Is There A September 2011 Chemo Group?
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Finished off AC dose dense # 3 Friday. Feeling okay so far. The drugs work pretty good for me, but the exhaustion will set in today-Wednesday for me. 1 more to go and then its on to 12 weekly Taxol. Cant believe I have to do so much. Still tempted to go with dose dense taxol x4 but with my Her2+/lymph node status, don't think I should stop short now.
Pinkshirtnow... how are your side effects on the weekly taxol? Any neuropathy yet? Do you get the nuelasta shot after each tx? I get it now after after the AC, but my MO stated I would not when I do the weekly taxol. How is your hair? Sounds like some women have their start coming back on the weekly. Nails? Are you working through it? I am currently on leave, but another 12 weeks on top of my 8 weeks of AC and 4 weeks for surgery is a long time. Any info/tips you would be willing to share would be great. Thanks!
Scpmadi...I say book that trip or some other. I have also been looking into disney world. I would like to do May. Hoping I have some hair by then. I feel like I need something for my family to look forward to. Hoping I can afford it after all these medical co pays, but kinda feeling selfish right now and just need something fun to think of. Hoping I don't get lymph edema on the plane ride out there.
Rae Bob..hang in there girl. I hear you. The side effects suck. So far the taste buds and the chemo brain are pretty bad for me. Unfortunately the taste bud deal has not stopped me from eating. I want to eat all the time. I did buy a mouth wash on line called Oramajic. I think its helping. As for chemo brain. Lost my car keys at the mall. Left them in a store. Had to take a cab home. Finally tracked them down two days later in one of the stores. Ugh.
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hi all, i wonder if the taxol causes the lack of taste, i am on a/c right now and still have my tastebuds, just not much of an appetite!
nausea and vomiting have been less this go round, i think adding emend to the premeds helped!
rae,you haven't offended anyone,if you get steroids in your premeds or take them by mouth maybe your mo can tweak them. altho maybe it is all just part of the emotional rollercoaster we are on!
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khegidio,good luck on your appt.tues.
pinkshirt,hope you do well on your treatment, no se!
mags,you never know,this might be an opportunity to start your own business,i say go for it!
sarah, my daughter jess&her family are going to disney nov 7th,then thanksgiving week my son joe & his family are going! i wish i was going,too.
i have chemo brain,too,i've had to correct so many mistakes just writing this little bit. if there are any more,sorry,my brain is tired. also i sleep about 4 hrs at nite and then can't go back to sleep,anybody else?
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I think the Emend has been key to my feeling okay. They give it to me the day of my AC and then I take it for the next two days following chemo. I feel really good those two days following chemo. Once the emend stops I slow down alot but still no nausea.
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belle, It is the Taxanes. Taxotere and Taxol are the culprits when it comes to our poor mouths. The only good thing I can say is I've been losing a bit of weight. I put on 10 pounds in the last 2 years from age/peri-menopause, etc, so although I can't taste... my body is looking a little more fit ;-). I do try to walk or bike each day since they say that helps combat the fatigue. I believe it to be true.
If any of you are interested... I found this website that tells what each of our treatments in a nutshell. I liked it because I kept saying, "Why am I getting T/C and others are TAC and some are AC then T or even CMF. The brief treatment information also links to why a few don't lose their hair or maybe it just thins.
http://www.healthcentral.com/breast-cancer/chemo-regimen.html?ap=2004
Enjoy, Happy Monday and here is to an SE free day!
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And one more thing... Why the heck is it that I can't taste anything, but my sense of smell is the highest it's been in my life!
I always thought our taste and smell were connected. My kids know not to breath near me in the morning since even the slightest of morning breath can take me down. The other day I was talking to a lady and I said, "Do you smell that? Something is awful around here." It took me a few moments to realize that as she spoke a little closer to me it was HER! I'm sure her breath probably wasn't anywhere as bad as I was perceiving, but boy did I have to keep a straight face knowing that it was her I asked and her I smelt ;-).
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Ok so today I am feeling the chemicals finally losing their hold. Claws have retracted pupils have resumed normal size.
Pinkshirt & Belle: yes I get steroids and I am glad to hear they can make one a little "off" so i am not crazy to feel this way. This was the first time they didn't weigh me and I have lost quite a bit so I am wondering if they gave me the dosage for my old weight and it was too much.
Ccjj I am going to ask about the amend.
Mags: great business idea!
Belle: I am not sleeping well at all so I feel your pain there.
Rockym: funny story but I have the same problem with smells -
ccjj - My SE on taxol have been relatively mild. I don't get the shots and I have very mild neuropathy. Mostly my hands just feel a little numb. I just feel a little bit less coordinated and I have trouble opening jars. My eyes also twitch which is very annoying. My hair is weird - it was falling out like an avalance about 2-3 weeks out and then it stopped. I am left with just the gray hair on my fuzzy head. I think the sparse gray hairs are actually getting a bit longer but I don't see any regrowth of the other hair. I still have leg hair etc but it is much thinner. I still have eyelashes and most of my eyebrows although both are thinner. My nails haven't really changed but I have always had soft nails.
