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  • Cathy_C
    Cathy_C Member Posts: 61
    edited September 2011

    Elizabeth: I did get more sleep last night and talked to the Onc nurse today just to clarifly all the prescriptions I am to take. She said for me to try the Lorazepam (which I got on Friday cause I felt anxious) for sleep if that doesn't complete ok to use Tylenol PM again, If need to do that call tomorrow and they will get me a sleeping aid. Well here I am at 12:51am and I am wide awake. But happy to report the other SE seem to be at ease.

     Rabbit: sending you good vibes to push out those SE.  

  • Paintingmywaythru
    Paintingmywaythru Member Posts: 317
    edited September 2011

    Going for a bilateral breast MRI now...feeling very nervous. Does anyone know how long it takes to get the results?

    Had a wonderful visit with our son at parents weekend in Bennington, VT. The state was ravaged by the rains though. Drove through a town where the center had been destroyed. The water was about 8 feet above the street level and moved whole houses down river...very sad....everyone was walking around the town taking pictures but looking totally stupefied. Wilmington, VT.....my oh my.

    best to all....will write more when I have a moment....love reading all your posts.

  • bcisnofun
    bcisnofun Member Posts: 488
    edited September 2011

    rabbit - so sorry you are having all of these SE's!  My heart really goes out to you.

    painting, I can't remember exactly the time it took to get my MRI results.  I think I had it late in the week and got the results early the next week???  So, maybe 3-4 working days.

  • J-Bug
    J-Bug Member Posts: 626
    edited September 2011

    Paintingmywaythru: My mri's have been taking 24 hours to get back. My oncologist has been doing them every two treatments to make sure that the treatments are working and appropriate for me.

  • dexxy
    dexxy Member Posts: 229
    edited September 2011

    Ok, so 10 days away is a lot to catch up on.  Sorry to hear about SE's and chemo related BullS**t! Congrats to those who have finished.  I thought of you all on my road trip and wished you could have been with.  I can not tell you how wonderful it was to be away where no one knew what was going on in my life.  I was still strong, and happy, maybe not as beautiful on the outside but more so on the inside.  All of those people I know from my travels had no idea and those I chose to tell were more supportive than even best friends.  Strange the things you learn in life.  I lifted, and moved furniture, I drove 2 trucks across the state of Texas, drank a margarita, ate barbque, steak and bacon.  drank a beer. laughed with my BFF so hard a pee'd my pants.  Met the nicest trucker on the road to was responsible for me laughing so hard. Went swimming in Arizona, visited with family.  And most of all THANKED EVERY DAY FOR BEING ALIVE!

    hugs to you all, start rads on Monday and will keep in touch

  • bcisnofun
    bcisnofun Member Posts: 488
    edited September 2011

    welcome back Dexxy!  Glad it was a wonderful trip.

  • Izzy325
    Izzy325 Member Posts: 59
    edited September 2011

    KHS- Oncotype is a special test. They usually send a sample of the tumor to that lab. It's very expensive and some insurance will decline it being covered. Most docs won't do this on someone who has already had tumor marks supporting HER positive like me but my doc wanted it to confirm how estrogen positive I am. The stats talk about the genetics of the tumor not to be confused with your DNA. Each tumor can come back with different results on the same person. Often docs order it to determine if someone needs chemo or just radiation etc. You can google it to get more details but it gives more of a quantitative result that some of the traditional tumor markers for ER PR and HER. I believe they tell you "others like you had a X% chance of recurrence" .... Specific to node negative people. They only order it if adds value to the treatment plan.

  • J-Bug
    J-Bug Member Posts: 626
    edited September 2011

    So as I am trying to grit my teeth through the bad days of Taxol pain and taking my antibiotic for UTI that popped up on Friday, today I discovered I definitely have thrush. So off to the pharmacy again, hobbling with my cane in hand. I can't wait until this work week is done so I can rest!!

  • rabbit
    rabbit Member Posts: 613
    edited September 2011

    Paintingmywaythru, best of luck for the MRI. 

    J-Bug,  my onco won't let me do another MRI until a few weeks before my surgery, once I'm done with all my chemo, and you get it so often, not fair, I want to know how much my tumor has shrunk!

    dexxy, sounds like you had an awesome time! Best of luck with the rads Monday.

