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  • luvmy2kids
    luvmy2kids Member Posts: 65
    edited October 2011

    my tumor was 1.1 cm IDC Triple negative with chondroid metaplasia... I also had 1.2 cm DCIS in the same right upper quandrant... Only one incision was needed during my lumpectomy....(no node involement, no vascular involvement and clear margins) Stage 1 Grade 3..  Both my BS and Oncologist are trying to persuade me into radiation, but will do whatever I want--I just want to make sure this does not come back (like anyone)...  I would love to know how your mastectomy goes....I would love to keep my ta tas but do not want this terrible disease to come back--ya know... They tell me results are pretty much the same...

     I told my Mom I thought I was having hot flashes--good to know I was right....

    I am planning a Disney Cruise with my family for next year--they did not get a chance to do a lot this summer due to all of my appointments;-(  

     Like a friend said to me "this to shall pass".. 

  • J-Bug
    J-Bug Member Posts: 626
    edited October 2011

    I wonder about how much more risk you may have with being triple negative? Also, you have had two different kinds of cancer in the same breast? Stage one sounds great. Grade three though means that it is a faster growing cancer right? I would read more about these factors before making a decision. Dr. Susan Love's Breast Book is a fabulous resource and written in very relatable terms. These are really tough decisions.

    I have had a lot of difficulty with the idea of removing an entire breast that has no problems, but I have had to have a biopsy on the good breast as well as three other places on my body after having a PET scan. I am thinking a double mastectomy because I just cannot imagine taking this much time out of my life all over again for chemo and surgery and radiation and the work and money issues that this cancer has triggered is just not worth taking the risk. But, removing an entire body part - one that my husband loves dearly : ), just to avoid risk? I think it's the right thing for me, but a tough decision...

    Good luck with your decision. I weighed pros and cons and had written questions for both my surgeon and my oncologist. That helped. I tried to narrow it down to as much about science as I could, but it couldn't quite be done.  

  • misswim
    misswim Member Posts: 931
    edited October 2011

    Off for the 7th taxol today. Wish me luck...

  • mavinbook
    mavinbook Member Posts: 31
    edited October 2011

    J-Bug and luvmy2kids:  I had a single mastectomy in June with no reconstruction. Given the choice I would do the exact same thing (actually I might opt for a bilateral if I had to do it over again).  I didn't care for the drains (I woke up with 2, which I knew meant the surgeon had found some in my nodes), but otherwise it was not that bad.  After talking with a plastic surgeon I was completely put off the idea of reconstruction. I'd rather have a foob that I can remove than one that potentially needs replacing in 10 or 20 years--but I HATE general anathesia and will do almost anything to avoid it.

    I remember well the agonizing that went into the decision, but I also remember well the profound sense of peace I found once I made the decision. I wish you two the same peace and the same successful recovery.  We are almost there!

    Misswim: Good luck, you are three ahead of me. Keep up the good fight. 

    Rabbit: I can't wait to see the pic.

    Joy and peace to all.

  • misswim
    misswim Member Posts: 931
    edited October 2011

    Very excited. At chemo and just met with the onc. Not only is she totally for me doing the metformin trial, but when I asked about the use of zometa to prevent Mets, she was all for that too. Y ippee!!! Onceonce chemo is over and we start tamox, we will di zometa once every 4 months. I am elated. She also reminded me that even if we did neither, I still have an excellent chance of no recurrence. But why not do whatever extra we can

    Feeling the most positive I have in months.

  • Izzy325
    Izzy325 Member Posts: 59
    edited October 2011

    In the chair right now for #5 of 6. Almost didn't happen granulocytes low and getting checked every couple of days. Oddly not great yesterday but good today. I am thrilled not to put off tx. Sooner done with this one, sooner done.

    Rabbit, so sorry about the SE. Sunds like the GI system is your tough spot? And very cool about the walk. There is one here in 2 weeks. Am going to try to go to that one. May steal your idea. I also wanted add to my shirt a big thank you to the women who were research volunteers in the past. None of us would have nearly as much information and hope without their paving the way for us. I am a reasearch nurse and know that knowledge comes from a lot of hard work and volunteers.

    Misswim, that big thank you goes to you. I know you are considering a trial and have potential benefit but the knowledge we gain is huge. so thank you! And I am very happy you are feeling better.

