Is There A September 2011 Chemo Group?
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I was told by all my docs that a lumpectomy and mastectomy have the same rates. My BS made a point of telling me that we could do a mastectomy but he would not be able to get all the breast tissue since it extends into your rib cage and back and it would be a false sense of security. An rads would still be part of the treatment. I chose a lumpectomy/chemo/rads and oomph. Everyone has to make the best choice for themselves.
Jersey- With you on the wig thing. I wore mine out for the first time today and felt like a phony. I got more used to it but it was hot/itchy. I stay home most of the time and I'm on disabilty and don't have to go back to work till March so I am in scarves all the time. I don't know what I would do if I had to work right now. Feel Better!
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good morning ladies. It is so beautiful today that I just hung towels on the clothes line. Wow. Felt so good to be outside for a change. My Se's have already died off --woohoo..so today is mine to enjoy! Khegidio--I opted for a double mast for the same reason. Do not want to do this anytime again soon. My "clean" breast (right) also had LCIS in it that did not show up on the mammo or US so glad I made the choice. It is an individual thing for sure so do what feels right for you!
Maggie
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Hi everyone
It has been awhile since I posted. I have read all the posts (to try and keep up!) and I am glad to see that most people have been better than me at posting, sorry.
Sarah - I am in Canada also. I also was not given a choice between a lumpectomy or a masectomy but was told I would be getting a lumpectomy. At the time I thought it was an acceptable option because my BS was sure I was Stage 2. After surgery I was told I was Stage 3 and triple negative. Would I prefer the masectomy now ...probably. Am I getting BRCA testing ...you bet. Will I have more surgery if it comes back positive ... absolutely. Things are done differently here than in the US to be sure. Sometimes for the good I guess, sometimes not.
I also have alot of pain still in my lumpectomy/auxilla node area. I went for PT way back in July which helped some. There are some exercises that you can do (stretching) that will help alot. With me it is the cording that is causing the pain. When I stretch the arm against a wall several times a day I do feel better. I would check with your health plan to see if you have coverage. If you do go for PT I would do what I am doing. I was told to find one who was trained in Vodder school (www.vodderschool.com) and find a therapist that was a registered massage therapist and that way if your plan doesn't cover PT most cover massage. The vodder school PT are trained in lymphodema massage. The first PT that I went to in July was not and she gave me a very rough massage (not good at all!). I am going on Wednesday to get basesline measurements and more exercises to make the pain in the area better.
I have not gotten sick yet (knock on wood) however on days when I felt something was brewing I took Zinc (10 mg tablet) daily. I asked the pharmacist and he said I could go up to 40 mg daily which seems like a lot to me. The most I have taken is 20 mg when I was sure I was getting the kids colds. Has anyone else been told that this is safe?
CJRT - Sorry to hear about your friend. Somedays you look around you and feel sorry that you are the only one around you going through this crap (with the exception of all you supportive ladies) and then one day someone close to you tells you they have it and you wish you were the only one around you going through it. My girlfriend has also been diagnosed with IDC shortly after me and I am so sad that she has to deal with this also. But then I think of the plus side. I will be almost done my Chemo when she starts hers and I can help her and then I feel better about it.
Kate - Congratulations on the chemo working so well! It sounds like you have made a good well thought out decision for yourself regarding the masectomy.
My life this past week has been fairly normal that is the new normal. The new normal is that I have pain in both sides of my chest (left side port, right side surgery), I am tired and ever so slightly nauseaus all the time, and a new twist (neupagen) I have hip and back pain if I sit too long. BUT I can do everything I did before I started Chemo and more. I got my kids outfitted and organized for Halloween (next treatment day for me too Maggie!), I cleaned up my very scary basement and I am having people over for dinner once again!
This is crappy to go through but I am grateful that I can come here and find people who are going through what I am going through and that we will all get through this together. I was so pumped when Kimberly wrote about Chemo finish dates and realized that I would be done my last Chemo on January 2nd. My son's birthday is December 25 and my daughter's is February 7. We usually do my son's in late January and I realized that I would not have to postpone anything and that really made me happy!
