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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    Ravdeb.......it's the decadron, it's a steroid. I just posted on that other thread. I finally realized why I was soooo irritated at my mom when she was here for a month. I had 2 A/C treatments while she was here (the pre-meds are steroids) and the for 3 days after each one I took steroids (compazine,???? was that the one I took) ...

    Now, Taxol, Herceptin and the pre-med is decadron. Duh. Think about what steroids do to the athletes who take it.
    • Aggression
    • Easily annoyed.
    • restlessness
    • depression
    • anxiety
    • acne
    • increased hair growth
    • easy bruising
    • irregular or absent menstrual periods
  • Graycie
    Graycie Member Posts: 839
    edited February 2006

    I wouldn't mind the increased hair growth....HAAAAAA

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006

    I really seem to have a lot of peach fuzz up there!! My eyelsshes are about 1/4" now, eyebrows are still sparse. But I definitely have some hair growing in. I hope it doesn't fall out after the Taxol is over...I heard it might from the nurses. Oh well.

  • ake
    ake Member Posts: 684
    edited February 2006
    my hair didn't fall out after the taxol at all...i'm almost 3 weeks out. so cross your fingers...that might a rumor or something
  • ravdeb
    ravdeb Member Posts: 3,116
    edited February 2006
    I took Decadron with AC and didn't have this jittery, irritable stuff. I took pills for 2 days following the treatment. But, now I get it in the IV. Whatever...either way, after I finish the Taxol, I'll be off the dang pre-meds, too!!!! :-)

    I understood that this steroid is not like the ones that athletes take but I suppose that some of the side effects could be the same. It seems to last and this jittery stuff does not go away. My hands are not very steady which really bugs me since I draw and can't steady my hand for the kind of drawing that I do. Whatever..

    I hope that was just a rumor, Amy, and my hair and your hair and everybody else's hair will continue to grow and grow and grow!!! I check it every day. It's still in there tight and I can actually grab onto it a bit so it IS growing. YES!!!! Interesting that we start out with the worry about when our hair will fall out, and then we make the full circle and wonder when it will grow back in!!!!! I like this part of the circle better :-)
    ravdeb
  • ravdeb
    ravdeb Member Posts: 3,116
    edited February 2006
    thanks for the link. I read it. My hair is growing in :-)
    I'm annoyed easily and I'm extremely restless... guess that is it.
    6 more of these decadron IVs and I'm done.
    HATE this stuff!!!!
    ravdeb
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    Hang in there Ravdeb!
    Laura
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    HAPPY
    BIRTHDAY
    DEBBIE!

    Hope you're having a great one!
    Cheers!

    Laura
  • debbie444
    debbie444 Member Posts: 847
    edited February 2006
    Thanks Laura - did have a lovely birthday, now feel a bit of an anticlimax!! Made it to 34 (also 13th wedding anniversary so unlucky 13th year over - now into 14th which will be better!) so bring on 84!
    Hubby got me lots of lovely things - one of which was a hot air balloon ride so have that to look forward to.
    Have had to go out and buy new clothes to go back to work with because of extra weight which was really not good for the self esteem!
    I am due to start on my tamoxifen next week - anyone know what to expect???
    Debbie
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    Happy birthday, Debbie!

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    Ravdeb, glad the link was helpful.
    I, too, am at the halfway point! Only 6 more to go and then on to Herceptin only!

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    Everyone, I talked to the nurse about possibly losing my hair on Taxol. She said that at this point, 5 Taxols under my belt and taking the 6th one yesterday, that it's a good indicator that my hair will not fall out again.

    So, stop pulling, tugging and tweezing those hairs! They're back!
  • ake
    ake Member Posts: 684
    edited February 2006
    happy birthday debbie!

    terynsmom...congrats on being halfway done!!!!!!!!! it only gets better now
  • maryannecb
    maryannecb Member Posts: 1,453
    edited February 2006
    Happy Birthday Debbie!

    All this talk of hair is making me hopeful. Ok I won't shave my head for another week. My eyebrows are much thinner though. Maybe everyone is different here. Wouldn't it be nice to have hair for summer?

    Have had three bad days in a row from Taxotere 1 week ago. Body is very tired with muscle aches all over. Very restless at night and not sleeping more than 1 hour at a time. I am exhausted and not much use during the day except to lay on couch. I hope tomorrow is better.

    Ravdeb I am cranky too, my poor Mother! First month I have had no period. Also think I am having hotflashes now. Hope I resume periods after chemo. Sad to say but I feel too young to be menopausal.

    Watched too many decorating shows this week . I am starting to dream about paint and house renovations.

    Fists up!
  • maryannecb
    maryannecb Member Posts: 1,453
    edited February 2006
    Terynsmom I finish up March28 then also continue on with Herceptin until next Jan. I am finding the Taxotere much much harder. I am so tired now I can hardly get my groceries. How are the rest of you feeling? I plan to go back to work April 1 but it is hard to imagine I will have the energy...