  • kk11
    kk11 Member Posts: 210
    edited October 2011

    Grrr! I just lost my last post! I will have to retype it....

     First, I want to thank you all for letting me share my seagull story with you and for your support as this is a really hard time for me with having to wait even longer for a baby while sitting on the sidelines and seeing others get exactly that. My neighbor who just had her baby made reference to whether my oncologist would "let" me go off Tamoxifen early to have a baby. I quickly informed her that it's my body and no one has to "let" me do anything. I could have have refused any treatment I've already have. My body my choice. I was a little iritated because she just doesn't get what it's like to be forced to wait after already having been forced to wait....we started our baby mission 21 months ago....she already has her baby after starting hers less than a year ago. No comparison.

    2nd, my last chemo was yesterday! :) I am officially DONE with that! I am not looking forward to Neulasta today (the shot is never a problem, but the side effects stink), but knowing it's my last one, I am willing to do it.

    3rd, I have a tentative date for my swapout surgery! It will be on November 4th and I was told it would be a 4-5 day recovery to get back to normal activity and probably 3-4 weeks for more strenuous activity. I'm excited to be on the "books" for that and that I will have my new boob in time for my 29th birthday on the 11th!

    4th, the big Tamoxifen discussion. I had the unpleasant conversation with my oncologist yesterday. He knows I'm not excited about taking it and I also informed him I don't plan to take it longer than 2 years without a break. I want to have that baby and I can't imagine wishing away the next 5 years of my life until I can after all I have already spent the last 21 months of my life pining for a baby . No one should have to wish away the next 5 years, especially not someone who is supposed to be in the prime age of her life. As a doctor, he HAS to recommend the full 5 years and I get that and didn't try to argue it. I simply asked him to support my decision even if he didn't agree. Well....he said he can't, but that he wouldn't "fire me as a patient" either, so I guess that's that. I plan to see how the next 2 years goes...As long as I'm clear of cancer with no question marks, I will go ahead and take a break starting in October 2013. I plan to go right back on Tamoxifen after I have a baby for the remaining years. At the moment, I feel comfortable with that decision. I may end up doing the whole 5 years....who knows. But I need to tell myself 2 right now because my emotional health depends on it and without some hope, my physical health could suffer too. I am going to see the other 2 oncologists I met with just after my diagnosis including the one who suggested I take a break after 2 years. I also plan to see the fertility specialist who worked with me to store 9 embryos for the future and ask him his thoughts, since I believe they count too. He's not just any fertility specialist. He works only with cancer patients, so I know he has a lot of information to offer.

    5th - Neuropathy/Bone Pain/ Hot Flashes - The neuropathy got quite a bit worse with my 3rd Taxol treatment and I don't expect it to improve with this last one. I was told it can take 6-12 months to go away after treatment but that each month should show good improvement. The bone pain has really mostly only bothered me for about a week after each treatment, so I don't expec that to continue, but I am aware that for premonapausal women, bone loss can be an issue with Tamoxifen, so I was told to take Calcium supplements to prevent that from happening. As for hot flashes, there isn't much they can do. I still can't sleep through the night without getting them, but I was told it should get better once my ovaries start functioning again, whenever that is. I will probably still get them through Tamoxifen, but hopefully not as bad. And they can always give anti-depressents if it gets really bad, but I am going to try to avoid them. I've had enough drugs in my system over the last year and I want to avoid adding new ones that aren't absolutely necessary.

    So that's my update for now....I'll try to go back to all your posts to read and reply.

  • luvmy2kids
    luvmy2kids Member Posts: 65
    edited October 2011

    J-Bug----Yes, grade 3 means fast grower;-( I am with you with the time, money, pain this has caused and to go through it again later would be terrible.  My Oncologist tells me if it reoccurs it will most likely not be in the breast but somewhere else--I think this is why he is telling me to go the radiation route.... I am going to ask for a MRI during my next dr. appointment scheduled for 10/24...  If the MRI shows clean I think I will feel like I would be able to make a more informed decision...If you are TN your chances are higher for recurrance but if you can make it 2-3 years without a recurrance then the chances go back to someone who never has had cancer.. So there are ups and downs to being TN...

