August 2011 chemo, anyone w/ me?!
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My last tx won't be until December 27, so I'll be hanging around for a while too!
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Thanks so much everyone for the tips on constipation!! I'm going to try everyone!!!
I have 4 more txs and I go to Dec.6th ..I'll be one of the last ones on here..lol..
Congratulations to a bunch of you who are almost done!! What a journey this has been..
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lstreett...the differences between all of our MO's makes me nervous, too. I specifically was told today that they don't advise one while I'm in the chair receiving chemo. And, I was lurking around the 'Rads Sept 2011' group; the variations that the RO's prescribe for skin/burn issues sounds like it is a crap shoot just like the MO's. Remember that half of our group here were not told about the Claritin to be taken with the Neulasta. Just an example. I learned so much from everyone here about how to take care of myself thru chemo, and I'm a nurse, for Pete's sake! You are NOT taught this stuff unless you work in oncology. And the onc nurse's did not tell me much!
My Ambien does not help, either.
Chrys...I'm glad you are getting your GI issues checked out. You've really had a rough ride lady.
VTEllen...I think you should be able to drive yourself. It only lasts about 15 minutes/session. I was told that I would probably not have any symptoms the first 2 weeks.
DebinUtah...the tart cherry juice has a high amt of Melatonin in it. I have tried the tablet form several years ago and it did not help. I believe (for me) it is the menopause that is causing the sleep issues, not the chemo. The regular flu shot is an inactive, dead virus. But you can still get reactions from it like a low grade fever.
Summergirl...what is brown bread? I'm thinking it sounds like a whole wheat bread. Glad you don't have the constipation issues. And don't worry about being left behind; I'll still be here in December getting Taxol!
Michelle...I'm glad you asked your doc that. I'm wondering the same thing.
Grimbol...that's a wonderful TG celebration. Let the kids do the cooking or do the TG feast another time. We may do that.
Diana...I know that Herceptin is a 1 year thing. I went back and looked at the spreadsheet Michelle sent out to see others on Herceptin. They seem to have theirs with other drugs. Someone (can't remember who) said their tongue was like someone took a Brillo pad to it. Hope the Miracle Mouth works. I would follow the pharmacy instructions. 2 tsp, swish, spit. they should have given a time.
Vivie...sorry to hear you had another bad experience with the lab. Glad you at least had a space heater. 40 degrees is cold.
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My last treatment is January 20 so I'll be around as well. I had final A/C #4 last Thursday and I'll have my Taxol #1 of 12 on November 3.
Also, I got my flu shot a few weeks ago during my off week.
Theresa
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I have not gotten flu shot and probably won't, because I never do. I would think the inconsistancy between docs about it may have something to do w/ blood counts. I am anemic for the first time this round, and I don't like the feeling. I sleep strangely when my counts are low. But, I am sleeping wellish for the first time since the chemo began. Clonazepam. It works, it isn't addictive. It replaced Ativan, which seemed to hype me up rather then relax me. So, I thought Herceptin was one of the hormones that I will take for 5 yrs. Tamoxifen or Herceptin, I thought. Is the herceptin a pill? Wait, aren't they both pills? I don't have to go get an iv for 5 yrs do I? Freaking out now?!!!! Just assumed the hormones would be pills.....
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Hey, congrats Ellen, Chrys and Robyn for finishing! You guys are officially PFC! GREAT JOB! WOO HOO! Two more left for me, baby, two more.
Unfortunately, I am starting to get hot flashes at night and it's messing up my sleep. I'm not sweating, I just get really overheated and it wakes me up. So annoying. I lay in bed, half laughing and half crying at the fact that I am 32 and having hot flashes. So not cool.
RE: compression sleeve for flying. I asked my radiation onc about it and he said that it's not necessary since the cabin is pressurized.
Sorry I haven't been on too much. Taxol has been so much easier for me compared to the AC. No more feeling like I have the flu all the time! My NP said I could get a flu shot and I said I would rather not. I never get flu shots and I don't feel like starting now. I get stuck enough already, LOL.
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ellen, herceptin is used for her2 positive cancers and is infused once every three weeks for a year. tamoxifen is the drug for hormone positive cancers and it's a pill that is taken for 5 years.
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Ellen, Herceptin is only for those of us who are HER2+, it's not hormones and it is a drip. At least this is as far as my limited knowledge goes! I am hormone negative but HER2+, so I am not doing hormones at all but I will continue on with Herceptin for 12 months.
Compression sleeves for flying - I so wish they would be together on this, I hate the way they all say something different, flu shots I can make my own mind up about but flying is a different issue, I DO NOT want to risk L. I think I will ask my onc next time even though I wont be flying for a bit, but eventually I will want to fly back to England again. I would rather wear one than not even if the risk is minimal for me. Suppose for example the plane should lose pressure then you're in trouble, well yes you might be in big trouble!! but it can happen and the plane survive.