My best tip about the weekly taxol is that you just get into a routine. My SEs have been relatively mild - nose bleeds, a little dizziness and nausea. I am starting to get hit by fatigue in the last round but I am managing. So far, I just expect a few days of feeling kinda crummy followed by 2-3 days of feeling better and then I start over. I take my nausea medicine like clockwork whether I am nauseous or not. That seems to work for me. Hope this helps!
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My taste buds are slowly returning. Day 11 and things are starting to taste closer to normal. That's good news because I seem to eat even more when things taste crappy. Guess I'm trying to find something that'll satisfy me, so I just keep shoveling lol. My hands and feet are tingly, but the fingertips and soles of my feet actually hurt. I've been doing a lot of work on the computer the last couple of days, so the fingertips seem almost like they're irritated. As for my feet, well I'm wearing boots since I'm vertically challenged and if I don't my pants will be dragging in the dirt. I'm sure it'd feel better if I could wear slippers to work, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
My hair is still in the patchy monster head stage. I really wish it would all just fall out already. I get depressed everytime I pass by a mirror. I don't care for the way I look in my scarves either, so that's no help. I better improve my attitude somehow, or I'll end up smashing all my mirrors sometime in the next 6 months.
Other than all of that whiny-ness I'm feeling alright. A little tired and weak, but the leg pains and headaches and fogginess have all stopped. I still can't sleep worth a damn tho. Took a sleeping pill last night, then laid in bed for 3 hours staring at the ceiling before I finally fell asleep. Went in to work this morning and one of the guys asked me how I was feeling. I said pretty good, just a little tired...to which he replied...Pffft! You're tired?!?
I almost went over the counter at him...a sudden burst of energy lol. He's 24, works 8 hours a day at a desk job, and then goes home and plays video games. But the poor kid is tired...seriously, I could've punched him. Sigh.
Belle - You know what's best for you...just make sure you're not settling. Never settle for less than what you deserve...and you deserve the best.
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Rocky - I wondered the same thing about the smell/taste thing.
Rae - I don't think they change your chemo dosage unless your body weight changes by 10%. If you have lost that much (sounds like you might have), maybe you should speak to them about it. Of course Rocky is the exception here. I think she said they increased hers. I sure never heard of that because I thought they gave you the maximum dose and then backed off on it a little if you got too sick.
Maggie - I like the tip of tying the scarf with a scrunchie in the back. I have a fair amount of leftover scrap fabric from a quilt making project. I have to dig through that bin.
Belle - Hmmn, those teeth sound downright dangerous to YOUR health, never mind his. I see your point totally.
I bet everyone has already figured out there last chemo date besides me. I just charted the calendar today to see if I would be sick on Thanksgiving. I then realized my LAST chemo will be the week before, so my tastebuds should be back. White cell count will probably also be at its nadir, which is not so good but still a lot to be thankful for this year come Thanksgiving. I hear the Mormon Tabernacle Choir in the background already. Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah.
Or maybe just a flash mob, see below.
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rockym,went to the site had to type it in, it's a good one,thank you.
i wish i could say my guy friend's breath was due to my enhanced sense of smell but sadly no, it was way before my diagnosis. at first i thought it was me, then i figured out it was him. it took a lot of courage and time to say something,i brought it up gradually saying i was going to dentist for cleaning, which i did. several discusions about his not liking dentists etc, asking if he had scheduled an appt, trying to give him a hint he has to go etc. finally i just had enough,said it outright either go or it is over. guess i will find out tonight if he has made an appt.
my last chemo is dec 22nd! gonna be a long 2 months!
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Shawna- The patchy stage was the worst. My husband finally got sick of my mood and sat me down in a chair and took his clippers to my head. It really felt liberating to have it all off. I felt way less gross and after a few days was able to embrace the new look and go hatless in my house. Whether you choose to clip it or let if fall out on its own it will get better. Hang in there.
Kimberly- Glad to hear you will be able to truly enjoy Thanksgiving this year. My celebration will be New Years Last Chemo will be Dec. 29th! Do something fabulous to celebrate the end you deserve it!
CCJJ- Emend was my lifesaver as well. I was able to have no vomitting post #2 with the addition of Emend. I did have extreme fatigue starting day 3 and lasting 3 days.
I have been experiencing sharp shooting pain in the armpit of my surgical breast. I had a lumpectomy with 11 nodes removed. I understand that this could be nerve pain or lymphdemia. Today the pain seemed persistent in one spot just above the senile node scar. It is hard to not imagine the worst happening in there. The Onc. checks my breasts at each appointment and she told me at last appointment that what I was feeling in the breast was scar tissue. I wonder if I will ever be able to feel a pain an not go into panic mode.