    Fists up!
  • ravdeb
    ravdeb Member Posts: 3,116
    edited February 2006
    I have hot flashes, too. I think I've got menopause now for good. Seems like no periods for a while..When on AC I had periods heavy every 2 weeks. They stopped in January I think... lost track. Mind is foggy. I had terrible night sweats in December. Haven't had too many of them since.
    Taxol is the pits. My arms can't lift a thing. I will carry a full laundry basket up the stairs and almost collape before reaching the top. Arms then get sore. Legs feel the same as arms. Toes are numb a bit as are finger tips.
    I have my last Taxol March 16th if all goes well. But I'm getting more and more tired on this weekly thing. Wednesdays were my good day. I'm zonked today. Tomorrow is my 7th Taxol.
    I am supposed to be starting a new business with a friend and we stopped working on it. Gotta do that but my mind is a fog. She wants to start working on it again so we can open next year. hmmmmmmmmm.....
    ravdeb
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    I am thinking the Taxol effects are cumulative because I was so tired on Monday after treatment that my legs wouldn't lift off the ground!!!

    If anyone was watching "Dancing With The Stars" here in USA, I told my dad, "If you want to know how I feel, watch Master P do his dancing." I feel as bad as he looks dancing. For you ladies who don't know what the heck I am talking about, it's like watching Frankenstein dancing ... with lead feet.

    I took yesterday off work but going in today. Tired.
  • ravdeb
    ravdeb Member Posts: 3,116
    edited February 2006
    I agree...it is accumulative and that lead feeling in legs...I can relate. I feel like I could use somebody to lift my legs sometimes...also my arms...
    This will pass!!!! Right???? :-)
    Hope you had a good day back at work...
    chemo tomorrow for me....
    ravdeb
  • TracySeattle
    TracySeattle Member Posts: 690
    edited February 2006
    Is there anyone else just starting back to work after being off for their Chemo treatments? This week is my fist week back, working 6 1/2 hour days and I have to tell you--it is kind of hard! I am tired and I can really feel the "Chemo Brain" when I try to concentrate.

    How are the rest of you doing with getting back to work and your what used to be normal routine?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    Tracy, I have been working full time the whole time. It's very hard. When I did the A/C, I worked a 4 day those weeks (I had 4 treatments). With the Taxol, which is weekly, I try to work the 5 days, but this week I could not. I have 6 more to go.

    Hang in there!
  • ake
    ake Member Posts: 684
    edited February 2006
    tracy...i've been working through chemo, but only part time and this week was my first week being full time...i definitely am more tired (plus i'm in radiation, which makes it harder) and i have ZERO memory from my chemo brain...i can't remember diddly squat! i hate it.

    how's everyone doing in rads? i find it boring.
  • Chiahead
    Chiahead Member Posts: 16
    edited February 2006

    I just started back after being off for 7 months. I took a part time job for now so I do have time to rest and recoperate. It felt great to be back. I never thought I would say that. It was like I left the life of cancer and returned to to the world of normal.

  • ravdeb
    ravdeb Member Posts: 3,116
    edited February 2006
    It is great that you ladies are working, no matter how many hours. I stopped working and I think it was actually very timely as I plan to move in a different direction. I'm taking this year off but admire those who could do both. very inspiring.
    ravdeb
  • TracySeattle
    TracySeattle Member Posts: 690
    edited February 2006
    I totally admire those who where able to work through chemo. There is no way that I could have done that. It is good to know that the rest of you are struggling a bit too. I have been wondering if it is just the normal fatigue caused by chemo or if there is something up with my blood counts. I go to the Onc tomorrow, so will find out for sure, but I think it is just the regular fatigue thing.

    It is certainly good to be back to work. I was getting so tired of being at home with nothing to think about but BC. Now I can feel as if I am back to normal (or my new normal).
  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Member Posts: 109
    edited February 2006
    Quote:

    I totally admire those who where able to work through chemo. There is no way that I could have done that.




    I agree completely--there is no way, but I feel like a baby compared to all the ladies who work thru. I've been off since September 12 (my mastectomy/reconstruction date). I'm scheduled to return on April 10.
    Jane
  • Paula15089
    Paula15089 Member Posts: 373
    edited February 2006
    Hi ladies,
    I have just returned to work full time last week... Boy, its hard. I can't get up in the mornings, I can't concentrate, I can't remember anything. Plus, I can't get my mind off this cancer thing and back to 'normal' mode.
    I am constantly tired. In fact, more so now than during chemo. When will it get better already??

    I am also feeling increasingly depressed... feel like i am never going to get my life and my body back. Between having no hair, extra weight and assymetrical scarred boobs, I hate what i see in the mirror these days.
    Sorry for the whinge... I havent posted much lately because i just havent got anything positive or uplifting to say. I think i need to go and see a therapist, but can hardly afford it. Maybe i should up my Lexapro? I am on 10mg a day, the lowest dosage i believe.

