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  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited October 2011

    abatelik, I have a reconstructed breast (DIEP, which kind is yours), was told it could get smaller, haven't noticed it yet.  In fact, it might be a little swollen and a little bigger.  They have had some tough times getting me "lined up" because my arm swells and goes down from lymphedema and it affects how I lay down again.  Sorry you're having some of the same troubles.

  • marthah
    marthah Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2011

    abatellik,

    I have not had reconstructive surgery (got by with a lumpectomy), so I can't speak to your question. I'll let others here who have had recon respond. 

    It might be worth an inquiry with your PS though...just a thought.

  • llm005
    llm005 Member Posts: 25
    edited October 2011

    Hi abatellik

    I have never had reconstruction either, but I had radiation on the other breast many years ago, and it ended up somewhat smaller -- not immediately, I don't think, but over time.  I was not told that this shrinkage might happen, and in fact only recently learned that it was a recognized SE when I consulted a PS on a related issue.  I don't hear a lot of talk about this so I guess it doesn't happen to that many people.   

  • Teresa5
    Teresa5 Member Posts: 16
    edited October 2011

    I was told that this could happen by my surgeon.  I had a lumpectomy, and the margins were not clear, so I had a second surgery, that ended up taking much more tissue than originally expected. I am not happy with the results, but he suggested that I wait until after rads before making a decison on reconstruction since the breast may shrink and may become firmer.

    I have a question....does everyone have to be re-aligned once a week?  I had this done yesterday and it took 45 mins. They took x-rays, and they did have to make a slight adjustment. My hubby said the other patients in the waiting room were wondering if the machine had broken down. But, no, it was just me stuck in there with my arms and hands gone completely numb. I had to treat myself with a stop at Dairy Queen before we headed home....Smile

  • dawmson
    dawmson Member Posts: 75
    edited October 2011

    Teresa5 - Yes, I was told I will have xrays once a week to check the alignment. I hate that numb arm/hand feeling so I know what you mean. 

    Jandot - that's a TERRIBLE wait time. No excuse for that at all IMO. I've only had 4 so far and the most I waited was 15 minutes. Two of the times the therapist was waiting for me as I came out of the changing room. With 12-hour workdays you have a right to ask them to at least call you so you aren't wasting time. Sheesh. Can you tell I'm annoyed? :)  

    5kidsmom - I hope you don't get sick! My daughter's feeling a bit better and went back to school today. It's picture day and she didn't want to miss it.  

  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited October 2011
    Jandot, my radiation oncology department closes at 5! I start with my planning session next Monday and I am planning to ask for the last apppointment of the day, which I think is 4:30pm. I will have to leave work early every day for nearly 2 months, but I'd rather be fresh all day and just be able to go straight home from rads and take my bra off. Now I'm wondering what will happen if they get backed up throughout the day...  
  • 5kidsMom
    5kidsMom Member Posts: 118
    edited October 2011

    abatellik, I'd call the PS just to be sure. . . . . one of the docs I saw early on, said that at their cancer center, the PS will not touch you until you are at least 6-12 mos out of rads, because it can mess with the surgery.  Hope it resolves easily and quickly!!

    Teresa5, they do films and check alignments once every 5 treatments where I go.  Doesn't take very long though, maybe only 10 mins extra yesterday.  I've also heard that it goes more quickly as you go through.  So far that's been the case with me.  Just think if they took extra films on everyone, you'd be waiting as long as Jandot!  lol

    Was naughty this morning and wore my bra and prosthesis when I went out.  I hate feeling like I'm not the right shape!  Paying for it now. . . . . apparently the area under my arm IS swollen, and very noticable where the bra cut into me.  ugh.

  • llm005
    llm005 Member Posts: 25
    edited October 2011

    Teresa5 -- I've done 20 of 23 and they've done x-rays twice I think -- one on day 8; one on day 15 or so I think, but the foggy brain isn't sure.  It's not even sure what day it is.  Embarassed

    Jandot -- so sorry you're waiting so long and good idea as someone mentioned to call ahead.  The unit I was on for my regular rads (I'm on boosts now - different unit) tended to do the more time-consuming ones -- people coming in on gurneys, and people like me who were in the prone position which seems to take longer.  As a result, wait times were all over the place, anywhere from 1 minute to 2 hours, but generally about 10-15 minutes.    

    Edited to try to insert emoticon....

  • MostlySew
    MostlySew Member Posts: 1,418
    edited October 2011

    Teresa5,

    I've done 24 of 33 and they do x-rays 2 times a week. The first set of x-rays (about day 3) took forever. The second set were shorter but took a bit of time. Now it takes about 30 extra seconds.