Ellen, what is Clonazepam? I am taking Ativan, it works ok, but I am a bit concerend about addiction to it.
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Grimbol - I think that the honest truth is that they really have no idea why LE happens to some people and not to others. So they throw a whole bunch of stuff our there about precautions, which is a good thing, but they just really don't know. I read a study a little while ago that said now they don't think LE has to do with the number of nodes removed, but rather how many "pathways" were with those nodes. And that is completely individual. Some people just might have more pathways for the lymph to pass, so losing a few nodes isn't a big deal. But someone who has less pathways, even if a few nodes were removed, are at a much greater risk.
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vtEllen...You will be receiving 5 years (or more) of Tamoxifen or any of the aromatase inhibitors i.e. Femara, Arimidex. These are oral pills. I think that since you are HER2-, you won't get Herceptin, BUT, don't quote me. Everyone is different. Glad you are sleeping well. It makes a big difference, doesn't it? I will ask about Clonazepam.
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Grimbol- my fiance's bro is a psyc at large medical facility in Minn
He is the one who said right off, ask for clonazepam. It is a sedative/ anti anxiety drug. I sleep, I don't feel dopey next day.Ha! I am probably going to become a lifer on the stuff. My onco prescribed xanax and ativan. I had to tell them that I wanted this stuff. It works for me.
Hmnn- Well, there is one hormone if you are still having your period and one if you are not. I'll have to go through my notes.
Kasi- yep, it stinks that you are going through the hot flashes. At least you have a good attitude! Keep it up!
Yesterday's last blood draw/ post chemo appt was actually fun. My check in nurse was all sorts of thrilled w/ my WAY lower blood pressure, my onco was jiving around w/ the scale as I was weighing in, head chemo NP was relaxed and chatty! I drove home blasting the radio, singing at the top of my lungs, tears streaming down my cheeks!! It feels really good to be done w/ chemo. Just you guys hang in there and see!!~
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Ellen, the Tamoxifen is for premenopausal, the AI's are for post. I am scheduled to start Tamoxifen and then switch over. I've been told the chemo will make me menopausal. I'm 54. Some new research is showing that they should be given 10 years. There is a thread on these boards somewhere concerning this info: Oncologists Saying 10 Years on Adjuvant Therapy Now! is what the thread is called. So glad you had a wonderful send off from your chemo!
Kasi...that makes sense about the amount of nodes' pathways. LE scares me, just all the BS you have to deal with.
Robo47..The hot flashes are awful, aren't they? I have found that my 3 cups of coffee are making them worse. I've cut back to 2. Glad the sleep aid is helping. As for constipation, I have to really stay on top of it or it really gets bad. I will read the BC article later. thanksfor the heads up. And tell me about the weight gain. My MO told me that many women gain weight with BC chemo. I actually started the Marie Osmand Favorites, weekends off Nurtasystem. I've only managed to lose 5 pounds but I haven't gained. When I head into tamoxifen, weight gain is a big siede effect.
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Diana--I'm HER2 positive too, so although my other chemo ends Nov. 18 (TG!!!!), I'll be having Herceptin until next August. I think YaYa5 is with us too. Although I've been grateful for my port on infusion days (I hate it with a passion every other day), I'm seriously thinking of having it removed next spring. I'd love to go into summer without this hideous bulg in my chest. They told me it would "lie down" within a month or two--NOT! One more reason to hate looking in the mirror.
Ellen--so good to know about the clonazapam! My Ativan has totally stopped working for me; I'd like to get off it anyway.
Anyone know what the other SEs of tamoxifen are? So far I've heard about weight gain (sh*t!), hot flashes, insomnia and forgetfulness. Anything else we have to look forward to?
Another question: for several days mid-cycle (days 11-14), I feel like I've swallowed a giant pill and it hasn't gone all the way down. You know that feeling? Is this a form of heartburn/acid reflux? I'm taking my Prilosec every night, and it has totally helped with the burning in my throat, but this is different.
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Just home from DD Taxol #2. Had a mild reaction to it which is odd because the first infusion went really well. They had finished the pre-meds and the nurse had just started the Taxol IV. I got up and went to the washroom and felt fine. When I got back to the chair, I started to cough..probably because I wasn't breathing properly. The nurse heard me cough and came over to see if I was okay. I hadn't even had a chance to answer her when I felt the heat rising from my chest all the way up to the top of my head. It was so weird! The nurse saw that I was red as a beet and immedidiately stopped the IV. I felt fine again wthin a couple of minutes.
So...they paged the ONC who said to give me some more steroids. Then they started the IV again very slowly and I was fine. It just made a long day even longer. I arrived at the lab at 8 a.m. and just got home about 4 p.m.
