No reconstruction- Happy w/your decision?
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kmpod!! You are through the worst of it!!! I used a glass measuring cup at the beginning to measure. I had a small (medicine bottle??) that had mls on it so I'd just keep pouring, dumping out and pouring more until I'd measured the full load that came out. As the days go by it gets so much less it won't be as big of a hassle.
Remember, when you start to get zings that means the nerves are regenerating and it's a GOOD thing!!!!
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Hi kmpod,
Glad to hear you're on the other side of surgery and doing well. The drains I had post-mastectomy were Jackson-Pratt drains, also known as bulb drains -- I think that's typically what's used. They had little measuring lines right on each bulb and were easy to deal with myself, once someone showed me how. Hopefully, a visiting nurse will show up and show you what you need to know. You shouldn't have to be worrying about this right now!
I agree with Barbe. Don't be alarmed if your skin becomes very sensitive. That happens to many (if not most) of us and usually means that nerves are regenerating. In my case, it lasted about three weeks and then I felt fine. If that does happen, silk or satin against your skin (it glides rather than clings) might be most comfortable.
Barbara
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Just in case you get the other kind of drain, mine were like round accordians. I squeezed them shut then attached the drain and that caused suction. There was no way to measure on them. Make sure you have something comfortable on your skin as you heal. You don't need an irritant at this point!
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I have the round accordian too. I found a small fanny pack that holds it and the coiled up tubing just perfectly. I'll just have find some cover for it when I leave the house.
Ah, the nurse just came and went (125ml drainage). She was impressed by the surgeon's handiwork - and veteran nurses are hard to impress.
It does seem odd to look down and see my belly. I guess I should do something about reducing that.
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Shippy
Landsend is having a great sale on swimsuits. I just purchased a mastectomy suit for 23.00 down from 89.00. Check them out -
AHA!!! The toddler belly. I forgot about that one...sigh. You seem to have the belly first posture of a toddler. Don't worry, without the weight of your breasts on your chest, you'll start to stand differently and posture will take care of some of that load.
I just use a regular bathing suit with the foam lining/cups cuts out. A tankini lies nice and flat against my chest.
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kmpod,
So glad everything went well. Are you sleeping OK? I have been told they will instruct me in how to empty and clean the drains before I leave the hospital. It's nice you had a visiting nurse to take you thru it. Have you started any range of movement or exercise things yet? Hate to be so nosy..
I am on the July mx thread also but this thread seems more useful. A lot of what they talk about on there has to do with the expanders and all of that stuff. The descriptions of what I will feel like from you guys is a way better reflection=I don;t have to sort out the surgery stuff vs the recon stuff.. Still seems hard to believe it doesn;t hurt more than what is said. I will have a pain ball that will last for 100hrs after surgery. It is more of a local anesthetic-or that's what I have been told.
My surg is still 2 weeks away but I have 7 appts over that time period. I finally feel like the last chemo is releasing itshold on my stomach. Actually ate toast-and kept it down this morning
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Lilylady, I have a very low tolerance for pain because I have Fibromyalgia which actually DOUBLES and TRIPLES the pain I do feel. So I was expecting to be in AGONY!!!!! I even asked if I would have a morphine pump. They thought I was nuts! What normally hurts in surgery is organ removel (none here), muscle cuts (non here - no recon), bone setting (none here!). So it truly is just a deep tissue wound!! I was stunned and so proud of myself!!! You, too will be amazed!
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I'm glad you're finding this useful, Lilylady.
I felt this thread was more pertinent to my experience too. Everyone here has been so helpful and reassuring.
I'm astonished at how little pain I'm experiencing. I'm down to one Tylenol 3 every 6-8 hours and I'll likely be able to discontinue that today. The main discomfort, as everyone predicted is the drain - but even that is better now that the VON changed the position of the tape that was tugging under my axilla. The nurse told me that I'll be experiencing less discomfort than usual because the surgeon didn't make a separate incision to take the sentinel nodes, she just extended the breast incision, so it's a very tidy job.
I've started doing a few of the suggested exercises and I had a short walk last night with DH. He's somewhat disconcerted that I'm as well as I am - he's two naps ahead of me!
