65 ng/ml and for those with diseases 70-85 ng/ml.
- 9. It has been suggested, as per Dr. John Cannell of the Vitamin D Council (7), that 1,000 IU per 25 pounds of body weight be taken. A person who weighs 150 pounds, for instance, would take 6,000 IU per day as a starting dose (150/25 = 6. 1,000IU x 6 = 6,000IU). Do this for at least eight weeks, and then test. Normally, it takes up to 6 to 10 months to "fill up the tank" for vitamin D if you're deficient.
- 10. Heavy coffee drinkers should be aware that caffeine can interfere with vitamin D receptors. To avoid this, try to limit your caffeine intake to no more than 300 mg per day or increase your calcium intake to help offset the effects that a reduced vitamin D uptake can have on your health status.
The Effects of Vitamin D on Breast Cancer Cells (very interesting!)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhV-2IhsQns
Vitamin D is nutritional key for prevention of breast cancer
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/027230_Vitamin_D_breast_cancer.html#ixzz1bHLqBwqR
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Other sources:
Vitamin D Deficiency Worsens Breast Cancer - www.webmd.com/breast-cancer/./vitamin-d-deficiency-worsens-br.
Low Vitamin D Levels Raise Breast Cancer Death Risk by 75 Percent http://www.naturalnews.com/024324_Vitamin_D_cancer_breast.html#ixzz1SQ6BNnH1
Low Circulating Vitamin D is Associated With More Aggressive Breast Cancer - www. foodforbreastcancer.com/./low-circulating-vitamin-d-is-associated-...
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VITAMIN D TEST
Your doctor can order the test OR you can order the Vitamin D test yourself from ZRT Lab.
http://www.zrtlab.com/vitamindcouncil/
WATCH HOW TO COLLECT A BLOOD SPOT TEST SAMPLE
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My vitamin D levels were low when I had them tested (30) which is why I was put on 5,000 IU daily by my private physician who monitors my bioidentical hormones. I am due to have my blood work done again in November, so it will be interesting to see if my levels have gone up substantially. I saw a video on Dr. Mercola's site yesterday that said the levels should be at a minimum 50/60, so I have a long way to go. My boyfriend takes 8,000 IU for his MS in hopes it will help slow the progression.
I don't understand why the conventional doctors don't push this. If I hadn't gone to a private physician who specializes in nutrition, and adequate supplementation, I would never have known that my levels were low. When I mentioned this to my bc specialist, he blew it off and said everyone has low levels. This industry needs a wake up call!
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So how does that translate to approximate time in the sun with bare skin?
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My Vitamin D level was 13 (!!!!) when they tested them in early March. I have been on 6,000 IU's for six months now and it is up to 47. I am going to increase to 10,000 to see if I can get it up to 60.
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SAB If you're fair skinned, going outside for 10 minutes on a sunny day around noon--with your legs and arms and face exposed and with no sunscreen-will give you enough radiation to produce about 10,000 IU. Those who have dark skin (i.e. Hispanics, African-Americans) need to remain in the sun 6 times as long.
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Sweetbean, 13
. OMG. But, you got your levels up quickly in only six months. You're lucky. For some people, it takes way longer. Are you using drops or capsules? I'm wondering if that makes a difference. Kaara, some MDs do recommend vitamin D. But, generally they tend not to recommend things that can potentially put them out of business. They specialize in symptom management, not prevention. If everyone started taking the right amount of vitamin D, from an early age, the hospitals beds would probably be half empty. Vitamin D helps to prevent almost all diseases-- MS,depression, breast cancer, arthritis, colon cancer, dementia, prostate cancer etc. It literally affects the function of every tissue in your body. The human genetic code is designed to automatically defend our bodies against invading microorganisms. That's as long as we have optimal vitamin D levels. So, let's work hard to get our levels up!
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MAGNESIUM MATABOLIZES VITAMIN D3
Vitamin D3 needs several other nutrients to work its "magic". But, I think it's important to mention that magnesium is definitely the most important vitamin D3 co-factor. If you do not have enough magnesium in your tissues, your body will not be able to properly use the vitamin D3 you take. So, again here are my notes.
SOURCES OF MAGNESIUM
- According to WHFoods, excellent sources of magnesium include Swiss chard and spinach. Avoid overcooking to minimize loss of magnesium. (You can save the water and make soup.)
- Very good sources of magnesium include mustard greens, summer squash, broccoli, blackstrap molasses, halibut, turnip greens, cucumber navy beans , black beans, green beans, celery, kale, Brazil nuts, black walnuts and a variety of sprouted organic seeds, including pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, sesame seeds and flax seeds.
