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  • marthah
    marthah Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2011

    Joan811,

    First :::hugs::: It's going to be okay, honey...really

    In my experience, and based on what I've heard everyone else here report, the rads treatments are in an open machine. You should not be enclosed for your treatments. 

    Now, if you have to have an MRI and or/CT, then you will likely need to endure for that. Have you had an MRI before? I found that to be toughest part in all of the rads journey, because my arms fell asleep...I couldn't lift them to put them back down to my sides after the CT and MRI (both done in the same machine)! It was silly! 

    I will say this -- I was just so damned relieved to be past chemo that I really didn't care what rads was going to be like -- I just knew it wasn't going to be as hard. And so far, I've been right! 

    This morning was #10 of 26, plus boosts (but not sure how many boosts yet...they'll figure that out towards the end). And so far, my skin is faring well. I've been using the Miaderm 2-3x/day, and it's been working fine. 

    Happy Monday, ladies! Welcome to the other new folks who have joined our little group! 

    Cheers! M

  • Reality
    Reality Member Posts: 782
    edited October 2011

    Beaglesgirl - thanks for putting it in perspective for me  - you are right, we have all been through so much, this to shall pass!  I had the "bee sting" (more like a wasp sting), when I had radioisotope injected in my breast for SNB - The tech told me it would be painful, but it was not bad at all.

    Mccrimson- I just looked at the research study summary - the Cytoxan and Rheumatix have been shown to prevent the formation of new blood vessels in cancer, so hopefully it will work that way for me and many others. The aspirin is given to prevent blood clots (that's a liitle scary as they do not go into much detail - I will definitely ask them about that part!). Siimilar studies have shown no significant effect on recurrance - oh well, even if it does not work for me, my arthritis may feel better for awhile from the Reumatix (lol).  I do admit that being closely monitored for two years for the study is a bit comforting.

    Robyn and llml005- thank for your input - I really appreciate it. I am still in the routine of many med people looking at my exposed breast, so it will be par for the course.  

  • Reality
    Reality Member Posts: 782
    edited October 2011

    Thanks for the welcome, Marthah, and for starting this thread!

    Sher 

  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited October 2011

    Well, I finally went in for my planning appt and it was so short! I thought it would take hours but it was only maybe 30 minutes. They took a pic of my face for my file, then some people drew on my chest with a sharpie, and then they did a CT scan. Joan, I didn't have to hold still for too long, so it wasn't bad at all. Of course, I did get teary because I've been such an emotional wreck lately :( I tried not to cry hard so they wouldn't have to redo the scan.



    Afterward, they gave me a little smock top thingy to bring home and it's mine to wear during rads. I can wash it or whatever myself, and it fits me a lot better than the giant hospital gowns because they came in every different size. Next time I go, I can change into my little top, then when I go sit down, they'll know I'm ready for my appointment. I like that I can wash it with my detergent, so it will smell like home and less like hospital - you know? And they let me choose which one I wanted, in terms of pattern and style, and it's such a small thing, but it gave me a little feeling of control.



    The tech told me they don't like to make tattoos until later, after they check to make sure they are getting the right areas. I'm not allowed to scrub my chest with a washcloth, but otherwise the

    Sharpie marks are expected to survive my showers...I'm not surehowlong it will be before my tattoos.and I'm not sure if my next appt is the real deal or just a simulation, so I might call tomorrow and ask. I was too emotional to ask this time.



    I start next Monday - Happy Halloween! Maybe somebody will start a Nov board? We will be the Countdown to Christmas/Kwanzaa/Hanukkah group.



    Nat

  • dawmson
    dawmson Member Posts: 75
    edited October 2011

    Natters, I love the idea of having your own personal smock to wear. The robe thingys at my radiation center are too big for me and I'm constantly pulling them tight so I don't inadvertently flash someone (so glad to see I still have some modestly left, ha). I'lll definitely be there for the November board since my last treatment is Nov. 28. 

    #9 of 33 today - 1/4 of the way done! What's really cool is that two days from now I'll be 1/3 of the way done. That feels a whole heck of a lot bigger to me.

    Shirleta, just to chime in, the tattoos were super easy. Just a tiny pinprick, that's it. I hardly notice them on my skin now. Don't be afraid to ask questions or just talk to the techs. I find that that helps calm my nerves if we talk about kids, the weather, whatever. 

