August 2011 chemo, anyone w/ me?!

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  • michelleo13
    michelleo13 Member Posts: 342
    edited October 2011

    Istreet, I also have insomnia. I'm not a good sleeper at the best of times, but 5 hours is a good night for me right now!

  • vtellen
    vtellen Member Posts: 345
    edited October 2011

    Istreet- I am having good results w/ Clonazepam .5mg. I have taken anywhere from 1/2 to 2 depending on my need. Also, advil helps w/ sleeping, but I take it mainly for the bone pains. I also recommend a warm bath right before bed! Still, I wake up a few times a night and am sleeping in (8:00am) for the first time in years. And, ha! I agree w/ Michelle! 5 hrs is pretty good for me these days. I mostly let my body do its thing. If I am up w/ a book or on the computer at 2:00am, so be it.

  • Taylor777
    Taylor777 Member Posts: 141
    edited October 2011

    Hi Everyone...Just had my 4th tx last tues and I've been having really bad constipation. My dr. prescribed me lactolose which I take at night and its not working!! I can't eat any fruit bec. of the indigestion and acid reflux!! Any ideas??

  • missey29
    missey29 Member Posts: 48
    edited October 2011

    Congratulations Taylor for making it through your 4th and hopefully your last treatment. sorry about your tummy troubles. Have you tried eating walnuts or any yogurt? That seems to do the trick for me. Hope that is helpful.Wink

    Take care

    Missey 

  • 46MD
    46MD Member Posts: 25
    edited October 2011

    Taylor777, when I was having severe constipation (and nothing was working) I was told to buy "magnesium citrate" which sells everywhere (I found it in my local supermarket even). It comes in a glass bottle, and is in the area of all the other digestion meds. It doesn't cost more than 2 bucks, and apparently its the stuff they give you before a colonoscopy. That was my 'last resort' before I was to call the doctor back. It worked, but its like a freight train. But when you need something, it works. Try that.

  • vtellen
    vtellen Member Posts: 345
    edited October 2011

    Taylor- Milk of Magnesia. You will have to be careful not to over do it, but it WILL work. I know just how you feel, it is miserable and gets worse. My intestines really take a hit w/ this stuff!

  • sandy115
    sandy115 Member Posts: 172
    edited October 2011

    Hi everyone hope all S/E are minimal for you went to see the oncol thurs got blood work done evrerything is fine for Taxatore treatment # 5 tommorow not looking foward to it after last one ended up in bed for 2 weeks.I ask the oncol about the sleve for flying incase lyphemadema sets it he just shruged it off and actually laughed and said you only had sental node no need for a sleeve.He said he would reduce the taxatore a little tommorow bur severe bone pain is a S/E and pretty much you have to deal with it.I dont like my Oncol period.

  • Robyn6463
    Robyn6463 Member Posts: 167
    edited October 2011

    Sandy - I had 5 nodes removed, and haven't had any problems with lymphedema. My surgeon  allowed them to use that arm for an IV when they did the surgery to put my port in. She doesn't believe I'll ever have a problem with it. I really worried about it, because I've had edema in my legs from high blood pressure, I've got an elecranon bursa on my right elbow, I've had carpal tunnel in both hands, and arthritis from an old case of cellulitis in that elbow. Despite it all, I've had no swelling at all from the lymph node removal. I am still surprised!

    I'm so glad to be done with my taxotere! Four treatments was enough. I'm just beginning to feel the bone pain from this last treatment, mostly just heartburn so far. And tired. Almost fell over in the grocery store this morning! Can't wait to get over this last round of S/E's and never have to deal with this again! 

  • michelleo13
    michelleo13 Member Posts: 342
    edited October 2011

    Sandy I had 8 nodes removed and my ONC let them use that arm for chemo since the lab took blood on the other side on the morning of one of my tx so they couldn't use it. There seems to be so much conflicting information about lymphedema.

    Taylor, I've been taking Senokot and eating All Bran and it seems to work so far. I start the Senokot on the day of my infusion before the problems start!

    My ONC is leaving on maternity leave before my last infusion. She's having twins!  I'll see her one more time and then I'll see someone else...not sure who yet.

  • vtellen
    vtellen Member Posts: 345
    edited October 2011

    Robyn- I am also having horrible heartburn! Started yesterday, and has been hitting me most of today. Not fun.