    Mavinbook--I originally wanted a Bilateral if I was going to go through with it.... Then I started thinking why take off the other perfectly fine breast(now granted I wanted my boobs to match--I am a size D so I did not one to be saggy and the other nice and perky)---decisions decisions-then I've read about a lot of complications regarding mastectomies....I've read it is very painful and long process--I would do reconstruction...Then I am like well might as well do both because what if the other one decides to go bad---what if it is already there as well but they just did not see it.. I feel paranoid... Anyway thank you for your input... I am trying to find out how long recovery time is and of course the pain and how they look afterward.... 

    It sounds like everyone is moving right along with their treatments hopefully, we will all be though with chemo (this stage) and onto the next.. Then on with the rest of our lives!!!!!!!

    I hope everyone has little better yet no SE this week and next:-) 

  • kk11
    kk11 Member Posts: 210
    edited October 2011

    Frances - I agree that Tamoxifen is still beneficial for someone who is weakly estrogen positive, but I think the benefits are less significant than someone with highly estrogen positive tumors. I am still going to do my 5 years, but just with a break as long as all goes well. I think the 2 years should be enough to protect me against a recurrence during a pregnancy and then I'll go right back on Tamoxifen again.

    Ellenquilt - I still haven't slept through the night either. I look forward to a day when I can again! I have always taken for granted my ability to sleep my 8 hours without waking up and now I'm getting to see the other side of things when that's impossible. As for melatonin, I took it for a few days without much help...hot flashes come when they want and they still wake me up regardless. But when I took it, I was taking 2.5mg tablets, just one each. I think the bottle said I could take up to 2 pills. I may try it tonight because day 2 of chemo always seems to hit me the worst sleepwise.

    J-Bug - You are almost there! Just another 2 days and you'll be in the chair for the last time! When is your surgery? And how is the job search going? As for not having to do rads with mastectomy, I believe that's only the case if you get good margins and have zero lymph node involvement. Did you have any lymph nodes that were positive? If not, I wonder if it's just because your tumor size was so large. I know that I ended up with a mastectomy because it gave me an out from radiation (no positive nodes here and good margins).

    Ana - I think having a plan for your next surgery is important. Mine will be just a week after yours. It will be good to have that be done with too. The nice thing is that it's a one day thing and then recovery time, but not with continuous setbacks like we had with chemo. I feel like it will get better from here.

    fightn4fam - Congrats on being done with chemo! I agree, I will not fully celebrate until the side effects are gone!

    Shinypop - I'm sorry you didn't make it to the book festival. :(  I hope you can get that supervisory job. It will be good to have something positive happen in your life after all of this!

    Misswim - It's normal to feel this way towards the end of chemo. My oncologist even mentioned to me that when you finish chemo, it can be really hard because you feel like your'e not being monitored as much anymore and that can be really scary. Remember you will be doing other things after chemo to protect yourself, so you're not done being able to take care of yourself. But you will hopefully feel better physically at the same time. As you gain your energy back, things will hopefully go back closer to normal, as normal is it will ever be after this experience. Also, congrats on getting into the trial...just curious...is your glucose level currently normal or is it on the slightly higher end? Mine is normal (80s to 90s), so before I ask my oncologist about it , I wanted to know glucose levels factor into the criteria at all. Remember this is yet another way you are protecting yourself. You can say you're doing everything you can for yourself. I see many people, who don't exercise at all, smoke, eat irresponsibly, etc who aren't protecting themselves right now and I always wonder when their cancer diagnosis will come, because they AREN'T doing what they can to protect themselves. We've had our wake-up call and they just haven't had theirs. I was hoping that my situation would encourage others to treat their bodies better, but I haven't see any change in lifestyle from those I know which sucks. I was never a smoker and always exercise, but my eating habits have improved dramatically (not that they were ever poor), so I feel like I'm doing all I can right now for myself. Just wish others would follow suit.

    Susan - Thanks for your kind words. Good luck with radiation and yes, I too have the constant runny nose. I blame it on the lack of hairs there. It should get better as our hair comes back!

    Paulamati - You are almost through with chemo! It's a HUGE hurdle. I won't be having radiation, but the timeframe is much shorter, even though you have to go every day. I hope it flies by quickly for you.

