April 2011 chemo

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  • pawprintgirl24
    pawprintgirl24 Member Posts: 173
    edited September 2011

    sarah sweety mine is doing the same thing! it is thinner on top and kinda looks like grey carpet very thin carpet!!you sound very positive since your surgery! good to to hear!! warrior on....

  • sarahlou1967
    sarahlou1967 Member Posts: 153
    edited September 2011

    Hi Pawprint 

    I try to be as positive as possible, whilst in hospital I got talking to the other patients all of which were not being treated for BC but for other womens problems gyno etc. Most were elderly ladies having hysterectomys. One lady in her 70's told me the story of her friend who was a nun all her life and developed BC the nun had her breast removed but refused the lymph nodes and said she would pray for the nodes, that was 22 years ago, another lady had BC in 1985 and is still here to tell the tale, and was having an operation that was completely unrelated to BC. These storys gave so much encouragement especially the nun story, I have been sort of beating myself up about developing BC that it must of been something I had done and that its all my fault, but the nun never drank, smoked, or even had sex!! she was vegetarian and exercised daily yet she still got it, this gave me a sort of epiphany and I realised this was not my fault, I had not asked for this, I was not a bad person and that I have to rise to the challenge it presents and fight, something we are all doing every minute of everyday we are all fighters.

    Keep strong and keep going

    Love and light

    Sarah Sweety xxxxx 

  • profbee
    profbee Member Posts: 858
    edited September 2011

    Oh Sarah, this is my biggest pet peeve of late.  I HATE that we continue to search for answers in our own behavior for this epidemic.  We blame the things we ate (when if that's true, then let's blame the FDA and the food industries for feeding us poisons), we blame stress (as if we cause our own stress!), we blame our family histories (as if there's anythign we could have done about that.)  Let's just try to accept the fact that this just happens to people...one in eight women...there's NOTHING WE DID!  I am blameless in my cancer, and I don't care how many devil dogs I ate.  :)

    Love and light back to all of you totally innocent women (well, in regard to this anyway..lol).  

     Heading down for my first AC treatment this morning!  Ack!!! 

  • artiecat
    artiecat Member Posts: 257
    edited September 2011

    Strong words, profbee - thanks. Do great with this treatment!!!!!  Hang tight!

  • sarahlou1967
    sarahlou1967 Member Posts: 153
    edited September 2011

    YAY Profbee my ephiphay has only just happened hence why I mentioned it, I could not of put it better myself when you say how you hate that we blame ourselves, well so do I and no more will I be asking those questions. I think it only a normal response to the dx to question yourself, but I am now 7 months down the line with chemo and surgery behind me and looking forward, the healing process can now really happen with a clear conscience focusing on the future.

    Feeling a lot better today, even went out picking wild damsons to make damson gin.

    Love to all

    Sarah Sweety xxxx 

  • KiwiMum
    KiwiMum Member Posts: 704
    edited September 2011

    Good luck Profbee. I hope you are one of those ladies who rock through. Me, I had to take all the nausea meds and more. We found a cocktail that worked for me. My advice to other ladies I've met who are starting AC is to take everything. Don't wait until you feel you need them. You are now 25% of the way through. Thinking of you.



    I too continue to question what I did to cause this or why didn't I find the lump earlier? I agree it's a waste of energy. Focussing on beating this monster is a much better use of my energy.

  • artiecat
    artiecat Member Posts: 257
    edited September 2011

    Okay - life is fluid, right?  Get out your magic 8 ball!
    Just got home from appt with the medical oncologist.  She had the results from the PET scan I had last week.  The scan appears to show (read that they are guessing) that there are "treated bone mets".  In other words, last spring when I had the original tests and bone biopsy the bone mets did not show up and now the chemo has resolved them.  So, they are now saying that I am stage IV rather than stage IIIc.
    Med onc admits confusion.  She will consult with the surgeon and the radiation oncologist and they will decide what to do next.  She is suggesting that they not do surgery and probably not chemo, but most likely radiation.  The immediate treatment (which really is chemo) is that I will have to go in once a month from now on (apparently forever!) and have two injections. 
    So I am on hold for a while.  I am grateful for all of your support. 

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 3,047
    edited September 2011

    My house was broken into and my computer stolen today. Right now I am posting from my son's.

    I may be out of the loop for a bit.

    Articat, I am sending white light your way, Hugs.