  • jbagley
    jbagley Member Posts: 102
    edited October 2011

    Taylor--I have found eating 3-4 prunes at night really helps and I had some pretty bad constipation with 2 hemorrhoids



    I have #3 taxol tomorrow then only one left. Last tx is on Halloween! I have found that taxol is harder for me to recover then the A/C. Takes about 10-12 days before I have more energy. I have my genetics appt tues. Hopefully I will be able to drive myself the day after my tx



    Hopefully everyone has a good week. Congrats to all who have finished!

    Love and hugs,

    Jennifer

  • michelleo13
    michelleo13 Member Posts: 342
    edited October 2011

    Ellen, my heartburn seems to be much better on Taxol than A/C. I received the papaya chews I ordered and now I don't need them.  Go figure!

    Jennifer, hope your tx goes well today. I'm back tomorrow for Taxol #2. Only 2 more after that...We're into the home stretch now!

    Has anyone heard from Madismommy? I hope she's doing okay. Maybe I'll send her a PM to check in.

    Have a great day everyone!

  • MaryjRN
    MaryjRN Member Posts: 130
    edited October 2011

    Hi ladies,

    Just got back fromTaxol #4...8 more to go.  The IV Benedryl ended up putting me to sleep this time.  I certainly can't complain about 'nappy time'! Laughing  I am trying to get info on getting a flu shot.  She said they normally advise the chemo patients to get it during the week they are not receiving treatment, but since I am a weekly gal, I need to check with my MO.  I see him next week.  So far I am achy right now, even my hands.  

    These d*mn s/e.  Constipation, insomnia, rashes, enlarged/scratchy tongues, neuropathy, v*ginal dryness...sheesh!  It's a good thing we're strong, but many times I get tired of being strong.

    I started using 'tart cherry juice' to help with insomnia and I will report back about that.  So far, I have used it 6 nights, and I am not waking as frequently during the night, and it seems to have helped my hot flashes; but that could be a coincidence.  But, I don't seem to sleep past 4am.  The jury is still out, and like I said, I will report back with a recommendation or not.

    Robyn...Way to go on your chemo graduation! 

    Waving hi to everyone else.  Hope you have a great day!

  • Grimbol
    Grimbol Member Posts: 326
    edited October 2011

    I aksed my onc about the flu shot and he said not during chemo at all!  Weird how they can all be different.  I go every 3 weeks so I thought sometime inbetween would be fine, but no, so I'll wait.  I have never had it before I just thought this year I should probably get it.

    Tell me about it with the SEs indeed. I am too, tired of being strong!  However, survival sounds pretty good to me too, so I guess I can keep going for now.  My feet are beginning to hurt from the neuropathy, don't like that one much.

  • michelleo13
    michelleo13 Member Posts: 342
    edited October 2011

    When I asked my ONC about a flu shot, she said I should definitely get one and to do it during the "off week". Who really knows???

  • Chrys23
    Chrys23 Member Posts: 291
    edited October 2011

    Hi everyone -

    I hope everyone is good! For those who have finished -- congrats and for those still recieving treament; hang in there and I wish you good days from s/e's.

    I had my mapping appointment for radiation today and it wasn't bad at all. Had some tattoos placed, and I'll go back on Oct. 31st for my simulation/dry run. My treatments officially start on November 1st. My appointments are all over the place right now: some are 1 or 2pm, others at 8:55pm and as of November 14th -- I'll be driving an hour for 6:55am treatments until December 14th (my tentative last radiation treatment) Yikes!   UndecidedI don't know how I'll do it, but I guess I will! LOL

    I'm also seeing a gastroenterologist tomorrow because the A/C really messed up my digestive tract -- I belch, have flatulence, and my stomach or hiatal hernia may be causing discomfort on my left side and I want to check it out. Sometimes If I eat heavy or fatty foods, I get discomfort and pain. I'm still having throat/tongue spasms at times too and STILL break out in hives whenever my body feels like it. I'm 3 weeks out for the last A/C and this stuff really is not out of my system yet.

    Take care everyone!!!  Hugs, Crystal

  • oaktownmom
    oaktownmom Member Posts: 114
    edited October 2011

    MarjRN - I'm having terrible insomnia too!  Will be interested to hear how the cherry juice works - I hadn't heard about that.  I started taking Ambien last week, but it's not helping at all.  I go for Taxol #2 of 12 tomorrow.

    My ONC says it's fine for me to get a flu shot, and they're going to give it to me tomorrow when I go in for chemo.  It is so interesting how much variation there is in these things - makes me kind of nervous.