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited October 2011

    Finished #10 of 28 today.  So far, so good.  Clinic gave me a mixture of aquafor cream and lidocaine yesterday.  I was not too red, but only check in with clinic on Mondays, so  I thought it was a good idea to get the cream.  It is much thicker than the lotion I have been using.  Am going to use that and see how it goes.  I am definitely getting red, but am not at all sore.

    They do an x-ray every Monday for me.  Yesterday it probably took 10 to 15 extra minutes because they didn't think it was lining up well.  Had to take my ball cap off and show my 1/4 inch hair and then also get off the table and back on again and undo the gown.  They said the gown bunching up was the culprit.  Hmmmmm...... I can't believe how sensitive the positioning is.  Today's went really quickly.  They looked surprised, but said perfect when they checked the "line up".  I think they have come to expect problems with me. 

    Hope everyone is doing well.  Have a great day!

  • marthah
    marthah Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2011

    Re: Xrays

    I get an xray every Tuesday, same as my doc day. Only took an extra 30 seconds or so. 

    Keep on keepin' on, ladies! You're doing great!

  • pam53
    pam53 Member Posts: 131
    edited October 2011

    I'm at #16 out of 34, l a  looking forward to celebrating the half-way point tommorrow.  I work--4 ten hour days.  I am scheduled for 7:45 am daily but they try and move my appointments later on Mon, Tues and Wed because of my later work schedule.  So far, they have been able to on most days and they have been on time.  Slight wait when I have later appointments but no longer than 10-15 min.  I am pink, especially around the nipple area but not red yet.  It is not painful or warm, so still hoping for the best.  I have been having some fatigue/muscle soreness in the legs but MO is attributing it to early tamoxifen side effects, not radiation.  So far, hanging in there.  Good luck to everyone else on this path!

  • abatellik
    abatellik Member Posts: 80
    edited October 2011

    Guess I am really naughty because I've been wearing my bra every day, shaving, and putting on deodorant after rads when I need it (an hour Zumba class tonight- I NEEDED it!!). But putting aloe on right after my treatments. So far just a little pinkness (#4 of 33)

  • abatellik
    abatellik Member Posts: 80
    edited October 2011

    One more question: for those of you hormone positives, are you taking Tamox already? My Onc said to but my second opinion onc (at a large university hospital) said that there is no definitive study, but since Tamox makes chemo not as effective and chemo and rads work with the same mechanism, that it is better to wait until after rads. Has anyone else heard this?

  • Marni
    Marni Member Posts: 13
    edited October 2011

    Hi there,

     Well I have my last chemo treatment on Friday 21 Oct, and due to start Radiation therapy on 14th November. I have to stay close to the hospital as I live country NSW  in Australia, but it is a nice little place called Coffs Harbour near the sea so I am hoping the warm humid air will help my hair to grow back more quickly :)

    I know nothing about the rad treatment yet but have already got my tattoos, and had my planning session, which went very smoothly. I am just hoping that this will be a pleasant change to the chemo therapy which sucked BIG time, I think I got every SE going :(

    Maybe later I should start a new list called November 2011, but until then I'll jus hang around with you guys :)ere?

    Are there any more Triple Neg BC  patients here?

  • marthah
    marthah Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2011

    Marni, welcome! Feel free to hang with us...happy to have you! There is also a Sept 2011 Rads group you can check out for more information. Also, if you navigate back to the first page of this thread, the Mods posted some links with information.

    I'm almost 6 wks PFC, and I'm still "high" about having that behind me! It was like having a bad case of the flu every 3 weeks, times 6!!! Blech! So far, it has been a very pleasant change! 

  • marthah
    marthah Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2011

    abatellik,

    I go back to my MO 12/5, after I'm completely done with rads, to start tamoxifen. There was never any discussion of doing it simultaneously with any of the other treatments. Check out cancer.gov to see what the NIH has to say about it, but that has been my recollection...it comes last, and not during other treatments. 

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited October 2011

    I go to my MO tomorrow.  I think she is going to give me the prescription for tamoxifin,  But she is pregnant.so I may not see her again until quite awhile after I finish rads,  The NP told me the reason they usually wait until after rads is side effects,  Will see what onc says tomorrow,

  • marthah
    marthah Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2011
  • Ceeztheday
    Ceeztheday Member Posts: 403
    edited October 2011

    They started me on tamoxifen August 4 and I have been taking it throughout rads (Sept/Oct). I asked both the MO and RO about doing it together. No problem they say. Who knows. It has made it difficult to know what is causing SE's, but I guess it really doesn't matter. With only 2 boosts to go, guess it's a moot point now.

