What is considered early stage?

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ck55
ck55 Member Posts: 346

I was just wondering if anyone knew what stages are considered "early stage"?

I would guess most Stage I and Stage II's are early stages. But are there any Stage III cancers that would fall under that category? Just looking for whatever positive spin I can get. Frown

Thanks, Cyndi

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  • Jules59
    Jules59 Member Posts: 207
    edited September 2011

    I think of early stage as 0 or I  (maybe some stage II).  I'm not trying to burst your bubble, because I myself am stage III.

    I remember the day I was diagnosed.  My breast surgeon did an ultrsound that showed my tumor and 2 enlarged lymph nodes.  He sent me down the hall (in the breast center) to get a biopsy with a piece of paper in my hand that said " locally advanced breast cancer".  My heart just sank.Cry

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited September 2011
    According to www.womenshealth.gov 0-IIIA is considered early stage.
  • ck55
    ck55 Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2011

    Thanks for the link Specialk. That is encouraging! Smile

    Cyndi

  • Jules59
    Jules59 Member Posts: 207
    edited September 2011

    Well, maybe I am early stage, after all.  That makes me feel a it better.

  • Ellie1959
    Ellie1959 Member Posts: 316
    edited September 2011
    I've heard both early stage and locally advanced - Cool
  • slousha
    slousha Member Posts: 312
    edited September 2011

    Dear Stage III sisters,

    Dxed in 2009 I was said I'm Stage IIA, according too NCCN BreastQuidelines 2011, I'm Stage IIIA because of high nodes number .

    Greetings

    Usha

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited September 2011

    One of my onc's used the term "early stage bc" in our initial conversation, and I actually stopped her so I could clarify what she had said.  Looking back now I'm not sure if she misspoke as I don't think my stats would jive with that.  Locally advanced is what I have come to accept.  Not great, but not mets, so I'll take it thank you!

    Sharon

  • Katarina
    Katarina Member Posts: 386
    edited September 2011

    If you have angio-lymphatic invasion present at IIIa it's not early stage. That changes the game for IIIa folks. 

    I think positive attitude, outlook and spiritual connection makes early vs. advanced meaningless; at least it does for me.  I hope it does for all of you too.

    Hugs,

    Kat 

  • ck55
    ck55 Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2011

    Wouldn't all Stage III cancers have lymphatic invasion since, by definition, Stage III A-C have lymph node involvement? Undecided

    Cyndi

  • anna4969
    anna4969 Member Posts: 86
    edited September 2011

    ck55

    Great question as I would wonder this also.  I know I had lymphatic invasion big time. 

  • GrandHillMom
    GrandHillMom Member Posts: 179
    edited September 2011

    Angiolymphatic invasion is not the same thing as having lymph node involvement.  I was bilateral, and had lymph node involvement on both sides, but had angiolymphatic invasion only on the side that was staged IIIB (other side was staged at IIA).  It means the cancer has invaded the blood vessels or the lymph vessels (not the lymph nodes). 

  • ck55
    ck55 Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2011

    But wouldn't it have to have invaded the lymph vessels to get to the lymph nodes?

    I am so confused!

    Cyndi

  • lauri
    lauri Member Posts: 267
    edited September 2011

    Or some oncs use "early stage" to refer to anything that is NOT Stage IV ... I like to think of mine that way.

  • kathleen1966
    kathleen1966 Member Posts: 793
    edited September 2011

    I think yes, it would invade the lymph vessels to get to the lymph nodes. 

  • ck55
    ck55 Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2011

    I looked at my path report last night and it said "lymphatic/vascular: probable lymphatic invasion present". Sounds pretty wishy-washy to me.

    I am guessing that meant that they did not see it but assumed it was there because of the positive nodes?

    Cyndi

  • GrandHillMom
    GrandHillMom Member Posts: 179
    edited September 2011

    I agree it is confusing.   Angiolymphatic invasion means that there are cancer cells in the blood vessels or lymph vessels that are located in the breast tissue (including skin of breasts--that is part of inflammatory breast cancer).  Node involvement means that there are cancer cells in the lymph nodes outside the breast.  Although it would make sense that there would be cancer in the breast lymph vessels when there is cancer in the lymph nodes outside the breast, this isn't always the case, at least to the extent that it would show up on a pathology report.

  • faithfulheart
    faithfulheart Member Posts: 544
    edited September 2011

    I like to believe that we are not a stage,  we are women that got a disease. The disease was removed by surgery, chemo, rads, and anything else that was thrown at us. The rest my friends is out of our control, early or not. Try not to loose sleep over these fine lines of early verses late,

    just trust your docs, and live, just live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    God bless you all,

    S

  • IllinoisNancy
    IllinoisNancy Member Posts: 722
    edited September 2011

    I have Stage III breast cancer and my nodes are all clear.  I don't have IBC but I had ILC on the skin of my left breast.  That is why I'm Stage III.  Mine looked like 2 tiny bug bites.  This ILC is really tricky stuff!!

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