    Rabbit - Sorry you're having such a lousy time with chemo and all of it's side effects. I hope your blood count goes up next time. My neutrophils got as low as 1.7 with this chemo (1.2 when I was getting chemo for the molar pregnancy), but really improved after my first Taxol infusion. Since then, they are steadily dropping again, but never caused any treatment delays. Just do what you can to steer clear of any viruses. I know you have to stay off your feet as much as possible. Do you have access to a swimming pull to see if you can go swimming instead? If not, you can always lie on your back and cycle in the air for a while. It's not the same, but can get your heart rate up and you'll stay off your feet at the same time. Just a thought. And thanks for putting all our names on your back for the Susan G Komen walk! I need to look into it doing a walk too. I wanted to get through chemo first before making any definite plans. I commend you for doing it DURING chemo even with all the trouble you've had.

    Ana - Thanks for your encouragement for hanging on to my dream. I wish I didn't have to wait so long, but I am hoping it goes by quickly.

    Snoopy - Seems like you are moving right along with your treatments. It will be great when you finally move on from rads and to the next phase. We will never be "DONE" with breast cancer, but we will move through phases towards better overall health. Phase 1 & 2 are surgery and chemo (guess it's a different order for everyone) and from there the phases include rads, hormonal therapy, physical recovery from all of this, healthier overall lifestyles, and of course emotional recovery, in no particular order.

    Luvmy2kids - I haven't had the salty taste at all. Maybe it's a sign you need more fluids?

    Dexxy - Good luck with the rads! When will you have your last one? The countdown for that begins now!

    Izzy - You will be done before you know it!

    I hope I haven't missed anyone. It's so hard to keep up on here when you're MIA for a while. I will probably go MIA again until the SEs wear off but you are always in my thoughts and we are getting through this in the best way we can. I can't wait until we are ALL done with chemo, radiation, AND surgery! One step at a time though right?

  • luvmy2kids
    luvmy2kids Member Posts: 65
    edited October 2011

    kk11- You could be right--did not want to drink that much cause of the salty taste but I am drinking more now... It has gotten a little better.  Thank you for the advice;-)

  • rabbit
    rabbit Member Posts: 613
    edited October 2011
  • rabbit
    rabbit Member Posts: 613
    edited October 2011

    there it is, I have no idea how I got all the names on there fairly neatly LOL. Please, take a look and let me know if I forgot someone. I think I got everyone that has been a part of our July group, even just a post or two ;)

    A quick update, my onco decided that it would be just as effective to do 9 weeks of taxol, each week starting next Wed. so instead of every 3 weeks (at 3 more doses) for 3 more weeks, it will be every week...but I will finish within the same time frame, he feels the smaller doses of Taxol will work better for me than the larger doses of Docetaxel.....comments anyone?

    Ok, my boyfriends, bday today, I'm going to watch a movie with him...

    catchup in a bit

    xoxoxo 

  • dexxy
    dexxy Member Posts: 229
    edited October 2011

    You girls are so amazing!  Rabbit I can't wait to see the picture, you are walking for all of us!  KK11 2 rads down 28 to go.  So far not so bad, but who knows, we all know how SE's sneak up on us.  On that note, I've got to ask.  Does anyone have the terrible foot pain?  or the tight muscle pain? legs and arms mostly?  God its been going on since my 3rd TC and it really is worse now that I'm 4 weeks out.  I'm going to see the Nurse practitioner Monday.  My RO Nurse said it was kind of normal and could go on for 6-12 months!  good lord the gift that keeps on giving.  Some days when I get up in the morning I can barely walk to the bathroom.  Anyone else????

  • misswim
    misswim Member Posts: 931
    edited October 2011

    Rabbit -love ya darling!!!!! Thank you. I am finding tackle pretty doable. A lot of fatigue and joint and muscle soreness, but no mouth sores, or stomach issues. Might be much better for you.

  • J-Bug
    J-Bug Member Posts: 626
    edited October 2011

    Rabbit: My oncologist offered me the chance to change to weekly saying it would be easier on me because of the high pain level Taxol was giving me. I couldn't do it because it just seemed like too much time in the chair. I could see why it would be a great choice for you with your SE's.

    I appreciate your thinking of us on the race! 

  • luvmy2kids
    luvmy2kids Member Posts: 65
    edited October 2011

    dexxy-

     I have some leg pain usually a couple days after Taxol...I also have hot flashes......

