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  • khs113
    khs113 Member Posts: 105
    edited September 2011

    Welcome to the group Yooper and Triple Negative comrade. By Yooper does that mean you're also a fellow Michigander? It sounds like they've been throwing everything at you chemo-wise. Sorry you're feeling so bad. How many more rounds do you have left? My last one is on Wednesday and can't wait to get it over with. Radiation follows 3-4 weeks later. My issues have been with the Nulasta shots and the steroids but have leaned how to medicate the bad days and taper the steroids. Every time I think I can't be more tired and run down WHAM! I looking forward more to a few weeks from now more than the last chemo. Best advice is listen to your body and rest as much as you can. With four kids at home that's got to be a challenge.

    Paintingmywaythru===Talked to my onc today and still got the no MRI or scans. Just a mammo in December. She said that since I'll be seeing my radiologist every month and then the surgeon and her,alternating every month that if anything unusual comes up then they call for tests. She said the assumption is that the chemo and rads have knocked everything back, and that tests without apparent symptoms usually are negative, even with TNBC. I've sent in a question to the Triple Negative Breast Cancer site asking for the protocol recommendations and will let you know what they say when I hear from them.

  • dexxy
    dexxy Member Posts: 229
    edited September 2011

    Hoping this week finds you all feeling well, and/or getting through the SE's.  All of you that started taxol.  I did 4 rounds of TC, and had lots of muscle pain.  Almost felt like growing pains and my feet! oh my feet.  From what i understand and I can attest to is that this come from our livers not being able to detoxify the poison fast enough.  We all know our livers have been working over time and those of you that just finished AC you're livers are just tired.  So here's what has worked for and I hope it can help you all for future treatments.  Water, Water, Water.  Especially those 3 days after treatment.  I know it tastes bad, I add splash of 100% pure blueberry juice, ( blueberries are great detoxifiers).  No greasy foods, soups with veggies work well.  Walk, Walk, Walk.  If you can get one day of 40 minutes where you break a bit of sweat, it really helps get it out of your system.  Last, baths.  Here's the key, 1/2 cup of hydrogen peroxide, 1/2 baking soda, 1 cup of salt.  Add to bath water, before you get it, I know this sound weird, using a loofah, washcloth, whatever works, brush over skin towards the heart for a minute.  Then get in and soak for 20-30 minutes.  You can do this everyday if you have time.  Trust me, it helps a ton!  For sure the day after treatment. 

    I'm here for you guys waiting for  you on the other side of the finish line.  #3 was the worst, #4 mush easier.  Chin up girls we are going to kill this disease

  • paulamati
    paulamati Member Posts: 43
    edited September 2011

    This 4 round od TCH kicked mevery hard this time.I have been in bed for 3days , no energy and joint pain..I also had a little bit of nausea, for sure more than the others 3 rounds..so SEs sucks this time...i just wanna feel normal again.Plus my friend in Chile died last night after battling this stupid Cancer for 3 years...at least she is nos suffering any more,so sad for her little girl that now is without a mother..please pray for her and her family.  

  • ellenquilt
    ellenquilt Member Posts: 172
    edited September 2011

    Paulamati, I'm so sorry to hear about your Chilean friend passing.  So hard for her little girl. This disease sucks rocks.  I hope you bounce back from the bad SEs quickly.

    dexxy: Water is the answer you are  right.  I like your bath tip.  Now I have to figure out if I want to take a bath as I'm a lifetime shower girl. Any fixes for showers?

    Welcome Yooper!  The allergic reactions to the premeds and the  chemo can be nasty.  I was allergic to Taxol and  had a similar reaction to yours from that -- high blood pressure, palpitations, bad back pain,  nausea, etc.  I'm off Taxol and on Abraxane (another Taxene that uses a human protein to bind instead of Cremaphor, which is what I seem to react to)  Also, we do a really slow infustion now.  You might want to ask about slowing it down as well as reducing the premeds if you can tolerate the chemo with less.

    Always worth a dialogue with the docs.

    I'm dragging my ass at work today since I was up in the middle of the night  again for two hours.  Up between 2 and 4 and then able to sleep from 4 until  5:15 when my alarm goes off. Ugh.  I'm trying to hand on until 4 pm so I can put in a full day.  At least it's all in the office so I'm not having to run around driving and parking all over the city.  I'm not looking forward to those days at all.  I may have to Skype more and put in less face time at my schools for a while.

