New Here and to LCIS
Hi Everyone!
I was recently diagnosed with LCIS. When my bs gave me the pathology report from my core biopsy, I am telling you the only thing I saw on that paper was the word "Carcinoma"...man talk about scary! I do not have a strong family history of bc (paternal grandmother) but my gut is telling me that a mastectomy is what I want to do. My breast surgeon discussed risks/benefits with me and told me "I support whatever decision you make"...he did however ask me to speak with an oncologist regarding drug therapy and also a plastic surgeon to discuss the details of reconstructive surgery...I plan to do this to allow me to make the most informed decision for me, but am still leaning toward surgery. My husband is supportive of my decision as are my children.
Anyway that is my story...it was so great to find this site and the wealth of information that is here.
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Welcome, Maryellen! I'm sorry you are faced with these decisions, but this is the only place I know where you can 'meet' other people with LCIS.
I'm so glad that your breast surgeon seems open to whatever you choose. (My breast surgeon's first words to me, upon entering the room, only knowing I had LCIS on a core biopsy, were 'If you want bilateral mastectomies, I'm going to fall down in my chair.' She repeatedly told me she didn't want to do any further surgery on me after my excision.)
I'm not saying I would have chosen BPMs, but I would have liked to have all the options open to me.
**If** you do NOT choose BPMs, many (not all) docs suggest a breast excision, because roughly 10-30% of women who are diagnosed with LCIS on core biopsy have 'something worse' - i.e. DCIS or invasive - when they have an excision. They excise around the area, because LCIS is often found not *at*, but *adjacent to * the lesion that prompted the core biopsy. (I had maybe 2 tablespoonfulls taken out at my excision.)
You have plenty of time to examine all of your options and make your decision. (It took me 3 months to get my initial appointment with an oncologist, so its possible it may take you some time to get all your consults.)
I would encourage you to get all the consults you need, and all the 2nd, 3rd,etc additional opinions you need to make your decision.
I am glad you seem to have plenty of family support. Its your body, and everyone should respect that you need to make this decision about your body, no matter what your choice.
So, welcome! I'm sure there will be others along shortly to provide lots of support no matter what you choose.
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Leaf,
Thanks so much for all your kind words...LOL...I did guess I forgot to mention that I did have a excision...important piece of info to leave out. The results were, and I quote "Lobular Carcinoma In-Situ arising in partially hyalinized fibroadenoma". It further stated there was no invasive component present and all margins were free of malignancy. All things considered good news!
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maryellen-------As Leaf said, there is no rush to make decisions----since LCIS is non-invasive, you can take whatever time you want or need to research, get 2nd opinions (if you choose to) or just let it all sink in. I was diagnosed with LCIS 8 years ago and my risk is further elevated by my mom's ILC, but even with that combination of factors, I still haven't had PBMs. It's an extremely personal decision, one which you have to feel really comfortable with, since it is irreversible. I took tamoxifen for the full 5 years and now still take preventative meds (evista); tolerated both meds well with minimal SEs. I alternate mammos and MRIs every 6 months and have breast exams on the opposite 6 months. Not a choice for everyone, but works well for me. It's good you are seeing both an oncologist and a PS, then you can get all the pros and cons to both the surgical and medical approaches.
Anne
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Thanks so much Anne...you are right I am still letting it sink in...so many decisons...but in looking thru this website....I am so very blessed, we truly are the lucky ones that have the time to make these crazy decsions.
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I second everyone's suggestion to take your time, do your homework, and reflect on the best avenue for you. In my case, I had multiple findings of LCIS in both breasts, and with a seriously bodacious family history (mom, her two sisters, their mother and their material grandmother), well, I just needed to say goodbye to this risk, even though I was found to be BRCA negative. So I did have prophylactic bilateral mastectomy, with d.i.e.p. reconstruction at the same time. Pathology found zero malignancies in the sectioned breast tissue, so to me it's a huge victory that I took care of it before it happened.
I took several months to research and decide on my reconstruction choice, and during that time --11 weeks-- I worked out like crazy with a personal trainer, aiming at strength, stamina, and a sturdy heart. That paid off in droves in terms of health for the long surgery and especially recovery (I'm 8 weeks out and feel GREAT), which brought minimal pain and surprised everyone, especially me. I am 57 and was a total couch potato when I started, but found fear was a powerful motivator to keep me on track. Now that surgery is over, I'm itchin' to get my surgeon's green light to get back into my fitness routine. Bottom line: Do your homework, and unless you're already a triathlete or something, include a serious commitment to fitness in that homework. Then no matter your decision --mastectomy or not -- you'll be a healthier person and kick diagnosis-related stress's butt. Good luck in your decision process. --Carol
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Carol,
Thanks so much for the great advice. I do excerise regularly however bumping it up to give me more strenght and endurance is a great idea...plus it would probably help to keep my mind on the positive..you know feeling like you making something happen...rather than worrying about what is going to happen.
Glad to hear that you are doing well! Keep up all your good work
Maryellen
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I agree with Carolwith regard to exercise. I started exercising after my May lumpectomy which found ADH in addition to LCIS anD ALH found on stereotactic biopsy. At that point I decided that I needed to do SOMETHING and gettingup every morning and walking and eating healthier was my solution. Four and half weeks ago I had a hysterectomy and had my ovaries and tubes removed as well and being in better physical condition as well as dropping some weight made my recovery from surgery much easier.
