Taxotere/Cytoxan starting July 2011

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  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2011

    Hi all, please don't take antioxidants whilst on rads as it will reduce the effectiveness of the rads.

  • rossileo18
    rossileo18 Member Posts: 245
    edited September 2011

    Frances, on my last day of chemo as I was saying goodbye to the nurses one of them did mention that sometimes radiation patients end back in the infusion area to get fluids, so the risk of getting dehydrated from radiation is very real. I didn't know that. Good that you remind us as we move onto the next stage.



    I'm on day five post chemo and still trying to get past the horrible taste in my mouth, but it gets better every day and am looking forward to having a thank you lunch for my coworkers who have been great about dealing with all my missed and less-than-productive days.



    Radiation simulation scheduled for Friday.



    Peachy, yay you made it through number one, now enjoy yourself. It's not fun, but you know you can get through this now.

  • ladyboss1997
    ladyboss1997 Member Posts: 202
    edited September 2011

    Day 5 post final chemo. At work today, and still a little sluggish. The taste in my mouth is worse this time than ever, but I know it will be mostly gone by the weekend.  

    FrancesC: congrats on beginning rads! Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate.

    Rossileo/Phillybird: we will walk through this rad thing together

    I don't meet with my rads onc until 10/7, so I guess I will start 10/10 or 10/17. 

  • peachy-pie
    peachy-pie Member Posts: 201
    edited September 2011

    Day 12 out from chemo #1 and feeling pretty much back to normal again!  :)    I also have the eye twitching going on from time to time,  and my tongue is still a tad tingly.   But other then that I feel back to normal once again.   If my next 3 treatments go as well,  i'll be a very happy camper!   Smile    My hair is also still intact,   but not holding my hopes too high.   I expect it will start coming out shortly.

    I was using the Biotene mouth rinse,  but found that the baking soda & salt rinse worked better and faster.   The inside of my mouth felt like sandpaper for days,  and once I started using the 1/2 tsp baking soda and 1/2 tsp salt in warm water 3 times a day it cleared my mouth right up.  

  • ladyboss1997
    ladyboss1997 Member Posts: 202
    edited September 2011

    Peachy: I am so glad #1 has went so well for you. I felt the same after #1 - if they all go this good, I can breeze through this. Well, they all went that well - so, keep your chin up.

    I wore myself out today on my first day back at work. I usually stick to an 8 hour day my first week after chemo, but today I had some crisis' that needed handling so I ended up working 10 hours. I am wore out!  

    Hang in there my beautiful friends!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    Today was a big day for me - an all day seminar and seeing lots of people who don't know about my BC.  I wore the wig and looked really normal, made sure to drink a lot of water, ate some food that didn't taste too bad or burn my mouth, and managed to network and take notes and all went well.

    Good tip on the baking soda - Peachy - I never did try it and might do so now - my mouth is really being a pain this time.

    Also still have that eye twitch thing going,  Can't wait til the weekend when I will be able to enjoy food and wine again!

  • peachy-pie
    peachy-pie Member Posts: 201
    edited September 2011

    LadyBoss I am glad to hear all of your treatments went as well as the first one,  that really is encouraging!  Smile      Get a good night of rest after your long day,  10 hours is a very long day to get through.   

  • ladyboss1997
    ladyboss1997 Member Posts: 202
    edited September 2011

    Phillybird: Wonderful that you had such a great day and felt like a normal person. That is so important when dealing with BC. I LOVE my wig. I may never give it up.

    Rossilio: keep us informed on your progress with rads

    FrancesC: I will have to check out that antioxidants thing. It doesn't make sense, but you never know . . .  

    I have not tried the baking soda/salt thing. I have had no mouth soreness - just the bad taste. I, too, am looking forward to a weekend of being able to taste my food and wine.  ,     

  • peachy-pie
    peachy-pie Member Posts: 201
    edited September 2011
    Day 13 and my hair is now coming out in strands.........had my wigs out last night,  getting prepared.   Frown
  • Snoopy73
    Snoopy73 Member Posts: 287
    edited September 2011

    Hi ladies, I am sorry i have been MIA, alot going on the last week!! lost my relative, had the burial service.I am sorry to all that have tough SEs.