    Going to buy me some melatonin today and give it whirl to see if it helps me sustain some decent sleep during the night.  I can fall asleep but once I wake up it's hard to fall back asleep again.  I never had that problem before.

  • ANA_424
    ANA_424 Member Posts: 109
    edited September 2011

    ellenquilt - love the story about buying the car. I so admire people who can confidently negotiate for what they want. I was quaking in my boots when I bought my last car, although I think I did ok on the price. It helped that I did not like the salesman at all ;-)

    rabbit - good luck on resolving the clot issue. I know that must be uncomfortable and frustrating. I'm so glad you had so many nice birthday celebrations, but I don't know how you keep going! I've been spending the vast majority of my time on my sofa lately.

    Cathy - hoping the Taxotere is not too hard on you. I do think it is probably easier than AC. It's just that you are already kind of worn down. Take it easy on yourself and get plenty of rest.

    J-bug - so sorry to hear you are in pain. I hope you are able to treat it successfully and get over that part soon!

    Yooper - welcome. I've found it so helpful to be part of a group that is going through similar things. Take care of yourself and we'll be there for you in any way we can!

    paulamati - I am so, so sorry about your friend.

    I'm on day 5 PFC. Working from home and planning on doing very little the next couple of weeks. I just got an email from a friend who said she is home with a stomach bug and so glad she did not come to visit me yesterday as she might have done. Reminded me to keep away from all the germs in the office. I'm in the home stretch and don't want to screw it up now.

    I can feel my mindset starting to change. I've read two novels in the last two weeks, after not being able to get through a book for months. Feels like a sign of healing and moving on. The end is in sight. The one I just finished was Ann Patchett's new book - State of Wonder. Kind of an odd premise but a nail-biter in the end.

    My best to all of you as we start a new week :-)

  • Paintingmywaythru
    Paintingmywaythru Member Posts: 317
    edited September 2011

    Izzy 325 what is your immune thing?

    I have rheumatoid arthritis and think tht has played havock with a bit of my treatment mouth sore wise. I wish I had been in a better place to self advocate from the start because I beleive my symptoms  could have been reduced. Oh well.

    I am not messing around with rad centers. Thank you 

    Ellenquilt and Izzy for your comments and anyone else. Going to MGH tomorrow and just steeling myself for the regular drive. I too hope the center is open late becuase of my work. Plus I hope we can get our house ready for sale in the right time line....feel there is a lot on my plate. And my spouses.

    kk11...hating the neulasta shot effects right now...in the long bones. I feel liek taking a percoset and going to bed.  Yeah to you that your last treatment is comingup. I haven't done the psot chemo dnace yet...no energy!!!! Stick to your convictions with work. You have rights and I think those need to be pointed out. Would your human resources be of help? Sometimes they can be really good at intervening.

    Frances...here here...yes you have fought the fight and are a warrior and know everything to do to keep yourself healthy for a long time to come. I am so impressed by your and everyone's heres strength and  knowledge. We are moving ourselves through this and we are doing a good job andrelying on one another has been great.

     bcisnofun, ANA, Snoopy, Dexxy...glad to be in such good company with allof us finishing chemo....will feel better once the neulasta SE's slow down.

    Cathy C...know you can do it...days go by and you jsut find you do what you need to. When will you be finished? I hope the taxatere SE's won't be too diffiuclt for you.

    ellenquilt....yes, September 11 is so sobering and it sounds as though you had a very traumatic experience while teaching. So sorry you are still flood cleaning but love love love your story about the car and who was going to be in the drivers seat.  When we move we are thinking of getting a prius to save on gas on our 70 mile one way trips up to Boston...sounds nuts but we need to own only one house and need to do that soon.

    Hoping everyone has wonderful weather today.

  • Izzy325
    Izzy325 Member Posts: 59
    edited September 2011

    Painting- I have ITP (idiopathic thrombocytpenic purpura). Just means my immune system destroys my platelets. Seems to kill it in the spleen so I had that removed. It put me in remission for now but that usually only works for a few years. But the chemo plays a dance with my blood counts. Just happy it hasnt been more problematic that it has. Often rheumatoid drugs are used for tx, too. Usually steroids or retuximab. Good luck with everything... Change is tough even though sometimes necessary.