    Hope everyone is feeling well, I am! I will post tomorrow what my onco says about the hand and foot syndrome, thrush etc. :) gotta love all the SEs I'm getting lately, a clot, woooohoooo

    love you all

  • misswim
    misswim Member Posts: 931
    edited September 2011

    Painting- we live 20 minutes from Wilmington, VT and lived there for 13 years. My husbands family owns a business in the downtown area and their building was condemned. I haven't had the heart to even travel up to see the devestation- I find myself so depressed by treatment and all that goes along with this experience I don't think I could deal with another heartbreaking experience. Irene had devestated the whole town, it is terrible. Glad you had a nice time with your son.

    Rabbit- you poor thing! Hope things get better.

    Dexxy-so glad you had a good trip!

    I am overall feeling ok, very, very tired. Taxol pain subsided but I am just sore all over. Have a follow up with the breast surgeon on Thursday. A little nervous as I am constantly thinking that there are lumps and bumps in my post mast skin- though I realize I am highly anxious all the time, will feel better to get the thumbs up.

    Have a great week. xoxo

  • J-Bug
    J-Bug Member Posts: 626
    edited September 2011

    rabbit: The way my MRI's have gone is after every two treatments. With 4 A/C and 4 Taxol, the first MRI of the A/C and then the first one of the Taxol each showed no change. But, the onco waited for the results of the MRI before continuing because he said that if he saw growth in the tumor, he would have changed treatments. So, as glad as I was to check on results so many times, two out of four of the MRI's showed no change - which is also hard to handle.

    I also have to spend the night taking Prednisone to prevent a reaction to the contrast media ahead of time. This forces me into being up all night from the energy level and keeping up with all the doses at the right hours of the night. So this MRI thing is not all its cracked up to be - for me anyway.

  • kk11
    kk11 Member Posts: 210
    edited October 2011

    Hi ladies - Like a magician, I pulled the disappearing act again....I've spent a while catching up....hope I didn't miss anyone.

    Ellenquilt - How has your sleep been the last few days? I still can't seem to make it through the night without waking up multiple times. It's getting old. I hope Tamoxifen isn't this bad or I may not even make it a year.

    Misswim - I would love to hear more about the Metformin trial. Is this in addition to Tamoxifen or in place of? I am looking for ways to get out of Tamoxifen, so tell me more after your appointment on Thursday! As for your recurrence risk, it sounds much lower than mine and I'm also a stage 2A (tumor was 2.5cm), grade 3, 0/6 nodes, but only 10% ER positive. I was told with just surgery, my recurrence risk was 60%. With chemo, it would be reduced to 30% and if I added Tamoxifen, it would go down to 20%. I'm thinking the biggest difference between us must be my age. I'm 28. How old are you? My oncologist, who is head of the department at Stanford said that in young women, being estrogen positive can work against you moreso than triple negative, but he also said that the Oncotype test isn't as accurate for pre-monopausal women and so he didn't want me to do it because it can tell you that your risk is lower than it really is (so insurances may not want to cover chemo) or even higher than it really is (making you go into extra treatments that aren't necessary). In my case, he knew he wanted to throw the book at it, so chemo was a definite. He also wants me to do 5 years of Tamoxifen, but I'm already planning a break after 2 years so I can have kids, as long as everything goes well.

    J-Bug - It seems like now that I have cancer, my eyes are now more open to anyone else who has cancer. I hope that woman's husband makes it through. A few weeks ago, I found out my 85 year old grandmother was diagnosed with colon cancer (Stage 3B) and just last Friday, I found out that my coworker's 63 year old husband was diagnosed with colon cancer (she called me the day of the diagnosis because she felt like she could lean on me after what I've been through) though they don't know the stage yet. When it rains it pours.  I'm sorry about you having thrush on top of all the pain. I hope it subsides quickly.

    Bcisnofun -I'm very sorry for the loss of your friend. Sometimes I truly feel like I don't have cancer and never really did. I never felt sick until after my surgery and during chemo. And then I hear about someone passing away from this disease and it puts me straight back into reality. Again, so sorry to hear about your friend.

    Frances - I didn't realize that you were dealing with your 2nd primary cancer. If you mentioned it before, perhaps I missed it? Or maybe it's my chemo brain. Do you know what your estrogen receptor status was in %? I'm 10% estrogen positive, so I wonder how effective Tamoxifen will really be when the other 90% of my tumor was basically triple negative. I'm not having radiation, so I can't offer much help there, but I would definitely ask your oncologist when he/she returns. I suppose it's better to over-radiate than to under-radiate right?

    Tina - Wow...pneumonia! You poor thing! How are you feeling today?