- Phytic acid in seeds and nuts reacts with magnesium, and stops its absorption in your intestines. The process of soaking and sprouting neutralise the phytic acid that causes magnesium to be flushed out of the body. It also helps retain enzymes that help your body digest the nuts and seeds. See "How to Sprout Seeds and Nuts www.growyouthful.com/recipes/sprouts.php
- You can get more than enough magnesium from green leafy vegetables, nuts, seeds, and whole grains-but only if they're grown by an organic farmer who also uses a nutrient-rich fertilizer containing magnesium. No magnesium in the soil means = No magnesium in the plants.
- Magnesium is available in chelated (bound to) combinations such as alpha-ketogluconate, aspartate, glycinate, lysinate, orotate, taurate and others. Inorganic or ionic magnesiums include sulphate, oxide, citrate, carbonate, bicarbonate and chloride. Be careful. Some companies make so-called chelated magnesiums. However, the chelate is partial and the raw material contains some percentage of ionized, unbound or inorganic magnesium. Ionized magnesium may cause diarrhea in many users and, therefore, not correct a cellular magnesium deficiency. Diarrhea, or soft stools, caused by any form of magnesium can make a magnesium deficiency worse.
- The RDA (the minimum amount needed) for magnesium is about 300 mg a day. Most of us get far less than 200 mg. Most people benefit from 400 to 1,000 mg a day.
WHAT DEPLETES MAGNESIUM LEVELS
- During menopause, your estrogen levels are starting to decline, which means magnesium levels are also dropping. Therefore, to help with a number o f common menopausal symptoms like hot flashes and night sweats, magnesium can perhaps make a difference. GOOGLE "A pilot phase II trial of magnesium supplements to reduce menopausal hot flashes in breast cancer patients."
- Refined sugars and food additives can actually stress the nervous system, causing the body to use up magnesium supplies as it tries to counteract this effect
- Magnesium can also be depleted through urinary output caused by some medications such as diuretics, certain antibiotics and cancer drugs. Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/28446-body-magnesium-deficiency/#ixzz1bcl2SP7g
- If you smoke, you may be a candidate for magnesium deficiency. Smoking causes stress that in turn causes blood cholesterol levels to rise and magnesium levels to fall.
- "According to data published in the British Journal of Cancer in 2002, 4 percent of all breast cancers -- about 44,000 cases a year -- in the United Kingdom are due to alcohol consumption. It's an important question though, and one not asked by medical or health officials, is it the alcohol itself or the resultant drop in magnesium levels that is cancer provoking?"....The researchers, led by Dr. Arthur Klatsky of the Kaiser Permanente Medical Care Program in Oakland, Calif., revealed their findings at a meeting of the European Cancer Organization in Barcelona in late 2007. It was found that women who had one or two drinks a day increased their risk of developing breast cancer by 10 percent. Women who had more than three drinks a day raised their risk by 30 percent. The more one drinks, the more one drives down magnesium levels...": A Magnesium Deficiency Increases Cancer Risk Significantly http://www.naturalnews.com/023279_magnesium_cancer_calcium.html#ixzz1bctzaVXn
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MORE ABOUT MAGNESIUM
"Magnesium is an antidote to stress, the most powerful relaxation mineral available, and it can help improve your sleep. ( This is so true!) Also, taking a hot bath with Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) is a good way to absorb and get much needed magnesium..."
Watch Dr. Mark Hyman, Magnesium the Most Powerful Relaxation Mineral
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Both my calcium and multi vitamin contain magnesium...hope that's enough! Any idea about the doseage?
Since my doctor didn't call me back last week about scheduling my MRI I have to call him today to remind him. Somehow that seems weird to me, like it isn't a priority for him, but at least he asked me to remind him if he didn't call. It would be so easy for me to just forget about this whole MRI thing and go get a thermography exam, which is what I'm going to do instead of my next scheduled mammography anyway.
One of the benefits of this new alkaline nutrition program we're on is that we've dropped about five to seven pounds already, and feel so much better. I had cake and wine at a wedding the other night, and I could tell the next day that I didn't have my usual energy...wow!
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Kaara. the RDA (the minimum amount needed) for magnesium is about 300 mg a day. Most of us get far less than 200 mg. Most people benefit from 400 to 1,000 mg a day.
I lost weight too when I went on a vegan alkaline diet. The great thing is it melts off nicely. I noticed that my skin now has a nice glow. Fruits are the new anti aging medicine. I'm never tired either. The micronutrients in "live" foods are great for the brain.
Did you reach your doctor? MRIs are safe, so you might as well get it done. Mammograms worry me too. If you have to have one, I think somewhere in my files I have info on natural ways to detox radiation. I'll post that and info about thermography.
Is anyone else here doing thermograms instead of mammograms?
Sharon
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princess123: Thanks for that information...I think that's what I'm taking from my combined supplements (300) but I'm going to check to make sure.