  • pam53
    pam53 Member Posts: 131
    edited October 2011

    I started tamoxifen a day before radiation.  At #16 out of 34.  Had some muscle soreness/fatigue last week in my legs.  MO attributes it to tamox and said it will subside with time.  So far, no radiation fatigue.  I guess taking both at once makes it harder to figure side effects but I figure it's seven weeks down into the five year period.  My life has become one big countdown.  Anyone else feel that way?

  • Ceeztheday
    Ceeztheday Member Posts: 403
    edited October 2011

    div class='post_sig'>Dx 6/28, DCIS, discovered through nipple discharge, duct removed 7/8, lumpectomy 7/22, clean margins! Tamox 8/4, rads 9/1 (27 reg/8 boosts). Onward & Upward...

  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited October 2011

    My MO started me on Tanox right away, even before finding out that I was going to delay rads. We'll see what the RO has to say about it on Monday, but given my druthers, I'd like to stay on Tamox so that my 5-year clock keeps on ticking down. I do kinda know what you mean, Pam. I haven't had any SEs on Tamox so far, so I will happily blame any and all new symptoms on rads!

  • Robyn6463
    Robyn6463 Member Posts: 167
    edited October 2011

    CT, simulation and tattoos tomorrow! On to the next step of putting this all behind me!

  • pam53
    pam53 Member Posts: 131
    edited October 2011

    Natters,

    I remember you also delayed rads.  I got my bike trip in and it was the best thing I could have done.  I came back feeling physically, mentally and emotionally stronger and so far the rads (other than taking alot of time in my life), has not been bad.  I am half way today and realize the second half will be much tougher but I am ready to get through it.

    Best of luck to you.  When do you start?

  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited October 2011

    Pam, I am not sure when I start the zaps but I have my planning session on Monday, Oct 24. My tumor was 2 o'clock on the left so I am hoping they take their time with the planning to make sure they can avoid my heart and also the muscles around the area. I feel like my RO mostly cares about protecting my skin, which is also nice, but I am worried about longterm effects to my heart, lung and muscles.

    I wish I could say that I feel stronger physically, mentally and emotionally for the delay but really I only feel stronger physically. I have been able to rebuild my endurance since my surgery, and I am happy that I get to squeeze in on more canoe race before starting rads. But the delay has taken a toll on my relationship with my partner and put a strain on us. I started seeing a therapist this week to try and deal with everything better - I haven't even started rads but I've been crying like every day already. 

  • tarry
    tarry Member Posts: 156
    edited October 2011

    Natters, i am sorry I've just seen your reply. I have to figure all this out still.



    Our cat, Tarragon, is brown and actually counts as a snowshoe. He's a clever, affectionate cat, who does a lot of chattering to himself. I've known soMe tuxes, who seem a bit more dignified to me.

  • Natters
    Natters Member Posts: 361
    edited October 2011
    Tarry, I have a clever, affectionate tabby who does a lot of chattering to me. She's not dignified at all, but then again she's not quite one year old, so maybe she will mature inot a more dignified cat over time. Right now, she still chases her own tail and entertains us by playing with our dog. She is extremely polydactyl with 2 extra toes on each front paw and one extra toe on each back paw, for a total of 6 extra toes. That's a lot of toes on an animal that weighs less than 8 pounds. I am looking forward to a lot of cat therapy when I come home from rads in the coming months, because she likes to nap in my lap when I watch TV or fool around on my iPad in the evening.
  • tarry
    tarry Member Posts: 156
    edited October 2011

    O Natters, she's still a kitten, nearly! How lovely.

    You are just starting Rads? I start next week. I also love to have the cats near me when I'm not doing well. Unfortunately, we have a professionally annoying cat also. This cat believes that kneading makes everyone feel better. He's also quite convinced that that will make my affected breast better. I wake up at night to find him peeling covers back.

  • 5kidsMom
    5kidsMom Member Posts: 118
    edited October 2011

    Natters, I don't think it is just you feeling poorly in the mental/emotional department.  I've had a horrible time mentally, with doing rads.  Feeling much more down on a regular basis, and I've been in treatment for cancer since February!  For me, it is the fact that cancer stares me in the face every day.  When I had chemo just once every 3 weeks, I only had it in my face that one day, every three weeks.  I was tired/sick/whatever the rest of the time, but somehow it seemed farther away.  Even when I had chemo every week, it was just ONE day a week, and I felt like I could be normal the rest of the days.  Now, I have to go there EVERY day, and BE a cancer patient every day.  For me, that's really hard emotionally. 

    Yesterday I got to go on a field trip with my kids.  In some ways it was so therapeutic to be out doing "normal" things that have nothing to do with cancer.  Hope this isn't offensive to anyone here, but there were no pink ribbons in sight, and it just seemed so NORMAL!  It was hard to come back home and get ready to go to rads :(

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