I hope everyone has had a great weekend. Take care.
Karen
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hi all, yesterday and today bad days pretty sure i have mucositis, someone else had it sorry can't remember who. OMG, very painful and the pits,give me back my regular diarrhea! lol have taken reg diarrhea meds doesn't help, was on the pot 3hrs last nite.
so wore out,no housecleaning got done .
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Kayrem- You are 100% right about how I feel. I'm so sorry your friend is going through it too, but that is great you'll be able to help her when she is in the trenches. Glad you'll be able to celebrate the kids' birthdays on the same schedule you are used to...definitely gives something great to look forward to.
Belle- So sorry about how awful you are feeling. Hope you are feeling better soon.
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Hello Ladies. Hope everyone is doing better than me tonight. I feel like I have been run over by a mack truck. Made it through the weekend and the grandson's birthday party, but just barely. Constipated once again even though I tried to pre-empt it by medicating myself. Didn't really work. Been hydrating like a mad woman. And of course, taste buds are gone and I have no appetite. I know I'll be okay in a day or two. I try to keep reminding myself that 3 down, 3 to go. I can do this!!!
Then on top of that we had a tragedy here in our small town on Saturday. Three boys were on a 4-wheeler and were attempting to cross a major US highway here and was struck by a pickup truck. One of the boys was killed and the other two are in serious condition. What makes this even tougher for me and my family is that one of the boys (the one that is most critical) is the half-brother of my granddaughter. So this weekend has not been a very good one for us. All I know right now is that he has a shattered shoulder, will probably take his spleen out, he is not responsive or alert and is in a coma with some brain swelling. Please pray that we get through this and the remaining two boys heal quickly. The boys were only 15 years old. And my heart is so heavy for all of us concerned especially the parents who lost their son. The other boy has broken bones and may lose his foot.
Going to bed now. Going to try and read before drifting off to sleep. Go back to all three jobs tomorrow. Hope I make it! This is one time I just might not make the night job. We'll see what tomorrow brings. Ugh!
HUGS!
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RJ - BIG HUGS.
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RJ, i am so sorry prayers being sent for you and your family and both boys,prayers for the family who lost their son, feel better soon. BIG HUG
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hi all, better day today,hope everyone else is having a good one,too. cleaned my utility room,yeeeah! my daughter carrie brought me some homemade choc. chip cookies mmmm.
tomorrow is chemo day,taking a couple books to read to pass the time.
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Hello ladies.
I am in the pre-chemo nesting preparation, making sure there is enough clean underwear, pre-cooking some meals, trying to come up with ideas that are easy and low-sodium. I don't want to blow up like a water balloon on chemo day like I did last round. Thank god I can at least count on the ice cream for low sodium.
Belle - Those cookies sound good. I was thinking of dream bars with coconut, butterscotch, chocolate, nuts, and graham crackers. I forgot the condensed milk when I went shopping last time. I was also thinking of oatmeal scotchies but I think they have too much salt for me right now. Glad you are feeling better.
RJ - So sorry to hear about the boys. I know you are going to be beat for a while yet, but keep us updated when you can.
Karen - I am glad you have the energy and are able to get so much accomplished despite this. It sounds like you are doing so much better than with the previous round. Don't know how you're doing it, getting all that extra stuff done, but I admire it.
Kate - I'm glad you feel comfortable with your surgical decision, but I wonder if it is safe for you to get pregnant with the ER+ diagnosis. I'm not sure, but I think that another pregnancy might pose a huge risk for you cancer-wise with the estrogen surge during pregnancy.