My doctor called me back and they want to do another mammogram on just the left breast because it's been two months since my last one. He said the area of concern is so inconclusive (wouldn't show up on US) that he wants to make sure it's even still there. If it is, he will do a biopsy...if not...then I'm clear until next check. I asked again about the thermography and he said he doesn't support that as part of his diagnosis and treatment plan. I'm not happy with the idea of another mammogram, but I don't have many choices here. He is the only surgeon in my area that specializes in bc, so I am going along with it to get a final diagnosis. The real challenge for me is going to be in the treatment options if that becomes necessary.
I would be interested in learning how to detox from the radiation because this will be the third mammogram I've had in a two month period....not good! Thank you so much for your help!
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Princess,
I am using capsules. Plus, I don't wear sunscreen all the time. If I am going to be outside for an extended period of time, then I wear it, but a lot of times, I just let the sun give me a natural boost. I was gratified to see that it went up so fast, I must admit.
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sweetbean, I am amazed too. You must be doing something right. 10 000IU should then send your levels way up. I'll stick with the capsules too, and not bother with the drops. I use coconut oil as sunblock, for now. All the antoxidants I take, I think, help me not to burn.
Kaara, one thing at a time, hon. Wait for the DX. Your brain will explode from all the worry, if you jump too far ahead:)
Sharon
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Kaara, take one day at time. Wait for the DX. If you try to think of too many "what ifs", your head will explode with worry, hon.
Sweetbean, thanks. I'll stick with the capsules too. With 10 000 IUs, you'll have optimal levels in next to know time. I think, I'm going to double my dose and take 8000IUs and test again in Feb.
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I have been on the "magnesium protocol" for over a year. I take 300 mg capsule (Designs for Health brand, Magnesium Glycinate Chelate Capsules) 3 times daily. Breakfast, lunch, dinner (sometimes more like 10p to aid in sleep). This level has helped me absorb my vitamin D, has helped with bone resorption (calcium) levels, and has corrected a slight tendency toward hyperparathyroidism.
My theory after taking magnesium for 1 year is that I was seriously malnourished, and my magnesium levels were very, very low. Most people have low levels because our food supply has been grown in magnesium depleted soil. Please consider taking more than the RDA of 300 for optimal benefits, as you will find that your health and immune system might improve.
What my doc told me was to follow the protocol, taking up to 3-4 capsules daily, until I reached the "loose stool" point. Once there, back off by 1 capsule. Stay on this regimen for 6+ months, at which time you may drop to taking 2 capsules daily, 1 in the morning, 1 at night.
I also take Epsom Salt baths 3 times a week. I pour 2 large cups into my bath water, and it helps with muscle soreness (I work out a lot), and helps me to get to sleep at night.
It truly is a "miracle mineral", and I will never stop taking magnesium. Magnesium + Vitamin D increased my energy levels so much that I don't want to go back to the exhaustion I felt before supplementing with these.
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Radiation Exposure From Annual Mammography Increases Breast Cancer Risk in Young High-Risk Women
December 2, 2009 (Chicago, Illinois) - The low doses of radiation associated with annual screening mammography could be placing high-risk women in even more jeopardy of developing breast cancer, particularly if they start screening at a young age or have frequent exposure, according to new research presented here at the Radiological Society of North America 95th Scientific Assembly and Annual Meeting. .... Read www.medscape.com/viewarticle/713242
Digital mammography uses less radiation
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100121135704.htm
Dangers of mammography www.preventcancer.com/patients/mammography/dangers.htm
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Detoxing Radiation
- Add 1 cup of baking soda and 2 cups of epsom salts or sea salt to your bath water and soak.
- Go to a spa or fitness centre and sweat in a sauna.
- Mix a teaspoon of zeolite or bentonite clay in a glass of water and drink it.
- Eat seaweeds i.e kelp, wakame etc. They contain sodium alginate which binds to radioactive strontium and helps eliminate it from the body.
- Take chlorophyll, wheat grass, or chlorella.
Zeolites useful for removing radiation from the body
http://www.naturalnews.com/032265_zeolites_radiation.html#ixzz1bwRj544XHow to Keep Radiation Out of Your Body -- A Two Part Strategy with Daniel Vitalis
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Breast Thermography
Mammograms only look at anatomical changes in the breast, as they detect masses or lumps in the breast tissue. Meanwhile, a cancerous tumor has been growing 8-10 years before it is big enough and dense enough to be detected by mammography.
Breast Cancer Detected From Screening Survival Rates Lower Than Expected http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/236486.php
By the time a tumor becomes the size of a pin head, which is nearly two years into its growth, it can no longer be sustained by the normal blood supply and so it develops its own. The development of that blood supply is called angiogenesis.
Initially developed by the military, thermography is the only technology available that can detect angiogenesis. A tumor at this early stage cannot be detected by mammography or any other technology.
Relatively new to Canada and the US, thermography is widely used in Europe. Over 1500 physicians in Europe use it.Thermography devices have been cleared by the FDA for use as an adjunct, or additional, tool for detecting breast cancer.
Breast Cancer Screening using Thermography ( thermal imaging technology )
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