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So I couldn't continue with the cold caps when I had my 2nd FEC treatment the other day and was wondering If there is anything I should do to prepare for when my hair falls out, Do I need to get some sort of oil or cream?  Does it hurt? Should I shave my head early or wait to the last minute?? What will my scalp look like??  

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  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited September 2011

    This is a personal choice for you.  There is no right or wrong.

    I waited until my scalp was hurting really bad - felt like I had a too tight ponytail in it for 24 hours and felt immediate relief when I had my head shaved with clippers.  That morning my hair had started to fall out in clumps if I ran my hand through my scalp.

    To make it easier on me I had my hair cut short right before starting chemo so that I could get used to a different look as my hair was midway down my back.'

    I never got the "shiny" scalp look and it all depends on the shape of your scalp as far as how you will look when you are bald.

    I did buy 7 wigs - all different shapes and colors so that I could find some sort of positive thing about losing my hair and yes....I had fun with my wigs especially the really long ones.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited September 2011

    Like Janice says, there is no right or wrong way to do it. I got a great looking wig and shaved my head the second a couple of strands fell out. To me, it was important that I made the decision, cancer didn't. I used Nioxin shampoo and conditioner for chemically treated hair (because your scalp is being chemically treated from the inside out) all the way through treatment, even when I didn't have hair, and my hair came back nice and full. I looked like a wrestler or escaped convict, so wore my wig whenever I was in public! One of my  friends said that she always wore a stocking cap, even in the house, because her head was always too cold. Since I was HOT having no hair actually made me feel cooler.

  • marial
    marial Member Posts: 255
    edited September 2011

    My scalp never hurt..I cut my hair short before I started chemo. After my second AC chemo it stated to shed..I waited about 5 days and then decided it was time..It looked horrible..called my husband at work and said tonights the night..bought a new shaver and sister came over..we had a dew drinks,and my husband shaved it to a qtr inch..luckily I never had the pain..I did biymy wigs before I shaved it so I didn't have to go while I had no hair

  • NWArtLady
    NWArtLady Member Posts: 360
    edited September 2011

    Bella, I had long, waist-length hair and it was tough when it began to come out. When it begins, it falls out quickly!

    What I decided to do was to go to my regular hairdresser (who is awesome) and had planned on just getting it shaved.  She talked me into cutting it really short in a cute haircut and I am so glad she did!  It was still falling out, but it was not as noticeable at first and I had a cute haircut for almost a week.  Once the short hairs were getting in the way (on my pillowcase, etc.), I decided it was time to take the shaver to it. My husband used his bread trimmer and we cut it close cropped to my head.  Can I say there is a part of me that likes it? Surprising! But after years of long hair, it is so easy to care for now!  We did use the trimmer because we did not want to risk shaving it and getting a cut that could get infected.  The trimming was sensitive and we had to take it slow as my head had some sensitivity.  But it was OK and still is. The sensitivity has since gone away.

    I have since gone on a cute hat spree and have a few inexpensive wigs. I work in an art college so I went to a costume shop and bought myself a blue wig - the students love it! I got a wig cap to wear under it because I find wigs to be itchy. Otherwise, I wear my cute hats as it is getting to be chilly here in Seattle. I would go bald if the weather was warmer as I found my head to be a good looking one without hair, we'll see if the weather will allow.

    As for caring for my bald head, I attended a session with the American Cancer Society and they told me to just use conditioner on my head. Shampoo can be harsh they said, so all I do is rinse, condition, and rinse again. So far so good.

    Hope this helps.

  • marial
    marial Member Posts: 255
    edited September 2011

    Oh ..one thing to add, I used a baby wash by aveeno for my scalp all during chemo..I was looking for something gentle and without fragrance..and ended upon the baby isle..it worked out well for me..and one bottle lasted the whole 6 months of chemo..I was so happy to throw it away once I was done..but it served me well

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited September 2011

    Go to a 'Look Good, Feel Better' session, which is run by the American Cancer Society. Not only do they show you how to use make up to your best advantage (and give you several hundred dollars of high quality makeup for free), they also show you tips on wearing wigs, cute caps etc and how to make fun headwear. There are hats you can buy with bangs so it looks like you have hair, even when you don't. 