Jersey - I haven't tried it yet but the Aveeno is supposed to help with itching. I don't know why I didn't pick it up. It was jumping out at me last time I was at the pharmacy. I have to go back this week anyway. I'll be your product tester, will try it and let you know. I'm not sure, but I think Kelli suggested it. -
Well Ladies, didn't make that third job tonight. Just too exhausted and my body is aching all over. Just want to vegetate at the house tonight. At least my co-workers at the store understand. I sure hope I am better tomorrow. I will plan to work all three jobs Wednesday. I keep telling myself if I can just get through the next couple of days I will get better and better. Now I'm really wondering what #4 is going to do to me!
The boys are still in ICU. There has been more brain swelling in my granddaughter's half brother, Colby, but the doctor's told the family that they expected that. My oldest said that Colby's eyes are moving even though they are closed so hopefully that is a good sign. Just a pretty much wait and see kinda thing. And we all know how hard the waiting is. They found out from the other boy, Dylan, that he was the one driving and if they had been on his 4-wheeler they'd have made it! What the hell are they thinking?
Well, gotta go for now. A hot bath and some bubbles sounds good to me!
HUGS!
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Hi Everyone,
I had a good day today, first day in 2 weeks I went without some form of cough medicine. Managed to get through with just a couple Halls. My co-worker came by this morning to have tea and give me a knitting lesson it was a really nice break from daytime TV and kids. I really am starting to miss work, I think is more about keeping busy and the adult interaction than the job.
I booked the Disney trip today and had a moment of pure joy and excitement. Feels good to have something to look forward to.
Hoping the Friday goes as well as round 2 and that I can enjoy a little Halloween. Got to get through the blood draw which seems to pose such a problem. I have to have it drawn through the pick by a nurse at home then take the vials to the lab myself, the tech at the lab apparently can't draw from the Pick. It was a difficult draw last time so I will cross my fingers for this round.
Hope everyone is feeling better today than yesterday.
Take Care
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Hi Ladies
Kimberly - yeah you are right I am doing better than last round. It really makes a huge difference when you don't spend the first 24 hours vomiting! I am still nauseaus with the horrible headache but not actually getting sick helps the getting back on your feet part immensely. It is true what you say about pre chemo nesting. I am heading out tomorrow to stock up on the Biotene mouthwash and toothpaste in preparation for Monday.
Belle - I am glad today is better for you. Glad you had the energy to tackle the utility room!
Rjbaby - Sorry to hear that you feel so crappy. You are done number 3 so you are now over 1/2 way done. One day at a time and soon we will all be done, Sorry to hear about the boys in your town (especially your grandaughter's half brother). The whole cancer thing freaks me out but at least it isn't like you are here one moment and gone the next. Even the ones of us who may not be so lucky to be cured will still have lots of time to say and do the things that we feel are important. But when you die suddenly and you are only 15 you really haven't experienced much of life and it is pretty sad for a parent to lose thier child (it just isn't the way life is supposed to happen). I hope things get better both for you physically and for the young boy in your family.
SPCMadi - I am glad to hear that you are doing better. It is great that you have booked a trip to Disneyworld! You have inspired me! I now think we may be going in May also (rather than waiting for October) because I need something to be excited about to get me through the rest of this crap.
Well I have to go buy Halloween treats tomorrow. My son is going out as Harry Potter and my daughter is going to be a fluffy bunny. My husband will be taking them out and my brother will be handing out candy and watching over me. And my job...is to lay back and try not to puke! But that will be my last FEC treatment. Then I have 3 Taxotere and I am done Chemo, YEAHHHH!
Take care everyone.
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Maggie: Wow, your insurance company is one pain in the neck after another. Mine has been great about my cancer, but on one of my treatments for my neck, we had to fight to get coverage. I don't know if it was a legal thing or not, but our insurance finally had to cover it once we should it was medically necessary and we had no other options. Not sure if it applies in your case, but wanted to pass it on.