  • yooper
    yooper Member Posts: 47
    edited September 2011

    Thank you for the welcome.

    khs--Yes, I am from the great U.P. of Michigan and am in the Triple Negative ranks.  So excited for you having your last tx this week!  I have 3 more to go.

    Had chemo last Weds. and still in the throes of the Taxol pain--mostly in the legs and today more in the feet.  Neulasta had previously given me mild muscle aches for a couple days but this is much worse so I'm assuming it's the Taxol.  Plus this time I had only half my usual dose of Neulasta.  If my blood counts stay good we may do half dose again next time and nix it altogether for the last two.

    Made my appt. today to meet with the genetic counselor to discuss testing.  Not sure I'm looking forward to that but my onc recommended it.

    A/C vs. Taxol (so far): traded the nausea for the pain.  Would rather have the pain so I guess that's a good trade.  Worst treatment day experience with the A/C was pain in my arm during premeds (had vein issues...eventually got a port), but the Taxol day was absolutely horrid.  On a lighter note...the nurses were absolutely hopping this last time as infusion room was packed.  At one point though during one of my "episodes" I had all four in front of me.  I told them I just wanted some attention. ;)

  • misswim
    misswim Member Posts: 931
    edited September 2011

    Ladies- I am not certain how many of you are in the Boston area and know of this woman but I was introduced to her by a mutual friend- she was stage IIIA , her-2 pos and diagnosed 5 years ago. She is doing great! She has been a wealth of info and she shared her story with her viewers as she went through it- if you have the time, please watch, she's awesome.

    Very inspiring, and she is thriving.

    http://www.thebostonchannel.com/health/10723820/detail.html

  • yooper
    yooper Member Posts: 47
    edited September 2011

    Hives.  Yes, that's the newest thing to add to my list.  Called the onc on call...of course I have not once gotten my regular doc...she thought it was odd to have an allergic reaction to the Taxol now since it's been 5 days since tx, but I can't imagine what else it could be.  So now I take some Benadryl and see what happens.

  • shinypop
    shinypop Member Posts: 107
    edited September 2011

    Hey all, how's everyone? I'm in the chair for my 3rd of 12 Taxol/Herceptin tomorrow. So far I've just had fatigue. I have a cough that is due to post nasal drip that will be the death of me. I can't lay down most of the time. I blame quitting smoking. I tried to call my Primary care physician and his phone lines were down. So yet another night of little sleep. Hopefully I can sleep in the chair tomorrow. Mostly I feel good, just frustrated with the cough. I do hope we can keep this thread going. I have so much ahead. After the 12 Taxol I have 6 weeks of radiation. Quite a long journey. After all of that I will get my new bewbs.  

  • J-Bug
    J-Bug Member Posts: 626
    edited September 2011

    ellenquilt: I just added a post that you especially will appreciate!

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/67/topic/755825?page=97#idx_2900

    FrancesC: I am sorry to hear that the cold caps did not work out as planned.

    That is very interesting to hear how the education works in Singapore. I tried to start my children out learning two languages in an immersion program of English and Spanish, but it just turned out that they had too many other learning difficulties going on that we had to get them into a different school. I just think it is so important that we learn more about other cultures and languages. It opens our minds so much more. 

    Allright, I have been at work all afternoon, and brought a lot home with me. I have to go through the details and make sure I have everything I need, then I can get back to some pain pills for this wonderful Taxol pain! Good night all! 

  • khs113
    khs113 Member Posts: 105
    edited September 2011

    Hi Paintingmywaythru---Had a response from the Triple Negative web site today. They said that because all the scans are so sensitive that unless a patient exhibits some kind of symptom,even for TNC, they don't recommend the scans. My onc sympathized that cancer patients feel anxious about the fact that no tests are being given for a period of time but that between surgeons, radiologists, and oncos visits, and if the patient is sensitive to any symptoms, anything unusual is spotted. Now that I'm about to finish chemo it does feel like I'm being let go,pushed out of the nest so to speak. I still have radiation and will have a mammo in December, but after that basically no tests for awhile. How are you coming in your search and answers?