  • profbee
    profbee Member Posts: 858
    edited September 2011

    I totally agree that it's normal to question WHY, but it seems to often we land back at ourselves for the answer.  I hope we can all be better to ourselves as we move on, but yes...I agree that it seems to be kind of a stage you almost have to go through.  

     Artie, here I am full-glass reading this--so does that mean that the mets are no longer there b/c they are "treated mets" and chemo resolved them or does that mean that they're hanging in there despite treatment?  Lots of love to you!  You've been doing so well.  You got this.

    Merilee--that SUCKS!  JUST what you need!  ugh.  I'm so sorry.   

    My first AC today went well.  I just took 2 Ativan to go to sleep so hopefully I won't have to deal with any nausea until tomorrow!  :)  They sent me home with 3 different pills and a shot to give myself..fun.  Fingers crossed that I'm one of the lucky ones!  

    Oh gosh...and how could I forget?!  First fill today.  I'm going to have an awesome rack!  :)  Smiling like crazy. I told the doc that I wanted them bigger than before and he said, "Oh, they  will be bigger than before."  :)   My son even noticed and asked if he could snuggle up on them.  I let him lay his head on my breast gently.  Then the little curious bugger pulled down my tank top really fast for a look.  ugh.  I grabbed where the scars were and told him that's not nice and my boobs are private, but he must have gotten a good quick peek because he said, "Mommy, you don't have those pacifier things."  Nipples!  LOL!!!

    Love to all!  g'nite. 

  • artiecat
    artiecat Member Posts: 257
    edited September 2011

    Yay Profbee!!!!  Merilee - so srry!  Ugh, just what youy needed!

    Oh - treated mets means the chemo resolved them!

  • profbee
    profbee Member Posts: 858
    edited September 2011

    So, yay!  Resolved!  That's wonderful!!!  I mean, the shots sound cruddy just because it's a continuing protocol, but you can do that--once a month.  Ha!  Lots of love, C

  • geocachelinda
    geocachelinda Member Posts: 223
    edited September 2011

    Ladies, there is a very powerful  movie coming up next month on Lifetime about breast cancer.. It is called Five.  Check your local listings!  Looks to be excellent!

  • geocachelinda
    geocachelinda Member Posts: 223
    edited September 2011

    Artiecat with I could give you a big hug right now.. Hope they get things straightened out!  Profbee ask for Emend.  Worked for me wonderfully!

  • scc218
    scc218 Member Posts: 163
    edited September 2011

    Artiecat -- resolved mets sounds good, although I'm sure that was scary to hear.

    Profbee -- hang in there.  Hoping for no SEs for you!

    Merilee -- I am SO sorry about your house and computer.  What a huge bummer right when you DON'T need it.  Well, you never need it, but GEEZ!  So sorry.

    Geocache -- Thanks for the info on the movie.  Will have to check it out.

    I had Taxotere #11 yesterday.  One more to go next week. Then we hope to take a trip in our RV for a month before rads.  I'll still have to work, but it will be nice to "get out of dodge." 

    The constantly watering eyes, the really sore fingernails, and the screwed-up taste buds are getting really annoying to me.  I hope they all resolve once chemo is over.  Hair is slowly (very slowly) coming back.  I have a fair amount in the back, but the top and sides leave a bit to be desired.  I think I'll still be wearing bandanas for awhile.

    Hang in there everyone.  Thinking of you all and sending hugs.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    Wow, it's been a madhouse on here while I've been gone!

    Artie - how scary to learn that you had mets, but it's also amazingly good news that you zapped 'em. I know the key with mets is getting them to respond, and yours sound like they ran screaming and shriveled right up.

    What does it mean now that you are not going to have further surgery? I know they said they didn't get clean margins - do they no longer worry about that? I'm glad for your sake the surgery is behind you and you can focus on healing the whole system now. We will support you every step of the way.

    Sarah Sweety: I am glad your surgery was such a success. It's amazing how scary it seems to get your (excuse me) BREASTS CUT OFF!!#@$!!! but then when you actually get the surgery, it's a relief how easy it actually turns out to be. Thank God for modern medicine. Can you imagine doing these surgeries in the 1800s???? (They actually did mastectomies back then, too. *Shudder*) We are in such good hands with our capable surgeons and sterile facilities, and drains, and other modern advances.