  • Reality
    Reality Member Posts: 782
    edited October 2011

    Thanks for chiming in, Dawmson - My oncology team knows a lot more about my grandchildren than they probably want to, but you are right, the talking does help get us through the tough times. So far, my med team has been great. 

  • Reality
    Reality Member Posts: 782
    edited October 2011

    jBest wishes, Nat - I will be right here with you through November.

    Sher 

  • marthah
    marthah Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2011

    Nat, I think that's a great idea that your team gives you a smock to wear and take home. I get to use one of those pink and purple ponchos, like they use in the mammo clinic. They're stiffly starched, but I only have to wear it for >30 minutes, so no big deal. I get to wear a hospital robe too. Stylin'!!!!! ssssssssssssssssssssssmokin'! LOL

    On the up side, they are both 100% cotton and very absorbent for when I start having a hot flash and sweat all over everything! EmbarassedYellLaughing

  • Paintingmywaythru
    Paintingmywaythru Member Posts: 317
    edited October 2011

    abatellik...I interviewed 3 RO before finally going with one at MGH. I was not happy with the first.

    It is good to hear people are getting soem prescription meds for their radiation. I am turning red and have reached the midway make of 15 treatments. My right breast....feels tender and burning and I am using aloe as much as possible and aveeno cream that the nurse gave me. This week I will ask about soemthing more...

    Sorry for all of you with little ons who are sick...yes sanitize as much as you can to stay healthy.

    JAndot....wow oh wow that is a really long time....they should have a system that works where they call you and tell you they are running late. The longest I have had to wait was 15 minutes...got to meet the social worker today which felt unnecessary since the real fear was the chemo and triple negative diagnosis and all that went with that but I guess she was doing her job.

    Hope all have a good night.

    KAy1963...can you bottle some denial and send it my way...I need soem now as we are trying to sell our house, living in what I call my personal hotel and planning to commute to our jobs 70 miles so we can live in our summer house and save money......oh my....

  • pam53
    pam53 Member Posts: 131
    edited October 2011

    Had #20 of 34 today.  Saw RO.  She is concerned with how red my skin is getting.  She is going to let me have two more treatments and then see me again on Wed.  I was so upset.  I don't want any treatment delays.  I soooo want this over.  It is red, but no blisters or peeling.  I keep putting my aveno on 4x/day.

  • lovetosail
    lovetosail Member Posts: 544
    edited October 2011

    Hi Nat - I start on Halloween too! 35 zaps for me.

    Sue

  • KiwiMum
    KiwiMum Member Posts: 704
    edited October 2011

    Hi ladies. I had my #1 of 25 today.  It was OK apart from feeling a tiny bit claustrophobic.

    I am having 4 sites treated so it took longer than I expected.  I was on the table approx 20 mins by the time they were done.  It took a while to position me and line up tattoos. They then did one type of radiation for 3 sites and then put an attachment on the machine for last part. This was to the chest wall and a "gel" type square was put directly onto my chest. The radio goes through that.

    I'm glad I've started so I can start counting down.

  • pejkug3
    pejkug3 Member Posts: 902
    edited October 2011
    Dropping in to give you October rads ladies some encouragement.  :)

    I had 35 tx, left side - finished up on 8/12.  My skin did go south and open up under my arm, under my breast, and I took off my nightshirt one Sunday morning and 2/3rds of my nipple went off with my shirt.  Yeah, OUCH!  I also had one oval burn on my collarbone from my positioning for boosts.  It resembled a hickey and my RO didn't even recognize it as a rads burn until I asked him what was up with the burn way up on my collarbone!  LOL

    Anyhow, all that to say it gets better!!  My skin was healed completely within 2 weeks and I was wearing my underwire bras within 3 weeks of finishing rads.  The days are long but the weeks are short.  :)

    You can do it!!
  • MidnightIllustrator
    MidnightIllustrator Member Posts: 38
    edited October 2011

    Hi everyone

    Glad to find this conversation...Marthah, was it you who suggested it on another thread?

    Anyway, it helps to read all your stories. I have my tattoos already & go tomorrow for the dry run. I've been more apprehensive about this than I was about surgery. I hope I get a smock (I want a pink one). I am having 34 treatments lasting until Dec. 12. With so many zaps, I'm worried about the SE. I have fair skin and large breasts. And Pekjug3, I'm glad to hear you healed up so well after some nasty burns. I feel encouraged. I wish I didn't have to spend Thanksgiving in the middle of this.