    Had an appointment with my RO on friday, LOTS of info, overwhelmed, scary... i also had a planning/marking session. Starting my radiation next week 10/3 for 6 wks 5 days/wk.

  • ladyboss1997
    ladyboss1997 Member Posts: 202
    edited September 2011

    Peachy: go shave your hair off. Trust me, it is less stressful. And it puts you in control.

    Snoopy: I am so sorry about your loss, but we are glad you are back with us. What about rads scared you? After chemo you should be able to handle anything.

    My appointment with RO is on Tues 10/4. I am hoping to be able to do the internal radiation, which is twice a day for 5 days through a catheter. I will find out that day when I start.  

    I googled the antioxidant thing. Reasearch is mixed on the subject. I will do whatever my RO recommends.

      

  • Snoopy73
    Snoopy73 Member Posts: 287
    edited September 2011

    ladyboss - Thanks:-) surprisingly Rads scare the Sh***t out of me.. not sure why.. part of the reason is all the side effects my RO explained to me on friday, long term & short term.. i freaked out, thought to myself - Darn, looks like i dont have a choice, damned if i do damend if i dont!! - what scared me most is the long term effects (lung, heart problem, pneumonia etc) my RO reassured me that the probability of getting them is like .0001% chance, but he had to tell me its part of his job., and i understand that but was just so overwhelmed!! also had my planning/mapping session on friday. Well, will update you on how the simulation will go this friday..Take care now.

  • peachy-pie
    peachy-pie Member Posts: 201
    edited September 2011

    Probably going to make an appt. with my stylist for Saturday to have it shaved.  :(      I was just reading another thread about how taxotere can cause permanent hairloss.   I hope this is not true.   

  • rossileo18
    rossileo18 Member Posts: 245
    edited September 2011

    Peachy, the hair loss issue is probably like all the things that COULD happen that usually don't, just like the things that snoopys RO mentioned. So dont think too much about. You're pretty much on schedule. I recall mine started going a couple of weeks in. I actually never shaved it off and have a little bit that peeps out from under my hats. I call them my survivor hairs.



    Snoopy, my simulation is this friday too. Interesting that my RO didn't talk about all the potential issues with radiation. I think he was too busy telling me about the clinical trial, which I ended up not signing up for. Too many unknowns. I think I would be too stressed out being a guinea pig.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    Rossileo - Yes, survivor hairs!  I have those, but fewer and fewer every day.  I know that I am not kidding anyone, but I was curious how my hairloss would progress, and also decided never to shave it.  There is so little, that they don't interfere with putting on the wig (just tuck them under the nylon wig liner), and they look cool poking out from under skull caps and bandanas.

    Peachy - Regarding the permanent hairloss with Taxotere - it is incredibly rare, but you'll hear plenty of yelling on the internet about it from the unfortunate few.  I would not give that one thought at the moment.  What is the use of worrying about stuff like that?  Only concern yourself with what is happening right now and what is more certain to happen in the near future - like tomorrow.  Also - if you are like me, your hair will likely start regrowing in places on your head and your armpits by about the start of cycle 4.  That's a sure sign that you are not among the unfortunate few.

    I tried the baking soda and salt rinse - mouth is so much less painful!  Thanks Peachy!

    Regarding rads - they are supposed to be "a piece of cake" compared to chemo.  Yeah - we will get tired as the weeks of rads go on, but that will be nothing compared to the SEs from chemo.  Also - during rads, our hair will be continuing to grow back and that will plant a smile on my face.  So our spirits will continue to rise during rads and we'll all be in a generally better mood most of the time.  No wonky mouths, bad tastes, intestinal problems, back pains.  I hope the neuropathy settles down soon too.  My RO told me I will probably have some minor damage to the top of my right lung, but that I wouldn't even notice it if I were a marathon runner.

    Snoopy - can you tell us briefly what the rads planning and tatooing session was like?  Mine is Oct. 11; my filming session will be Oct. 14; the real rads begin on Oct. 17.

    Regarding antioxidants - it is probably fine to eat foods that have antioxidant properties (lots of fruits and veggies), and not a good idea to take antioxidant supplements (high concentrations of such substances).  But my plan is to do exactly what the RO and his nurse tell me to do.

    Good night ladies!