    Shinypop - You're 1/3 of the way done with treatment and nearing the halfway mark! Did you make it to the book signing?

    Rabbit - Bone pain sucks. I had the same problem with my nail beds being sore and tender. The first 2 treatments, it wasn't that bad as it didn't last too long. I was told it's only a problem if you can no longer button a blouse and I'm not at that point yet, but this 3rd treatment has hit me harder. I have numbness and tingling in my toes and my fingers now and it's 7 days out from treatment. Usually these issues are gone by now, but they're only getting worse by the day. Makes me worried about my final treatment and what kind of damage it's going to do to my neuro system. As for your GI issues, I hope you can get into to be seen sooner than October 26th. Are they crazy?!?! Can you look for a different specialist who may fit you in sooner? After all, you are going through chemo, so you don't need other crap right now. I'm sorry about those mouth sores too. I have been fortunate to skate by with maybe only 1 or 2 during AC and they didn't last very long.

    Khs113- Yikes. I hope you don't lose your nails, though I remember reading somewhere on here that some do lose their nails, eyebrows, and even eyelashes after finishing treatment. I hope you're not one of them. It seems unjust and cruel when we should be happy to be done, to have to worry about more pain and the loss of something else.

    Sandy - It may have more to do with dosage than anything. Misswim is right that it's based on your exact weight and height, but I don't believe they'll change the dosage until you have dropped 10% of your weight or more, at least that's what they said to me when I asked. Also, I remember when I was getting chemo for my molar pregnancy earlier this year that I sometimes was given different quantities of vials, but the amounts in each vial were also different, so the total dosage never changed. Where I get my infusions, the nurses ask me to verify the information before they start each infusion, so I get to read the labels and know exactly what I'm getting and that it has my name on it. Do they follow this procedure at your infusion center? As for getting second opinions, I think who cares about what your doctor thinks or wants. You deserve to be able to get one if you want. It's YOUR life! If your insurance won't cover it, you can always check to see how much it would cost you out of pocket and go from there.

    Cathy - I hear ya on all of those side effects. A/C would knock me out for the post part and now I can't sleep much since my 3rd Taxol treatment! Those hot flashes are killer!

    Elizabeth - Welcome to our group. I also have experienced more bone pain since switching from AC to Taxol. I've had Neulasta all along, so I don't think that's the culprit. The first day or two after my Neulasta shot, I am really tender to the touch all over my upper body and have trouble swallowing. The bone pain from the Taxol sets in about day 3 and it's shooting like you described. And I'm also not sleeping well, but only since having my 3rd Dose Dense Taxol, so I'm not sure why it only started now. If it's not the bone pain waking me up, it's the hot flashes!

    Yooper - You're down to 2 Taxols left right? Your succession of side effects seems similar to mine. I also get the heart racing, though it seemed better with my 3rd taxol, which was interesting, or maybe I've already wiped it out of my memory. I'm getting good at that! As for liver enzymes, since chemo can affect the liver (usually only temporarily), they do check these enzymes to make sure your liver isn't being overtaxed. A slight elevation isn't usually a cause for concern as far as I've been told and it can easily go right back down again. Have you asked your oncologist about it?

    Allenan - Thanks for popping in to say hi!

    Izzy - I think your motto is a good one. I have my moments of worry about recurrence, but I know I can only do my best to avoid it and from there, it's out of my hands. I think this may come a bit easier to me, because while I was the most impatient and in control person before my molar pregnancy nightmare, I had a long 6 month rollercoaster for that to learn that I can't control everything. 2 months after I was done with chemo for the molar pregnancy, I was diagnosed with breast cancer. Again, out of my control. I am trying to focus on some of the things I CAN control in life. It's not always easy, but I've had over  a year of learning to get me to that thinking.

    Paintingmywaythru - Usually radiologists will send the report over to the ordering doctor within 24-48 hours. I would call your doctor tomorrow afternoon to see if they have them yet. I wouldn't want to wait longer than needed. The flooding in Vermont sounds really bad. I know someone in Vermont who was fortunate not to get hit, but others she knows weren't so fortunate.

    Dexxy - Sounds like you had a fantastic trip! I am looking forward to going on one as well with my husband when I'm done with chemo! As for those supportive strangers, I have met a number of them myself and I am amazed by how much butter they "get" me and support me than some of my closer friends and family too.