    Rads start 20 feb, and that will surely add to the stress.
    arrgh!! i hate feeling like this.

    take care all...
    Paula
  • RoseMarie
    RoseMarie Member Posts: 502
    edited February 2006
    Well, I haven't posted in a while...been in transition to the cold north! We were actually quite excited to see snow but it only lasted a day or two...Just finished my 5th weekly Taxol. I can't sleep and my knees ache. I also have a constant head ache....whaa, whaa, whaa....I not happy to hear others are irritable and up at night but it sure helps to hear that it's not just me. Rubbing my fuzzy head - hoping this head ache goes away- glad to have fuzz to rub!!! My eyelashes and eyebrows are just about back to normal and I'm having to shave my legs and armpits again. Yay - there is an end in sight.
    My best to all of you -
  • ravdeb
    ravdeb Member Posts: 3,116
    edited February 2006
    I am up every night too with this taxol mixed with the steroids. I get the steroid in the IV before the treatment (am also weekly) and I think the steroids never leave my body. I had them in pills at home after AC dose dense and I got fatigued and then it went away. I do not sleep and rarely sleep during the day, don't drink coffee, etc...and still am up all night and irritable as all *@&*

    Paula... It's very difficult to return to the world of non-breast cancer when you are still inside the world of breast cancer. You need to give yourself some time. You need to find it inside you to be more patient. Maybe more pills would help, but relaxation and talking to friends who understand or to somebody, could also help. Or therapy with a therapist who specializes in cancer or breast cancer.
    I know that you hate this sad feeling and you so want to return to being young and carefree again. Well, you are young but you know what I mean.

    I struggle with this too and I'm still in chemo with 5 more Taxols to go and then rads. I am looking towards the future with plans to be in the States to visit family and attend a family wedding. At first, this seemed impossible to me but I've spoken to my doctor and to good friends and they all support me just going no matter how fatigued. It's a very long trip and hard when one feels good but I'm going to do this. So, I have this big plan ahead of me and have also told my new business partner I'm ready to sit down and plan for the new business we are opening.

    All of this gives me motivation and helps me through the rough days, which I have plenty of.

    I wish you the best and tons and tons of patience. You have the inner strength somewhere in there. Search for it and begin to practice using it. This is what I'm trying to do.
    ravdeb
  • Paula15089
    Paula15089 Member Posts: 373
    edited February 2006
    thanks Ravdeb!
    you ladies are my rock. When i am down, this forum is the first place i go to, even just to read if not post. Hopefully when i am up (whenever that might be), i will be right here sharing wisdom!

    I think planning trips is a good way to lift the spirits. This weekend myself and a few girlfriends are going away to Coffs Harbour (small town in Queensland). I am hoping for a good weather so i can get my last bit of sun before i surrender myself to nuking!!

    And in September (it seems so far away now) i plan to take that trip to Russia that i was supposed to take LAST september. Of course, my dx came a week before the trip.. so it never happened. I am hoping for a decent hair coverage by then, but the hair growth is soooo slooooow...

    take care
  • debbie444
    debbie444 Member Posts: 847
    edited February 2006
    I do declare that i have hair
    Sprouting on my head
    I check in the murror every night
    Before i go to bed.

    Will it be curly?
    Will it be straight?
    Will it come back grey?
    Do you know
    I just dont care
    I just like to look each day.

    It looks just like a crew cut -
    I feel like GI Jane
    But after all ive been through
    I really cant complain.

    So HURRAY for fuzz
    Goodbye to hats
    Put the scarves back in the drawer.
    At night i rub my head,
    Close my eyes
    And hope in the morning there'll be more!

    There's not enough to comb yet
    It doesnt need a brush
    I'll sit and bide my time
    There is no need to rush.

    Woohoo for hair!!
    Its coming back
    I feel the need to shout!
    It seems forever and ages
    Since the blasted stuff fell out!

    Debbie
  • ravdeb
    ravdeb Member Posts: 3,116
    edited February 2006
    You go girl, Debbie!!! I love your poem. That is great. I will print that up and hang it by the mirror. I love the hair that is coming back on my head. It's all white and I can't believe it! Scalp still shows but I really love the white snowy stuff. Feels special to me. Don't know if I'll go back to coloring my hair or not. I was gray at 30 anyway and colored my hair all these years...I'm now 51. What the heck! I'll wait until it really covers my head and then I'll make a decision. I just love my new hair, though!!!
    Paula..it will grow. I promise you. For some reason, my hair is growing while I'm on Taxol. My other chemo buddy who is doing weekly Taxol with me also has hair growing. We aren't yet brave enough to show it off, but that time will come!!!! YES!
    Enjoy your weekend in the sun. That is definitely an energy booster!
    My son is home from the army. Must go make some dinner!
    Everybody have terrific weekends, with or without hair!!!
    Love you all.
    ravdeb

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