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited September 2011

    When my hair fell out, my head got a little prickly feeling, it sort of hurt, my brother got me a silk pillowcase.  Eventually the feeling went away.  I went to a wig store especially for women with cancer, they would say so in the phone book.  I got a very soft night cap in my favorite color, and I wear it all the time around the house.  I also got a stretchy-material already-made scarf affair for when I go to the grocery store and casual activities like that, just wish I had bought two, and it's so easy to put on and takes care of the situation.  I also have a really cute hat that I wear as often as the scarf.  I only wear my wig when I go out to eat or something special like that, but it sure looks good, but can cost right much... some cancer clinics have a bunch they can give away to you.  My hair is now just starting to come back in, a kind of shadow, and it itches I assume from the hair.  But whenever I shower now, which I HAD been using my regular Dove soap on my head because it's so convenient, I now see what the others have said here about shampoo and conditioner might be a better solution now that my hair is coming back.  I just put my regular lotion on my head like I do the rest of me.

  • sewingnut
    sewingnut Member Posts: 1,129
    edited September 2011

    After my DH clippered my hair to 1/2" it still continued to fall out but at least it was short!  The thing that took me by surprise was the little red itchy dots (folliculitis) that came afterwards. I continued to use Nioxin shampoo on the hangeroners that never fell out. Now at 4 months PFC it can't grow fast enough for me  =:0) 

  • Forever_mummy
    Forever_mummy Member Posts: 16
    edited September 2011

    was anyone shopping there? http://stores.tophairwigs.com/StoreFront.bok

    with 200$ covered I feel it's a joke.

    can I still go to 'look good...' after first chemo I needed almost 2 weeks to feel able to drive, although going out, where is a crowd is terrifying me.

  • marial
    marial Member Posts: 255
    edited September 2011

    Yes, you can go to look good feel better anytime during your treatment you feel able ..when I went I hadn't started chemo yet, there was one person who had one treatment, and two others that were several treatments in. I also got a nice wig from the local ACS chapter, and bought another from a local womens boutique specifically for cancer patients

  • Birds
    Birds Member Posts: 67
    edited September 2011

    I wasn't expecting my hair to come out when I was in the shower.  I thought I would wake up one day and there would be a lot on my pillow.  I had a very short haircut anyway but I was very surprised that it happened that way.  My hairdresser had already offered to buzz me when it was time.  It was 8:00pm on a Sunday, but she met me at the salon and cut me down in 3 stages, made me look in the mirror after each stage and then got it to the GI Jane shortness.  This worked very well to prepare me.  About a week later, even the little GI Jane hair was gone.  My picture is the day after the buzz cut.  I had 5 or 6 wigs, which I had bought ahead of time.  Mostly, I wore turbans and at night a sleep cap.  The wigs were way too hot and they irritated my scalp.  There were a few days when the little tiny buzz cut hair was coming out, that it itched a lot.  I used aquaphor all over my head and it helped, but it was messy.  When my hair started to grow back, I bought an infant hairbrush because a real hair brush was too hard.  I just used soap on my head instead of shampoo.

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited September 2011

    I went to my hairdresser when my hair starting coming out in clumps, and she helped my kids use the shaver and give me a mohawk!   It had been really hurting and tender for a few days right before it started coming out, and my kids thought it was hysterical to pull handsful of my hair out.  It sucked for all of us, but having some fun with it eased the misery some.  After the mohawk, we just shaved it off and it felt wayyyy less tender.

    If I had it to do over again, I hope I could be more mentally comfortable wearing a scarf and ditching the wig.  My wigs were awful, but I guess some are better and more comfy. 

    Best of luck!

  • Leah_S
    Leah_S Member Posts: 8,458
    edited September 2011

    Bella, as you see everyone does it differently! I didn't buzz my hair. Most women do it either because they feel more in control or for comfort. I felt that if I were to shave it before it fell out I would be giving in to cancer instead of dealing with things as they came.

    However, for me there was a very BIG difference. I am an Orthodox Jew so for religious reasons I have been covering my hair since I was married so I didn't have to worry about how it looked. My hair had been long before chemo and I had it cut shorter (about ear length) when I started chemo so it wouldn't be too messy.

    I always use Dove soap and that's what I used on my scalp during chemo. When I started rads I was told to use baby soap so since I only had the barest bit of fuzz I used that on my head too.

    I started a thread called "wig advice" which is pinned at the top of the chemo forum. I put lots of stuff about buying wigs, taking care of them, etc, and loads of women added good advice, too. You might find it helpful.

    Best of luck with the chemo.