  • kk11
    kk11 Member Posts: 210
    edited October 2011

    luvmy2kids - Glad the extra fluids are helping. I have only started experiencing hot flashes as of my 3rd Taxol treatment 2 weeks ago, but it's getting old fast.

    Rabbit - Thanks for putting our names on your shirt and for walking for us! As for Taxol, I don't know how it compares to what you've been getting. Like J-Bug, I didn't want to spend that much time in the chair, so I had the dose dense (longer treatment sessions - yesterday was 9 hours at the cancer center including bloodwork, doctors appointments, and chemo), but just every other week and for 8 weeks total - weekly would have been 12). 

    Dexxy - Hoping the next 28 sessions go quickly. I was also told that the neuropathy could take 6-12 months to go away. I really started feeling it after my 3rd treatment and just had my last one yesterday, so who knows how much worse it could get. 

    Misswim - Glad to read that Taxol hasn't been as hard on you as AC.

    Had my Neulasta shot today and the muscle pain and soreness is kicking in....I'm always extra thirsty for the first few days...bone pain will start tomorrow I'm sure. Hot flashes continue as does the neuropathy. I'll celebrate being done with chemo when I start to feel better. On a positive note, I wanted to share with you that I saw a special screening for a documentary film called "Dying to do Letterman" last night. It's about a comedian who was diagnosed with cancer at age 35 and decided he was going to push for his dream to be on Letterman. It's inspiring and he was at the screening last night so I got to meet him. It reminded me to keep living my life and not giving up on my dreams. He is performing at a comedy club in my area and I'm taking my husband to see it tomorrow night....we need some more comedy in our lives.  Good night ladies and I'll try to check in again tomorrow.

  • mavinbook
    mavinbook Member Posts: 31
    edited October 2011

    Rabbit--I haven't had the higher doses of Taxol on a DD or x3 basis, I started with weekly. The thought of less intense side effects was appealing.  I honestly have a harder time with the pre-meds than the Taxol. I'm such a cheap date that the 35mg of Benadryl leaves me napping through the decadron and taxol. All told I'm usually there for under 2 hours (including blood work) so I really don't mind going every week--when else do I get to nap in the middle of a work day?!  My joints usually ache on Monday afternoon and Tueday after a Thursday infusion, but I already have joint issues so I wouldn't read too much into that!Here's hoping that the dosing change makes a huge difference in how you feel! 

    Dexy--I did have a lot of tightness in my hamstrings with the cytoxan.  I hope you are starting to feel better.

    KK11--You are amazing. May the future bring nothing but goodness.

    Everyone--You ladies inspire me daily and help keep me sane.  Thank you.  Anyone have a surefire way to tell the difference between allergies and a cold? I may sneeze myself out of this chair at this rate.

  • Snoopy73
    Snoopy73 Member Posts: 287
    edited October 2011

    Hello AMAZING ladies!!! Rabbit - Thank you for walking in honour of all of us, you rock girl:-) hope you enjoyed the movie with your BF. Hugs to you(( )))

    Dexxy - I am expereicneing the tightness and pain on my legs and arms.. urrgghh for me it started after my 4th TC round. At first i thought maybe i was jsut tired and it was the fatigue but its been going on for 4 weeks now!! I did the American Cancer Soc walk on sunday, walked 6 miles!! and the last mile, my legs could barely move!! I mentioned this to my Rad NP and she said it may be the effects of chemo... will mention it to my RO today. For me it hurts most at night (end of the day) i can barely move my legs.

    Okay, 3 rads down.. so far nothing to report on the SE part, jsut soooo tired!!! my schedule for the next 6 weeks is CRAZY!!! Good lord help me get through this.

    Take care ladies.

  • Allenan
    Allenan Member Posts: 111
    edited October 2011

    Snoopy:  That great that you did the walk. 

    KK11 : My hot flashes have started to subside

     Rabbit:  You are just simply amazing.  Thank you.  I will be walking on October 16th.  You just gave me an idea.