I also have had a nasty cough which I contribute to a cold I contracted from my little son (JK results in lots of germs) after my first treatment in Sept. It seems just as it starts to clear up it comes back. Is anyone experiencing a cough as a SE of treatment. I have had the cough a varying levels of intensity for over a month. It is really starting to send me insane.
The hot flashes seemed to of subsided this week. Last week they were intense it should have been my cycle week. Hopefully not a permanent side effect. Not that I miss the period but I am not sure I am ready for the post menopause side effects either.
Had a long conversation with my husband about potentially booking that Disney trip. I think we are going to go for it. I love the idea of something to look forward too. Plus my kids deserve the trip after what is going to be a very long winter.
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Belle - I am still looking at 5 years of Arimidex SE after chemo, which I guess can be pretty bad bone pain, fatigue, dry everything, a little cognitive dysfunction, and so on and so forth. So the party is not over for me by a long shot, but I still can't wait for that last chemo to be over.
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Hi everyone...been either running or having pity party last several days. Reeaaalllly sorry to hear about all the struggles with SE's getting worse. Go for my second tomorrow and am totally dreading it. Already can't taste anything, have no hair, have to drink nasty mouth and intestine treatment daily and hurt in all my joints...just don't want to deal with any more.
Am glad to hear thought that some are not having bad SE's the second or third time around.
Shawna: great restraint!! Would totally have wanted to do the same.
Kimberly: Flash mob sounds like a fun way to celebrate
Belle: Tough spot and hard when they just don't get it.
My last Chemo is January 10th...bummed that the holidays will all be affected this year. Wish I could start the new year done with all this, but I'll find something to celebrate in the new year. Sorry...being a downer, just really dreading this super long road.
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lee ann, so sorry you are felling so bad, i try not to think about the long road ahead 6 more chemos,6 and 1/2 wks of radiation, let alone if i test pos for brca. are u taking the test , my dr is ordering it because of the triple neg?
ok, what was my point,oh yeah, i try to focus on just getting thru each step or treatment cycle.i know it's hard when you feel so discouraged, hang in there, we can do this!!
kimberly, i really hope you don't have all of those terrible side effects. i remember when i was told i had bc, i told the surgeon's np i would not take the hormonal med she was horrified, i said well u said i have the best bc to have only 5%recurrance based on biopsy!that means it'll reduce my rate to 2 1/2 % not worth it to me. should have kept my mouth shut, cause the path from lumpectomy changed everything triple neg, don't have that option, wish i did now! i suffer from insert foot into mouth syndrome is my excuse! lol
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lee ann, praying your se are a lot less this time. i dreaded my 2nd,too. but my side effects were less, less vomiting and nausea. be sure to tell your mo about your se, there is no reason to suffer so, hopefully the mo can help!
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Hey- I'm on the DD 4xAC and I have no taste buds for 1/2 the time. I SO wanted to taste something so I actually drank olive juice. I could actually taste it and was so excited. Probably not the best idea with all my stomach issues but so worth it. The SE's this time did not seem to be so bad but today I have a bit of a headache and my vision is slightly off. Hope that goes away tonight. I'm going to have hubby shave off the monster hairs as they just will not fall off. Take care!!!
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Pinkshirtnow... thank you for the info on weekly taxol SE. The neuropathy issue is kinda scary to me, but so it goes.
Interesting on the hair situation. I am also at that patchy stage. It doesn't really seem to be falling out much anymore. Its cut super short so not really bothering me, but I thought it would all go on its own. Now I'm curious to see what happens to it. Weird. Still only comfortable in wigs and hats in public. The patchy look with acne on my scalp is not helping the self confidence much these days. Although that seems to be clearing up.
SCPMadi... so glad your booking your trip. I think I am booking this week. Its just so expensive that I am having problems pulling the trigger, but I know I will. It really will be nice to have it to look forward to. Kids will love it.
So happy for all of you that will be done by the holidays! I would love that. End of Jan for me. We will all be done soon and hopefully able to give support to those on the "starting chemo in Dec" board.
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sheypres, i'm on dd a/c too, it's interesting how it effects people differently. i just hope i haven't spoken too soon.
well, i was hoping this go round i would forego the side effect of that raw stomach feeling,not! tried milk of mag,tums doesn't help, i was so happy i have had only 1 episode of vomiting not anymore now it's 2,back to the antinausea meds,crap. i hate that you can feel good and the next thing you know, you feel terrible!
hope everyone has a good day tomorrow!
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RJ - Are you in the emergency room from too much chili? What up sister?