    I appreciate all the advice on creams and lotions. Thanks.

  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited October 2011

    Hi klick, I used Miaderm lotion during the day and emu oil at night.  Both are available on Amazon. Miaderm is expensive, but I went through rads with no major burning and only a few small skin breaks under the breast.  Good luck to you and everyone.

  • MidnightIllustrator
    MidnightIllustrator Member Posts: 38
    edited October 2011

    Thanks Elizabeth...I'll look it up. I expect everything to go well, but I'll hedge my bets.

  • 5kidsMom
    5kidsMom Member Posts: 118
    edited October 2011

    all this talk of creams, and I haven't heard anyone using what I'm using!  My tx center recommended "udderly smooth" cream, and told me to use it twice a day from the day BEFORE rads started.  I used it 3-4x/day and today was told my skin was "remarkably good".  I've had 15 tx and my skin is just a little pink.  the down side is that my mx scar is opening--ugh.  It took 3 months to heal initially, and now is open at the corner.  The RO said that isn't uncommon and to keep using the cream often, and to avoid stretching my arm. 

  • Teresa5
    Teresa5 Member Posts: 16
    edited October 2011

    My RO recommended OTC Eucerin cream twice daily. Nothing else yet....I have had 11 of 33 with just a little redness and somewhat tender scar and nipple area.

    For those of you dealing with claustrophobia (including me)... I have had no problems with the actual treatments (they are really quick). I get a little scared on the days when I have to have x-rays to check my alignment, but you are never closed in, you just have to stay still for a longer period of time. But, what has eased my fears is that I have the same group of techs everyday and they are so sweet and understanding.They practically run back and forth and talk to me as much as possible the whole time. I also expressed my fear with my RO on Dr day last Tues (hoping that he will come quicker when paged : )....   I hope this eases some of your fears. 

  • Reality
    Reality Member Posts: 782
    edited October 2011

    Hello and many thanks to all for your support - I thought of each of you on my drive to planning this a.m, All went very well - My rad onc is very personable. He spent a lot of time with me. He even went over my oncologists notes with me. I also received a lot of information from my nurse and the rad tech - i go Nov 2 for simulation. 

    Thanks again,

    Sher - yea- the tatoos did not hurt at all - Im sure that the extra strength tylenol and prozac I took helped, also.

  • rn4babies
    rn4babies Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2011

    I had #1 of 30 today. I'm glad to finally get things started. It wasn't too bad. I think my breast feels a little tingly and achy. I was told to use Aquaphor, Udderly Smooth or 100% Aloe Vera gel later on. Overall, it wasn't too bad. They did a couple of films and tattoos today so it took a little longer.

  • MostlySew
    MostlySew Member Posts: 1,418
    edited October 2011

    5kidsmom,

    Wow, I think you need to move to Northern Ca. Those charges seem extremely high just for radiation! My initial set up, scans, Dr. Visits etc was $12,000. The radiation treatments including 2 X-rays per week and the Dr. Visit is running $3600 weekly. I believe the total will be about $36,000 for the 33 treatments.



    And you've been billed $71,000 thru 10 treatments? Amazing. Is it a gold plated machine? Do they serve 3 gourmet meals per day? Hmmmmmmm

  • 5kidsMom
    5kidsMom Member Posts: 118
    edited October 2011

    Mostly Sew--LOL on the gold plated machine!!  This is what was billed by the hospital, I'm finding that what my insurance actually pays is usually much less.  Very interesting to see.  My surgery was billed at close to $40,000 but the insurance paid only $6,000. . . . seems like that was a little low for all they did!  MX, SNB plus all the scans, the actual surgery 24 hrs in the hospital etc etc. 

    Today I got a surprize at my appt: they therapists all sang happy birthday to me :)  The actual birthday was Saturday, and they apologized all over the place for not having sung yesterday or Friday.  Apparently they tried to sing yesterday, but I got dressed and left so fast, they missed me!  So glad that the people at this place are so kind, makes such a difference!  Where I got my chemo, they were also very, very kind, and I was thinking I couldn't find anyone like that again!  My surgeon's office on the other hand. . . . they were at the other end of the "kindness scale".  ugh.