     Everyone:-- Its my birthday today and my hubby is taking me out for lunch.  I wish you all a great stress free, side effects free day.  I am still having this burning sensation in my other breast.  MY oncologist said to use warm compress.  I did not use it yet.  I get the sensation about twice every hour.  It does not hurt but feels weird.  The incision arm feels as if I did some heavy lifting or exercise.  I cannot get comfortable when I sleep, but I am watching both.  I am afriad of being a nusiance, but hey, its my life and I need to get some more answers.

    If anyone else is experiencing this, I would love to hear from you.

    HUGS to all

    On my way through the door.  ...........................  Cool

  • Brysmom
    Brysmom Member Posts: 2
    edited October 2011

    Are you all still meeing? I just logged and was hoping to find an active Stage IV group. 

  • Snoopy73
    Snoopy73 Member Posts: 287
    edited October 2011

    Oohh just want to comment on the hot flashes.. I've been getting them alot!!! I used to be the cold freak, nowadays I am the opposite.. 1 min i am cold the next i am sweating like a pig!!! Most nights i sleep with the fan on.. last night it was cold so i did not put the fan on, woke up middle of the night my top was completely wet (had to change)!!!

  • yooper
    yooper Member Posts: 47
    edited October 2011

    I need to go back and get caught up on all the posts I've missed. Am in the chair right now for Taxol #3. Last one in two weeks! Yippee!!



    It seems we've tweaked the premeds enough that I don't feel horrible and can handle sitting here for the hours of Taxol. Much better than last time.



    Starting to lose my eyebrows and lashes now. Guess I won't care since it doesn't cause any pain or make me feel sick.

  • J-Bug
    J-Bug Member Posts: 626
    edited October 2011
    Brysmom: We are all different stages in this group. It is just a group who started chemo in July 2011. If you are specifically looking for stage iv people, go to the Forum Index tab and then look for Connecting with Others who have a Similar Diagnosis, then there is a category that is for Stage IV and Metastic Breast Cancer. I hope you find what you are looking for. They are a great group and seem to be very active on here.
  • dexxy
    dexxy Member Posts: 229
    edited October 2011

    Snoopy- could we be more alike??? The muscle tightness just seems to be getting worse at week 4 post chemo.  Im going to meet with my MO on Monday so I'll let you know what she says.  For me its really almost every muscle.  even my butt!  legs are worse, so if I sit for 5 minutes when I go to move everything is stiff, there is that 5 seconds of tightness.  And like you by the end of the day my feet hurt so bad I can barely move.  Urgh!!! I actually did better during chemo.  See you just never know.  ohh and hot flashes, I've chosen to pretend they aren't there :)

  • khs113
    khs113 Member Posts: 105
    edited October 2011

    Snoopy and Dexxy---I have the same SE. Even when I go up a few steps it reminds me of the old Jane Fonda exercise tape when she says "Feel the burn!" I've started doing some yoga stretches each day. My onc says I need to do more exercise but boy, that's hard with the muscle soreness and fatigue.

    Ellenquilt---Are you still out there? Everything OK? Haven't seen on this site for a few days.

    Yooper---Glad you're near the end of chemo. Then you'll be on the road to feeling better.

    Take care everyone.

  • Cathy_C
    Cathy_C Member Posts: 61
    edited October 2011

    Rabbit: Even after all your horrible SE's I cannot believe that you can get out there and walk. Congrats to you.  I get tired going just one isle at the grocery store. And I surely appreciate you including us while you walk. I will be thinking of you.

     Well I finally made it through all the SE of this first round of Taxotere. Getting blood drawn tomorrow so I can have my second round on Monday. Hopefully this one goes much smoother.

    Wishing you all a wonderful weekend. It's finally cooled off here in AZ so I know I will.

  • luvmy2kids
    luvmy2kids Member Posts: 65
    edited October 2011

    It sounds as though a lot of you will be starting rads soon..... Please keep us that are a couple of weeks behind you in the loop as how the rads go....... A BIG THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!!!!  Everyone have a great day. 

    I will be doing a mall lock-in with my 8 year old Brownie Saturday night..I sure hope I will have the stength to get through it....  Sealed

  • misswim
    misswim Member Posts: 931
    edited October 2011

    I am on day 2 after taxol and so much sorer than usual. Caught a cold too. Yuck.

  • J-Bug
    J-Bug Member Posts: 626
    edited October 2011

    I am graduating today! Last Taxol! The only thing that makes me a bit fearful about it is that surgery is next.

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