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Kimberly: LOL! No not yet anyways. Just got off from work at the store. Been busy this weekend with the grandson. I enjoyed him so much! I know next weekend will be my down time. Not looking forward to chemo on Thursday but I know I will be halfway home after Thursday.
I feel so bad for those of you who are really sick and throwing up and stuff. I haven't had any of that, knock on wood! I feel that I have been so blessed by just the few side effects I've had. I think the worst were the mouth sores and my hands. They are finally looking better. They are not well yet, but at least I don't look like a snake shedding it's skin! LOL! Other than being extremely tired after the last chemo and no appetite after both chemos (food just doesn't taste right), I think I'm doing pretty good.
Dalton's 5th birthday party is Sunday, my worst down day! Don't know how I'm going to do with that, but I will do what I can do. His actual birthday is Monday. Can't believe my baby is growing up so fast. And my little Zoey will be 2 in April. Where has the time gone? One think I do like is being a grandma! I get to spoil them and spend time with them and then send them back to their momma.
Other than that, I've just been busy trying to tie up loose ends at the other job so everything will be done and handled until I get back. There's no school here Friday so I am taking the whole day off from work. I don't have to worry about being back to drive the bus. Yippee!! I will have a long, SE free (pretty please) weekend!
Wishing each and everyone a wonderful day tomorrow. You're all in my thoughts.
HUGS!
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Zit on the nose. Zit in the armpit. 3 zits on the undewear line. Zits on the scalp. Zits on the back. Good lord please I am 50 years old. This is not right. I shouldn't have to slather Clearasil at my age. I find it ridiculous.
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rj, i miss my grandbabies,before all this i watched them 3 to 4 days a week. i really enjoyed it. i was supposed to start watching the new baby 1 day a wk in sept.
with this dang bc and chemo, i hardly get to see them,right now a respiratory thing is going around and 3 of my children's families have it. as soon as they get well i'm going to spend some good, quality and quanity time with them. i'll tell their momma's bring me my babies and go shopping! can't wait !
shoot, now i'm crying again ,i miss them so much!
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My total lack of ability to kick this head cold is driving me nuts. I woke up this morning feeling yet again fully congested and coughing like crazy. I am stocking up on Vit. C and rest for the next couple days and hoping be gone by round 3.
Kimberly-I too have started to develop little red pimples on my head. I am assumeing it is from the hat friction. I started washing my bald head with Head and Shoulders it seems to have helped a bit. Selson Blue also has some anti acne ingredients in it.
At least the sun is shining and it is a absoulty beautiful, perfect fall day today. Got stop to enjoy the little things!
Take Care
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sarah, better check with your dr about taking vit c supplements, i think i read somewhere on this site it interferes with chemo, can't remember where!
finally, a good nite's sleep, i took a compazine with my sleeping pill.slept 8 hrs only woke 2 to go to bathroom,went right back to sleep. yeeeeaaah!
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Hi everyone -- I know I haven't been posting very much lately, but I am still reading along.
My third TC treatment was supposed to be today, but my MO postponed it a week due to all the problems I had from the second. Plus he's going to reduce the dosage of both drugs by 20%. He just kept shaking his head, saying "You are having all the rarest side effects for these drugs!" To which ... what am I supposed to say? "Sorry for being so special?" Believe me, I never wanted them. Plus he put me on another antibiotic for the nasty-smelling/tasting sinus problem I developed this time (I told him the drugs were affecting my sinuses the first time, and he just chuckled and pretty much said that was impossible).
Okay, will stop ranting now.
Anyway. I'm just glad for the reduction -- I think it will really help.
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Good Morning All!!
Thank you for all your posts. I totally enjoy reading all of them!
I am on day 8 after round 2 and finally feel a little better. I pretty much am in bed most of the time with no appetite or taste buds either! I have no energy.....I hate it! I am hoping I am on the upside of SE and can function somewhat until round 3 which is Halloween day! I think I am getting used to hair situation, then again I barely leave the house! I can't remember but is anyone else doing TAC all at same time?
I also have read about the vitamin c and not taking during chemo, something about the anti-oxidant effects. Not sure of amounts but I am sure it is on web somewhere.
♥ Sara ♥
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hi bluejay, so sorry you have had a rough time, vent away,rant away. we don't mind,all of us do it sometimes this is the only place we really can. i hate it when drs dismiss our concerns,we know our bodies not them.
i hope the antibiotics help and the reduction does too!
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sarawise,happy you are feeling better.
lee ann-iwarstler is on tac also,she has had a rough go,too!
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Thank you, belleeast! I have felt before that my MO didn't really want to hear about SEs that were not among the most common, and it was terribly frustrating. So finally I took a little green notebook that the Audubon Society had sent me for a donation (*g*) and started writing down the side effects as they occurred. I should have been doing this from the beginning, but it's never too late to start. It gave me a base and helped to remind me of problems to report. A simple thing, but it made a difference.
*hugs* and
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