  • MostlySew
    MostlySew Member Posts: 1,418
    edited October 2011

    5kidsMom,

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY! how cute for them to sing. It does help to have caring professionals. I've been lucky to have great people too.

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited October 2011

    5kidsmom,  Happy Birthday!!!  That was very nice.  Do you have to confirm your birthdate with every appointment/treatment?  I am getting so tired of that, but on the plus side, they couldn't possibly miss my birthday.  However, mine isn't until January, so I will be done before that.  Hope you had a nice b-day!

    Paintingmywaythru, a supersize bottle of denial coming your way!  What ever you need to float your boat, nothing wrong with a little bit of denial.

    pejkug3, thanks for the encouragement!  Your comments are much appreciated.  That nipple story sounds scary.  Did it end up okay?

    Had #15 of 28 today, over half way done!! WooHoo!  I am red under my arm, no peeling or blisters and RO said it was within the normal range.  Also, really patchy red and itchy on top of the breast.  They gave me 1% hydrocortozone cream for the itch.  RO said that is common on areas that were exposed to sun.  Breast is not very red except around the scar which is where my nipple used to be.  Undecided  Hope I can get thru the second half without much more damage.  Hang in there everyone, we'll get thru it.

  • Joan811
    Joan811 Member Posts: 2,672
    edited October 2011

    5kidsmom, just read your "cost of rads" post.  Am shocked. But those birthday singers get paid well Smile   Hope your birthday was great!

    Marthah, thanks - yes, I had one MRI and not enough meds - they had to take me out once, then I shut my eyes tight and just dealt with it.  But i didn't have these dreadfull allergies then.  Am not expecting to be in a tube!
    Natters, sounds like you are on your way to finally starting rads...I like the vest idea!  I think I'd decorate it for each session done.  Am expecting a paper bolero at my med center, but don't know.
    Teresa5, I could deal with what you described. 
    Can anyone briefly describe whether you lie flat, recline part way, sit up etc. for rads?  And is anyone using the contour seat designed to keep you still? 

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited October 2011

    I lie almost completely flat.  The table can be lifted to a lot of different inclines.  I think I am at the lowest incline.  They made a cast of my head and arms at my simulation and I fit into that at each treatment. 

    I pick a new gown every tx.  They have about 12 private dressing rooms stocked with them, they have three sizes.  After tx, stick it in the hamper in the dressing room and get changed and leave.  On RO days though (Mondays), I get a heated gown from the heated drawers in the exam rooms.  Cool

    Regarding costs, not sure what rads cost, but I saw my surgery and hospital stay cost $96,000 (that is what insurance paid).  I had uni MX and DIEP reconstruction and stayed in hospital for 5 days.

  • abatellik
    abatellik Member Posts: 80
    edited October 2011

    Is anyone else using Alra cream?

    I also like to look at the charges just for fun and also to take a little time to be thankful for insurance. Prayers for those who don't have it (or enough of it)- cancer is stressful enough without having to worry about finances!!

  • CarylC
    CarylC Member Posts: 230
    edited October 2011

    Did anyone else get pink tattoos?  Some of mine are pink and a couple are blue.  They put the pink ones up high where they might show so they almost look like freckles, I can't even find them.  The blue ones are a bit easier to see.  

  • pejkug3
    pejkug3 Member Posts: 902
    edited October 2011
    Regarding costs of rads - mine ended up right around $86K.  Thank God for healthcare insurance!

    Kay1963 - yes, my nipple healed up rather quickly and is now just darker and smaller than the other one.  My left breast is 1 - 1 1/2 cup size smaller than my non-rads breast.  Noticeable when I'm naked, not noticeable in clothes.
  • MidnightIllustrator
    MidnightIllustrator Member Posts: 38
    edited October 2011

    Wow...It's been so helpful to read everyone's stories today.

    I had my first treatment, this one without the zap. It took about 30 minutes. When the tech asked if I needed anything, I said "Yes. A pinafore." He's so young he didn't know what that was, but they covered me with warm blankets. I got marked up with a livestock marker (just joking, it was actually disappearing ink and the marks were gone when I got home.) I think they just put them on to take a photo of the area to be treated. Tomorrow, the real thing starts and I'm starting to realize just what a time committment it is.

    It's so good to know that we're all in similar boats...we can raft together and toss the burn cream to each other. Thanks.

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