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2011

    Phillybird you are spot on on the antioxidants and on the food. I have been advised to take lots of protein too as the cells need this to heal after rad. I am sitting here waiting for rad #4 and so far it has been a breeze. Just a little tired as day progresses and tightness in my left arm (this is expected and nurse told me to do stretching exercises daily). Rad onco also mentioned no serious side effects so Snoopy just head on with your rads calmly and count down to completion of C treatments.

  • ladyboss1997
    ladyboss1997 Member Posts: 202
    edited September 2011

    OK, rad ladies - remember to drink lots of liquids. Stretches are an excellent idea. I have been doing them daily to help with the body aches. Whether or not our hair will grow back is the least of our worries. I a am post #4, I still have a few hairs left on my shaved head. I have been shaving my underarms all along, so I don't now if there has been any growth there. I am investing in some Ovation Therapy scalp treatment for hair growth. Also, I heard that the eyebrows will come out the first week or so of radiation. It is due to new eyebrow hair growth underneath, and should be very temporary. Have a good day, my friends!

  • peachy-pie
    peachy-pie Member Posts: 201
    edited September 2011
    Yes,  hopefully the permanent hairloss is something that could happen,  and won't happen to most women.   My Onc. told me he has never had a patient that this happened too,  so I am going to trust him.     I know it may be silly to worry about hair,  but not sure how i'd handle it not coming back ever.   I am trying to put my mind on other things,  and hope for the best.    1 week from today I will go for my 2nd treatment,   getting nervous about that too.    I have this weird twitching thing going on under both of my eyes that is starting to drive me nuts.   It switches from one eye to the other,  it's strange.     PhillyBird glad that the baking soda and salt rinse helped you out.    It worked wonders for me.  Smile    I hope you all have a great day!  
  • theatercat
    theatercat Member Posts: 58
    edited September 2011

    Got a call from my radiologist's office. They were told my  dr. says chemo my  will be done in november,she wanted to schedule my first session in december. To my knowledge I was supposed to follow up with taxol for 12 weeks. If my treatment has changed I was never told. I will will be elated if dr. says i am done with adriamycin/cytoxin and thats it. Will see dr. next week.

  • peachy-pie
    peachy-pie Member Posts: 201
    edited September 2011
    RoBo47,  the steroid causes the acne?   That makes sense now,  because my face broke out terrible,  and I am still having issues with it 2 weeks later.    Frown   I am at work at the moment,  and 2 of my customers who are also battling BC came in today.   One has been done her chemo for a couple of months now and her hair is growing rapidly.   So feeling a lot better now,  I have to stop reading certain things and making myself worry needlessly.  
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2011

    Peachy - good idea to stop reading horror stories and stick with reading our discussion group!  We aim to encourage rather than frighten! The eyelid twitch thing is definitely a SE that I get.  Prolonged steroid use and bad skin go together - just think of those guys who abuse steroids to bulk up!  You'll be fine though; better to get a pimple or two than to have edema from the chemo infusion.

    On the matter of SEs and the course of chemo in general - I now understand why people tell us that once you get through the first round the rest are easier.  It is merely because you will know what SEs you will get.  The mystery of your response to chemo is solved and the fear of the unknown is taken out of the equation.  But - what they don't tell you is that whichever SEs you get, come on sooner and with more intensity.  So for me, the eyelid twitching becomes really annoying and started while I was in the CHAIR last time - or maybe never subsided after number 3.  My puffy and sore mouth has lasted 9 days or so - it still bothers me and this is day 11.  Forturnately I now have my liter bottle of home-made special rinse (baking soda/salt water) - thanks Peachy!

    TheaterCat - that will be great if you're done with chemo and can go onto rads soon!

    Robo - I am sorry for your "loss" - I am sooooo bald too!  Even though I won't buzz it, it looks ridiculous and I wonder who that weird creature is in the mirror.  My husband says I am very cute though.  Smile  But - I have been wearing my wig a bit more to work and I really like it.  I am going to order two more wigs and have fun with them too.  I will stick with my skullcaps from Sparkling Earth for the gym and my jewelry making class, though.

    Frances - so glad you are breezing through - as always - you inspire me!

    LadyBoss - Thanks for the heads up about the brows.  I will be using my eyebrow pencil more then.  I found a nice cheap one at Target that has a bristle brush on the end cap, so after you pencil some on, you can brush the brow hairs that remain (if you have some) to blend it better.  Not sure what to do if they all fall out - Joan Crawford?  Might be a bit much.  Wink

    Have a great weekend everyone!!