  • kk11
    kk11 Member Posts: 210
    edited September 2011

    I wanted to post my update separately...I have experienced more neuropathy this time around. My fingers and toes feel like they are numb and possibly asleep. I didn't have it like this with Taxol #1 or 2. For those who are finished, did this get worse as Taxol went along?

    On a more personal note, I have been having a really hard time lately with knowing that my dream of children won't be realized for at least another 2+ years and maybe not at all. My neighbor delivered a boy yesterday and my baby (that I lost) should have been 6 months old right now. I've been angry, hurt,  jealous , and bitter. Today my husband and I went to the beach (I have to start up at work again tomorrow so the rest of the week is out) because it was a nice day and the beach has always been a soothing place for us. We were sitting in our beach chairs, eating our lunch, and a seagull came up to us. He appeared young and gentle and unafraid of us and he came really close, closer to me than any bird has ever been. He spent over an hour standing by us and looking at us and even chased other seagulls away in what appeared to be him trying to protect us. I told my husband that I thought if reincarnation was possible, then this must be our son coming back to visit.  He agreed and we decided not to throw the football around as planned but instead to stare back at this beautiful creature that seemed to know us.  It has been the most uplifting experience I've had since my diagnosis. I just hope it will be enough to get me through the next few years without kids.

  • Cathy_C
    Cathy_C Member Posts: 61
    edited September 2011

    Kristien: As I read along about your seagull I was thinking the same thing. Just making sure the two of you are ok. Those two years will go by faster than you can imagine. 

  • bcisnofun
    bcisnofun Member Posts: 488
    edited September 2011

    kristien - what a beautiful story about the seagull.  I can picture it in my mind.  I'm sorry you are going through such a difficult time.  I wish so much we all lived close to each other and could come over to give you a real hug. 

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2011

    Kk11- I had two tests done on my tumor. One was 10%ER +ve and the other 15%+ve. Onco said that even if at ER+ve2% and above they will prescribe hormonal therapy as studies have shown there are benefits in doing so. I have just had my zoladex jab today to push me into menopause. Met my rad onco too. He explained that he add superclav area because surgeons will only remove level 1 and 2 nodes and superclav nodes are too deep and they don't remove them surgically because it will cause swelling of the arm. Also I have 4 affected nodes and he doesn't want to take the risk of not treating superclav area in case of some errant cancer cells there. He was very reassuring, saying that with surgery, chemo and radiation and hormonal therapy, he is confident my chance of recurrence is down to 10%. So with my change in lifestyle and diet, that should take care of this 10%:)

  • ellenquilt
    ellenquilt Member Posts: 172
    edited September 2011

    Allenan -- I also have a problem with gas -- I feel like I need to have a cork in my bottom. LOL  I have IBS so my stomach is always upset -- usually pretty bad the first few days after chemo. Immodium Multi Symptom (in short supply, what's up with that?) usually helps, but then that dries out my eyes. The punctal plugs the opthalmologist put in made my eyes into Niagara Falls (1 in 250 get this problem, lucky me!) so I had them flushed out yesterday. Back to eye drops all day long again.

    Painting: Wilmingon was devastated, from what I've heard from friends. It makes me sad because I have so many good memories of being up there with my family (they all ski at Mt. Snow, I don't ski. But I shop...) and I loved the area.  So sad to see what's happened with the flooding.  Good luck with your MRI. Keep us posted.

    Dexxy: Your trip sounds fabulous! How nice to escape from all the BC stuff for a while and just go out and LIVE!  Good luck with rads! I'll probably start those some time after Thanksgiving.

    JBug: I wish you some good resting time.  It's hard to come by but so great when we can get it.

    Misswimm: Speaking of resting time, it's a real struggle for me to stay awake at work.  I'm good until around 11 a.m. and then i start to crash big time.  My eyes just close.  I could use some toothpicks to prop them open a la Clockwork Orange.  Ergo my fake eyeballs.  I think I'm going to start taking naps in my car in the middle of the day so I can make it through the afternoon.  Yesterday I visited school sites instead of coming in to the office and  I was able to go home early, and take a  two hour nap before going to the opthalmologist for the  plug removal.  I had enough energy after that to go grocery shopping, I have 14 coming for Rosh Hashanah tomorrow night.  All family, so I'll have a lot of help, but still, it requires some prep and planning.  

