A Friend Issue

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I started this thread because I have a friend of 20 years who has "checked out" following my DX and BMX. In the course of six weeks, she has left 1 short voicemail. And the message was icey and detached -- no empathy whatsoever. I returned her call but never heard back. And that was three weeks ago.



I'm appreciative of all the love and support I've received from friends and family. But I was blinsided with this particular friend.



I'm wondering if I should call or write her to see what's going on -- then the other part of me thinks it's just time to weed her out....



Your thoughts?

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  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited October 2011

    I had the same issue but it was multiple friends or whom I thought were my friends.  No phone calls, no emails - no "How are you?".  I was very hurt but then it showed me who my real friends are.

    Some people just can't handle the cancer issue.  Some people don't know what to say so they say nothing at all.  Others don't want to be burdened with trying to support you.

    It is a true shame and it really hurts. 

    Whether or not you try to maintain contact is up to you.  When you need so much support do you want to use energy to maintain contact?

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited October 2011

    I agree with jancie. 

    I think, though, playing devil's advocate, from the other person's perspective, that sometimes its just really hard to do the right thing.  The day after my excision, I told people at work about my awful wire insertion experience, and they said things like, "Gee, we aren't going to go through this again?  We just went through this with my neighbor."  She had no idea what my wire insertion was like.  I wanted someone who cared.   I didn't feel like she cared. I told them the subject was off-limits.  I wanted contact, but I wanted not just any contact - I wanted *sincere* sympathy.

    I ended up only confiding in people who I felt were sincere. 

    As jancie says, the choice is yours, but do you want to use energy to maintain contact?

  • Tatina123
    Tatina123 Member Posts: 480
    edited October 2011

    Thanks, ladies.... My choice is to surround myself with people who truly care. I can certainly use my time and energy on other things than trying to salvage something that may not be worth it.....thanks for the eye-opener!

  • bjnash
    bjnash Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2011

    It is true that some people just don't know how to handle their own emotions when someone they know is diagnosed. I think it is a form of "detachment". Its sad - and I can't imagine the guilt they may be feeling or that they will feel if their friend or family member ends up losing their battle to bresat cancer. I am the youngest of 11 children - have 5 sisters and 4 brothers ( one brother recently died). All of them live in close proximity but in reality, there are 2 sisters who I really feel I can count on and who have helped me more than I could ever imagine. And several of my other siblings do have the time, they just chose not to show me their love & support.I have also had issues with friends who either treat me like I have a contagious disease or caused really unneccesary, high school type drama at a time when I certainly didn't need it. Surround yourself with those who make you feel good because a strong will & positive thoughts are half the battle. It really doesn't matter how many people we have to see us through, even one person who is there for you without fail is enough. If she continues to act like this, you need to do what is best for you & not concern yourself with negative bahevior like that. When the chips are down, you find out who you can really count on.Good luck to you

  • Tatina123
    Tatina123 Member Posts: 480
    edited October 2011

    Thank you so much for your input. Last week, I actually wrote this "friend" a letter (trying to understand what was going on with her since my DX), sealed it an envelope, put a stamp on it and put it in my office.  That little voice in my head told me not to mail it and that's when I decided to start this thread. After your great input, and giving myself a chance to let this sink in, I tossed the letter in the trash can this afternoon.  She's not worth my time.....

    You really know who the special people are in your life when life throws you a curve ball.

    T  

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited October 2011

    Unfortunatly many of us have gone through the same thing. It usually comes from people you think will always be there for you and the shock of them "checking out" is so hard to get over because you thought they were someone you could count on. I am sorry this happened to you too.

  • Jellydonut
    Jellydonut Member Posts: 1,043
    edited October 2011

    "Weed her out" and don't look back.

    You don't need negative energy in your life, nor do you need a "friend" who isn't really a friend at all.

    Best to you.

    Jelly

  • gentianviolet
    gentianviolet Member Posts: 316
    edited October 2011

    Let me relate a friend issue, and I will try to give you all the short version.  I have had this friend for over 50 years.  Upon being diagnosed I called my friend within that month and tearfully told her what had happened.  She was very nurturing and asked me a gazillion questions, all of which were not only hard for me to talk about but mostly I did not know the answers, however I did answer with the information I had at that point.  We spoke quite often and as I became more aware of what breast cancer really was I could answer more questions and with much less crying.  She was very caring.  Fast forward to a year later when she told me in a phone call that she had had a lumpectomy months before but did not want to talk about it and refused to let me ask her any questions.  Not a single question.  She did tell me she was on tamoxifen and then stated that she found it hard to believe that I had side effects from the tamoxifen as she didn't have any and, she stated, furthermore she had lots of friends on tamoxifen and none of them had side effects.  Huh???  Did she think I was making it up?  And what is up with asking me grueling questions and telling me I can't ask her any about her cancer?  So much for 50 years of friendship; it all came to an end with that phone call.  Am I too judgemental????