When I see the ONC on the 31st before my next tx, I guess she'll tell me the plan for next time. The nurse said that since it was a mild reaction they would likely just give me the extra pre-med and drip the IV slowly and monitor me closely for a reaction. Hopefully that will work and I can get through the last two tx.
I'll have to ask about the compression sleeve. I do fly occasionally for work so I don't want to run into any issues.
No Taxomifen or Herceptin for me as I'm a triple negative gal!
I seem to only have hot flashes in the morning and then they go away. Very strange.
Have a great evening everyone!
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Hi all, i have taxol #3 tomorrow..
just wanted to share this link for anyone losing eyebrows / lashes:
http://eyelineher.blogspot.com/2011/01/eyebrow-you-brow-part-two-with-photos.html
she does an amazing job.. i'm starting to lose my brows & hope i can draw them in as realistically as she does
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I had my 3rd taxol yesterday. Only 1 left. Thank god because I think the taxol is just as bad as the A/C!!! I haven't had my flu shot yet
So all of you that have had A/C first then taxol, have you found that your thinking about sex more? When I was on the A/C I didn't want to do anything. But since I've been on the taxol, I have thought about it. I know TMI. but it is really wierd.
I take ativan and occasionally ambien 5 mg. This helps with sleep. Usually I have prob with sleep the second week. My hemoglobin has come up to 8.8. Yay. It was 8.3. My NP that saw me yesterday said when she looked at my labs, your still very anemic. I told her it was better than 8.3!!
Hopefully, everyone who has had treatments are good this week.
Love and hugs
Jennifer -
Oh Boy am I mad tonight, (MEN) can be so insensitive , My husbands friend who we were friends with when we lived in the states 4 yrs ago, sent him a text msg tonight telling him he was going to HOOTERS a place they would go to on occasion , shortly after he sent him another one when I asked what he said my hubbie said it was a picture message and as my husband does not have a camera phone he asked his friend to send it to mine, so guess what I got it (a picture of a barmaid flashy her giant assetts ) and I guess I am supposed to think this is funny when I have just lost mine and am bald and feeling very insecure about myself arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh. (sorry just had to vent) and my husband does not understand why I would be upset . I will never understand them at all. ( of rant over)
MaryJRN : I was told that tamoxifen does not cause weight gain unless you change your eating habits and eat more than you would normally, I have actually lost 8lbs since chemo began and I cant afford to I am already underweight hoping I wont lose any more. or I will become invisible.
Heading off tommrrow for TX 4 on thursday, I am feeling anxious about this one and in general feeling down this last week I hope I am not getting depressed had bad depression in the past and dont want to go there again. .
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Cupcakies, when did your eyelashes fall out with Taxol? I had my first tx two weeks ago and still have mine. Just wondering when/if it will happen.
Oh Carol, you're right, men just don't think sometimes. Maybe we should chop off their body parts (a la Lorena Bobbit) and see how that feels! LOL Oh...and I'm usually such a non-violent person!!!
I have managed to maintain my weight through 5 tx. Only about 2 pounds heavier than before. I think the Well Fit program I'm attending is helping a lot. -
michelleo13 - mine are falling out every day (post Taxol #2).. every time i shower or wash my face, i lose eyebrow hairs & eyelashes. There are still some there, but they're sparse.. I'm going to practice drawing them in over the weekend.
I'm also having major hot flashes. I wake up at least 4/5 times every night to throw the blanket off!
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cupcakies, the website you posted is really excellent. that pretty girl also shows how to tie a scarf without tying a knot. i tie my scarves like she teaches and it's really easy and cute, too. here's the website again:
http://eyelineher.blogspot.com/2011/01/eyebrow-you-brow-part-two-with-photos.html
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Hi everyone!
Congrats Ellen! So excited for you that you are done.
I am halfway there with first Taxol tomorrow so I will be with y'all until November 30th. Not looking foward to tomorrow, but then again, I am never looking forward to infusion day. *sigh* When I asked my MO how long the infustion was she said only about 2 hours. But some of you are there much longer, right?
Regarding lymphadema...I don't have it and I don't want it! My PT said it could happen at any point in time. I don't fly that much but I am definitely going to be wearing compression garments when I do.
Summergirl - I am so sorry that happened. Men can be so stupid sometimes.
Best of luck to everyone getting TX this week. I am really hoping Taxol is kinder to me than AC as I do not want to spend all weekend in bed again.
Hugs to everyone!
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Wow! I took a couple of days off from the board to recover from that last treatment and it'll take me forever to read all these posts! You guys have been busy!
I had my flu shot at my 2nd to last treatment. No problems at all. I'm glad I had it!
When it's time to fly, I'll ask for a compression sleeve. My GP was recommending one for the cyst on my elbow BEFORE all this happened! Still no problems at all with that arm though (that I didn't have before)! I feel lucky!