    Leah

  • DiDel
    DiDel Member Posts: 1,329
    edited September 2011

    I never shaved my head either...I just couldnt. I did cut it short right before starting chemo. It was shocking out fast and furious it was falling out. When it started "shedding" I stopped washing it in the shower to preserve it a little longer. Jancie described the scalp pain exactly how it felt. It only hurt for a couple of days. I took my hair dresser/friend with me to buy my wig. I got a real hair wig which I loved and it was not cheap. I got it longer than my real hair was so it lasted longer. My stylist cut and colored it throughout the time I wore it. I wore my wig from April till November when I got my comfortable with my short hair. By January I totally ditched the wig. Since it was summer time I wore scarves at home all the time but never went out in public without it. i just wasnt comfortable.

    Another good thing to get ...for when your eyebrows or lashes fall out ..if they do. I used Anastasia Eyebrow kit. It includes stencils and powder that stays on even in hot steamy weather.

    Good luck for the rest of treatments...hang in there!

    Diane

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited September 2011

    You can do 'Look Good' anytime during treatment. I did mine after chemo while doing radiation (I wish I had done it sooner as I learned alot of good tips that would have helped eariler too). You can do it even if you 'just' have radiation.

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited September 2011

    RUTH, I had misread your post, I thought you had said, "You CAN'T look good anytime during treatment."  Hahahahaha.  Actually, that is sort of my own thinking!  Lots of smiles, GG

  • anonymice
    anonymice Member Posts: 532
    edited September 2011

    In terms of discomfort, you don't need to cut your hair or shave your head until it starts falling out.  Jancie's description is perfect - a too-tight ponytail - but in my experience the discomfort stops as soon the hair is cut or shaved.  I would wait until it starts falling out, because it doesn't always, but that's just me.

    But!!  I do recommend this, very highly:  as soon as you get rid of your hair, get eyelash extensions.  Big doe eyes makes bald look beautiful!!!  I think most of us do get thinning eyelashes and brows, but generally quite a bit later than the hair on your head - 5 months later, for me. 

  • Birds
    Birds Member Posts: 67
    edited September 2011

    If you are a woman with a faint mustache, don't get your hopes up, my hair fell off my head, arms, legs, but not my face:-(

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited September 2011

    I got my hair cut very short (like about 1") right when I started chemo- DD AC/T.  When I got that "too tight ponytail" feeling and the hair started to fall out, I had my DH buzz it down to about 1/4 inch one evening at sunset on our patio.  I used a lint roller to clean up the loose hairs for a few days until the fallout stopped.  I have "chemo white stubble" over most of my scalp, unlike some who are truly completely bald.

    My eyelashes and eyebrows held up until I started DD Taxol.  I have about 3 lashes left on each eye and a hint of eyebrows.  I've got one Taxol left. 

    I didn't lose all my hair anywhere else.   I have no armpit hair, a bit of arm hair remains, had to shave my legs twice, and about half the hair in the nether region remains.

    It's so different for everyone, just like all the other SEs.

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited September 2011
    I was looking forward to my very first brazilian wax job.  Alas - the hair left in the middle and stayed on the panty lines.  I got ripped off big time Yell
  • anonymice
    anonymice Member Posts: 532
    edited September 2011

    Psheer, the chemo seemed to *give* me granny hairs on my chin and lip, I guess from my (very brief) "chemopause".  

    Jancie, that truly sucks, but it's hilarious!!  

    I never went bald anywhere, but had sparse slow-growing hair - until I started Taxol from A/C, then my hair took off like a shot and grew WAY faster than normal.  I was very happy that I didn't have to wait for chemo to end to start getting hair back.

  • Forever_mummy
    Forever_mummy Member Posts: 16
    edited September 2011

    LOL

    I see it can't get better. Shaving legs! That's what I want the break from.

    I hope only the first chemo is so bad. I needed 2 weeks to be able to go out or drive. I can't imagine half year like this!

    And now I start to have bone pain because of neulasta. I mean pain. Not the one ‘like growing'.

    Yesterday I had mri called skeleton imaging, because they know, they may expect me not be able to walk. Now, that's the reason to pull your hair out. I'm saying you should do that in public until you have the chance ;-)

    Anyway, everything was so fast, so many appointment and tests, and looking after 5y old I never shopped for the wig. What I see in Ottawa in ‘a local women's boutique specifically for cancer patients' (they have web sites thanks God) are horrible prices! Are they making money that way? That's why acceptable looking wig prices start at 700$? I don't have that. I don't want that as I don't plan to keep the wig. And insurance generously is giving $200. That's why I'm thinking on-line. If I have 3 for about $100 something has to look good?

    In my scarf every second person (at least) is looking with pity at me. The last thing I need.  