CJRT: Sorry for your upheaval, like you, I don't like when things change after we have a plan I finally started to accept and feel good about. When I was originially going to have the chemo first, they were going to do 4 rounds, stop and operate and then finish the last 4. My doctor said that removing the cancer was top priority and he was only going to start the chemo first to stop its movement and that surgery was the primary way we would get rid of it. Also, I had the lumpectomy and will have rads when this is over. For me, it is a peace of mind issue only. I can tell you the lumpectomy meant a quicker recovery, but when so many others have had MX I began to wonder if my doctors were right. However, since then, I have read the research and there really is no difference in survival and recurrence rates and with there being some concern that it can give women a false sense of security, I think it will one day be the more prevalent response.RJ and Jersy: (((HUGS))))
I'm really glad to hear some are doing better this round with SE's. Maybe it is the time of year, but is seems like many of us are starting to struggle with the emotional SE's. I'm really glad we can all come here and lean on each other. For those with itchy wig issues, I had that really bad so I got a human wig and it not only worked but I feel like it looks more natural. If anyone wants the name of the website where you can get some for under a hundred dollars, pm me and I will send you a link (I don't think we are allowed to post them for things that are sold).
My worst SE this go around (other than my 5 day pity party) was a ridiculous headache that finally became so bad we called the doctor. He said it was the Zofran probably and is had me take Ativan instead along with prochlorperazine (whatever that is.) Headache went away and we are going to change the Zofran to something else next time. My nausea seems to be lasting longer this time but it could be the lack of Zofran. -
Hello ladies. Today is a much better day. I think it helped me tremendously to not go to work last night. I was able to just relax, take my nice hot bath and lounge in the bed reading before drifting off to sleep early. It was so nice! I still have some aches and pains today but not nearly as bad.
No change in Colby. Dylan is out of ICU and is on the mend. Zach's funeral is tomorrow. Been kinda sad around the school. The 9th grade students formed a prayer chain for Colby yesterday and it was so nice to see the show of support of this young man.
SCPMadi: So glad you booked that Disney trip! I'm envious! Hope you have a great time and I'm glad it made you so happy. You deserve it after all you've been through.
Kayrem: Thank you so much. I just try to keep telling my self that I have 3 down and 3 to go and I can do it! I feel I'm on the uphill swing now as far as my crappy feeling. I am better today and I know I'll be even better tomorrow. Will see the Doctor on Thursday and do blood work. Kinda interested to see what my counts are and if they are as low as they were last time at this time.
Hopefully, I will be back tonight when I get in. Planning on steak and baked potatoe! Yum! Yum!
HUGS!
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hi all, 3 down 5 to go. todays wait was shorter 1 hr and 45 min to get my meds. yeeeeeeah. the chemo nurse said next time if blood work was good the week before to call when i leave my house 1 1/2 hrs away and hopefully the meds will be there when i get there, she gave me a card.
on a bad note,had to take nausea med as soon as i got to car,thought i was going to throw up. bad headache started with cytoxin,head feels weird, feel just lousy.
i don't think this is a good sign for how this go round is going to be, hope i'm wrong.
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rjbaby: so sorry to hear about the accident. That is horrible. I feel deeply for the family that lost their son, as well as you and the other family that are dealing with the serious/critical injuries. Horrible. I will keep you and those boys in my thoughts and prayers. I am sorry you are feeling so badly.
Kimberly:Your are probably right.... I probably won't be able to have another child just because of the risk to me. My dr. has already told me I would have to delay tamoxifen if I wanted to conceive which I don't think is in my best interest. My husband and I spoke about this risk prior to chemo - really to see if we wanted to harvest eggs. The answer is no. We decided against that and decided if we couldn't have another child naturally we would adopt. I guess I was just hoping to still have the opportunity.
scpmadi:Congrats on your trip to Disney. I love that place. I love universal studios and islands of adventure too. I cannot wait to take my son. He is only 15 months so he has another 5 years or so.
I have a question - if your squeamish about possible TMI... please stop reading now
I have had 2 rounds of chemo with my 3rd next Wednesday. My period was scheduled to start on 10/9 - which after my first chemo (9/21) but before my 2nd chemo treatment (10/12). I got it early and it lasted a little longer than normal. About a week after - mid last week - I started getting a very light flow - like a watery flow with a little bit of brown blood. I am wondering has anyone had this? I kind of started to panic today thinking the worst that it could be cervical cancer. I know that chemo can send me into early menopause and cause weird things with your cycle. I plan on calling the nurse tomorrow and based on her recommendation scheduling an appt. with my obgyn. But has anyone had anything like this? I am concerned and curious and eager.