  • theatercat
    theatercat Member Posts: 58
    edited October 2011

    Doctors office made a mistake,forgot to tell radiologist I had 12 weeks of taxol. I hope no. 3  of adriamycin/cytoxin is better than my 2nd chemo. I am stll so tired and listless. I am crabby, impatient and am having hot flahes. Before I go to sleep I am hot and then I wake up in the middle of the night with the shakes. It doesn't help that I have a 14 year old daughter who I don't even know anymore, my stress level is through the roof. Yesterday I had vomiting out of the blue. Thanks for listening.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2011
    I am so sorry Theater.  I'll be thinking about you.  Hang in there and feel free to vent. 
  • ladyboss1997
    ladyboss1997 Member Posts: 202
    edited October 2011

    Theatercat: sorry about the mix-up your docs had. I know it is tough to get your hopes up, then have them dashed. 14 year old girls are tough, even when you feel well. She is probably scared to death, and doesn't know how to handle it. It's all about self-esteem with girls, so anything you can do to up the self-esteem will push  her in a positive direction. Mother/daughter relationships are the toughest, but the most crucial one in a girl's life.

    Peachy: I agree, stay away from horror stories. You are behind all of us on treatment, so get the truth from us.

    I am ordering some Ovation Therapy scalp treatment this weekend. I am going to start working on hair return. My aunt started using it for thinning hair, and now she has a gorgeous head of hair. It did take several months, though.

  • peachy-pie
    peachy-pie Member Posts: 201
    edited October 2011
    I agree LadyBoss,  and thank you.  Smile   Tomorrow is the big day for me,  my hubby borrowed our neighbors clippers and will be buzzing my head tomorrow.   It's gotten to the point where it's falling out all over the house, and getting on my nerves.   So bitting the bullet tomorrow and doing what I need to do.  Smile   4 more days until my next treatment,  then i'll be 50% done!  
  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited October 2011

    Yeah Peachy Pie count down to the end!

  • peachy-pie
    peachy-pie Member Posts: 201
    edited October 2011
    Yes,  the count down till the end!  I am happy to think on Thursday it'll be half over!   My hubby just buzzed my hair,  I cried all the way through it,  but it is done.   My scalp is very sore,  but I was told that was to be expected.   It's strange seeing how different I look,  but if it keeps the cancer away it's well worth it.  Smile
  • theatercat
    theatercat Member Posts: 58
    edited October 2011

    Yeah to getting it buzzed. The day before I it buzzed  I stood in the shower and cried. Couldn't take it any more. It just came out it clumps. Still don't like looking at my bald head. I always wear a scarf in the house. I just can't get past it. Believe me my head is always sweating. Number 3 on thursday, more anxious about number 3 than number 1!

  • peachy-pie
    peachy-pie Member Posts: 201
    edited October 2011
    I also stood in the shower & cried yesterday.   I also cried before, during and after he buzzed it!   I have really thick hair,  so it seems like I still have quite a bit of hair on my head.   But I have bald spots where it is coming out in places more then others.   It feels so strange,  like my hair is up in a towel after a shower.   Going to work tomorrow morning will be rough.   But I am going to put on my make up and put on my new hair and hope no one says anthing to me.   LOL      So I'll be receiving #2 on Thursday and you'll be receiving #3!   You'll be 75% through this and i'll be 50%!   Yeah!!!    Praying it goes smoothly for us.   I'll be thinking of you theatercat.  Smile
  • rossileo18
    rossileo18 Member Posts: 245
    edited October 2011

    Peachy, yes going to work can be tough. I was so self conscious the first time I went wearing a hat, but now I don't even think about it, some people know. Some people probably don't even think about it. The great thing about having only four cycles is that each is a milestone, yes you will be halfway done in a few days. And then the next is your next to last. Good luck for next week.



    Theatercat, hoping things go smoothly this week and that you will have minimal SE.



    Had a pretty good weekend. 10 days after last chemo I finally went to a party and stayed out late. I'd been laying pretty low during most of chemo. Not enough energy to do anything but go to work. But finally some semblance of normalcy!



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