  • Snoopy73
    Snoopy73 Member Posts: 287
    edited September 2011

    Hi ladies, just stopped to say hello and send in some positive vibes to all that are getting chemo this week. I am 7 days post my last chemo, mouth still feels sour and funky and tasteless uuurrgghhh energy is so so, worked full day yday and am at work today. Actually, by the end of the day my energy decreases dramatically and i get soo agitated and anxious:-( i just want to be left alone!!

    Paulamati - I'm sorry about your friend, i can imagine how difficult it is for you. May God rest her soul in peace!

    I did not sleep well at all last nite, i kept getting scary dreams and thoughts etc... i have a friend who is very sick in MD she's young and was diagnosed abt 8yrs ago, she's basically dying now and has 2 small kids, her story really bothers me more than i thought, coz last nite i kept seeing her face and her kids face and i started imagining myself sick, etc...God help us to fight and get rid if this disease!!

    Other than that, i have an appt with my RO next week for planning etc.. any of you ladies that completed chemo doing RADS? 

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2011

    Snoopy so sorry to hear about your friend. We are all fighting to get rid of this beast in us and I have faith that we will win this fight. Push on all brave warriors! I wil be doing rads too after chemo is done.

  • ellenquilt
    ellenquilt Member Posts: 172
    edited September 2011

    Shinypop, I'm in for the long haul as well.  Another 4 sessions with Abraxane and Herceptin, then radiation then continued Herceptin for the rest of the year every three weeks.  I'll be done next July some time. 

    JBug -- the link didn't work, Can you repost now that you've got me curious?

    Snoopy, so sorry to hear about your friend.  It's never easy when someone loses the battle, but we do have to forge on ahead and focus on getting rid of this awful BC for good.  And I will be doing RADS probably starting sometime in November (tricky because I have to go out of town to present at a conference right before Thanksgiving.  I'll have to see how that works out. I'll miss three days.)

    At work today. The SE of the week is achy joints and fatigue.  I am dragging my ass around (not an easy task if you've seen my ass, LOL) and really begin to fade around 2 (now).  Better today, but still not able to be overly focused.  I'm at my best early in the morning and it's all downhill from there. What makes it worse is my grant partner has been suffering from terrible insomnia and he's not able to focus either.  So we're writing the program and curriculum for the year by basically pulling it out of our, you guessed it....asses.  And hoping it will all fall into place.  LOL  I'm looking forward to Spa Day on Friday just so I don't have to work and get up so damned early in the morning for a few days.

    On the other hand, we just got new iPad 2's at work to play with, so I have a new toy to occupy me. That might keep my eyes open for the rest of this afternoon. :D

  • Snoopy73
    Snoopy73 Member Posts: 287
    edited September 2011

    Ellenquilt - You crack me up LOL... Thanks & Love you haahahaa

  • J-Bug
    J-Bug Member Posts: 626
    edited September 2011

    Sorry ellenquilt! You've been there before. Try this:

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/67/topic/755825?page=97#idx_2910

    Look for my posting yesterday, 9-13-11. 

  • misswim
    misswim Member Posts: 931
    edited September 2011

    Ladies, I don't know if it is me but I am having a hard time with this last leg of chemo. Taxol is overall easier than a/c but the muscle/joint pain is awful. My rbc's are low again, no transfusion but I am EXHAUSTED. I look forward to taxol #2 of 4 next week, but I get so nervous as the end of chemo comes closer. I feel protected even if the treatment sucks. I will have tamox to move on to, and more surgery, but my head gets caught up in .....what if it is all for not and this gets me in the end. My positive attitude has taken a major nosedive.

    Snoopy, I am so sorry to hear about your friend. Sending you hugs and so many kind thoughts. And I get the cancer dreams...... last night was full of them. You can't sleep, you picture what ifs, and it is terrifying.

    But, we wake up every day, know we are doing our best to treat this, and move forward. All we can do. Thanks for being supposrtive, even when I can't get the peppy attitude back.

    I'm tired. Tired of cancer, tired of chemo, tired of feeling that I will not have my life back EVER again as it once was. I am just TIRED. Thanks for listening.

  • misswim
    misswim Member Posts: 931
    edited September 2011

    J-Bug- That is just absolutley great. I laughed right out loud. Good for you for showing those punk kids. Great posting.

