October 2011 Chemo group

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  • Terry71
    Terry71 Member Posts: 293
    edited October 2011

    Carla9112 Its the chemo, my god I know that feeling I cant spell woth a poop the last 6 weeks, glad I only have 2 treatments left Im a regular typetard and its driving me crazy LOL, I know I can spell I just forget how haha..... 

    maya847: I am just getting over the joint pain now and its day 8 for me , it was horrible, I was actually in tears with it, hot baths, heating pad and hot water bottles were my best friend for days and days.... Im on the docitaxil now just started it on the 7th of oct, so between the herceptin, the POISON, and the neulasta OMFG a BIG heavy train must have ran me over came back and did it again because YES it hurt and bad...... Make sure you drink lots of water, I just started drinking vitamin water the RESTORE one its purple and its actually quite good...... NOT looking forward to the next round on the 27th, Only funny part about it is the steroids I get and take after for the 3 days, everyone laughs at me and says Im like the energizer bunny and I dont shut up I talk a mile a min hahahaha 

  • barbyjean
    barbyjean Member Posts: 108
    edited October 2011

    Good morning, everyone! I am on day 11 and feeling pretty good, except sleeping like a teenager! This morning I actually wanted coffee again and it tasted good.  Tongue out   A bit of tenderness on my tongue, I am rinsing frequently with Biotene Dry Mouth Rinse (mouthwash section of store) and it tastes ok and soothes instantly. 

    My hairdresser good friend gave me a Mia Farrow cut yesterday. She took her time and did a really good job (even tho it will only last a week) and we both had fun with it. But when I went outside it was cold and windy - brrrrr!  I'll be bald in time for Halloween! I love reading all the hair stories - we ladies sure do know how to make the best of our situations!

    wildrumara - a question:  I saw you are having T/C x6.  My onc. said I was having T/C x 4, and she would push it up to 5 or 6 if I tolerated it well. We have similar dx so how did you and your onc. arrive at that number? This first one has been so much easier than I expected, so I'm not so afraid of the next ones.

    Chemo brain is at work - I made a bank deposit for a group I'm in and put an envelope of cash in the night deposit box but didn't include the deposit slip. I found the slip a week later! Oops. I have a big mirror above the kitchen sink and write everything important on it with a dry erase marker. It is my command central and I never lose my list!!

    I hope everyone has a great weekend!!!!     Barb 

  • perts1
    perts1 Member Posts: 62
    edited October 2011

    Carla9112 - have a great time at the game! Nice to hear you have support because we all need all the support we can get! 

    General question:  It's almost 3 weeks since lumpectomy & snb & my nipple seems hard and leathery - anyone else have this?

  • auntienance
    auntienance Member Posts: 4,216
    edited October 2011

    perts -- yep sure did. Mine was in June and it's still like that only a little less so. Don't know if it's permanent or not.

  • cfdr
    cfdr Member Posts: 549
    edited October 2011

    Heads-up for any of you who are on taxotere to be very diligent about wearing sunscreen. I've been trying to do a short walk most days, where I also sit by a river for maybe 10 minutes. I always put sunscreen on my face and any exposed parts of my neck/shoulders/arms. Well I have a terrible rash on my hands, at the base of both thumbs! I've never gotten a sunburn on my hands before. I am one of those people who gets tans, I rarely burn. But now I have this awful rash on both hands, plus a patch on my neck where I must have missed. I don't recall anything in what they gave me or told me that included this as a side effect!

     Another side effect of taxotere that wasn't listed in the docs from the docs, but I found at drugs.com, is muscle and joint aches. I was wondering why I was in so much pain Tuesday night, since I did not have neulasta. Maybe it's one of those side fx that most people don't get so they don't bother telling you. 

  • wildrumara
    wildrumara Member Posts: 450
    edited October 2011

    Hey ladies -

    First off, Barb, my tumor is a little over 2 cm....actually, i have two tumors, very close together and one of them is 2 cm.  So, I would think its because of the size of the tumors???     