My sleeping isn't too bad, considering. It's just that I usually sleep on my right side or my belly, so sleeping on my back doesn't feel natural. I ended up moving to the sofa last night because of better back support and also, because the sofa back held my "arm" pillows more securely in position.
Very important - don't forget your Senokot-S. I started a couple of days prior to the surgery and It's worked like a charm.
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kmpod-- I use the Senekot-S faithfully and I agree--it really helps! I know what you mean about the reconstruction talk on other threads. It's hard to identify with the stress of that process when I don't have to face it myself. (It makes me glad I don't have the extra stress of recon!)
I have my new Land's End tankini top. I've tried it on and it seems like it should work out nicely!!
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Hi I got the green light to swim yay its been 5 weeks without and I couldn't be happier the weird thing is my arms and chest are tight I was told only swim 1/4 of my usual 2 miles but it took much effort and time it is a bit discouraging but I know to be patient the swimming seems to be helping the swelling too!! I am Also loving being flat and forget it much of the day I am soooooi glad I did this thanks again to so many kind and caring ladies who helped me more than I can say
I was once asked how many birthdays have I had since bc and since today is my 53 bday I can say I am really only 7 -
HAPPY BIRTHDAY sweetie!!! What a great day for you!!! Celebrate the strength you are building and glorify in the agility you are working on. It will be like you are a new swimmer all over again. Don't over work the swimming or you could hurt the healing process. Listen to your body.
Maybe today should just be a lazy, hazy crazy day of summer! Much love,
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Shippy, Happy Birthday! I'm glad you're back to swimming, but agree that you need to be careful to not overdo. It's normal for your arms and chest to be a bit tight. It takes time to heal.
I'm five years out and I still have days where my chest feels tight, it's not a big deal I just do some stretches and it goes away, just seems weird that it's gone on this long but I've seen others mention this too.
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I'm very happy without those extra pieces of equipment ............no reconstruction for me!!. Just bought all kinds of colored,floral padded bras until I am properfly fitted with my prosthesis (plural)!!!!! I kind of like this clean, flat look.......................when I hug my hubby, he has more tissue than I do. He is wonderful about my decision! I hope anyone who is sharing this experience, finds it as easy to adapt to!
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Finally, got my Oncotype score and it's a low 17--no chemo needed--I am so happy and relieved!
I had the great pleasure of swimming over the past two days and it's felt like Heaven to be in the cool water when it's 100 degrees (F) around my Ohio hometown. Of course, I mostly floated around and did easy slow strokes for a short while.
Because I still have my left breast, I wore a tankini with pockets and a prosthesis in the right side. I was perfectly comfortable in it but the silicone one kept floating up a tiny bit and poked from under the edge of the suit. Does anyone have a swimsuit solution? Thanks!
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Hi i was wondering if this has happened to any of you. I went to the grocery store today (6 weeks since deconstruction btw) and the clerk called me sir. Admittedly i was wearing a blue t shirt but it shocked me. I guess i need to be more careful about how i dress and put on earrings etc. I was feeling great about being flat until today.
Then i came home and cried.
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I haven't gotten my BMX yet but have just finished chemo so I am bald. I don;t have very large breasts anyway but I have been called sir more times than I care to think over the last 3 months. It is way too hot to waer a wig and I haven't even been wearing a hat but I think I have a feminine face. The no hair and flat chested thing isn;t exactly flattering/
At first I would say "excuse me, I am not a man" just to make them feel bad but i got over that pretty quick. I always felt horrible after I said it!!
I'm sorry you cried Shippy I certainly know how you feel. I am just too lazy to dress up just to go to Lowes or the grocery so I guess I bear some fault in somebody thinking i look mannish.