    Merilee: I think having your HOUSE BROKEN INTO!#$@$#%!!! and then your COMPUTER GONE THROUGH!!!! is right up there as a massive violation with having cancer invade your body. What jerks would do such a thing? The one consolation is those guys generally wipe the hard drive, which is different than if say, your catty sister in law got ahold of it and read all your files. Do you need funds to get a new computer? If so, we can all pitch in and get a fund for you.

    Profbee: If you're like the rest of us, you'll be down for the count today after getting your first AC yesterday. I hope they gave you lots of anti-nausea meds and you are resting peacefully. If I can give you some advice (Pawprint girl, too) look into taking Hawthorn and CoQ10 to protect your heart from long term AC damage. My heart function actually IMPROVED through this whole process (my ejection fraction went from 50 to 60) and I owe it to these two supplements.

    Sarah246: It sounds like you and I are in the leaking misery boat together this week. My brain has been fried, and it sounds like lots of you is fried, too. The gums bleeding may be low platelets, which I also have had a bad case of. Try eating sesame, it is supposed to really help. You can eat tahini, halvah (yummy sesame candy, if you can find it), or just munch on a few tablespoons of sesame seeds whenever you think of it.

    Sorry if I missed anybody. I'll be back with an update on my own recent disasters when I get a second wind.

    Hugs all around!

  • artiecat
    artiecat Member Posts: 257
    edited September 2011

    Thanks all!

    BTW, I had really low red counts several times - the nurse practitioner  recommended something called "Floradex" which I bought here in San Diego area at Henry's or Sprouts.  Better than having to get a transfusion! And it really helped with the tired muscles.

    Tax is horrible, no question, Suzy. My tearing eyes got much better in about a month.  My taste is much better but it does take time.  My nails didnt hurt or ooze, but they act differently - are tougher and thicker and look wrinkly.  

    Time, time, time.

    Yes, windlass - it was scary to her avbout the bone mets - I really dont know how to feel!  Am very glad I didnt her this last spring - would have been very very scary!

    We are all doing great - 

  • BernieEllen
    BernieEllen Member Posts: 2,445
    edited September 2011

    Hi to all, as per usual trying to keep up with how you are all doing.

    Sarah246 i had nose bleeds, the nurses said it can be a sign of getting run down, low wbc.  Up the red meat and veg.

    Profbee, keep on top of the AC, I ate, drank and slept when my body told me to. Emend for the nausea.   

  • Tssheps
    Tssheps Member Posts: 13
    edited September 2011

    Hi Ladies.

    I started a/c cocktail Monday...so much nausea...trying to keep ahead of it with meds, small amounts of food and liquid...UGH! Does anyone else have runny nose? My hemoglobin dropped between surgery and chemo so I had to have two units of packed red blood cells on Wednesday... tough day! I have been walking a bit everyday. Trying to rest and recoup before round two. Bless you all.

  • profbee
    profbee Member Posts: 858
    edited September 2011

    Hey, friends!  I'm popping on for an important question.  So, my first AC was Wednesday.  I've been taking all the meds religiously.  I'm tired, but no nausea at ALL.  Does that mean I'm good or is it coming?  I heard something about Saturday maybe not feeling well, but damned if I can remember with all the stuff I was writing down, etc.  Thoughts?  

     Thanks friends!! 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    Hi, Profbee: With Emend I had no nausea from AC aside from the first night. In fact, the second day I felt well emough to get up and even do some computer work. No nausea at all aside from that first night.

    One thing to look out for though is that your immune system may be very fragile, so don't go out where you will be exposed to germs, avoid "cultured" and raw foods, sushi, etc. I unthinkingly ate cheese and yogurt after AC and actually got the culture growing in my throat later. (Gross, I know.)

    My biggest problem with AC was getting sick with colds and infections and then being unable to stop coughing horribly for 6 weeks. I was really sick with a continual debilitating cold. I wish I had been more careful with germ exposure through that time.
  • BernieEllen
    BernieEllen Member Posts: 2,445
    edited September 2011

    Hi profbee.  After 1,2&3.  No nausea no stomach problems but taste changes, had chemo day and the next day off work.  Fuzzy head right from the start, didn't last long.  No4 totally different.  Lots of mania and upset stomachs - severe chemo head, toe nails fell to bits - isn't even supposed to happen with AC.  No 5 the same.  No 6 floored me and made me very emotional, just getting over it now.  BUT it's totally different for everyone, doesn't matter who you talk to, never two the same.  

    I think it was you who told me about the epsom salts, working a treat. 