     I am a little bummed today.....I must admit.  I went to the salon to pick up my wig.  First off, the color was too light.  So, I left for an hour, came back and she put some low-lights in it and it looked much better.  She proceeds to cut it to a style I am comfortable with and in the end, it looks o.k., but I paid waaaaay too much for it for it to be just "ok". It almost looked like I had a helmet head.  I'm hoping that once I wash it and style it myself I will like it better???   Just bummed. I ended up getting a wig made of human hair....she talked me into it and it does look very natural and I understand its more durable, etc....its just disappointing.  I though on one of the synthetics she had and I actually liked it better!!!!   UGH!

  • maggiestatas
    maggiestatas Member Posts: 14
    edited October 2011

    Hi. Day 8 here T/C x 4. Thought I was going to avoid chemo but oncotype was 30. Chemo is kicking butt here but it is do able. Feel like I have the flu tired body aches upset stomach but not the horror chemo I had envisioned.I keep getting nose bleeds MO says that is not a side effect. Take me to get nose bleeds funny how I have never had them before. Carla I hear you about chemo brain I cheat and use spell check.Maya I have had a very heavy period also MO said that was not a side effect.Hang in there everyone. Maggie

  • cfdr
    cfdr Member Posts: 549
    edited October 2011

    maggiestatas, besides red and white blood cells, platelet counts are also lowered, which means you will bleed more easily. I wouldn't say I've had a nose bleed but every time I blow my nose there is some blood.

  • NancyJill
    NancyJill Member Posts: 218
    edited October 2011
    LuvRVing: congrats on being cancer free! That is the light at the end of the tunnel. And this is a long, dark tunnel some days. I'm on Day 12 post TCH and feel awful. Maybe it's just low blood counts. At least the GI symptoms and bad rash are better now. My hair hasn't thinned yet so I'm waiting, but expect I will get my head shaved in a month. Carla, congrats on moving forward with wig! A big step. Glad there is a benefit of getting ready faster, too! I would like this cycle to be over soon. Who knows, though, what next cycle will bring, since I'm allergic to Taxotere?
  • TAPPY
    TAPPY Member Posts: 283
    edited October 2011

    I have read a few posts about people being allergic to the "T"

    How is that determined ?  and then what ?

    I am allergic to everything, it is hard for me to take OTC with out reactions.

  • WIMusicMaker
    WIMusicMaker Member Posts: 78
    edited October 2011

    Good Morning Everyone!

    I hope this day finds everyone well and up to spending some quality time with your family. I am planning on taking a walk and watching the Packer game. I also need to sew some bandanas with fun fabric to prepare for the great shedding event!

    Tappy-when I had my allergic reaction I felt a slight tingling in my arm and a heavy pressure on my chest. The nurse gave me benedryl and I immediately felt fine. They start the iv drip very slowly and monitor you closely. I did fine until she put it up to full speed. If I were you I would tell your nurse about getting reactions easily so she can be prepared. It all happened very fast and was taken care of just as quickly. 

    Have a great day everyone! Hang in there! We CAN do this! 

  • Terry71
    Terry71 Member Posts: 293
    edited October 2011

    cfdr OMG If taxatore is the same as docitaxil wow, Joint pain like you would not believe, I did have my neulasta though and holy crap I was in so much pain for 8 days now, its just slowly starting to subside.... I was so sore I was asking people to take me out and shoot me... No one would Grrrrrr LOL but yea the joint pain is horrible..... 

    perts1: I had my lumpectomy in June and have not had any issue with the nipple, hope it gets better soon...

    wildrumara: I know that feeling about the wig, I went and got mine before I even shaved my head and I tried on about 30 to find the "right" one that was ME... well I got one after hours in the store and you know what " grizelda" as my friend calls her is sitting on her stand on the table Ive maybe worn her 6 times, I wear a ballcap or a bandana.... :-)  try to keep smiling and stay positive. the ladies here are wonderful and so full of information... Hugs to all 

  • dexxy
    dexxy Member Posts: 229
    edited October 2011

    MJhardy- I iced my feet with bags of peas! I wrapped a bag over my toes then took a kitchen towel placed that over the peas the taped it down.  It wasn't pretty and its very cold but neropathy!  I did take some of the small ice packs and put them inside a pair of my husband socks and used those for my hands.  The Latisse is a prescription, and it can cause darken of the eyelid and iris darkening as well.  I didn't have that happen but it can.  That's why I'd recommend the non prescription form.