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Aw, Shippy, here's a big hug for you. I don't think I'd like hearing that either. People are half paying attention any more. I'm sure you don't look like a man. I have had guys look at my flat chest if I'm wearing a tee to a baseball game or other times when I'm dressed down. It's not the same as being called sir, but I know they know I don't have any breasts and it sometimes makes me feel uncomfortable. I remind myself that people generally don't mean to be rude and stare. However, I think it's the same thing that you and Lilylady have pointed out about how much effort you want to put into how you look at times. When I wear more feminine tops that distract from my flatness, I rarely get the stare. I just know that when I wear certain tops, I have to be prepared for some extended looks. I really am okay with my flat chest, especially since it was such a hard road to get here. I think it's when something like that catches me off guard, it can cause a mix of emotions. It's been easier as time passes though. When I head out into the world with my flat chest shirt, I often give myself a little "I am woman, hear me roar" pep talk. Here's something kind of funny. I have a man's tee I bought for myself right before my deconstruction surgery to help me feel positive. The design on the front of it: a large Superman emblem. :-)
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Shippy, hugs. I bet that worker just wasn't paying attention. But no recon certainly brings up a lot of gender issues for me at times too. The funny thing is that since my bmx I don't really like to dress "girly" anymore, I feel more like myself in jeans and a tee and a flannel shirt. One thing I DO like is heels, not so much fancy stillettos, but high heeled boots or booties, with my jeans and tees. Everything boyish except for the shoes.
Tina, I get that chest stare sometimes too, and it does make me uncomfortable, I don't like it, but what can you do? When I had boobs there were guys who would stare too, didn't like that either I have to say. Breasts! So complicated, always too much or not enough, it seems
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About 3 months after my bilat a little 3 year old relative of a relative was on her grandmother's shoulder looking back toward where I was sitting and my grandson's girlfriend. She said, "I think that's a boy." I thought she meant the girlfriend, so I said, "No, she's a girl!" And she said, "No, I mean you!" I was struck. I tried to assure her I was a "girl", but she didn't believe me. It was the first time I thought seriously about wearing foobs, but instead I quit wearing that top, and tried to dress more "femininely". Since I still remember it 5 years later, I guess I'm still a little sensitive. I always wondered if anyone else was thinking that! But foobs or not, I try to stand up straight and look happy to be me. A big smile takes the attention off the chest! I hope this won't be a lasting problem for you. Most people really aren't paying attention.
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I usually forget that I'm flat until I catch someone looking. But I can do a whole grocery shopping errand and get back home and forget I'm flat. That's a good day. I do make sure some part of me is girlie. I put jiblets in my Croc shoes for instance. My DH won't!!! (they are the little 'things' that go in the holes of Crocs')
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I think I've said this in another thread, but after about a year of going flat, I finally went to be fitted for the prosthesis. We tried all sizes, but they all felt too big, so they finally special ordered the smallest size. Before, my breasts were small/medium with the exeption of when I was nursing (huge).
But when the foobs arrived and I went to try them, even they looked wrong, too large, after a year of being flat. I have some "cutlets" but I don't think they look right either and I never wear them.
I can't say that I like being flat. But, and I think Barb from breastfree has said the same, I also don't trust any PS to give me breasts, either implants, flaps, or fat grafting (which I have recently been researching) I'd rather have what I have now than risk something I might like even less.
What I might try someday is Macrolane (legal in Europe, but not here yet). I like that it is not permanent (lasts a year or so). I think it can only increase the size about a cup size, which sounds perfect to me. I would like just enough to pass as just being naturally small breasted.
I saw numerous PS back in my decision making days and it was almost impossible to make any of them understand this.
So am I happy with my decision? It's complicated. I wish there were more and better options. I think it is particularly hard for women who prefer to be small, because I have seen some pretty amazing implants, but they seem to work best in larger sizes.
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Hey, I can relate to being mistaken for a guy, and that was BEFORE my surgery (BMX)! I have broad shoulders, small hips, and a larger waist "than I'm supposed to". So every so often, when going to a public restroom I'd get yelled at by some woman upset by the "male" entering the women's bathroom - one even threatened to call the cops on me!
So here's a funny solution. Hubby and I were at Kroger's the other day and of course I had to go to the bathroom. So we go towards the restrooms and there is "Men's" on the left, "Women's" on the right, and in the middle, "UNISEX"! "They built a bathroom just for you," says hubby! I'm so glad he's taking my BMX so well.