    Thanks, I'll try to coordinate my schedule with teaching sessions schedule.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited September 2011

    I let my kids cut my hair every day for a week.. shorter and shorter, ending up in a mohawk which lasted about 2 hours.  it was kind of fun.  Being bald is unusual but not that bad.... i wore baseball caps and scarves and only wore my wig twice.  It's a great way to educate people ... people were so sympathetic and nice to me.

    May your hair return quickly.  Mine has.  It seems it was years since I was bald but in reality only a couple years.  Sorry you have to go thru this.

  • K-Lo
    K-Lo Member Posts: 2,743
    edited September 2011

    Make sure you only buy a wig from someone who measures your head! And get lots of soft cotton scarves.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited September 2011

    I think of going out in a ballcap as "playing the cancer card."  You get a few sympathetic looks and many people become aware.  Last night we were in an Italian restaurant having a pizza, and it was chilly in there.  Another couple came in after us, and said something to the waiter about it being too cold.  She pointed over to me and said she knew that I was cold.  Turns out she did the BC chemo thing last year.  We chatted for a few minutes, and I noticed her hair had returned quite well.  She did say she struggles with the curl every day. 

    The back of my neck gets really chilly - gonna have to start wearing scarves around my neck for protection...lol!  Winter is going to be a real challenge!

    Michelle

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited September 2011

    Forever-mummy - I tried putting on a scarf here in the house, and DH and I both thought it "screamed" cancer patient.  So while I already had some nice ones that would have worked, I have not worn a scarf on my head.  I wear my wig when I don't want the knowing looks, and my ballcaps or newsboy caps when I don't care so much.  I never liked wearing ballcaps because I felt it made my hair look like Bozo...lol.  I have somewhat curly hair but it was never long enough to pull back in a ponytail which I think would have been ok.  Anyways, the bald head solves the problem and the hat look on my bald head is better than I expected. 

    Michelle

  • anonymice
    anonymice Member Posts: 532
    edited September 2011

    I bought two of my wigs from that TLC catalogue from the American Cancer Society in the 200-300 range, and they were both quite pretty.  

    Of course, after a few weeks of trying wigs and hats and scarves, I just walked around bald (actually there was sparse fuzzy gray stuff but you couldn't see it really).  It IS wearing the cancer card in general, but frankly I didn't give a rat's @ss, I hate anything on my head except hair.  I had people flirt with me, I had many smiles, and I had several women who were obviously wearing wigs ask me questions about going "topless".  Many people admire you for walking around bald, it's as simple as that.  It says that you are confident, it says that there is no stigma attached to you and you don't have to hide your head.

    Having said all that, I did it because stuff makes my head itch.  LOL  Seriously, I have always disliked hats.

    But the point is, as much as it's *not* ok to lose your hair, which we all really do understand, you don't have to worry about it.  You can let it go, let it be, and roll with this.  You can wear a wig, a scarf, a hat, hats with bangs, or go bald and it is all ok.  It really is.  

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited September 2011

    FOREVER, I got a hat with a brim maybe 4" wide, and it's white with a floral material in one of my fav colors, with a little tie in the back that hangs down a few inches, I just love the ease of wearing it and have received many compliments.  So, since scarves aren't your thing, a neat hat might work sometimes.  Also, I have a soft blue night cap I wear at home when my head gets cold, it looks like a toboggan affair, and I'll tie one of my scarves around the outter edge of it to dress it up, and it looks really good, too. 

    I wanted to mention to all, that "the style" these days is to wear scarves around the head, to shave heads and wear earrings (and piercings), so I remind myself of that when I put on a scarf thing.  Now I just need to get that trucker tattoo on my arm I've been wanting, a heart that says "Mom."  Smile.  GG 

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited September 2011

    I loved my soft sleeping cap that I wore at night.  It was very thin material so the heat could escape out of my scalp.

    I kept it which is good because now I use it to cover my head when I deep condition my hair and don't want my dh to see me with a shower cap on. Laughing  I put the shower cap on first and then the soft sleeping cap.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited September 2011

    I never wore a scarf because pirates are a big thing here in Tampa (Gasparilla Festival, Buccaneers Football, pirate ship moored downtown, the list goes on...) so I always felt like I was dressing up like a pirate and it drew more attention than I was comfortable with.  I went to the grocery store last night with nothing on my head, my hair has full coverage but it is less than 1/2 inch.  Some people smiled at me, but a lot seemed unhappy, which was interesting.

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