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Hi Everyone
Kate - my period has been wonky since my breast surgery in June! I was scared when I saw my surgeon in August when she brought it up and told me that surgery/general anesthetic can screw up your cycles. My period usually comes every 27 or 28 days. Well today it started after 22 days and it doesn't look particularly normal. I think it is just the chemo but I am going to ask my oncologist tommorow. I just thought I would let you know that I did not start having kids until my late 30's. I had my son just 3 months before I turned 39 and my daughter 1 month before I was 41. I felt ancient next to all my kids school mom's and I had the youngest kids compared to all my school friends. Then something wierd happened I had 3 friends (who previously did not have any kids) the same age or older than me who adopted kids younger than mine! So I guess what I am saying is one way or another when the time is right, I am sure you will get your wish for another child.
Belle - I strongly suspect that I get so nauseated treatment day because of the headache also. The last treatment they gave me Emend which seemed to stop me from vomiting but I still felt incredibly nauseated (and barely human) until the next day when the headache lifted. The nurse told me to take a Sudafed because one of the drugs can give you a sinus headache (the C in the FEC). I hope your headache lifts and you are doing better soon.
To everybody else hope you are doing well. Take care.
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Hello ladies.
I threw up today for the first time this morning since chemo started, trying to get the drain going better with Drano, Liquid Plumber. I have cleaned up dog puke several times and been OK on chemo. Something about that smell, chemical, made me feel sick before, and today I lost it, one day before next chemo, ran to the kitchen sink. Dry retch, retch, retch.
I often want to hide during this sickness, don't want to let anyone else in, but saw a cousin and my aunt who knew my mom very well, and gained a ton of strength with the laughter, understanding. I don't know why I want to hide away when, no matter where they are, the strength just seens to flow from them. One part of me gets emotional. One part of me feels so good to get the love. Mostly they just make me laugh and we share stories, and it's good.
Kate - You have a beautiful child. You seem to have a really great husband. I felt really shitty bringing up the hormone danger to you and asking if you were aware of it. I hope you are able to add to your family and live a long, long life.
I have chemo tomorrow and with all of the emotions and intelligence of a child, I don't want to go. With all the intelligence of an adult, there is not really any choice. Chemo. Down the hatch #3.
Thank you ladies for support on this thread. I would have a hard time doing this alone.
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Khegidio---I got my period just after round 2 and it started the same way. Brown yucky. Then I exploded with a heavy flow for 4 days and then it just abruptly went away...I am hoping never to be seen again---I am 43 and have 2 grown kids so really do not need it any more. I hope you and your husband can fulfill your dreams of more children. Adoption is such a wonderful option..I have a 24 yr old neice that was adopted from birth and I usually forget she is adopted because she is the spitting image of my SIL.
Belle--sorry you get such SE's each time. I am scared of the AC portion of the chemo which begins on tx 5 Rest up and feel better soon!
Maggie
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Third of four today -- had to wait for a chair so was at the clinic for about five hours today. Still, I checked and double-checked that I was getting the 20% reduced dose my MO called for. So far I've felt kind of like I did after my first chemo -- heavy legs, zonked brain. I am really trying to be strong this time and "will" the SEs to be milder. Yeah, that'll work.
Kimberly1961 -- I know what you're talking about. I didn't want to do the third treatment, and I told my husband I was thinking about stopping and going to radiation. I was dead serious, and if my MO hadn't listened this time and reduced my dosage, I might have gone through with it.
So *hugs* to you and to everyone here who is suffering from these crappy SEs.