    KK11:  I'm still not sleeping great -- I fall asleep without a problem and can get three house before I start the waking up routine, then it's every  hour or so for the rest of the night.  Between the aches and the constant need to pee (all the water from the daytime has to go somewhere I guess) I'm bouncing up and out of bed all night long.  Some nights I just can't  get back to sleep, so I turn on the light, startling the cat who likes to sleep on my bed and who looks at me like "WTF? The dog isn't even up yet, what are you doing?"  I don't want to take any more pills, so I'm just doing the best I can. And falling asleep at work, LOL. Fortunately, my boss and my colleagues are very understanding and supportive.  As long as I don't snore or fall off my chair... 

    I also still have more palpitations than usual, which I'm attributing to a combination of the Herceptin, Abraxane and lack of sleep.  I just try to ignore it the best I can since it seems to come and go.

    I've been taking B6 twice a day for the neuropathy and it does seem to help -- my feet are better and my hands are almost unaffected.  Could be mind over matter, but I don't care, as long as it feels better.

    I'm so looking forward to the long weekend -- even with company coming tomorrow.  I figure everyone else will help with the setting out of plates and the cleanup, and my contribution is providing the space and a few dishes that I will cook.   My family usually contributes to the meal so all the cooking never falls on my.  Glad about that.  We will be squeezed into half a house. Looks like I won't get construction finished until around Christmas. All the contractors have been to the house, measured, assessed and are submitting their estimates to my adjuster, who will have to fight the good fight to get me the FEMA flood insurance money that I need to redo everything.  I'm cautiously optimistic that I can, like they did in the  Six Million Dollar Man, build it better than it was before.  We shall see. In the meantime, I have my 20-somethings sacked out in my living room on a sofa bed with their bags of stuff all over.  going to have to move that stuff around tonight to make room for company. LOL

    Hope everyone has a good day, with few or no SEs.

  • J-Bug
    J-Bug Member Posts: 626
    edited September 2011

    ellenquilt: Right before my diagnosis for about six months, I did nap in my van at lunch. I just put the drivers seat back as far as it would go, also reclined it as far as it would go and turned some oldies music on very low. I have a watch with an alarm on it so I knew when to get up. If I really couldn't sleep, I would switch the radio to some talk radio politics. Works like a charm!

    The place where I am working is a miniature city, over 5,000 people and parking lots for miles. No one cared and with the seat back, most of the time, no one saw me.  

  • ANA_424
    ANA_424 Member Posts: 109
    edited September 2011

    I feel like I have been away from you all forever, although I have continued to read your posts regularly. I'm on the upswing - feeling better all the time. I just have to be careful not to push too hard. I went to a yoga class again last week. Much better than the time I cried through the whole second half of class! It was much more low key. At one point, we did this arm swing thing and when we stopped she said to take a moment to feel the energy in your body - and I did. I realized I had not been paying enough attention to how I feel. I'd just been going along as if everything was fine. Not that it is bad - just need to conserve energy and rest when I need to rest. It's hard to be done and yet not be DONE.

    Finally got my exchange surgery scheduled. I guess I'm a bit of a control freak - can't stand not knowing what the plan is. Plus, I had family members waiting to make their own plans and I hate feeling responsible for delaying others. Anyway, it is scheduled for 10/28 and I'm both thrilled to be getting closer to being done with that and nervous about going through it, too. Makes me think about the time leading up to my mastectomy. Makes me cry even now to think of it - was such a difficult time. I was in shock and so upset. Not in shock anymore and not nearly as upset. Just kind of stirred up I suppose.

    kk11 - Loved your story about the seagull. Sounds like such a peaceful time for you.

    rabbit - so sorry about the GI issues/chest pain. Sounds miserable. About the hand and foot pain, I had some pain around my heels the last couple of treatments. Still not sure what that was about. Felt like very dry skin that was about to split, so I used Aquaphor and wore socks over it to help absorption.

    dexxy - What a great trip! Love hearing about you getting to have some "normal" time again.

    J-bug and misswim - Hope you both get some rest and energy again soon.

    ellenquilt - thank you for your ongoing entertainment. I loved the picture with the eyeballs on the glasses. I looked at it before I read your post and thought it was a little off, but could not quite tell why :-)

    I'm so sorry to hear about the aftermath of the flooding in VT. Nashville had a terrible flood in 2010, and I remember how devastating that was for so many people.

    For those of you dealing with Taxotere SEs (and maybe similar for Taxol), I also had some of the same things. Weird shooting pains, although not terrible for me. I did not get any fingernail pain until after the last treatment. My theory is that it is a delayed reaction from earlier treatments - just takes a while for the nail to grow out enough to show up. My liver enzymes were elevated the last two times - the last time I had avoided taking any tylenol or drinking and it still went up. So I'm thinking it is the chemo. Just hope that goes back down on its own soon.

