I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

Joan, the best of luck to you and your boy.  I'm pretty sure one working one is all it takes.

LOL, what are the odds I can get him to say "nads" instead of "nuts"?

thenewme is back   but probably not for long, the way she's being attacked!

and the pm she got WAS NASTY NASTY NASTY

Joan - one nut would certainly be enough for me.. best of luck to your little son.  you hate to see little guys go in for surgery and stuff.

Joan - hope all goes well with your son.  Please be sure to post an update.

So much for the romantic getaway with my dh.  He is still working and it is after midnight.  He won't be back to the hotel for at least 3 more hours.  I am not sure if we are leaving tomorrow or not at this point so if you don't hear from me, we are traveling back home.

Dinner consisted of honey roasted peanuts, cheetos, and orange juice.  Yep.....a real quality healthy dinner    I don't have a car to drive around when we do these trips so I just walked to the grocery store to find something to nibble on.  The vending machine doesn't have many options.

Joan, hope all goes well with your little man ... You can tell him he has a whole fan club of grown-up women (he would probably call us all old ladies! LOL). He's collecting girlfriends at an early age!



((((Hugs to you, too!)))))



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'Morning all - I had my first decent night's sleep in a long time (around my period I start suffering from insomnia). Holistic Healing thread is locked - just as things were getting amicable. . 

It doesn't serve a useful purpose, IMO, to delete posts so many hours after the fact. Tempers have already flared or people have already been hurt (or whatever was going to happen has happened) OR it's all over anyway. The time to do it would be in real time so as to stop any conversation in its tracks that isn't desired and to keep tempers from flaring. Holistic Healing had actually begun to turn around. It would have been a nice thing to see. Laura's joke (which I didn't get :-) helped, and that's life was talking about her scans. And thenewme was back.... 

Bien, je me tais.  

Well, Optimist that I am - maybe there CAN be a "Holistic" thread that doesn't attack part of the Whole, which, in many cases HAS to be chemotherapy.

Yeah, Holistic.  The Whole Person: body, mind, spirit.  I'm all for it.

Hope the "little fellow" s doing well - so young for surgery - but he'll be proud of his new bellybutton!

There was a change in tone, I agree.  But I think thenewme said it well, when trying to explain that talking about chemotherapy, as a "single" entity, or thing, in absolute terms, was as impossible as talking about bc - it's just too complex an issue, or "complementary" as an absolute.

There is a "postition", a "stand" whatever you want to call it - which condemns ALL chemotherapy, or what is sometimes called "traditional" medicine.  A smile here, because while Herceptin may be catagorized as that, it certainly is also a NEW, thank God, discovery to help those with Her2Nu + bc's that wasn't here a very few years ago.

It's the attempt to use ABOLUTES that I think causes the most trouble. AND, when it comes to the choices women make about their own bc, I am sure there is fear, a great deal of FEAR, about whatever treatments we've chosen, and more than HOPING it will be the right one for us.

I'm going to sound like a one track record, but I'm finding David Servan-Schreiber's AntiCancer a very valuable book.  Sorry too, that the word "holistic" seemed to be taken so out of context in the thread closed.

Otter - sorry you got your paws slammed - and thanks for stainding up for all of us!

Good morning everyone!

My daughter had her wisdom teeth removed yesterday, and the poor thing is in so much pain!  I am making mashed potatoes for her, so maybe she can eat something.

Joan, I hope your son will be ok.  (((HUGS)))) 

Hugs for your daughter, Mary!  I never went through that pain, as I never had wisdom teeth (yep, now you know).  My dentist told me I was just a little farther along on the evolutionary scale LOL!

Joan, hoping your little guy is recovering well (and you too!). 

Mary .. I am so sorry about your daughter.  Having your wisdom teeth out hurts.  I would check to make sure she doesn't have any dry sockets, which can make the pain worse.

hugs,

Bren

Thanks again everyone.

Bren, do you mean her eyes?  She usually has dry eyes, and I had no idea that this could make the pain worse.

Apple, LOLing at the "Maryette!"  I agree that the awful taste in the mouth is awful!

(((HUGS)))) everyone

covertanjou  sorry about your daughter.  Do they still do an incision down the side of the gums to remove the wisdom teeth?  I remember getting something stuck between my teeth and having the gum pull away and thinking OMG my teeth are all going to fall out!!!!  And I'm only 16!!!  Anyrate, they did not fall out and I did survive.  Don't remember too much pain but I do remember having a heck of a time coming out from the anesthetic.....

JoanDavies  Hope your boy is okay.  Two of my three have had surgery and they all came out fine.  My youngest monster had to have surgery for a ruptured eardrum.  I was amazed at how kind the hospital and staff were---it was children's hospital.  They let us all be in the room with him when they first gave him the drugs and then let me go to the surgery so he saw me last before they put him under.  Oh and they let his stuffed dog come with him (all the way!!).