BTW, thanks Barbe1958 and Firebird. Your previous postings here have helped me a lot. The hypersensitivity of my chest skin is betting a bit better each day... At this rate, I'll be able to wear standard button-down-the-front shirts by Christmas!
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I too had bilateral mastectomies (one prophylactic) six years ago and did not do reconstruction until last week. If you aren't sure you want to do it, then don't. You can always change your mind, like I did. I had no problem with having no breasts--it wasn't a body image thing with me. And my husband was fine with it, too. I just got to the point where I got so tired of trying to find clothes that I could wear without people being able to see all the way to my waist when I bent over. I have to say that the surgery (TE both sides, plus lat flap on radiated side) was not fun but was not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. And I really never thought I would actually do it. But I am glad I did. You just have to do what is best for you.
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jing, if you wear a soft cami now, you can wear a button down shirt!!!
That Macrolane made a faxcinating read!!! That is possibly something I might consider!! Maybe augmented with fat??
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Aerial - re a swimming prosthesis. There's a prosthesis called Sea Shore that is a slightly weighted foam one made for swimming. It costs about $40-$45. OR you can take the really cheap way out and use a net bath scrubby. I found this idea on a site a few years ago. It works remarkably well. You just have to find the right size, but at $1 a piece at the $ store, you can afford to experiment. I've had real success with either.
Re dog ears - Just saw my BS and she said the solution is lyposuction.
I had MX 17+ years ago. IImmediate recon with TE, then saline implant that didn't work out. I'm getting ready to have a PMX on the other breast. I'm tired of being lopsided. My BS wanted me to see a PS before my surgery. Recon has improved a lot since my MX. I was pleasantly surprised. Not sure it's in my future. I'll have to see what being flat chested is like first. But, I'm not saying never.
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Good Moring,
I was goin to go natural, but my brother talked me into reconstructive surger. Don't get me wrong, the dr. did a Fantastic job at mayking my foobs look normal. Its just that I am not comfortable with the way I look anymore. I feel like a teenager again :-). wish I had stuck to my original plan. But there is no turning back now. Anone else feel this way?
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Hey everyone...I've not been around for a wee bit, but wanted to keep everyone encouraged - just as you are - with our choice to not reconstruct. I'm almost19 months out now from my BMX, and have only worn my forms one time since November. I look continually for cute "flat" tops....inexpensive ones
....things with ruffles, or something to draw the eye away. For swimming, I haven't bought a MX suit, but have been able to wear tankini bottoms from my regular suits and have gotten exercise/yoga tops made from swimsuit fabric to coordinate. I'll get them in horizontal stripes or patterns to distract the eye. So far, no one has noticed, or at least I've never caught anyone staring. I totally dislike wearing normal, regular t-shirts because they accentuate my flatness. High necks are bad for that, too - for me, anyway.
I'm like some of the rest of you. I just couldn't justify all the extra surgeries, the additional risks, etc just to get bumps to make other people feel more comfortable or to fill out my clothes. My husband is totally fine with me the way I am, and most of the time I actually forget about it (unless I'm feeling tight).
Like Barbe, I walk tall and proud....
and so should all of you!!!
blessings...robin
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Hello all, I opted for reconstruction after Lmast,while still on the table, I was in the process of making wedding plans when I was diagnosed, but shortly after the doc started to fill the expander,my body rejected it and I was taken to the ER with a very high fever, so it was taken out,I use a prothesis and wish I had just went with that. God Bless. msphil (idc, stage 2, L mast, 0/3 nodes, chemo ,rads) and now 17 yrs cancer free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(Praise God)
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agada, many, many women have 'de-constructed' due to pain issues. It can be done.
msphil, congrats on 17 years!!! I do think that if I had only one breast removed I'd have tried for recon of some sort. You tried, it wasn't to be. Congrats on your timeline!!!
I LOVE the new 'lingerie' sexy look that some of the tops are coming out in this year!! I can feel sexy without cleavage! Strangely enough though, I do have a kind of cleavage because he didn't cut right through, but stopped just short of centre on each side so I have little beginnings of bumps that could be construed as cleavage...ehhehehe
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