    Keep smiling, sweetheart.  Thinking of you 

  • BernieEllen
    BernieEllen Member Posts: 2,445
    edited September 2011

    Tssheps, nose still annoying me.  Thinking of you also sweetheart

  • KiwiMum
    KiwiMum Member Posts: 704
    edited September 2011

    Yay Profbee. Great to hear no nausea. On my 1st AC I was nauseous right from the first night and it lasted until day 5. On the next 3 no nausea as we changed/upped my nausea meds. I was very tired and out of sorts. I also got headaches from days 4-6



    I have a Taxol question. I've completed #11/12 - last one is Tuesday! This last few days I've started getting quite large red lumps on one side of my face that I thought were pimples. Today they now look like blisters and are quite painful. Has anyone else had this? Did they go away?



    I'm also very tired and over it. I can't believe chemo is done in four days time. My rad onc called yesterday and I am booked in to start rads 3 weeks after chemo ends. Week 1 - I have a 2 hour appt for rads staging. Week 2 - I am having my port out under a local anesthetic. Week 3 rads. Gosh I thought I was going to get a break but seems not.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    Kiwimum: Wow, finishing chemo and getting your port out? Congratulations!!!!!

    Remind me again, did you get 4 AC and 12 taxol? Your stats are so similar to mine. I am sending you tons of love and warmth across the great Pacific. (I know it's not NZ, but I was in Sydney last summer, so I have a sense of where you are :)

  • profbee
    profbee Member Posts: 858
    edited September 2011

    Thanks all---so far, still so good on the nausea.  Woo hoo!  

    Kiwi--I had awful zits when I was on Taxol and Lapatinib.  I never know which drug causes which SE.  They called it an "acne rash" and my mom said, "Oh my God, you look like you have chicken pox!"  They gave me oral antibiotics and a topical thing too--it helped.  I thought it was the WORST of the SEs.  Bald with horrible zits.  Great.  They said sun makes it worse too--so stay out of the sun!  I know just what you mean about being busy.  I thought the month after the surgery and before AC was going to be all social and fun--not so much.  It went so fast!  And I guess I underestimated recovery.  This damn cancer stuff just fills the time!  But I'm so happy for you that you're moving forward and ending chemo!!! 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2011

    I got awful nose zits from taxotere. They're gone now, but I go back Wednesday for more.

    Glad to see you up and about, and so chipper, profbee.

  • profbee
    profbee Member Posts: 858
    edited September 2011

    Oh, and thanks everyone for the AC advice.  I'm so glad that I'm not feeling nauseated.  I was dreading that but trying to remind myself that at every turn each challenge has been easier than I expected it would..not easy, but easIER!  LOL.  

    Bernie--yes, glad the epsom salt is helping the nails! 

  • artiecat
    artiecat Member Posts: 257
    edited September 2011

    Carla, thanks for the list!  You are awesome to have done this for us!!!!

  • Sarah246
    Sarah246 Member Posts: 53
    edited September 2011

    Hi all!

    Artiecat: It must be a pain. Hang in there. Sending healing lights.

    Merilee: Sorry about your computer being stolen.

    geocachelin: Thanks. I plan to check out that movie.

    Windlass: Yup, we're in the same misery boat together. Misery loves company. I went for blood tests because I thought my platelets were low. But the blood test came good. And thanks, I will try to find Sesame and some yummy candy.

    Bernieellen: Thanks. I've been feeling run down. Maybe that's why the nose bleeds.

    Tssheps: Sorry about the nausea. I'm trying to start a walking program on my treadmill.

    Profbee: Glad to hear there's no nausea so far. My problem right now is my left breast is still swollen? It's much bigger than the right breast and my left arm is numb and painful. The other thing is that I saw on the TV that radiation on the left side breast can have an affect on the heart for ten to twenty years after getting it. Plus I had heart attacks before and wonder if I should get the radiation. I'm going to be talking to my doctor about it, but would like to know what you guys think.

    Well wishes to all. Hope everyone is having a great saturday!

  • profbee
    profbee Member Posts: 858
    edited September 2011

    Sarah, they did an EKG for you, right?  Yes, I've heard that radiation--and in fact the chemo too--can affect our hearts.  But they should be doing some testing on you.  I would think especially with a history of heart attacks!  Sheesh.  Man, all the choices we have to make through treatment are just exhausting. I have no advice, but I'm sure that you'll feel better about the decision after you talk to your doc.  Take care! 

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