  • dexxy
    dexxy Member Posts: 229
    edited September 2011

    Jbug-you just made me laugh and cry at the same time!

    ok wishing everone good luck this week and next.  I'm off on a trip on Saturday with my Mom and BFF.  Driving across america looking for cool stuff for my shop, cant wait to be where I'm not just "cancer". start rads on Oct 3rd

    hus to all

  • J-Bug
    J-Bug Member Posts: 626
    edited September 2011

    I felt bad for the kids after I did it. They just looked so shocked! The drive thru girl looked like she was going to drop her change and her jaw.

    misswim: I am right with you on this Taxol stuff. It's terrible. I shopped online for a walking cane today because I have such a hard time walking for several days each time, but I feel so silly actually getting one. I just really felt like I needed it walking around work on Tuesday with my knees buckling from the pain. On days like the one you are describing, I have to search my mind for things that bring me joy and see if I can incorporate some of that into my day. It doesn't just happen - it is a regular practice. I wish you the best with it! 

  • bcisnofun
    bcisnofun Member Posts: 488
    edited September 2011

    jbug - too funny

    dexxy - have a safe trip and enjoy!

    misswim - feeling terrible from chemo has a way of making our minds feel terrible too.  I'm 3 weeks out PFC and am feeling much better both physically and mentally.  You will too.  My NP said that week 3 and 4 weeks PFC I'll realize I had forgotten what it feels like to feel good.  She was absolutely right.  I have energy.  I don't look at the clock at work to see how soon until I can go home and lay down, I laugh more, etc.  You'll be there soon!

    Snoopy and paulamati - I'm very sorry about your friends.  I know your pain.  I really want to believe we will find a cure for metastatic disease very soon and we can all live without the fear. 

    Ellenquilt - as always you make me laugh!

    Shiny - hope the cough goes away soon.

    Where is everyone's port?  I read a string about people with it in their arm and can't imagine where it would go in the arm.  Any ideas?

    have a good night

  • rossileo18
    rossileo18 Member Posts: 245
    edited September 2011

    Met my radiologist today and was offered a chance to participate in a clinical trial for accelerated radiation with an extra boost. This is three weeks instead of the usual six. And i would be randomly assigned to one of the groups. Anybody else being given this option? Guess I probably should post in the radiation topic but I figure many of us will be moving on to this in the next weeks.

  • shinypop
    shinypop Member Posts: 107
    edited September 2011

    My port is about two to three inches below my right collar bone. I love my port. I have invisible veins. I'm convinced they hide cuz they think it's funny. I used to give blood and since I'm O neg it means I'm the universal donor and it was always sent to a Children's Hospital. Guess they don't want my icky chemicals now. bwahahah.

    So the cough is getting pawned. I got really lucky in being able to see my primary care phys at the very last minute this evening. He gave me lots of samples. I just wish I was sleepy enough to go to sleep. Today was a spa day. Lots of decadron. Yum. 

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2011

    Have lots of fun Dexxy. Can pack me along? LOL!

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2011

    Jbug - u go gal, show them what we are made of! So funny! I am sure they felt horrible after what they have done

  • mavinbook
    mavinbook Member Posts: 31
    edited September 2011

    Good Morning Ladies,

    Good thoughts and best wishes to all for a pleasant day. I don't say much, but I treasure this group.  Thanks for being there with me (although it stinks that we have to do this!)

  • khs113
    khs113 Member Posts: 105
    edited September 2011

    Rossileo18--I haven't heard about the radiation boost but I see my radiologist in a couple of weeks and will ask. Three weeks sure sounds better than six but I wonder about how many more rads they throw and you and what it does to the surrounding tissue. Had my last chemo yesterday and after what I know will be a bad weekend and not so fun week am looking forward to starting back to feeling a bit more normal. They say radiation is much better but you're still a little tired. I wonder it it's the same tired as chemo or less.

    Thinking about the rest of our group as we gather strength to get through the next phases of our treatments. Wishing you all minimal SEs and improving health.

    Krista

  • rabbit
    rabbit Member Posts: 613
    edited September 2011

    Paulamati, I am sorry for the loss of your friend. I will keep her family and friends in my prayers to be strong. xoxo

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