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited October 2011

    All I can say is some people are so strange! On a positive note, it seems like someone who never had seemed very close always shows up to be one of the most supportive people. Balances out those that seemed to be very close friends that back away. Some people just can't deal with it.

    Violet-Who knows what is going on with your friend, you are not too judgemental. Friendships and communication is a two way street. I know many people that have side effects from tamoxifen, hang in there!

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited October 2011

    This is my story.  I broke the news to all my friends a few days after I had surgery, when I had recovered enough to write a semi-detailed mass email.  That was I didn't have to repeat the same details over and over, plus I could tell them I was doing o.k. from the surgery.  Every one of them either emailed back or phoned except my oldest friend of 40 years.  She is like a sister, except we live in different states.  I thought she might not check the email that often, then I thought maybe she had gone on vacation.  I sent out another email when I knew I would be doing my radiation.

    I went through all my weeks of radiation feeling disappointed in her because she never did call even once.  I finally emailed and told her that I would have liked to have heard from her during my treatment and that it really disappointed me that she did not seem to care or be interested in how I was.  Well, long story short, when she finally called me, she was crying and asking if I was going to die from it?  (Not if I can help it!)  Then she said that over that summer she had a co-worker get breast cancer (advanced) and her neighbor had died from ovarian cancer.   She had been having a too much cancer freak-out.  I told her she still should have told me that in an email or call a lot sooner, but I forgave her because I love her like a sister and will have her as a friend for life.

    One year later, this friend got Dx with B/C bigger and more advanced than mine (not mets, tho') and had to do the chemo part.  I called her often (aboutt once a week) and when, months later, she finished her rads, she told me she could not have gotten thru' everything without me being there for her.  Now, I think she will probably be able to pay it forward.  She definitely knows first hand how good it feels to have support.

    People have different reactions and I totally understand your disappointment in your friend.  However, if she has been great on most other counts, I would not let this be a deal breaker over that long of a friendship.  People don't always do or say the right thing regarding B/C.  People make mistakes.  You can still point out that you expected more from her.

  • stephanie82510
    stephanie82510 Member Posts: 30
    edited October 2011

    In 2010 I had two surgeries to "get it all", an oophrectomy, the port put in, 6 rounds of TAC and 37 radiation treatments and how my family and friends, except for a rare few, interacted with me, still hurts so much I cannot write it here. 

  • Tatina123
    Tatina123 Member Posts: 480
    edited October 2011

    It just really amazes me how so called "friends and family" can show such a lack of consideration and empathy towards people who need some TLC. 

    I still haven't heard from this friend who started this thread and I don't think I will.  It still stings, but the pain of it all is getting better with time. 

    I do have to say that her behavior has really opened my eyes up to the fact of how really important it is to be there for someone who is going through medical issues. A simple card, an "i'm thinking of you e-mail," a phone call........ that's all it really takes to lift someone's spirits.

  • Quaatsi
    Quaatsi Member Posts: 385
    edited November 2011

    I have been having a disappointing time with some friends and some family lately.  I have my moments of crying and then, I look at what I do have and it gets easier.  But it isn't EASY!  I have these friends I ride with. When I was first dx they showed up, we had a good bye to boobies party and then, the surgery-- maybe a call here or there since.  Chemo began... no calls nothing.  No more asking me to ride with them and when I called one "friend" about this she replied indignantly "well, how should I know you can ride?"  -- uhhhhhh...talk to me?  So something is going on that I probably has nothing to do with me.

    I have the hardest time with these same people who make judgements that I am doing too much-- of course, without really talking to  me just hearing that I went to work or went to the gym or to the supermarket. PLEASE for goodness sake do not fight for my limitations but rather fight for me... for me to be as whole as I can in the moment.

    I think this may be a continual struggle for me-- sadness over my siblings too busy to call me but somehow, my cousins have been there.  Sadness over loss of certain friends but somehow, people who I didn't know were real friends, show up! Amazing the gifts and how deep the sadness.

    As a good friend gently showed me, it is up to me which Wolf I Feed-- the one of love and goodness or the one of evil and depression.  So I say, let' em go and focus on all the good currently in our lives. 

  • Tatina123
    Tatina123 Member Posts: 480
    edited November 2011

    Quaatsi - I completely understand what you're saying.... Focus on the good on our lives...

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