    Hope everyone's week is off to a good start!

    Lucy

  • vtellen
    vtellen Member Posts: 345
    edited October 2011

    I think it is 6-8 weeks before it works its way out. At least, I think that is what my onco said! I can totally believe that your digestive tract is having issues, Chrys. I am feeling messed up as well. It is embarrassing, in fact I feel like an old woman who has lost control. I cough or laugh - I pee. Or fart. It is very uncool. What I should eat, isn't what I want to eat and vice versa. I am 1 week out from last dose, and feel as though my entire digestive tract has been rubbed w/ sand paper. Keep thinking, friday - things should turn around.

    I have an appt w/ radiologist on thursday!  Not sure what will go on?

  • vtellen
    vtellen Member Posts: 345
    edited October 2011

    Oh also, your radiation schedule scares and intrigues me, Chrys. Jimminy christmas! What an adventure we are all having......

  • vtellen
    vtellen Member Posts: 345
    edited October 2011

    And another thing: are you driving yourself? Can't we do that for at least most of it until the end? How tired will we be, I wonder?

  • DebinUtah
    DebinUtah Member Posts: 75
    edited October 2011

    MaryjRN and Istreett--after enjoying a couple months of very good sleep (thanks, I think, to Ativan), I have had terrible insomnia for the last three nights.  I haven't been able to fall asleep until 3:00am; the Ativan isn't helping.  Is this a SE of the chemo or the chemo-induced menapause?  I'm on Day 11 and should be feeling pretty good; instead I'm wiped out because I'm not sleeping. My husband had to sleep in the guest room because even though it's 50 degrees outside, I have the windows wide open and the ceiling fan on.  What's tart cherry juice supposed to do?  Anything else we can take?

    My onc gave me a flu shot right before my last infusion.  He said it was a good idea as long as the virus was dead or "mained."  I don't think I had any negative side effects from it, but my friend who has weekly infusions had one last week and has run a low-grade temperature ever since.  It makes you wonder how much of this they're just guessing at!Wink 

  • summergirl1
    summergirl1 Member Posts: 182
    edited October 2011

    Im starting to get jealous LOL most of you are finishing long before me. my last TX is not until Dec 1st boohoo I hope you dont all desert me, haha  I have been feeling well this week except for the stupid nerve pains in my arm, I feel like it will never be the same its fine once I dont do anything but if I do any laundry or light housework I pay for it dearly, Im not sure if its because they took out all my noids and therefore it may take longer to heal? I still feel like Im wearing a bra too tight even if I dont have a bra on, I havent suffered any intestinal issues TG no constipation but I swear by Brown Bread , Allbran and coffee for breakfast it does the trick everytime. Go for TX no 4 on thursday dont know why but feeling anxious about this one, 

    Robyn, Im surprised your Dr just passed  off the Lympedema issue if you check on the Lympedema site here, there are several people who got it even if they only had 1 or 2 noids removed, I truly think we should all take the necessary precautions "better safe than sorry"  once you get it its there for life, another nasty thing for us to worry about (sigh) 

  • michelleo13
    michelleo13 Member Posts: 342
    edited October 2011

    Crystal, good to hear from you! Glad to hear things are moving with your rads but that schedule is crazy. As far as I know, the radiation centre here has the same hours as the chemo suite, pretty much 8-5 daily.

    Ellen, everyone I know who has had rads has said they drove themself. My plan is to do that. Mind you the cancer centre is a 10 minutes drive from my house. If I had any distance to drive, I'd feel differently.

    Deb, I think there's a lot of guessing going on as far as cancer treatment is concerned. I made the mistake of asking my ONC last week "So when this is all over, how do we know if it worked?" I think I knew the answer before asking but thought I'd ask anyway. Her answer was "We don't. We don't do scans or anything but we will monitor you closely for symptoms." Given that I basically had no symptoms before diagnosis, this was not very reassuring! I guess that's the reality we'll all have to live with once our tx are over.

  • Grimbol
    Grimbol Member Posts: 326
    edited October 2011

    Hmm, I had been wondering about when tx ends, how do we know?  I guess we don't!  Oh well. 

    Ellen, I too am having some control issues, I couldn't deicde if it was chemo related or just happening due to my age (56)!  I'll put it down to chemo, still embarrasing though.I hope it isn't here for good now, I hope it will get better when tx ends.