    Hot flashes - ugh. I allow myself to take one Ambien a week. My doctors seem to be worried about me taking too much and I'm afraid they won't prescribe it for me again, so I'm rationing ;-). I get the best sleep on those nights, though. Otherwise, I sleep until 3 am (like clockwork) then am awake on and off the rest of the night with the hot flashes. It sucks. Although they prescribed Effexor for me, I'm nervous about taking it and want to talk to her more about it first. She said something about it making people sick when they go off of it and that scared me. I have a follow-up appt tomorrow so will see what I can find out. 

    Expecting to start Tamoxifen in the next few days - after the follow-up with my onc tomorrow. So . . . onward!

    Finally, before I turn this post into a book - a happy story. My boyfriend took me out last week - said he would arrange something but did not say what. We drove to an area I was not familiar with and ended up at a marina. We went to a huge boat that turned out to be owned by his brother and brother's partner. I had not met them before, so that was a surprise! We went on a beautiful sunset cruise on the river with champagne and snacks - to celebrate my being done with chemo. Everyone on the boat hugged and congratulated me. It was so thoughtful. He does the sweetest things sometimes :-)

    Thinking of you all and wishing you good luck on chemo and MRIs and radiation - oh my!

  • fightn4fam
    fightn4fam Member Posts: 48
    edited September 2011

    Hi gals,

    I have just finished my 4th round of Taxotere and Cytoxan.  My last round, I'm thrilled, although I did tell people I could not do the happy dance until the side effects disappeared.  I start RADS in October.  They wanted to start me on the 10th but I'll be away in Florida for a week, so I start the week after.  Tamoxifen comes in November.  I feel a little lump growing where my original tumor used to be, and it's scaring me a bit, but my hubby says it's probably scar tissue... let's hope.  When they took my tumor out, the surgeon said there were microscopic cells left under the skin and they could not take them out.  If they did they would be removing skin.  They explained to me that radiation will kill these cells.  I was diagnosed with ILC, grade 3 (aggressive/invasive), tumor size 2.7cm, 0/3 nodes.  I had a lumpectomy in May.  I had the Onco test and my chance of recurrence was 11%.  My Onc told me she'd rather see that number in the single digits and if I had chemo it would drop down to like 5-6% recurrence.  After, going back and forth I agreed to the chemo.  My eyes won't stop tearing and I feel like mush.  No energy.  So worn out.  Very restless.  I wake up a million times and have strange dreams.  As for GI problems, I had them bad.  My esophogus would contract so bad that I ended up at the hospital thinking I was having a heart attack.  My doctor gave me Nexium.  I highly recommend it.  My spasms have gone away with Nexium.  For the stomach cramps, I used Ibuprofen  600, worked like a charm.  I hope this helps.  As for the other, side effects, I'm still trying to figure out what to do.  I might just have to let it take it's course :(

  • shinypop
    shinypop Member Posts: 107
    edited September 2011

    Kristien- Sadly I did not go to the book festival. I didn't feel on top of the world and the weather was potentially rainy and cool. Even more sadly, it was a pretty nice day. ah well. On the book note, I think it would be cool if you read/re-read Jonathon Livingston Seagull. It will remind you of your day at the beach for many years to come. If you're at all interested in feel good books like that I also recommend I Heard the Owl Call My Name. It's old and might be difficult to find, but totlly worth it.

     As far as SEs from Taxol, I think maybe mine are reduced since I'm not doing dose dense. I'm doing weekly. I have some fatigue that I could probably work through if I pushed myself. I think I'm being too lazy. A superviser position that I have been groomed for has opened up and I hope I can prove that I have the energy to do it. Otherwise I'll be stuck again for a few years and I won't have that. 

  • misswim
    misswim Member Posts: 931
    edited September 2011

    Visiting with the breast surgeon tomorrow. Just a follow up but am having major pain with one of my implants. Onc checked it out today and thinks it is capusular contraction beggining and that is just what I wanted to hear. It's causing shoulder and underarm tightness and discomfort. I just can't catch a break. I had a total meltdown at the onc's office today after my weekly blood draw. I have two taxols left and am finding myself scared shitless to be done. I know I should be excited, but I feel "protected" by the chemo......I don't know if that makes sense.