    I did 4 rounds of TC, you only need to ice during the T

  • dexxy
    dexxy Member Posts: 229
    edited October 2011

    Hi Ladies, seems like most of you are doing well.  Please PM me if you have questions.  I check in about once a day.  My chemo brain is just now subsiding so forgive me if I forget something.  Sunscreen is definitely a must if you go out in it all all.  Oh and biotene rinses and baking soda/salt with warm water as well.  trust me, the 2 work well and will help with what I called "carpet mouth"  but also prevents mouth sores. 

    So lets talk hair, not sure if any of you have started to loose.  Its probably the hardest part for most as it really does make you realize what is going on.  Look for loss if you are on TC at day 18-22 after first treatment.  Just want you all to have a date to prepare.  I also added Biosil drops to my juice, it contains biotin and silica.  Both are great for hair, nails, and bones.  amazon sells it.  my nails looked great all during chemo, and I think it helped with not loosing eyebrows and eyelashes as well.  plus it helped growth to come back sooner.  I'm thinking of all of you.  remember you an do this!!

  • Terry71
    Terry71 Member Posts: 293
    edited October 2011

    dexxy: I have biotene and i really doesnt work well for me... The salt/ baking soda rinse does when I can actually use it but I omit the salt as it burns my mouth Grrrrrrr, my hair is GONE 25 inches cut off and the rest shaved I look like the rugrat LIL haha, have a little tuff on the top of my head that stayed its kinda funny actually.....  My nails are unreal growing like mad Ive cut them and they are back!!!!!!! Hmmmmm And yea COTTON mouth sucks, my mouth is drier than a popcorn fart LOL... and you are right WE CAN DO THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

  • TAPPY
    TAPPY Member Posts: 283
    edited October 2011

    Just got to say - I love how everyone is so supportive and nice :)

    It DOES make all the difference.

  • susanwmcg
    susanwmcg Member Posts: 76
    edited October 2011

    Hi Everyone!

    Just got home from having my hair buzzed off. The expecation is always so much worse than the event for me. I actually love my G.I. Jane look and went out to lunch with my friend without my wig, hat or scarf! Never, ever expected to feel this way.

    Finally feeling back to normal and thank goodness because I have a super busy week ahead of me. Our four girls will all be home next weekend and I CANNOT wait!

    Hugs and prayers for all of you,

    Susan

  • sue_from_wi
    sue_from_wi Member Posts: 40
    edited October 2011

    Hi, all,

    I've been following along with all the posts, laughing and crying and praying as I go. This is a fine group of very funny very upbeat very courageous women.

    I got my hair cut VERY SHORT on Friday. The buzz will be next.

    I wore my hair short (not this short, tho) for years before growing it long over the past 2 years, so it's not that much of an adjustment and people have been very complimentary. But what really warmed my heart is when I saw my 17 YO DS that night. We both had caps on. I took mine off to reveal my shorn head. He took his off to reveal a very close buzz. He said he did it to show solidarity with me. So sweet. He doesn't say much but I know he is feeling this.

    I had 4 good days last week free of nausea. Yesterday it came back but today I am feeling all right. I'm hoping for 3 good days before my next treatment on Thursday, but I'm learning to very much take it one day at a time and not be discouraged. Thankfully my work place is very supportive.

     Love and hugs to all -

  • Carla9112
    Carla9112 Member Posts: 162
    edited October 2011

    Oh my gosh - I'm laughing like crazy - just how dry is a "popcorn fart"?  I've never heard that saying but it's too funny. 