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Oh forgot in last post to say that I talked with my insurance agent today who called the ins co and said that radiation therapy would be covered at the cancer center they just have to make sure that they "bill" it correctly. They put in for a doc's office visit and I had to pay $70 but the rad part just has to be coded right! Whew....that is a load off of me. Would have fought em though.
Kelliregi where are you hope you are ok? Miss you
Maggie
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maggie, i don't mean to make you scared of a/c,hopefully you won't have these side effects. it affects everyone different. regardless, we can and will get thru this.
i, too, am so thankful for the support on this thread. here's to less and less side effects for everyone!
going to bed,taking a compazine,sleeping pill hoping for a good nite'ssleep. nite all.
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Maggie, that is great news! Good for knowing the "secret code."
Meant to mention earlier that since I essentially didn't have any treatments for four weeks, my hair is trying to grow. My husband shaved it down to a quarter-inch sometime after the ... first session? 14 or so days after the first? Ye gods, I can't remember for sh*t these days. Anyway, now it's definitely longer than a quarter-inch, and I feel like saying "STOP! DON'T DO IT!"
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Hope you all are doing well tonight. I have a question I was hoping somebody could help with. I have my last DD AC this week and then I will start the Taxol in 2 weeks. I was wondering what to expect? My MO said I should take it better but the pain will be worse but I should feel better overall. Did you find that? I feel like I did when I just started. Any tips?
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Hey Ladies: Hope you are all well tonight. I am much, much better! Yeah! Starting to feel stronger and not so exhausted.
And I'm like Kimberly, I am so glad if we have to be in a club, at least we are together. I appreciate each and every one of you so much. You make me laugh when I am down, help me hold my head up when I don't feel like going on and give such great advice. Thank you all for being my cyber friends. You are all greatly appreciated.
Hope we all have a SE free night and wonderful hump day tomorrow.
Rest well my friends.
HUGS!
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Wow, you are all very good about posting! I am feeling somewhat "normal" since Friday, still tire easily and have really weird appetite. I had last period on first day of chemo and haven't seen any physical signs since (I am 49). Not sure what to expect. I cut my hair really short after first tx, I still have some hair, I am wondering if anyone else does and if that will fall out or not???? I am so dreading tx #3, next Monday! I think I know what to expect and I hate it!!! I know how you feel not wanting to go to #3!! Seems like it should get easier, but really seems harder!!
♥♥ Sara ♥♥
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Well I feel like it has been forever since I have been on here and in some ways emotionally it feels like forever. My 20 year old son died unexpectedly while at college. I have had to make it through all of it his memorial service etc while fighting the ever worsening side effects. Our church and community have been so supportive and couldn't have made it through without our strong belief in God who has sustained us throughout. Not quite as much laughter at my house but time heals all. I am just getting worse with the SEs even walking for any distance is difficult. Didn't want to make anyone feel bad just needed to share because I have gotten so much support from this group and couldn't continue to post about chemo stuff without talking about other part of life that may affect it. Don't know if I am making any sense at all these days. Rae
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Bluejay- Hope this round is easier with the reduced dose.
Kimberly- Hope tomorrow goes well and so glad you had a nice visit. Definitely understand the mixed feelings of isolating verus being with those we care about who uplift us.
RJ- So glad you are feeling better and so sorry to hear about those boys.
Belle- Hope you are able to get a good night's sleep and wake up feeling good.
I also agree with everyone about how wonderful this group is and how it helps me feel connected when I am at my lowest. I hate knowing that others have to go through this too, but find you all so inspiring. Thank you!!
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Rae- I just read what you wrote after I had already posted. I am in shock and have no idea what to say to express how sorry I am about your son. From how much you brighten and levitate this board, I can only imagine what you must do for your family. I am so glad that you have found such support with your community and church. May your faith continue to sustain you and know that my thoughts and prayers are with you.
I am sorry that you must also deal with such bad side effects as you grieve such a tremendous loss. Perhaps discussing them with your MO before your next cycle might be helpful, as my MO just indicated that she was going to make some adjustments to mine because I was having similar problems.
Hugs..
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