    KK- I am 37, so about 10 years older than you, but still young in the BC world. I find what your onc has to say very interesting about the Oncotype DX being not as reliable for younger women. I like to er on the side of my stats, and I am hoping for the best. My recurrence risk haunts me. I am struggling to try to find joy in the moment instead of being terrified of my future and I just can't seem to find a happy medium. I have barely gone anywhere but work, home, the hospital and the store on occasion, in the last 5 months. I have isolated myself alot and I hope as I feel better, I'll get over that. I am starting to work with a counselor to help me accept the reality of my "new" normal. I just want my old normal back. The metformin trial is in conjunction with tamox. I hope to bring back some information regarding the trial tomorrow. I will be sure to report back. Your seagull story touched me. I lost a dear friend 20 years ago and I would find myself being followed by a single crow when I least expected it.......his parents did too, and still do. I had sort of forgotten about that and I visited his grave shortly after my dx, and there was a single crow sitting steps away from me the whole time I was there. I like to think he's watching over me. It helps.

    Ellenquilt- You crack me up. I had to show a co-worker your picture with the eyeballs. She kind of understood that that is how I feel, 24/7. I'm trying to work alot more, I am buried in work, and I just want to go home to sleep. But, then at night, I can't. I have recently added a 20 mg Melatonin tablet to my one Ambien and it gets me about 5-6 hours each night. The dosage of Melatonin is a therpeautic dosage- Memorial Sloan Kettering has done research regarding its efficiay in slowling growth of cancer cells in mice, particularly breast cancer cells.

  • Paintingmywaythru
    Paintingmywaythru Member Posts: 317
    edited September 2011

    RABBIT...With experiencing painful mouthsores I was put on diflucan for 7 days at the start of each chemo. I still got mouth ulcers on my tongue. Used a paste formt he periodontist that helped the most but it was hell and I am sorry you are suffering. I did all the right stuff too. I also have some red things on my palms and wondered about it but thing it might be psoriasis. This is weird. I don't have it on my feet.

    KK11....glad you felt close to your son....life gives us little gifts to hold on to. Such a lovely story.

    Starting rads tomorrow at the ungodly hour of 7:45 as no times at 8:30 or 8:45. I am NOT a morning person!!!

    Does anyone have a problem with dripping/running nose and stuffiness?

    I think it is the result of the TC chemo but wonder....thanks all.

    Susan

  • ElizabethInPA
    ElizabethInPA Member Posts: 20
    edited September 2011

    ANA...just a quick note...my experience with Effexor wasn't great. Any time I was late taking a pill, I got head spins . It gave me horrid night sweats as well, absolutely soaking wet. Going off of it was about 3 weeks of head spins, and electric jolts through my body. I would say it was effective, but the SE mitigated how good I felt on it.

    I'm on Wellbutrin now, and very happy with it. I did have problems with the various generic Wellbutrin out there, and finally I am on name brand constantly (rediculously expensive compared to generic, but worth it for my balance). But my onco told me that once I take Tamoxifen, Wellbutrin is off the list, and the only options are Effexor, Lexapro, and one other...maybe Celexa? Not looking forward to that.

  • khs113
    khs113 Member Posts: 105
    edited September 2011

    Hi Paintingmywaythru---Hope now that you're done with chemo that the mouth sores start to subside. I start radiation next week. I saw the radiologist yesterday and got fitted for my little body cradle as I lie on the table in a bathing beauty pose with my arm crooked above my head. Got tatooed (ow!) in four places so that I'm in the correct position each time I get zapped. They took a CT scan so they could see where all my vital organs are and don't zap them at all or too much. Next Wednesday they'll take some xrays and then I start 30 daily sessions of radiation. Doctor said I would feel about the same tiredness I do now and also prescribed a steroid cream to rub on the zapped area each night. He also recommended changing to a non aluminum BO killer because you can't wear regular deodorant or any creams to radiation. Non aluminum is probably the better way to go anyway for alot of reasons.

    Misswim---Totally understand your feelings of finishing chemo. As crappy as it is, it felt like a safety net. Something you could imagine was killing all those errant little cancer cells. I'm trying not to revisit the statistics and numbers. My goal to getting back to normal or the new normal is to add one more activity, chore, exercise each day. Just push myself the tiniest little bit. Melt downs are good. Crying is therapeutic. Tears get rid of those toxins. If anybody has the right to be down and weepy it's us.

    Frances recommended rosemary oil and jojoba oil applied to the scalp and says it really promotes healthy hair regrowth. Smells good too. When I washed and rinsed my scalp last night I could still see some little hairs that came out. Can't believe I'm still losing hair!