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If you look at the research published by Dr. Kathryn Schmitz at Univ. of Pennsylvania, she's been studying the impact of strength training on breast cancer survivors for years. It's all a plus, including demonstrating that strength training after cancer surgery can actually help prevent lymphedema, which is commonly held to be a risk that's made worse by lifting. This is useful to any LCIS person considering mastectomy. If you google her name, you'll find all kinds of good things to read about.
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Welcome Maryellen. You've gotten great advice already here. I'll only add that I did have this surgery for pleomorphic LCIS earlier this year and am very happy to answer any questions you may have. Like you, I had a pretty strong feeling early on that I'd go this route but made sure that I was on the right track by meeting with a few plastic surgeons, breast surgeons and oncologists. I also met with a medical social worker who helped me sort out my feelings which I highly recommend. All the best, Kelly
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Carol, important to keep in mind that there are protocols that go along with the post-breast cancer strength training that Katie Schmitz uses. This must be started (or re-started if you were already lifting before treatment) very slowly and gradually, not straining your arm. If your arm feels heavy, tired, achy, tingly you need to stop at once, rest and elevate it. The next time, stop a bit earlier and work up very gradually. Staying very well hydrated can help too.
Recent research shows that early indications of stagnant lymph fluid in the arm or chest/breast (even before any swelling is visible or measurable) include feelings of heaviness, aching, tingling or "just feeling funny." AND that evaluation and intervention at that stage helps to prevent progression and makes on-going self- management much easier. Since lymphedema is chronic and for life, that's an important piece of information to keep in mind. So if you notice anything like that, a referral to a well-trained lymphedema therapist for evaluation is indicated, and any willing doctor on your team can write it for you. Here's how to find a well-qualified lymphedema therapist near you:
http://www.stepup-speakout.org/Finding_a_Qualified_Lymphedema_Therapist.htmMore lymphedema risk reduction guidelines here:
http://www.stepup-speakout.org/riskreduction_for_lymphedema.htm
http://www.lymphnet.org (see their Position Papers, right hand side of the page)
Be well!
Binney -
Welcome! I had a pbmx for lcis in May. I knew immediately it was what I wanted, and have not regretted it at all. I have an anxiety disorder and didnt want the constant worrying and waiting for the sword to fall. My breast surgeons (i did go for a second opinion) both told me all the options and supported my decision. My mother did have invasive breast cancer in her 70s and my maternal aunt died of ovarian cancer in her 60s, so there were some other risk factors involved. My surgery went well and i recovered quickly. I did not have any reconstruction. My follow up is to see my gyn. annually, and my breast surgeon annually. Take your time, and the right decision will come to you. We are here for you! Nan
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Thank you everyone for all your kind words, thoughts and good wishes. You gave me lots of good information (so glad I found this website). I will keep you posted with what is going on as I move forward. You ladies are great!
Thanks,
Maryellen
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Nan,
What made you decide against reconstruction. I think I am leaning that way. I would be very interested to hear your thoughts. If you don't want to share that is fine as well of course...its just when I mention that people look at me like I have lost my mind!
Thanks,
Maryellen
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Thank you, Binney, your points very well taken on precautions on the exercise and the need to see a qualified LE therapist.
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Nan, one of the women here ("Erica"/Barbara) created a website to help women with the question of no reconstruction. It has a section of stories by women who have either chosen not to reconstruct or had their recon fail and find themselves having to deal with no recon anyway. It has pictures of what an unreconstructed chest looks like and how clothes look over it. And it has reviews of breast prostheses and mastectomy bras, camis, lingerie, swimwear, etc. Really comprehensive, and it's been a big help to me in finding products that work for me (bilat mastectomies, no recon, chest and arm lymphedema). It's here:
http://www.BreastFree.orgHoping you'll find a path that feels just right for you!
Binney -
I was diagnosed with pleomorphic LCIS and DCIS both at the same time and in the same breast. It was all very confusing - my BS said it made it complicated. Basically he said having them both at the same time of diagnosis wasn't great and basically" forshadowed " getting some form of cancer in the other breast so I went for the DMX. I do wonder at times if I made the right decision. At the time, I couldn't find much information on LCIS. Anyway saw this thread and thought I'd ask. Thanks.
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Thanks so much Binney...I will check it out!
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Mary Ellen, i just wanted as little surgery as possible. AllI care about is being healthy. I had already gone through a total abdominal hysterectomy only 8 months before my pbmx. It will sound really weird, but i didnt care about having breasts at all. I Am 57, and just want to be here for a lomg time for my 12 year old son and my husband. Honestly, i don't think most people notice I'm flat. And it's nice and comfy without a bra. When i am done losing weight i might get some foobs. Hope this helps! Honestly, I am a little over 4 months from my surgery and i barely think about it much. I am just so thankful to be healthy. Nan
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Binney, thanks. I love that website! When I'm done losing weight i will head right there if i decide to get foobs. Nan
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Nan,
I totally hear that! I have a granddaughter coming in a few months and what my goal is to dance at her wedding. I am not at all concerned about not having boobs. I am 56 years old, and I, like you am only concerned with living a long and healthy life. Thank you so much for sharing! It means the world to me!
Maryellen
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Maryellen, you r so welcome. Stick around! I wanna hear when the grandbaby is born! Nan
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