    Summergirl, my last tx is the day before Thanksgiving here, well actualy 2 days so that they can fit in the Neulasta shot.  Not the best timing but good to get it over.  My kids will have to rally for Thanksgiving this year.

  • summergirl1
    summergirl1 Member Posts: 182
    edited October 2011

    I could be wrong but my surgeon told me after the MX that the cancer was GONE and that the chemo and radiation was just extra assurance to prevent reaccurance , so that is what Ive been going by well at least I hope he is right in what he said. they call it "mop up" 

  • dianamaps
    dianamaps Member Posts: 50
    edited October 2011

    First Taxotere/Herceptin was last Monday and still having s/e.  Most annoying is itchy/sensitive tongue. I just picked up a bottle of Miracle Mouthwash, something I didn't need during A/C.  Bottle directions say to "take 2 teaspoonfuls" but internet advice says to "swish around mouth for 30 seconds and then spit out."  LOL.  Any suggestions from those with experience?  Swallow or spit?

    They offered me (and administered) a flu shot DURING my chemo last week.

    I'm very happy for all of you now finishing chemo. It sounds so exciting to celebrate that!  My road is still long to go.  Three more T/H between now and Christmas, then Herceptin alone UNTIL OCTOBER 2012!  Am I the only one here who will still be doing this for another year? 

  • Vivie
    Vivie Member Posts: 52
    edited October 2011

    Summergirl - you won't be alone...I finish Jan 10th! Aaaugh that seems so FAR away to me though..

      I went for a blood draw today...they AGAIN had to stick me 2 times and the first stick was a big FAT FAIL.I was yelling GET THE NEEDLE OUT.It freaks me out , I told them to get the child sized butterfly stick and they got the ADULT one, and they don't listen to me.I had to break down after breakfast in front of the space heater ( we didn't get the heating turned on till late afternoon , and it was like 40F ( 5-10 C ) out there! Winter came early and with a vengeance!! 

     It's 1 am here , I've been watching a movie..I'd like to just forget that I'm going through that...even if it's called extra insurance or mop up or security net or whatever.

     I'm starting to think that I should've advocated for a port.Tried to , last time but I got talked down bc it's only 5 treatments remaining and it's not worth it.UGH.Tomorrow , before the tx , I have to meet again with the doctor.We'll see what happens..ugh.At least I'm halfway point and I'm switching meds in November..two tx's in Nov , one in Dec , and last one in Jan , right after the holidays! Doing taxotere..I hope that one doesn't have any nausea bc my reflux is at a bad point.

    Girls that will do radiation , good luck! I decided to not do it , it scares me a big deal.even more than chemo.

  • Chrys23
    Chrys23 Member Posts: 291
    edited October 2011

    Well, the schedule is crazy cause they had to find a permanent 'slot' for me...At least my center is open very, very late (until after 9pm); with the hour drive, for it's easier to go in either very early before work or late in the evening when the traffic in to Philly isn't a nightmare!

    I'll be driving myself.  I have to go back to work at least by this coming Monday and I'll leave work early on the afernoon apointments or go in after the 7am appointments a little later. The traffic for the late evening appts at 9pm should be a breeze getting home and back (at least I hope so).

    Ellen -- the mapping in the CT scanner was not bad at all -- just holding in the same position with arms up was tiring after awhile. Lots of markings and stickers by the dr and techincian and the permanent tatoos came after the scanning was done. I'll get more tats during the 2nd simulation on Oct. 31st, then treatment starting the next day on Nov. 1st.  25 treatments with 5 boosts to the actual tumor site.  I'll also be doing lymph area and clavical.

  • michelleo13
    michelleo13 Member Posts: 342
    edited October 2011

    Carol, don't feel too bad...my last tx isn't until November 15 so I'll be here with you for a while. Also, that's pretty much what they told me...they believe the surgery removed all the cancer. I guess the bottom line is...they don't have any way to know for sure and that's why they do chemo and rads. I have to believe that's the case...can't allow myself to think any differently.

    Dianamaps, I swish the magic mouthwash and then spit it out, but my ONC told me you can drink it if you have a sore throat so I don't think it hurts to swallow it.

  • Grimbol
    Grimbol Member Posts: 326
    edited October 2011

    Dianamaps, I will be doing Herceptin thru August next year too.  2 more chemo txs then radiation and every 3 weeks continuing on with Herceptin.  Seems like a long time to go but I expect looking back it wont be so bad.

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