  • rabbit
    rabbit Member Posts: 613
    edited September 2011

    hi everyone, checking in for a bit. I'll copy and paste what my onco said yesterday:j

    Today I saw the oncologist for my blood work, my white count is 1400, very low, but expected on this chemo. He wants me to be on antibiotics starting day 5 of the rest of the treatments, so 3 more times after this one. He also stated the he did not think it was hand-mouth syndrome, which is a virus, although the hands look a bit like it should, my feet were mostly red and inflamed all over, where as the syndrome is patchy spots. He feels that it's directly related to the docetaxel, he said he sees this exact type thing in another chemo that I am not on...never on docetaxel has he seen it, but he's sure it's just a reaction from the chemo and it very well may stay with me until end of November when I'm done, UGH are you fricking kidding me!!! Like I don't have enough to deal with LOL.

    Basically all I can do is keep my hands and feet really moisturized, and stay off my feet as much as possible, there goes my walks :( hopefully it will subside in between treatments or possibly go away for good.

    paintingmywaythru, I have either a runny, drippy nose (assuming it's from no nose hairs and everything just pours out)  or a stuffy, dry and sometimes bleeding nose LOL so I know exactly what you mean, there is no in between (normality) for me with it!

  • rabbit
    rabbit Member Posts: 613
    edited September 2011

    wow, my interview is online:

     http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-679495

    pretty cool :)  

  • paulamati
    paulamati Member Posts: 43
    edited September 2011

    hello girls hope you all are doing okay, for those who finished chemo HURRRAY for you!!!..im almost there too, yesterday i had my 5th session, one more to go and after radiation.I just hope the SES are not so bad like the 4th one , that was the worse so far, nausea, vomit and lack of energy :(.

    Rabbit to bad you are having such a bad time with docetaxel, for me has been kind of nice, just a little pain on my finger nails, but nothing major, hope you feel better soon.

    Frances C glad to hear that your radiation went well, I'll be there soon.

    Paintingmywaythru yep the dripping/running nose is the result of TC, same thing happen to me..its annoying.

    Wishing you better days without SEs!!

  • ellenquilt
    ellenquilt Member Posts: 172
    edited September 2011

    Rabbit, very impressed with your interview! You are a star! 

    I'm having some difficulty keeping up -- poor focus I think -- and I'm also making dinner for 14 tonight.  Fortunately, my kids have been helpful in cleaning up (cleaning service came early this morning, thank goodness!) and setting up and my youngest is in the kitchen prepping food now so I can rest.  

    Rabbit: You have been having a horrible run with SEs, I hope something lets up for you so you can feel better.

    My two SE's fo the Week are....tada....exhaustion (not new, but still hanging on) and diarrhea.  Lovely that.  Plus there is a shortage of Immodium Multi Symptom so I was lucky to find some at BJs where I had to go to get a folding table for tonight since my other folding table was a flood casualty and needs disinfecting.  Not in the cards for today. Got to talk to the onc about the stomach problems.  They add to the exhaustion. I am trying to stay well hydrated though. Lots of water, tea and soup.  I think I'm going to start scheduling a one hour nap every day at work in my car (on my calendar and everything) since my boss emailed me today and was worried about how tired I was all week and wanted to know what she could do.  Naptime would help the most.  AFter a decent nap I'm good for a few more hours of whatever.

    Which brings me to the subject of Melatonin -- I'd like to know what everyone thinks is the right (or almost right) dosage.  I'm only taking a tiny amount 3 mg and it doesn't help that much.  I see that missswim is taking 20 mg. I woudl love to get  or 6 hours of sleep.  I'm at 3 right now and that isn't working out so terribly well.  I'm going to bring it up with the onc tomorrow for discussion. I think I need more. Either that or the cartoon guy with the hammer who can hit me over the head until I see stars and go unconscious for a while.  

    I'm rambling.  Definite case of chemo fog brain here.  Happy New Year to those who celebrate and a great weekend to everyone.  Tomorrow is Day 10 of 13 in my weekly Spa schedule.   Getting close to a schedule shift and closer to radiation. I wonder if it's better to get it done before work early in the morning, or at the end of the day.  Suggestions? 

  • Paintingmywaythru
    Paintingmywaythru Member Posts: 317
    edited September 2011

    Rabbit..loved seeing your pictures and reading your story. I think we all need a place to tell our stories.

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