    As you know - I buzzed my hair down to 1/4 inch last week.  I'm sick of the wig already.  It is supposed to be real human hair but I'm wondering.  It looked great before I washed it and now it's "frumpy".  I swear it looks just like I took a mop and turned it upside down and put it on my head (or at least that's how I think it looks).  I can't get the flat iron to do anything with it.  Today I wore a scarf and baseball cap and it was so comfortable.  I think tomorrow will be my first day to wear a scarf to work.  The wigs just aren't comfortable and it just feels so fake.  I don't think I'm brave enough to go bare headed but you never know. By the time this is over I may not mind going out in public with my head as bare as a baby's butt.

    So Friday is my next treatment and I broke down on my mom tonight.  I just dread it so bad - I don't want to do it again.  I'm just now starting to feel good again.  It's just cruel!!  I do my treatments every three weeks.  Maybe this time won't be so bad since they seem to have my meds figured out now.

    Okay - I've put my big girl panties back on AGAIN (they keep falling down) and will try to get through this week without another breakdown.  Hope you all have a great week!

    Love and hugs to all of you!

  • sherrybaby
    sherrybaby Member Posts: 80
    edited October 2011

    Carla my next treatment is also on Friday so we will go through it together!!

    I am going to get my head shaved on Thursday since according to everyone it should start falling out that day or the next anyway. I hope everyone has a good week and no one's side effects are too bad!

    Hugs all around,

    Sherry

  • Terry71
    Terry71 Member Posts: 293
    edited October 2011

    Carla LOL I dont kow how dry a popcorn fart is but its close hahahahaha, My BIG GIRL panties keep falling down too but I pull em back on up and push forward. I have my next treatment on the 27th and NOT looking forward to it either Grrrrrrr I hate the SE's joint pain, nausea, and all the CRAP....... I dont wear my wig its a ball cap all the way....... " grizelda" is on her stand looking pretty...... LOL keep smiling ladies 

  • stjude10
    stjude10 Member Posts: 390
    edited October 2011

    Carla and Terry and all of us gals are allowed to drop our big girl panties from time to time! Wow, that same sentence said anywhere else who have heads turning. I have my 1st chemo on Tues. Got my port last thurs. and not sleeping well on either side now. Boo! Three surgeries in 5 weeks just has me totally exhausted. And I cut all my hair off. Last week was awfully busy. I'm hoping for a better week, chemo or not.

    At this point, I think exhaustion has gotten the better of me, and I kinda don't give a crap right now about bald or not. I already feel like frankenstein. I only have one boob, and on my good side I have the incisions and the port. I'm a pretty girl!

    This week will be better for all of us. I am hopeful and trying to fill my glass "half full"

  • barbyjean
    barbyjean Member Posts: 108
    edited October 2011

    I'm loving the funny posts, much rather laugh than cry any day! I call my wig the dead animal, and when I first brought it home I tried to scare my 2 kitties with it, but they weren't interested. I still have hair for a few more days, so I haven't had my first experience going out in wig or scarf. I sure am encouraged by all of you gals getting through it day by day.

    Keep laughing!   Barb 

  • maggiestatas
    maggiestatas Member Posts: 14
    edited October 2011

    I too am awaiting the fall out. I cut my long hair to now 1/2 inch. I run my fingers threw it every morning immediately upon awakening. I am still having a hair day today 10 post 1st tx.Barb you make me laugh I have a very expensive wig provided to me by my sister that has the honor of a spot in the back of my closet maybe I can turn it into a cat toy. I have been having alot of fun with scarfs I look like all the different looks I have been able to create everything from Biker Chick to Russion Grandma to Indian Princess . Endless. I have a HUGE head never new this because I have never worn hats except the occasional ball cap. I am trying to think Halloween. Maybe I can paint the earth on my bald head and be a globe. Black with finger holes bowling ball. Pink for awareness. White snowball. Anyone else planning on dressing up for Halloween? I love this site Thanks girls for sharing. It amazes me how we all know so much more about the effects of chemo then our health team because we are the one going threw this. It should be mandatory that our Doctors and Nurses read our posts. Got heartburn real bad today and rotten gas. I know TMI but I don't think I have ever had such an aroma. Hugs to all. Maggie