RE: Tamoxifen vs. Femara. Mary's correct. The Tamoxifen is if you are premenopausal, Femara for post. My original plan was 2 years of Tamo, then 5 Femara (I think, it might have been 5 +2), until we decided to remove my ovaries as well. Now I've got a prescription for Femara which I'll take for 5 years.
I've gained about 4 pounds through treatment. My weight is stressing me, I've got about40 lbs I'd like to lose.
Recovery this time is taking a bit! Sore toes this morning! Funny taste in my mouth! I only got out of bed long enough to shower yesterday! But this is it! I don't have to fear worse effects from the next one, because THERE IS NO NEXT ONE!
Radiation mapping, CT, simulation, tattoos...tomorrow. Oh what fun! I'll be so glad when this is all over!
And yes, once again, men can be jerks! Thoughtless! Idiots!
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Congrats for finishing Robyn. Sorry about your toes, my feet have bothered me much more this time, but I have 2 more to go,
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Thanks all for the tips on Miracle Mouthwash. I've been swishing and spitting, but the onco yesterday said to swallow if the back of my throat started to hurt. Hopefully is hasn't yet. The antihistamines in the mix make me really jumpy, but it's nice to give my tongue/mouth a break from the roughness otherwise. The example of a brillo pad is spot-on.
YaYa5 and cupcakies: that website is a good one! She's so enthusiastic about her scarves and buffs! The buffs are expensive but I love the idea of soft wool; it's going to be a long, cold, bald winter in central New York! I think I'll get one.
Healing energy going out to everyone today for some mild (or absent!) side effects...
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Ok Robyn- I'm also headed to Rad guy tomorrow. Just a set up talk. So, do your blood counts not go down around now? Just wondering because tattoos would be iffy for me right now. I am def feeling more fatigue this time. I am out of bed, but not amounting to much.
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Oh Ellen, I am absolutely wiped. Out of bed and working today, but that's mostly because I'll run out of sick time after tomorrow's appointments, not because I really feel up to it. Not accomplish much despite the suffering! I'm whiny today, feeling sorry for myself. My blood counts do drop pretty significantly. They're at their worst late this week, over the weekend, and into the early part of next week. Hasn't stopped anything. Just scheduled port removal for 11/1. Can't wait to get rid of this thing. It's all bruised again, they stuck it Thus, Fri, and twice on Monday. Hubbie came home sick Monday night, but he's still in the doghouse, sleeping on the couch, so I'm avoiding him. He's dying to make up at this point, but I'm being stubborn. Probably because he's sick!
DD31 and I met with the geneticist on Monday. I felt terrible at the time, and didn't feel like the appointment was all that helpful. Waiting now to see if ins will pay for BRCA testing, but even results won't change my plans any, maybe just my sister and my daughters.
Picking out the new puppy on Friday! He's 3 weeks old, so he won't come home for a few more weeks, but I can pick him out and name him! Very exciting! I think his name is going to be Jasper...Jazz. That's my way of making myself feel better. And punishing husband at the same time:-) (We'll really be okay, we've been through so much together. I'm really disappointed in him this time, but I think it sounds much worse than it is).
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Yay Robyn!
Ellen -- The tats are so teeny, weeny tiny for Rads...Like really small, you can barely see mine. They put a tiny drop of ink on your skin and then take a needle-like thingy and just barely scratch your skin.
Saw the Gastro doc yesterday --I'll be having an endoscopy on Oct. 31st to check my throat and tummy out. It's going to be a crazy day that day -- the procedure is at 8am and I have my 2nd radiation mapping at 1pm in the same bldg. Ugh... I just pray that my throat and tummy issues are from the A/C...I really do. They want to see if the Adriamyacin caused like a burn in my GI and throat. My right ankle has been mildly swelling/puffy, so I don't know if that is something to worry about. I just left a msg for the nurse at the Onc's office.
Seems like I can't catch a break.
My fingernails are still dark and I still have the occassional rash and hive. I broke out in front of my mom yesterday, so at least I don't feel like I'm crazy for saying this is all still happening 3 weeks later! LOL
I'm going back to counseling -- I had been doing around the time before my surgeries had been to sick to continue during chemo, but I'm going back soon. Everything with this BC is just too much at times. Does anyone else feel the same way? I near had a breakdown yesterday. My body just does NOT feel normal yet.
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Hi Everyone..havent read any posts yet just need some HELP!!!
My tongue is white and looks all bitten on the sides and my throat feels like theres a lump on the side making it really hard to swallow..What is this??? What should I take???ughhhhhh
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I have read that people are using Miracle Mouthwash, I don't know if you need a script for that though. Try calling your onc's office
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Also, post your question on the thread for Taxotere.Carboplatin/Hercpetin, there's a lot of good advice around on that one. People who have gone thru all of this and come out the other side.
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