  • stjude10
    stjude10 Member Posts: 390
    edited October 2011

    Maggie I absolutely LOVE the idea of decorating your head for Halloween. I just don't know which one I love more, the earth or the bowling ball. Fantastic! Oh, and as for the rotten gas, I made taco salad last night, so I'm with you on that one.

    Barb=I know not sanitary, but when we brought my DDs wig home, we all tried it on, and even put it ON the dog. Anything to lighten the mood!

    I have PT today and looking forward to it! The cording in my arm always feels so much better afterward. Thinking maybe some errands, a walk for some fresh air, and then packing my chemo bag and getting ready for tomorrow. Nothing like procrastinating, huh?

    Wishing all my gals a wonderful day!

  • wildrumara
    wildrumara Member Posts: 450
    edited October 2011

    Carla - Hate my wig....hate, hate, hate it!    Spent so much money on it too, which makes me hate it even more......I look better without it.  Too funny!!  

  • Terry71
    Terry71 Member Posts: 293
    edited October 2011

    LOL Maggie way too funny, omg I laughed so hard i had tears. I like the globe idea put a red arrow <---------- You are HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I got one a PUMPKIN on the back of the head Hahahahaha a baseball, or just paint a face on the back of your head LOL  OMG I havent laughed like this is a while... Love all you girls <3

  • cfdr
    cfdr Member Posts: 549
    edited October 2011

    Question for you married ladies: how is your husband handling all this?

    Sunday morning DH and I had a fight...he was annoyed because I couldn't give him a timetable of when I'd feel well enough to accompany on an errand...and I yelled at him that I was sorry my being sick was such an inconvenience to him. So he COMPLETELY avoided me the entire day. And this is the morning after I'd been running a 100 degree fever, because I have swollen throat glands on top of the chemo sfx (I was already annoyed at him before the fight because the night before, he balked at the idea of taking me to the ER if my temp continued to rise).

    Even on a good day, he has yet to come in the room and ask if I need anything. He says that he has made dinner for me every night, but it's just not true. A couple of nights he's prepared dinner I couldn't stomach so I've asked him to just heat me up a can of soup or leftovers, or he's cooked so late that I've just grabbed something myself. I've lost 5 pounds in 10 days. Last night he wouldn't even speak to me so I was on my own to prepare dinner....after 4 bouts of diarrhea and swollen glands all day.

    I feel really abandoned...and told him so this morning. I am sorry I yelled at him, and told him so, but then I got hysterical again. I am feeling physically and emotionally about as low as I ever have in my life. I hate feeling sorry for myself, and I hate feeling needy, on top of all the physical crap. I wish I was at my sparkling best and could handle all this with utter grace, but I'm not. I'm exhausted and short-tempered and in pain.

    Is it too much to ask for him to overlook my being exhausted and sick and unpleasant, and be there for me anyway?

  • perts1
    perts1 Member Posts: 62
    edited October 2011

    Talk about emotional.  Reading the posts I've laughed and cried so I guess we're all where we're supposed to be.  cfdr, That's got to be hard.  My husband is trying to be supportive  but I keep losing my temper.  I don't know how to stop.  Tomorrow is my first chemo and I'm going to see if I can find my big girl panties and act something like an adult about this (hah!  fat chance).  The very best wishes to all of us.  Have faith!

  • maggiestatas
    maggiestatas Member Posts: 14
    edited October 2011

    CFDR. Men can't take it when we are sick. They should have a say this do this  don't do that book for them.He sounds scared to death of losing you and just wants you to do everything how you did before you got sick. He is mad at your illness not you.

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